Zero Punctuation: Fallout: New Vegas

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It was very much a review from where I'm sitting. It's pretty much an expansion of Fallout3 with some new features, same ol' bugs and glitches and not much else, just like he said.

Jonabob87:

KillerRabbit:

Scarecrow 8:

I don't quite understand what you mean by 'seeing the point' of not playing the game on the pc. Does the pc make the game better? Does it raise the immersion? I woundn't think so.

For example, in no special order:
* User made mods
* Graphics 100 times better
* Better control with mouse and keyboard
* Thanks to pc, we have games like these - with immersion, while console games is only dumbing down anything. Some console games you only have to press "X" from time to time to complete a game. So no I will not support dumbing down games (meaning buying consoles/games for them).

I see we have a member of the 'Glorious PC master race' here. User made mods are generally shit (I used to be a PC gamer, I know). They lack a polish and shine that professional add-ons have.

The PC doesn't have graphics that are a hundred times better. Why? Because the game is limited graphically so's not to make the console versions look bad.

I hate mouse and keyboard. It's too easy.

Name this game where you press X every now and then to win. Seriously, don't be such an elitist, open your mind! Just because you prefer something doesn't mean it's better and people who prefer something else are retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY

KillerRabbit:

Jonabob87:

KillerRabbit:

For example, in no special order:
* User made mods
* Graphics 100 times better
* Better control with mouse and keyboard
* Thanks to pc, we have games like these - with immersion, while console games is only dumbing down anything. Some console games you only have to press "X" from time to time to complete a game. So no I will not support dumbing down games (meaning buying consoles/games for them).

I see we have a member of the 'Glorious PC master race' here. User made mods are generally shit (I used to be a PC gamer, I know). They lack a polish and shine that professional add-ons have.

The PC doesn't have graphics that are a hundred times better. Why? Because the game is limited graphically so's not to make the console versions look bad.

I hate mouse and keyboard. It's too easy.

Name this game where you press X every now and then to win. Seriously, don't be such an elitist, open your mind! Just because you prefer something doesn't mean it's better and people who prefer something else are retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY

I noticed how he didn't start from the beginning of the game, you said completed a game, not a mission.

KillerRabbit:

Jonabob87:

KillerRabbit:

For example, in no special order:
* User made mods
* Graphics 100 times better
* Better control with mouse and keyboard
* Thanks to pc, we have games like these - with immersion, while console games is only dumbing down anything. Some console games you only have to press "X" from time to time to complete a game. So no I will not support dumbing down games (meaning buying consoles/games for them).

I see we have a member of the 'Glorious PC master race' here. User made mods are generally shit (I used to be a PC gamer, I know). They lack a polish and shine that professional add-ons have.

The PC doesn't have graphics that are a hundred times better. Why? Because the game is limited graphically so's not to make the console versions look bad.

I hate mouse and keyboard. It's too easy.

Name this game where you press X every now and then to win. Seriously, don't be such an elitist, open your mind! Just because you prefer something doesn't mean it's better and people who prefer something else are retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY

That's being played on a PC bro, thanks for destroying your own point.

It does not matter what computer/console it is played on, my point is that the whole gaming industry is dumbing down any game ever made right now, with some exceptions. (Tip of the day: fire hurts) etc...

lol the game does freez alot wich is incredably anyoing

For some reason, I was incredibly incensed a month ago, when this review came out. I came back and watched it again to see why, and... I'm sure I brought up my issues with it in some post back then. This particular one struck a cord, because it's one of the few console games I've played, and therefore one of the few where I knew when he skipped text.

That wasn't even a review. I guess he really, REALLY meant it literally when he said same opinion as for Fallout 3.

*Shamelessly bumps topic*

I recently acquired Fallout: New Vegas and I must say that it's a lot of fun, especially on Hardcore mode (which I dove straight into, despite having never played any of the previous Fallout games). :-P

It's funny, because it was this video that motivated me to get it and I only just realised the other day, while wandering around in third-person mode in the Mojave Wasteland, that the character I spent hours creating with the RobCo Reflectron actually bears a physical resemblance to Yahtzee, complete with spectacles and a jaunty fedora hat. ^.^

It doesn't help either that for the first hour of exploring Goodsprings, I stole everything that wasn't nailed down (Abraxo cleaner, pilot lights, alcohol, you name it) and was overencumbered with useless junk by the end of hunting tutorial with Sunny Smiles. >_>;

ChupathingyX:
Also a while ago Yahtzee complained about Red Dead Redemption and I clearly remember him writing in an Extra Punctuation article that RDR would've been a lot better if you had to eat and drink while in the desert. New Vegas does exactly that and now he's complaining about it?

Ah. Fourteen pages and you're the only one who made note of this. Good show, sir.

Indeed, Mr. Croshaw did suggest this very thing in his Extra Punctuation column.

Ben Croshaw:
What it needed was a survival mechanic. On-screen meters for hunger, thirst and exhaustion, which constantly tick down as you adventure, requiring that you frequently eat, hydrate and camp out or hire a room for the night. Neglecting these stats worsens your aim, striking power and sprinting ability and decreases the size of your health bar, and may eventually cause you to pass out, at which point it's even odds whether a good samaritan finds you first or a mountain lion. Lose the insta-horse recall button and make it easier for a horse you're not riding to wander off, die or get nicked by opportunistic Mexicans.

Instantly, with the struggle of human existence reinstated, virtually every other mechanic is enriched. Money has more worth because of the appeal of softer beds, larger canteens and tastier food. Players would have to be sure they were properly equipped before heading out of town. For a game with a plot whose central theme seems to be "pretentious trappings of civilization versus harsh purity of the wilderness," it would be most fitting if the player had to ask themselves how much it would take for them to abandon civilization. How desperate will you need to be before you succumb to the wilderness yourself? Before the dog transmutes back into the wolf?

It starts with some pinching of pies from window sills when times are thrifty. Then one day a mountain lion bites your horse's throat out miles from anywhere and after a punishing few miles' walk under the baking sun it's simplicity itself to lasso a passing rider and run off with his mare. You're just doing what you have to do to survive, right? Before you know it you're holding up widows in the street. Evil gets easier and easier and the bounty on your head climbs higher and higher. Them high-and-mighty city folk just don't understand what it's like out here, gol durn it.

I am wondering if there is any difference between what he describes here and what's in New Vegas. Perhaps hardcore mode doesn't quite work like this or is sufficiently different that it doesn't have the "enriching' gameplay benefit described.

Or maybe it was just a dumb idea.

the antithesis:

Or maybe it was just a dumb idea.

Pretty much that. Some comments on the EP article for RDR called bullshit right away, saying he'd just complain about it if the game did have those mechanics. Then NV comes and has them, and of course, that's exactly what happened.

the antithesis:

ChupathingyX:
Also a while ago Yahtzee complained about Red Dead Redemption and I clearly remember him writing in an Extra Punctuation article that RDR would've been a lot better if you had to eat and drink while in the desert. New Vegas does exactly that and now he's complaining about it?

Ah. Fourteen pages and you're the only one who made note of this. Good show, sir.

Indeed, Mr. Croshaw did suggest this very thing in his Extra Punctuation column.

I thought he just complained about soda dehydrating you.

Hey Yahtzee, I hope you're aware that pop actually dehydrates you which is why it does that. I don't think it is very fair to complain about a game for something that you weren't aware of.

Sir John the Net Knight:
There are three constants in man's life. Death, Taxes, and Bethesda games that will bug out and crash.

You're forgetting the fourth constant, smug gits (like me) who let everyone else do the beta testing and buy the GOTY edition in a sale with bundled DLC for 15 in a couple of years.

Fallout is my favorite Post-Apocalyptic series... oh wait, well, it's one of the only ones that can pull it off. I started with Fallout 3, then went back to play Fallout 1 and 2. I enjoyed 1 and 2's story line over 3, but 3 was more addicting and I beat 1 twice and 2 three times, while I thoroughly 3 over 8 times. New Vegas, on the other hand, has a lot to offer, and to be honest, if I was first introduced to New Vegas without all of the glitches, I would've not been able to play Fallout 3 at all. Fallout: New Vegas has an exciting story line and sub-quests. Finding the guy who killed you and all, it's pretty fun. Until you can't enter the Strip because of an infamous glitch which took me 2 weeks of having my auto-save deleted, only to find out that I needed to find an Old Cowboy Hat to enter... still, I'm still shocked that they released DLC without thoroughly patching New Vegas. Anyway, New Vegas got a 8/10 from me, and got 2 taken off for the excessive glitching and bugs.

Never even once did he complain about there being survival elements in the game.

Why, was it too much of a bloody bother to actually watch the review before whining about it?

syltman:
Not much of a review... enjoyable anyway

Why would he have reviewed the same game twice?

Yahtzee gets bonus points for "In The Mood",
love that song

Brutal romantic conquests, is there any other kind? Maybe, but they're not nearly as fun and exciting.

Hardcore mainly means you keep purified water stocked and drink it periodicalyl to keep from getting debuffed until you unlock an achievement at the end. Woop-de-doo. It makes combat a touch harder b/c companions can die and stimpacks heal over time instead of immediately. It's not that big a difference or challenge.

KEM10:

Okysho:
lol! It froze at the end. Well there's another game I don't have to be ashamed of not owning

Pick it up on Black Friday, by then they will have a good number of the bugs sorted out. But you noticed how his only criticisms were soda makes you dehydrated (it does) and it crashed. He had more anger when it came to Batman and he said that was one the better games he has picked up.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

IT DOESN'T
Not sugar, not caffeine. And amount of them is so miserable, that it can't do any difference to watter balance. That makes you drink more and more (if you think that it's thirsty... but it's not, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A DEHYDRATION - 2 different words!!!) is acid-sugar(+ some other stuff) combination: you can't drink enough, always want more and more.

Great review! It's not a game, it's a one big bug, no... it's a tons of bugs, big bugs.

Yahtzee should totally recap the story of games! I understand that he did it because he was RPG-ing, but it was pretty friggin' funny!

This review pretty much explains why I love Fallout, he never really got too angry at it, the only real problem of course is all the damn glitches and freezing.

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