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Act of Valor

MovieBob aims his attention at the epic Navy recruiting film Act of Valor.

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I think it says a lot that half that video consisted of apologetic disclaimers.

Shame they went and included the wankier aspects. One would think this movie would have presented a good opportunity to avoid that stuff.

I respect the hell out of the military, too, Bob. I also know I respect them best by admitting I don't belong anywhere near them. Awesome review.

Also, Post-Credits Simpsons reference FTW!

Great review as usual Bob and I love the Simpsons reference you threw in at the end there.

I wonder if Michael Bay is weeping that he didn't get to make this or scoffing that his action scenes would have been more awesome.

Wasn't there this big horror film this month about a guy trying to sell a haunted house? Because he mentioned it in is article but hasn't mentioned it in these videos.

You seemed really scared about pissing anyone off in this review Bob, kind of a change from what we normally see. We're used to seeing you shout off your opinion without a care for who it offends, and I like that. You didn't really need to tell us all how you respect the SEALs every 20 seconds, you could have just said it once.

But anyway, I'm not particularly fond of the whole Gung ho action war movie, so chances are I'm not going to watch this.

I find it a shame that someone who is critiquing a movie has to go that far out of their way to mention that they're criticising the movie and not the job which the movie is portraying.
We don't get this before 'Cop Out'... "I'm not saying cops are bad blah blah, but movie is bad".

he really did seem so frightened to make any negative comments about this movie.

It makes me wonder why he has so much "respect" for some people, but others can go screw themselves.

Less Wank, more tank.
Well that's good, but I wonder what Movie Bob really thinks of the military?

Edit: Also, I don't doubt that real munitions were used during filming, but the truck explosion they keep repeating in the trailers still looks a little too flashy. Especially after seeing a demonstration of the actual hardware.


Or maybe I'm just seeing things.

I wonder what a non-American would think about the propaganda-level of this film.

MovieBob:
Act of Valor

MovieBob aims his attention at the epic Navy recruiting film Act of Valor.

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Good, fair treatment of the material. I see this movie as an experiment. It's not meant to propagandize (ie, sway the opinions of the masses) as much as it's meant to appeal to already-fans of this kind of thing, and see if it takes.

And on another hand, I really have no problem with the military working to ensure a mostly-positive spin in Hollywood appearances. What they do is usually not very action-filled, and when it is, it's not "fun" or "pretty." It's flat-out ugly. They're going to get plenty of negative spin because what they do involves killing people. (In addition to the statisticallyextremely uncommon scandalous stuff we hear so much about lately.)

An army has to do awful things, and the public needs men able and willing to do those things. Often, we only hear/talk/care about what they do when it goes wrong. Really think about this:

1. We have a military so that we don't all have to deal with all of the awful things they have to do.
2. Because we don't have to deal with those awful things, we forget about them... or at least lose perspective on them.
3. We make unreasonable demands about how they do/don't do those awful things we originally tasked them to do.
4. They don't get it done, so it either doesn't get done or it falls back to us.
5. We decide to have a military, so that we don't have to deal... and so on.

Running PR for an organization like the military must be an absolute nightmare, because even on the best days, you're an organization whose job it is to kill lots of people(or at least stay prepared to do so). Seems to be that job would be impossible without a little "hero porn" and a bit of preemptive damage control.

Dont alot of hollywood movies get money from the petagon as long as the Americans are the good guys which is why alot of movies have the mighty american sterotype

I just wanna say that I love the little tidbits thrown in at the end of your EttM videos. Especially when they're informative like today's were. Nice touch Bob.

Thanks. :)

Odin_kru:
he really did seem so frightened to make any negative comments about this movie.

It makes me wonder why he has so much "respect" for some people, but others can go screw themselves.

I guess he feels some things are too sacred to criticise, and I tend to agree. It's one thing to criticise the act of war, but the personel are performing a thankless task in often terrible situations. The last thing they need or want to hear are civilians armchair quarterbacking from the safety of suburbia.

Great review. Shame this movie wasn't that good. I wasn't really expecting it to be that good, but still.

Odin_kru:
he really did seem so frightened to make any negative comments about this movie.

It makes me wonder why he has so much "respect" for some people, but others can go screw themselves.

Because most people don't go out and risk their lives for their country, and most people aren't genuine badasses. Also, most people didn't kill Bin Laden. Really, other people can go screw themselves I suppose. Not that I think that, but I can understand why Bob would.

The Pentagon had a problem with UFO coverups, but not Randy Quaid?

As for the Act of Valor, it does sound like the sort of thing that would have made a much better documentary.

Will definitely file this film under I for Interesting...

And as I always say about the military, they are doing a job. Those who do it well should be praised, those who don't should not be.

And yes, I'm aware that its a dangerous job that is often thankless and criticised , but so are garbage men and sewer workers.

Also, I would love to see the same premise done again but with the SAS...all the good points of this movie, plus a healthy dash of Britishness to boot...

I'll probably see it. DEcent enough review Bob.

That said I like how you managed to squeeze in that Transformers comment at the beginning of your review. You really are desperate to keep on picking that stab aren't you?

CrankyStorming:
Wasn't there this big horror film this month about a guy trying to sell a haunted house? Because he mentioned it in is article but hasn't mentioned it in these videos.

That was The Woman In Black, and it's North American release was a couple weeks ago. It's pretty good if you want real old school creep factor horror and don't need blood guts and gore to make something "scary."

Did anyone else get a scare when he stopped himself midway from saying "see you next time?" I thought another good series was getting cancelled.

I wonder if Moviebob spent so much time qualifying his opinion because there really isn't a lot to this movie. B action movie with above average special effects seems to cover it.

OT: Moviebob seemed to be upset in the quick facts at the end because the US military doesn't rent out its stuff unless people make them out to be the good guys. I'm curious, do you think ANYBODY would contribute to a film that makes them look bad?

Cowabungaa:
I wonder what a non-American would think about the propaganda-level of this film.

Not sure about the film, but there's too much of it in the review already.

There is such a thing as respecting people who are good at their job, but this amount of ass-kissing and hero worship was obscene.

Kargathia:

Cowabungaa:
I wonder what a non-American would think about the propaganda-level of this film.

Not sure about the film, but there's too much of it in the review already.

There is such a thing as respecting people who are good at their job, but this amount of ass-kissing and hero worship was obscene.

I'm inclined to agree. Half the review was spent apologizing for having a friggin' opinion, which is honestly extremely non-MovieBob-like. Hence why I'd like to have a non-American take on this thing.

I do not respect the military, but Bob review made me want to watch the movie, untill the part when he said it has those cliché parts and typical dialogues. Won't be seeing this.

Two things

1. Not all propaganda is recruitment drives. Half of it is justifying what you have done. I'm not a fan of the work of 90% of the military and the more "realistic" movies about real wars get, the more I see it as attempts to further justify often illegal military action.

2. Anyone see this making a splash outside of middle America? Didn't think so.

I am a sucker for military tactics and squad based combat so I'm gonna give this one a try. Even though I'd never consider joining any branch of military. I have very low opinion of the military at this moment. Not just US military, but military organizations everywhere. Hard to know who the actual good guys are anymore.

StriderShinryu:

CrankyStorming:
Wasn't there this big horror film this month about a guy trying to sell a haunted house? Because he mentioned it in is article but hasn't mentioned it in these videos.

That was The Woman In Black, and it's North American release was a couple weeks ago. It's pretty good if you want real old school creep factor horror and don't need blood guts and gore to make something "scary."

Are you sure they're not thinking about Silent House, which isn't scheduled to release until the 9th?

well as a non american, as long as you dont rub in my face that youre better than me, im fine. oh and as so long as you dont lie. i respect any man capable of being a soldier in a war. i dont respect the organizations they work for often. when i say i hate the military, i hate its ideals and leaders sometimes(mostly the american one since it is so full of itself) but the individual soldiers themselves i have nothing but respect for.

Was actually hoping to see a review of Bullhead.

370999:
That said I like how you managed to squeeze in that Transformers comment at the beginning of your review. You really are desperate to keep on picking that stab aren't you?

At least it's in reference to stuff he actually has already said. I don't recall ever hearing him rant about piracy before.

Evil Alpaca:
OT: Moviebob seemed to be upset in the quick facts at the end because the US military doesn't rent out its stuff unless people make them out to be the good guys. I'm curious, do you think ANYBODY would contribute to a film that makes them look bad?

I'm more curious why it's ever more cost-effective to borrow the real thing than to just order authentic-looking replicas. Surely the military has better things to do with their equipment than loan it out to a bunch of yahoos with cameras.

Dastardly:

MovieBob:
Act of Valor

MovieBob aims his attention at the epic Navy recruiting film Act of Valor.

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Good, fair treatment of the material. I see this movie as an experiment. It's not meant to propagandize (ie, sway the opinions of the masses) as much as it's meant to appeal to already-fans of this kind of thing, and see if it takes.

And on another hand, I really have no problem with the military working to ensure a mostly-positive spin in Hollywood appearances. What they do is usually not very action-filled, and when it is, it's not "fun" or "pretty." It's flat-out ugly. They're going to get plenty of negative spin because what they do involves killing people. (In addition to the statisticallyextremely uncommon scandalous stuff we hear so much about lately.)

An army has to do awful things, and the public needs men able and willing to do those things. Often, we only hear/talk/care about what they do when it goes wrong. Really think about this:

1. We have a military so that we don't all have to deal with all of the awful things they have to do.
2. Because we don't have to deal with those awful things, we forget about them... or at least lose perspective on them.
3. We make unreasonable demands about how they do/don't do those awful things we originally tasked them to do.
4. They don't get it done, so it either doesn't get done or it falls back to us.
5. We decide to have a military, so that we don't have to deal... and so on.

Running PR for an organization like the military must be an absolute nightmare, because even on the best days, you're an organization whose job it is to kill lots of people(or at least stay prepared to do so). Seems to be that job would be impossible without a little "hero porn" and a bit of preemptive damage control.

Having served in the military (US Army) myself, I can tell you that the real job of the military is actually the complete opposite. The job of the military is actually to save lives, and to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic ...first and foremost.

Yes the military does teach you to kill and most of my combat training centered around becoming more efficient at it, but the real goal of the military is always defense first, and to kill only as a last resort.

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StriderShinryu:

CrankyStorming:
Wasn't there this big horror film this month about a guy trying to sell a haunted house? Because he mentioned it in is article but hasn't mentioned it in these videos.

That was The Woman In Black, and it's North American release was a couple weeks ago. It's pretty good if you want real old school creep factor horror and don't need blood guts and gore to make something "scary."

Are you sure they're not thinking about Silent House, which isn't scheduled to release until the 9th?

No, I don't know for sure. I just checked out the trailer for Silent House and it looks really good. It's tough to say which one was on the poster's mind, but both deal with haunted houses and more traditional horror type scares. I don't recall Bob mentioning Silent House anywhere, but I'm sure I could have missed it. Good catch though as I now want to see Silent House lol

Was the 1:30 minutes of military ass-kissing really necessary?

They made a movie and gave it a theatrical release, they should expect it to be critiqued like any other movie in the theater, any respect Moviebob or anyone else has for the real military should have no bearing on the judgement that the movie receives.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the military, but I will also add that being a soldier doesn't make one a hero and that soldiers are just as likely to be douche-bags as any other human being.

Anyway, movie looks interesting, might give it a look if it ever goes across the Atlantic, even if that isn't terribly likely.

Steve the Pocket:

Evil Alpaca:
OT: Moviebob seemed to be upset in the quick facts at the end because the US military doesn't rent out its stuff unless people make them out to be the good guys. I'm curious, do you think ANYBODY would contribute to a film that makes them look bad?

I'm more curious why it's ever more cost-effective to borrow the real thing than to just order authentic-looking replicas. Surely the military has better things to do with their equipment than loan it out to a bunch of yahoos with cameras.

The US army lends out advisor, personnel and equipment if they are shown in a good light in a movie. Public relations for the military IS important - and honestly, it's not like 100% of the US army is fighting in the middle east all the time.
So a moviemaker gets lots of support for no cost - why would you order replicas?

Don't really care about US propaganda, but just sayin'.

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