Stolen Pixels #231: The History of Civilization, Part 2

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illiterate:
I just want to backport civ5 combat to civ3 somehow. The rest of it I could do without.

It's pretty, though.

Unfortunately that wouldn't work because you'd need the hexes and one unit per tile, which is the major change from Civ 3. Civ 3 wouldn't be Civ 3 without roads on every tile in your territory and stacks of 20 workers that can improve a mountain in one turn.

It's funny, I know catagorically that Civ IV is the better game in every respect except graphics/warfare but for some reason it bores the shit out of me while Civ 5 enthralls me. I guess it's because there's a lot less dead turns in CIv 5.

It's unforgivable however that the game shipped without hot-seat or... you know... an actual turn based mode for multiplayer. Simultaneous turns are great right up until the fighting begins. The interface (also vastly inferior to Civ iv's) simply isn't good enough to support the click click clickedy click of simulturn warfare. Nothing compares to the rage of seeing your army of horsemen getting decimated by enemy archers because at the begining of the turn the camera zoomed away to the otherside of the map so you could tell a worker what colour underwear he should put on today. It's a massive shame because the new combat system? Fuckin' awesome.

No multiplayer for me until Pitboss/turn based gameplay is restored.

I havn't had any crashing issues although there have been a few graphical hicups here and there, but nothing that would keep me from enjoying the game.

I'd say your Gandhi joke was even better. Also, the third strip was great.

Jaredin:
Mines nto crashesd yet and play it for nigh on 60 Hours+ now.

Love it myself, and Ghandi scares me - I just wanna make peace and he sends nukes to me! ;o

And yay for Dark ages!

If you can play more than 20 turns in strategic map mode, I shall congratulate you on being one lucky son of a city-state.

Yeha Civ 5 crashes all the time with I play it in DX 10/11 mode. I mean it crashes the whole computer and forces a reboot.

This one was great. I can just hear Gandhi yelling those curses in his voice.

To be honest, the differences between Civilization IV and Civilization V have created an awkward conundrum for me. Both of them seem equally good, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Civilization IV has better non-combat features and complete content (meaning I don't have to wait for any more expansions), while Civilization V seems to have a more user-friendly interface and better combat options.

I just can't make up my mind which one I should get...

I've played Civ 5 for 18 Hours now, no crash.

I LOVE trading with Ghandi he always has resources and is a terrible negotiator. I always get what I want from him, every single time.

Also use Direct 9, the other ones are broken lol.

Mine hasn't crashed yet, but it runs terribly just because my laptop can't handle it that well. Might have been cause I played the Huge World map right off the bat, that caused alot of chugging.

mine crashes once in a medium while...

I like the historical scenarios for just that reason. I realize they made the game specifically for modders but i would have prefered if they would have pre packaged several historical scenarios with it, or hell future ones i don't care i just want realistic type scenarios. I mean on earth mod its near impossible for me to conquer the same land as the roman empire in just a few turns without completely neglecting everything besides that.

Playing with DX9 the game has crashed exactly once for me. It was towards the end of a big game, where I had just started working on the Manhattan Project, and everyone else was trembling at the feet of my fasci...* cough *...autocratic empire. It bugged me a bit that I didn't get to nuke what was left of my enemies, but as I said: the game was pretty much over at that point. No big deal.

Samus, you don't know the half of it when it comes to people being idiots over civ 5.

I saw a thread on civfanatics asking why he needed to install "this steam virus"

I really liked Civilization when I was younger. But after experiencing the history and complexity that is the Europa Universalis series I'm not sure that I could go back. Enjoy though!

Civ 5 is the first Civ game I can actually remember playing. I found it to be rather fun and only hampered by the constant crashes, which makes it a bit pointless to play as I've had them happen just one turn after I loaded a save.

The Ambrosian:

Slighty off topic, but would you say Civ is more engaging online?
I've never had the urge to play online on a civ game...

I've tried a few times with friends. Never versus each other, only us versus the computer. I haven't done this yet with Civ5, but in Civ4, it ended up running really slowly, so I largely gave up on multiplayer. I'm not sure if we ever actually made it through an entire game, since usually we'd get tired of it or one of us would get too busy to find the time to play more. I did think it was more fun than solo, so I'm hoping it doesn't slow the game down so much in Civ5. Make sure it's someone who can handle the same difficulty as you, and understands the concept of taking quick turns!

oneplus999:

The Ambrosian:

Slighty off topic, but would you say Civ is more engaging online?
I've never had the urge to play online on a civ game...

I've tried a few times with friends. Never versus each other, only us versus the computer. I haven't done this yet with Civ5, but in Civ4, it ended up running really slowly, so I largely gave up on multiplayer. I'm not sure if we ever actually made it through an entire game, since usually we'd get tired of it or one of us would get too busy to find the time to play more. I did think it was more fun than solo, so I'm hoping it doesn't slow the game down so much in Civ5. Make sure it's someone who can handle the same difficulty as you, and understands the concept of taking quick turns!

I remember doing some play-by-email games with a good friend. We'd write elaborate emails detailing the histories and political manuevers for each turn. At the beginning, it would be the 'mythology' of our civilization, then 'historical documents', fictional quotes from speeches of the Great People, and finally some RP between the two of us. It was quite fun. Like when my Americans discovered Confucianism, we called it "Franklinism" and threw in saying from the both of individuals during the game.

As soon as he gets Civ V (he's going to college in the Netherlands right now, so he doesn't know when he'll get a chance to buy it), we've made plans to start doing it again.

Well Civ5 isn't the first Civ to use the crashing to windows exploit in its own version of the Dark Ages. Glad to see it is keeping up the tradition. One wonders if this crash happens after you beat Gandhi, so he destroys the world out of anger and being a whiny bitch.

HentMas:
in one play trough i was placed RIGHT next to ghandi, and a city state just above us, another city state (which served also as a "frontier" between me and suleiman and rome) asked that we destroyed the former one, so i created some army, and attacked, by this time Ghandi and me were with our borders relativelly one on top of the other, but neither had "sailing"

i capture the former city state, and ghandi goes ahead and starts being insulted and all, this was my first game, and i thought "yeah bitch, what are you gonna do about it!?" and in the next turn he had 5 catapults, a bunch of spear men, and well, some "elephants"? i dont know what they are called, havent gottem them my self

so, yeah, i was like "O SHIII..."

good thing he didnt went "all out war" on me, but i was "compelled" to agree to everything he asked from that point onward, haha.

So now your tag is, "Ghandi's Bitch?" Most amusing.

Mine crashes quite frequently :(

Most of history's unexplained phenomena are likely BSOD related.

HentMas:
in one play trough i was placed RIGHT next to ghandi, and a city state just above us, another city state (which served also as a "frontier" between me and suleiman and rome) asked that we destroyed the former one, so i created some army, and attacked, by this time Ghandi and me were with our borders relativelly one on top of the other, but neither had "sailing"

i capture the former city state, and ghandi goes ahead and starts being insulted and all, this was my first game, and i thought "yeah bitch, what are you gonna do about it!?" and in the next turn he had 5 catapults, a bunch of spear men, and well, some "elephants"? i dont know what they are called, havent gottem them my self

so, yeah, i was like "O SHIII..."

good thing he didnt went "all out war" on me, but i was "compelled" to agree to everything he asked from that point onward, haha.

Gandhi's unique unit is the war elephant. It owns face.

I think Civ 5 is The Best Civ ever made. :)

I am a thrall in the blood war over at civfanatics.com civilization forums, and I have never seen any of them make a statement as hateful as this:

Thanks for making the internet a little more stupid, guys. Allow me to take this opportunity to vomit on you on behalf of everyone else. I'd love to see how you guys would behave if you found yourselves in a situation where you cared about something that actually matters.

Neither have I seen particularly many who goes all ad hominem on their opponent, as you accuse them of. Given the average daily visitors to the site, that is pretty good.

Now, there are many people who criticize Civ V for being a dumbed down piece of RTS crap, but the whole concept of a forum is to exchange ideas, and being able to criticize is really fundamental to this.

I can only run DX9 (I think it's the fog of war that lags my video in DX10/11) and it hasn't crashed on me yet.

I'm in the I prefer Civ4 camp, though I'll continue to play 5 and hope for the best.

I changed my auto-save to every 2 turns (add keep 20) to counteract the somewhat frequent crashing. It's not enough to make me stop playing, but yeah, they should fix that.

And yes, the one-more-turn aspect of this games means I get far less sleep than I should...

Oh and I should say, these Civ5 vs. Civ4 arguments remind me very much of D&D 3rd edition vs. 4th edition. Very entertaining.

That was the best dis of internet bozos I've ever read.

Also, my crashing problems vanished entirely after updating my video card driver.

I'm going to go ahead and say that Civ 4 was probably the better game. That said, Civ 5 is still excellent and I've been playing it almost non stop for two weeks. The City states are a good gameplay driving force and the combat system seems pretty good.

Really should play Civ 3 at some point.

I like the rest have never crashed. I've beaten the game in 4 ways and am just now going to start another one. Its isn't an RTS either for that doesn't mean Turn Based Strategy.

The Ambrosian:

Slighty off topic, but would you say Civ is more engaging online?
I've never had the urge to play online on a civ game...

Its not for me, certainly. MP in civ seems like it just doesn't fit the spirit of the game. The most laughable was when I saw someone insult another player, and then say "well when you play a real game-- a duel on a mirrormap-- you'll see how much of a noob you are"

Well, playing civ games between two empires on mirror maps entirely eliminates whole facets of the game. If I want to have a well-defined multiplayer experience, I'll play starcraft or the like. If i want to play an empire management simulation, i'll play civ.

Ghandi always amuses me. For a peaceful man he sure can be a dick.

Oh and I've yet to get a crash, and by my Steam profile I got 51.9hrs logged. Dunno about the rest of you.

I'm so happy that the crashing happens to other people. Not because I enjoy other peoples dismay but because I thought my computer was dieing a slow death and couldn't handle the game for that long. My faith is restored!

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