Review: Pokémon Black & White Versions

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Serris:

Irridium:
Does this game's online features still require a WEP connection? Because I'm sick of not being able to go online in SoulSilver because I have a WPA connection.

erms, my connection uses wpa, and i can go online with SS.
it doesn't depend on your game, it depends on your DS.
only DSi's and later have wpa support.

Yeah I know. But I don't feel like buying another DS. Plus then I wouldn't be able to play my GBA games.

I'm still playing a GBA. I seriously need to get caught up. I want to play this so much. It's depressing.

Irridium:
Does this game's online features still require a WEP connection? Because I'm sick of not being able to go online in SoulSilver because I have a WPA connection.

If someone hasn't answered this, if you have a DSi, then yes it is possible. It says it is on the back of my pokemon black box anyway.

Irridium:

Serris:

Irridium:
Does this game's online features still require a WEP connection? Because I'm sick of not being able to go online in SoulSilver because I have a WPA connection.

erms, my connection uses wpa, and i can go online with SS.
it doesn't depend on your game, it depends on your DS.
only DSi's and later have wpa support.

Yeah I know. But I don't feel like buying another DS. Plus then I wouldn't be able to play my GBA games.

then why do you ask if it can use wepconnection, when you KNOW it's the ds that's responsible for the encryption :S

Serris:

Irridium:

Serris:

erms, my connection uses wpa, and i can go online with SS.
it doesn't depend on your game, it depends on your DS.
only DSi's and later have wpa support.

Yeah I know. But I don't feel like buying another DS. Plus then I wouldn't be able to play my GBA games.

then why do you ask if it can use wepconnection, when you KNOW it's the ds that's responsible for the encryption :S

Sorry, should have been more clear. I meant that I recently found out SoulSilver could use WPA, and that it was the DS itself that was the problem.

Tiswas:
Also wanna point out the first trainer battle is against......

YOUNGSTER JIMMY.

And yes.

He has a RAT.

I didn't quite feel this game would measure up until you pointed that out.

thought the game wasn't out til tomorrow

It came out yesterday for Europe.

MrPop:
My friend got this today and we looked through the Pokemon list and I find it hilarious that there are some new Pokemon based on Icecream cones and one call Chandelurr or something and based on a chandelier.

It seems like quite a good game still. I think I'd miss getting my Magicarp though and slowly levelling it up like I have in all the previous ones.

Icecream-mon uses BRAINFREEZE...target is paralyzed!

N.1 Ninja Of 2010:

Koroviev:

N.1 Ninja Of 2010:

Even though you can't spell ignorance without RAN.

I don't quite follow.

You can't spell Countersignatures without IGN.

All right then.

I get my Pokemon White in Sunday but I already have it pre-ordered.

I get my Pokemon White in Sunday but I already have it pre-ordered.

SketchyFK:
in his review he states:
---- "You won't see a single Pikachu until well after you've beaten the game,"

one is on a poster and another in Castelia City.

there's also a pikachu topiary in the garden to the left of straiton city...

i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

I would love a Pokemon MMO. It would depend on what platform if it was on.
I doubt they'd release it on the PC because I'd imagine they'd have to pay some fee to release a game on some one else's "system". They would also not want to promote someone else's system.

The obvious choices would be Wii (or next gen abomination) and the handhelds.

Given Black and White seem closer to an MMO than ever, they'll probably go down the route of the handheld.

However the amount of people who own a DS and are unable to connect to a wireless network with theirs, I think it would be an unfair choice.

I *do* hope they make one for the PC, but I doubt they will. We can always dream though. Like how I hope to live long enough for when they release true virtual reality and create a Virtual reality version of Pokemon.

*tangent*

I don't like how the camera 'wonders' during battles. I think it might cause travel sickness.

scw55:

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

I would love a Pokemon MMO. It would depend on what platform if it was on.
I doubt they'd release it on the PC because I'd imagine they'd have to pay some fee to release a game on some one else's "system". They would also not want to promote someone else's system.

The obvious choices would be Wii (or next gen abomination) and the handhelds.

Given Black and White seem closer to an MMO than ever, they'll probably go down the route of the handheld.

However the amount of people who own a DS and are unable to connect to a wireless network with theirs, I think it would be an unfair choice.

I *do* hope they make one for the PC, but I doubt they will. We can always dream though. Like how I hope to live long enough for when they release true virtual reality and create a Virtual reality version of Pokemon.

i dunno nintendo could jsut do it's thing as a publisher, and make one for PC. That'd be the sensible thing to do because the wii internet connectivity is convoluted with the wii address thing. However the next gen system releasing with a poke'mon MMO in it's release library would be a good idea.

One thing to think about is, how big is the MMO market in japan? japan is nintendo's terf and the market there is what drives their business plan. western audiences run the MMOs in my mind.

then again this could all be folly because one of the main demographics for poke'mon is kids. These games like it or not is for people of all ages. MMOS seem to steer towards teenagers, 20 and 30 year olds who can afford monthly subscriptions.

In my mind the most likely poke'mon MMO is gonna be on the next gen nintendo system, or PC or both. probably have a single player campaign and free to play multiplayer online feature for internet connected players (think phantasy star online). I dunno if that would be the best way to do it but looking back on JMMORPGS thats what i think we'll get.

Hyper-space:

TMs can be used infinitely

Back.The.Fuck.Off.

Nothing will be the same.

I know, right?
Team Beam-Bolt-Thrower anyone?(Ice Beam + Thunderbolt + flamethrower = DEATH)

Or how about team earthquake?

The only problem with Black and white i have, is for a game that the main thing is catch them all, all the new ones are just so unwanted to me i dont want to catch any of them. and the starters are just so meh i dont want any of the 3 -_- to me they have just run out of design ideas.

stormcrow5:
The only problem with Black and white i have, is for a game that the main thing is catch them all, all the new ones are just so unwanted to me i dont want to catch any of them. and the starters are just so meh i dont want any of the 3 -_- to me they have just run out of design ideas.

this has been my biggest problem with poke'mon after silver/gold. and while i still have the original 150 memorized i don't know but a handful of the newer ones. i like the idea of expnading the world and using poke'mon in different enviorments. poke'mon snap was interesting in this aspect that you got to see poke'mon interacting with their enviorments. and graphical upgrades made poke'mon games better at this. they need to take what they have in poke'mon and use it in new direction.

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

Yeah, it would be unstoppable if executed correctly; me and my friends had a drunken conversation about it that turned into writing a design doc for the game...

The next morning we were all really depressed that it doesn't exist.

You guys are not making this wait for me any easier, it better be available at midnight.

DarkShadow144:
It comes out tomorrow in the U.S. its just one more day, but I WANT IT NOW! I want my Oshawott Damn it!

yeah, I love how Oshawott sounds almost as Japanese than it's Japanese name(Mijumaru)

I can only imagine that the powerful TM's like Hyper Beam are harder to find than the shit ones. My brother bought the game. It didn't really fell much different until about an hour or so into gameplay. It's pretty good so far. :)

I would have thought you'd talk about the world a bit more. One very interesting thing about Black and White is that not only are the pokemon rosters slightly different, but the actual region of Unova is different in each game. For intstance, whereas Black has a city in a particular part of the world, White has a forest in the same place. Pretty cool huh?

why 5/5? WHY im not trusting this review site again

ionveau:
why 5/5? WHY im not trusting this review site again

Why not? It obviously fulfilled everything expected from it and more.

OT: Personally, I'm not surprised. With the exception of Ruby/Sapphire, I cant realy remember a pokemon game in the main group that didnt do well. And even then, R/S was only average.

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

well there's always those rather cruddy ones you can find online that dont feel like much of a pokemon game. If you're really Jonesing I mean.

SirBryghtside:

Tharwen:
Does anyone know if this'll run on a first-gen DS?

I got one when they first came out and it's still alive (give or take a few pixels), so I might just get this at some point.

Hell yeah! I've had mine for ~5 years, and it's serving me well today.

As I play Pokémon White.

Today.

*Laughs at Americans for the third time*

So... it works? :o

Hurrah!

My DS may weigh twice as much as the average one, and it may have a dimly lit screen with no camera attached. It may have a few dead pixels, and the sound might cut out occasionally, but all of that doesn't matter. It's served me well these past few years, and... most importantly... it's mine.

emeraldrafael:

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

well there's always those rather cruddy ones you can find online that dont feel like much of a pokemon game. If you're really Jonesing I mean.

I playe one once... I doesn't matter how much i'm jonesing, never again.

rayen020:

emeraldrafael:

rayen020:
i'm still waiting for the poke'mon MMORPG. it makes more sense than anything else and if there is a way to kill WoW i'm pretty sure this would do it.

well there's always those rather cruddy ones you can find online that dont feel like much of a pokemon game. If you're really Jonesing I mean.

I playe one once... I doesn't matter how much i'm jonesing, never again.

XD Yeah, that was my reaction too. Thats why I dont ask about Pokemon MMOs anymore.

So far the bad guys seem completely reasonable, I want to join them. These aren't really animals because they are thinking and reasoning (I think? they're far smarter than your real pig)

ionveau:
why 5/5? WHY im not trusting this review site again

Yeah, despite the fact it's easily the best game in the series, clearly, it deserved a worse score. You know..cause it's better..or something.

ionveau:
why 5/5? WHY im not trusting this review site again

Things may not change much in a Pokemon game (and if they do it's a minor change with a huge impact), the grinding may get a bit boring, the story can seem a bit dull and childish in places.

But one thing about a Pokemon game is that is so god damn fun to play, you can be on it for hours and not realise that 4 hours have passed, the world draws you in, and that is why they get high ratings.

argue all you want, but Pokemon games will always sell well and get high ratings, and until people get bored of them (which they won't because of the above) they will continue to flourish and thrive and be the best games on ANY portable system.

Daedalus1942:
Honestly... the noise is just as annoying as it originally was if not moreso.
Even if it's mixed in with the music, it's now more prominent and the beat in itself is incredibly repetitive and I already hate it.
-Tabs<3-

Agreed. This seems more like a negative change the more I think about it. Just imagine, you're in the Elite 4, awesome battle theme is playing, and then they knock you down to the red and suddenly you're listening to that. Boo!

Plus I don't see why we need the beeping anyway. We have health bars with numbers for a reason. I can see when I have only 10 hit points left out of 300, because it says "10/300" and the bar that was one full is almost empty. I do not also need a constant, grating beep going off at me.

Also, unrelated to the post I quoted, a Pokémon MMO is still the worst idea for a video game ever. You can already battle and trade online, and that's all you need. None of the rest of the game would benefit from throwing other, annoying people in there. I want to take on the gyms without some n00blets stalking me and begging for Charizards and Master Balls and rare candies and insulting my mother when I don't answer them.
Thankfully, Nintendo's hatred of online without Friend Codes will ensure that such a terrible game is never released to the public.

TheEvilCheese:
I know, right?
Team Beam-Bolt-Thrower anyone?(Ice Beam + Thunderbolt + flamethrower = DEATH)

Or how about team earthquake?

You would beat the AI easily, but a skilled human opponent would kick your ass. Plus, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Flamethrower were always three of the TMs, and you could always get more of them in the games, so if having unlimited use of those TMs was going to break the game, it would have back when Diamond and Pearl came out.

You know what I noticed reading through this again (like, actually reading through. the first time I mainly skimmed cause I was in a hurry)?

They didnt talk about the Dream World, or the way pokemon will get new natures through it.

From the sounds of it, i'm going to like this pokemon version. The last new pokemon that gave me thrills was Ruby/Sapphire, which were pretty damn good imo. I only hope they didn't fuck up the new pokemon designs to badly.

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