Why The Witcher 2 Needed an Enhanced Edition

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animehermit:

Waaghpowa:

Let's also not forget how often the console releases of numerous games being leaked weeks in advanced on torrents. So it's jut not "our" community, it's people in general who are the jerks pirating these games. Stop trying to put labels on this whole issue, because it's not simply one group at fault.

I didn't just say it was our community who pirates games. I said that The Witcher 2 was pirated a whole bunch even though there wasn't intrusive DRM. I mentioned the PC gaming community because it was (at the time) a PC only release. You seem dead on trying to disprove a point I'm not trying to make. I never said console games never get pirated, but The Witcher 2 DID get pirated a whole bunch. The sad fact of the matter is, is that developers are going to use this as reason to include more DRM >:(

First off, there's a bit of a "well not shit" moment when concerning PC piracy with a game that was, at the time, a PC exclusive.

Second, there's no concrete proof that the game was pirated that many times since it was an "estimate" from someone at CDPR. I assume you didn't watch the video.

Third
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The fact that it got pirated a whole lot is irrelevant. Piracy will occur whether you put security in your game or not. Some of the most heavily pirated games are the ones with DRM. CDPR understands that DRM does nothing but punish your honest customers and the people who are going to pirate it are going to get pirate it anyway. You do not make life harder for the honest people in an attempt to stop the dishonest when it's ultimately futile. Companies should take notes from CDPR because they understand the issue and know not to waste their time on it. You can't stop piracy. Sure they made it easier to pirate, but they'll have returning customers.

The only developer who even came close to stopping piracy was Croteam with the Pink scorpion and that was also broken.

In case it wasn't clear, point 3 was what I was getting at. Note the bolded section.

Waaghpowa:
I wish just about every major developer/publisher could take notes from these guys. Everyone else seems hell bent on treating their customers like shitty thieves while simultaneously spending millions making mediocre games because of "mass market appeal".

It's nice to have someone sell their product to you without a suspicious glare and a test of my loyalty after I've handed them my money for it.

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I never met one person that genuinely liked the game, but ok, maybe it's my friends with their tastes. What infuriates me however, is that even people that liked the game would point out numerous flaws of it. Most fans would say some of the characters were cool (even I liked varric, and I think DA2 was the worst moneygrab BW ever pulled) but they complained about the graphics, combat system, endlessly spawning enemies and EVERYONE complained about reused maps.

You simply cannot give a 10/10 to a game with that many glaring flaws. I know EA didin't pay you, I know you probably had to give it a good score to have review copies, bonuses, invites and such, this is the reality ov reviewing nowadays. But giving DA2 10/10 was totally bending over to EA and it forever stained this sites credibility. And you know it.

cieply:

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I never met one person that genuinely liked the game, but ok, maybe it's my friends with their tastes. What infuriates me however, is that even people that liked the game would point out numerous flaws of it. Most fans would say some of the characters were cool (even I liked varric, and I think DA2 was the worst moneygrab BW ever pulled) but they complained about the graphics, combat system, endlessly spawning enemies and EVERYONE complained about reused maps.

You simply cannot give a 10/10 to a game with that many glaring flaws. I know EA didin't pay you, I know you probably had to give it a good score to have review copies, bonuses, invites and such, this is the reality ov reviewing nowadays. But giving DA2 10/10 was totally bending over to EA and it forever stained this sites credibility. And you know it.

Oh, I know it, do I? Gosh! Also, we don't do scores out of 10. Just a minor nitpick.

We gave it the score we did because we believed it was an excellent game. We never said it was perfect - we've never said any game was perfect. We didn't feel pressured to say it was good because of review copies or invites or any such bullshit like that. We actually just genuinely liked it.

If you can't accept that because your friends all hated the game, there's really not much else to be said.

Daystar Clarion:

Mcoffey:

Greg Tito:

To clarify, the women are still there in the whorehouse but, as far as I can tell, you can't pay them to do anything.

Awww, that's like having a lamp with no light-bulb, or a gun with no trigger. :(

What? You can still have sex with prostitutes.

There's some in the pub in the first town I got to.

Yeah, in the PC version. My lament was for the Console owners missing out on that hot, potentially disease-ridden, lovin'! =P

Mcoffey:

Daystar Clarion:

Mcoffey:

Awww, that's like having a lamp with no light-bulb, or a gun with no trigger. :(

What? You can still have sex with prostitutes.

There's some in the pub in the first town I got to.

Yeah, in the PC version. My lament was for the Console owners missing out on that hot, potentially disease-ridden, lovin'! =P

I'm talking about the console version :D

Daystar Clarion:

Mcoffey:

Daystar Clarion:

What? You can still have sex with prostitutes.

There's some in the pub in the first town I got to.

Yeah, in the PC version. My lament was for the Console owners missing out on that hot, potentially disease-ridden, lovin'! =P

I'm talking about the console version :D

Joy and good tidings to all then! The whores remain in business!

Mcoffey:

Daystar Clarion:

Mcoffey:

Yeah, in the PC version. My lament was for the Console owners missing out on that hot, potentially disease-ridden, lovin'! =P

I'm talking about the console version :D

Joy and good tidings to all then! The whores remain in business!

Huzzah!

Whores for everyone!

I'll get the Blackjack.

Oh for fuck's sake...

Look, you dozy fucks, if you disagreed with Greg's reviews on The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age 2 it means nothing more than you and he have different tastes and opinions on games, which lessens the value of his reviews to you but that's it.

Did I disagree with Greg's reviews? Yep and these days I don't read most of his reviews because I've found his apparent tastes and opinions to be so different to mine that outside of the broadest parameters his reviews are of no use to me (and he's not the only person that review games for this site that fall into this category). Maybe I'm naive but I'm gonna think "wow, you've got some shitty, shitty taste in games" welllll before I think "motherfucker, EA is paying you to give that game a good review!"

Maybe it's just me.

Greg Tito:
The Witcher 2's hallmarks work just as well on the console as they did on Steam

Just want to point out that only the Steam distro version of The Witcher 2 requires Steam. Disc version is serial number authentication on install and the GOG version was DRM free.

RhombusHatesYou:

Greg Tito:
The Witcher 2's hallmarks work just as well on the console as they did on Steam

Just want to point out that only the Steam distro version of The Witcher 2 requires Steam. Disc version is serial number authentication on install and the GOG version was DRM free.

Don't forget that if you have the CD key from the box copy, CDPR is giving everyone a "digital back up" if you enter your code on their site.

Edit: I mean their site Gog.com, in case it wasn't clear for some people.

Waaghpowa:

RhombusHatesYou:

Greg Tito:
The Witcher 2's hallmarks work just as well on the console as they did on Steam

Just want to point out that only the Steam distro version of The Witcher 2 requires Steam. Disc version is serial number authentication on install and the GOG version was DRM free.

Don't forget that if you have the CD key from the box copy, CDPR is giving everyone a "digital back up" if you enter your code on their site.

Indeed they are. I didn't forget it, it just wasn't relevent to what I was saying.

Waaghpowa:

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It's really ironic that you posted this image, because I could use it for every reply you've made. Games do get pirated a whole bunch, that's not my point is that even though it was an awesome game, and it was really well liked, it still got pirated a whole bunch. Yeah that number is an estimate, but it's a very HIGH estimate.

Also, I really don't appreciate you hijacking my posts to make some sort of inane point. No, I didn't watch your video either, mostly because I don't give a shit and it had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Greg Tito:

Mcoffey:

CrossLOPER:

Seriously, there appears to be a disconnect. If ME 3 is any indicator of what DAII was like, I can understand why people would have a problem with it.

Mass Effect 3 was much, much better than Dragon Age 2. Take that any way you like.

Greg Tito:
Sex and cursing, blood and filth, The Witcher 2's hallmarks work just as well on the console as they did on Steam - even if you can't pay a whore to do your bidding like you could in the 2011 version.

They took out the whores?! I liked the whores! =O
I always liked to roleplay that Geralt ended his day of witchery with a good old fashioned romp with the nearest doxy.

I'm sure it's still in the PC version, but I can't help but feel the poor console players are missing out on a vital aspect of the game. :P

To clarify, the women are still there in the whorehouse but, as far as I can tell, you can't pay them to do anything.

Did you talk to the brothel leader? She's the one you have to speak to to actually get with any of the whores.

Susan Arendt:

cieply:

Susan Arendt:

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I never met one person that genuinely liked the game, but ok, maybe it's my friends with their tastes. What infuriates me however, is that even people that liked the game would point out numerous flaws of it. Most fans would say some of the characters were cool (even I liked varric, and I think DA2 was the worst moneygrab BW ever pulled) but they complained about the graphics, combat system, endlessly spawning enemies and EVERYONE complained about reused maps.

You simply cannot give a 10/10 to a game with that many glaring flaws. I know EA didin't pay you, I know you probably had to give it a good score to have review copies, bonuses, invites and such, this is the reality ov reviewing nowadays. But giving DA2 10/10 was totally bending over to EA and it forever stained this sites credibility. And you know it.

Oh, I know it, do I? Gosh! Also, we don't do scores out of 10. Just a minor nitpick.

We gave it the score we did because we believed it was an excellent game. We never said it was perfect - we've never said any game was perfect.

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

I guess no one comes here for the reviews anyway...

Mr Companion:
Does it fix the bug where the game crashes all the time? I don't care how tweaked it is unless I can actually play it.

If its the one where it quits to desktop without warning and with no error message, try this: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=9583842&linkID=9240697

Something to do with the game's memory cap, works for me, and everyone else I've seen with the issue.

animehermit:

Waaghpowa:

Canadish:
I wish Capcom would take some notes from these guys.

I wish just about every major developer/publisher could take notes from these guys. Everyone else seems hell bent on treating their customers like shitty thieves while simultaneously spending millions making mediocre games because of "mass market appeal".

I don't know, for all the good CD Project Red does, the PC gamers still shit all over their game by pirating it a whole bunch.

We also bought it a whole bunch. 1.1 million copies is nothing to laugh at, especially for an exclusive to a 'dying' platform.

I'd still argue that The Witcher 2 didn't "need" an Enhanced Edition, but we got one anyways, to improve on an already fantastic product.

animehermit:
Yeah that number is an estimate, but it's a very HIGH estimate.

It's also a an estimate so roughly calculated and filled with arbitrary values it's borderline 'pulled out of the arse'.

animehermit:
It's really ironic that you posted this image, because I could use it for every reply you've made. Games do get pirated a whole bunch, that's not my point is that even though it was an awesome game, and it was really well liked, it still got pirated a whole bunch. Yeah that number is an estimate, but it's a very HIGH estimate.

Also, I really don't appreciate you hijacking my posts to make some sort of inane point. No, I didn't watch your video either, mostly because I don't give a shit and it had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I missed the point?

Let's see, I said

"I wish just about every major developer/publisher could take notes from these guys. Everyone else seems hell bent on treating their customers like shitty thieves while simultaneously spending millions making mediocre games because of "mass market appeal"."

To which you replied
"I don't know, for all the good CD Project Red does, the PC gamers still shit all over their game by pirating it a whole bunch."

I would see that as missing the point, since I spent several posts stating that they understand that they can't stop piracy, so it's best not to treat your customers like thieves. Which would be nice if EVERYONE had the same mentality. Then again, maybe we're both missing each others points since your post, in hindsight, is unclear and comes off as "Well a whole lot of people stole their game despite being nice, they should just say fuck off to PC gamers and go elsewhere".

And if you had bothered to watch the video, you'd realize just how over blown the piracy claims are, which is precisely why using the 4.5 million times pirated spiel is a waste of time.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

You know, I agree that the Dragon Age II review was flawed, but this is really just being unnecessary confrontational about it.
Did you ever get a "perfect score" in school ? In college ? In a work evaluation ?
Did it mean that what you did was a beacon of perfection that shall never find equals amongst all of humanities endeavours ever ?
No, of course it didnīt.
All it meant was that your work was judged to be worthy of the highest rating within the framework of the scale.

TheAmazingHobo:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

You know, I agree that the Dragon Age II review was flawed, but this is really just being unnecessary confrontational about it.
Did you ever get a "perfect score" in school ? In college ? In a work evaluation ?
Did it mean that what you did was a beacon of perfection that shall never find equals amongst all of humanities endeavours ever ?
No, of course it didnīt.
All it meant was that your work was judged to be worthy of the highest rating within the framework of the scale.

No, I never got a perfect score, and I dont know anyone who did.

Maybe giving perfect scores to imperfect things, then denying a perfect score implies perfection is an American thing.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

TheAmazingHobo:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

You know, I agree that the Dragon Age II review was flawed, but this is really just being unnecessary confrontational about it.
Did you ever get a "perfect score" in school ? In college ? In a work evaluation ?
Did it mean that what you did was a beacon of perfection that shall never find equals amongst all of humanities endeavours ever ?
No, of course it didnīt.
All it meant was that your work was judged to be worthy of the highest rating within the framework of the scale.

No, I never got a perfect score, and I dont know anyone who did.

Maybe giving perfect scores to imperfect things, then denying a perfect score implies perfection is an American thing.

I wouldnīt know about that.
Iīm German.

And if you truly never got an "A" (or a Sehr gut, seeing how you appear to be German too) in school (you know, the grade which by your logic implies perfection, because it is the highest) nor know anyone who ever did, you are a very interesting statistical anomaly.

TheAmazingHobo:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

TheAmazingHobo:

You know, I agree that the Dragon Age II review was flawed, but this is really just being unnecessary confrontational about it.
Did you ever get a "perfect score" in school ? In college ? In a work evaluation ?
Did it mean that what you did was a beacon of perfection that shall never find equals amongst all of humanities endeavours ever ?
No, of course it didnīt.
All it meant was that your work was judged to be worthy of the highest rating within the framework of the scale.

No, I never got a perfect score, and I dont know anyone who did.

Maybe giving perfect scores to imperfect things, then denying a perfect score implies perfection is an American thing.

I wouldnīt know about that.
Iīm German.

And if you truly never got an "A" (or a Sehr gut, seeing how you appear to be German too) in school (you know, the grade which by your logic implies perfection, because it is the highest) nor know anyone who ever did, you are a very interesting statistical anomaly.

"Sehr gut" hardly equals perfection. Not even "1+" equals perfection. 100 out of 100, meaning all possible points scored, equals perfection. Thats why they write that shit down at the end of every test, instead of just giving a number between 6 and 1. And no, I never got that, and I never saw anyone get it. (100/100, not sehr gut or eins or whatever.)

Although if they screw down the difficulty of tests even further to artificially boost statistics any further, that is indeed going to become a rare thing...

But anyway, back on topic, the DA2 review was fucking puzzling to say the least, but whatever. I really should have let it rest. I couldnt hold back the comment though, my intense CDProjekt fanboyism just spilled over. So im just going to leave it alone now, think my part, all the good stuff, and never read a review on this site again.

Gosh, there's lots of arm waving going on here. Apart from the atrocious reused maps and dire setting, DA2 wasn't really that bad. I don't for one second agree with the perfect score DA2 received on here, but do we really need to keep jumping down the throats of The Escapist staff whenever possible? There are many other reviews of DA2 that slated the hell out of DA2. Try reading one of those. The Escapist is not the be all and all of games journalism. And I can't believe I'm still seeing the old "you were paid off by [insert developer ]" accusations. If they were, how on earth would even know? It seems unnecessarily rude to make such assumptions when you have zero evidence. It's almost in tin foil hat territory.

Anyway, I just thought I'd come on this thread and say I'm having a whale of the time with The Witcher 2. Didn't have the opportunity to get it on my PC as I am in need of some upgrading but the quality of the xbox port is extremely high. I am very impressed. Reading this has gotten me quite excited about what's to come. I'm also liking the quest handbook that accompanies the game. It's actually kind of cool to have something clarify the story and choices you can make. And it's written in a way as to inform without spoilers. Hats off to CD Projekct.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

"Sehr gut" hardly equals perfection. Not even "1+" equals perfection. 100 out of 100, meaning all possible points scored, equals perfection. Thats why they write that shit down at the end of every test, instead of just giving a number between 6 and 1. And no, I never got that, and I never saw anyone get it. (100/100, not sehr gut or eins or whatever.)

Although if they screw down the difficulty of tests even further to artificially boost statistics any further, that is indeed going to become a rare thing...

But anyway, back on topic, the DA2 review was fucking puzzling to say the least, but whatever. I really should have let it rest. I couldnt hold back the comment though, my intense CDProjekt fanboyism just spilled over. So im just going to leave it alone now, think my part, all the good stuff, and never read a review on this site again.

Ah screw it, I still donīt really get you (it seems to me, that you perfectly understand that a "Sehr gut", the highest rating amongst 6 possible ratings doesnīt imply perfection and that 100/100 kind of does. Yet you argue that the escapist giving the highest rating amongst 5 possible ratings equals perfection.), but that topic is so fucking dead itīs not even a valid target for "Create undead" anymore.

And yeah, CDProjekt is awesome and cares way more about itīs actual paying customers than Bioware does.
This entire "Enhanced Edition"-thing should be more than enough prove, if there was any doubt to start with.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Susan Arendt:

cieply:

I never met one person that genuinely liked the game, but ok, maybe it's my friends with their tastes. What infuriates me however, is that even people that liked the game would point out numerous flaws of it. Most fans would say some of the characters were cool (even I liked varric, and I think DA2 was the worst moneygrab BW ever pulled) but they complained about the graphics, combat system, endlessly spawning enemies and EVERYONE complained about reused maps.

You simply cannot give a 10/10 to a game with that many glaring flaws. I know EA didin't pay you, I know you probably had to give it a good score to have review copies, bonuses, invites and such, this is the reality ov reviewing nowadays. But giving DA2 10/10 was totally bending over to EA and it forever stained this sites credibility. And you know it.

Oh, I know it, do I? Gosh! Also, we don't do scores out of 10. Just a minor nitpick.

We gave it the score we did because we believed it was an excellent game. We never said it was perfect - we've never said any game was perfect.

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

I guess no one comes here for the reviews anyway...

Flawed thinking. If a 5 means perfection, we'd literally never use it, which would therefore make 4.5 the top score a game could actually get (or 4 at the time the DA2 review was written). At which point then 4.5 implies "the best a game can get", and so on. If you're never going to use the top of your scale, then your scale is inherently broken. Of course, that's part of the problem with scores to begin with.

Waaghpowa:

This video is humorously awesome. Thanks for the link.

Ticonderoga117:

Waaghpowa:

This video is humorously awesome. Thanks for the link.

And informative!

Pretty much explained my feelings towards the EE. The thing I loved most about playing on the Xbox was the combat just felt so much more satisfying. Although I think it's moronic to think someone might accidentally miss the chronological order of the prologue.

I'm really looking forward to playing TW2 on my PC again though, once I get it upgraded.

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I'm certainly not, and I thought DA2 was a great game.

Now can we stop discussing DA2 on this thread, it's pointless!

The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

I agree, unfortunately. I have not logged in to this site for a LONG time, but when TW2 comes up here......I get Pi$$ed!

At the time of Tito's review, I was shocked, that he had not seen the quality I'd seen, I disagreed with him. I wanted to know who this guy was, and how on earth he had the stones to "MEH" at such a bad-ass game. All I found to his credit (aside from his writing stuff) was an embarrassed You tube stand up video, so I shrugged off.

Then Sterling(Jim)was also non-plussed too. It seems as though he wanted more of 'Nintendo-ized' Witcher. I wondered to myself, "Why on earth did these guys I like to read not react to the stuff I LOVED about the game?"

Then I realized......"Oh these guys are WRONG. Thats why."

I don't care enough to get into the (said in crybaby voice)"AWRT is subjective, I like what I like. Everything is taste and Unique." WRONG!!!!!!

Picasso is a better painter than Thomas Kinkade (RIP). If you disagree with this, then you have sh*tty taste in art, and btw are WRONG.

Tito's Witcher 2 review was bad, I give it 1.5 out of 5 stars. His objectivity as a reviewer, I will not get into. I dont care if he got the vapors from DAII (obviously) and gave it a post-coital high review. He was wrong and so is his review.

I cant take this site as seriously because of this. If this is what the site offers as their opinion of certain games, I do not want to waste my time with more reviews or lame features, people are reportedly not getting paid for (sorry that 1 was old and off topic). And I voiced my opinion by NOT VISITING THE SITE......until now that is.....the White Wolf FTW!!!!!!!!

Susan Arendt:

So you're saying that someone who likes DA2 is a freak? Sorry, but that's just bullshit. As is the idea that you're a freak for liking FF13.

That was a joke.

Susan Arendt:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Susan Arendt:

Oh, I know it, do I? Gosh! Also, we don't do scores out of 10. Just a minor nitpick.

We gave it the score we did because we believed it was an excellent game. We never said it was perfect - we've never said any game was perfect.

Actually, you did. A perfect score kind of implies the game is perfect. Thats why its a perfect score.

I guess no one comes here for the reviews anyway...

Flawed thinking. If a 5 means perfection, we'd literally never use it, which would therefore make 4.5 the top score a game could actually get (or 4 at the time the DA2 review was written). At which point then 4.5 implies "the best a game can get", and so on. If you're never going to use the top of your scale, then your scale is inherently broken. Of course, that's part of the problem with scores to begin with.

I finally understand it man, I understand the conspiracy! EA controls everything, they control the escapist and they control me! I thought I liked DA2 and ME3(even the endings) but it turns out EA crept into my room while I slept and planted a chip in my brain that makes me agree with all the wrong ideas. DRM, on disc dlc and good scores for DA2 its all part of their plan, quick put on your tinfoil hat it's the only way to stop them!

LOL, sorry couldn't resist. All joking aside I enjoyed DA2, I've been a fan of this site for awhile now and I've never thought that anyone was paid off. In my mind a 5/5 or 10/10 just means a really good game, it doesn't mean a perfect game because there is no such thing. That is until there is some Game of Thrones/Assassins creed crossover type game where I can kill Joffrey over and over again... God I hate that poisonous little wretch. Rant over.

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

Don't I wish. It would pay for all the DLC in other games.

I don't know about 5/5 but it was an enjoyable game.

As for The Witcher 2, I am glad they did this. Action RPGs like this just feel natural on a console with a controller rather than a keyboard and mouse and this is a perfect example of how to do it.

Heh, all this talk about review scores seems to indicate that the Escapist should've stuck to its guns back when they DIDN'T have review scores. All they seem to do is try to present one reporter's opinion on a subjective topic as an objective assessment, which inevitably leads to the arguments appearing in this thread.

I suppose if you're really trying to give everyone an idea whether they'll like the game, you could evaluate the game in terms of different areas like tactics, story, strategy, action, etc. The catch would be that it would take a rare individual to evaluate all those areas fairly (though I suppose you could have more than one reviewer). Furthermore, each of those categories contains different things that satisfy different people - Story for instance could be divided into internal consistency, plot thread resolution, player agency, and a whole bunch of other things that different people value differently - so a full review would have to keep track of a lot of areas. It would be interesting to see this in practice, though I'm not sure it would be viable as a general approach.

What, no PS3 port? That's a damn shame, i actually wanted to play this.

My only problem is the poorly done stealth mechanics, but other than that I'm loving the game so far.

Also, now forcing prostitutes to do your bidding? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I kid, I kid, but seriously, if Dragon Age could do that (and seem much less mature) and get away with it, why can't the Witcher 2?

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