BioWare Adding Female Shepard to Mass Effect 3 Marketing

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Icehearted:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Icehearted:

Firstly, that seemed a bit uncalled for here.

Given Dragon Age 2's boobs of doom...

Never played DA2.... that bad huh? I get ya. I think in this case it's unlikely, since Asari are the galaxy's tarts, but still.

Take a look for yourself:
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Never heard her called "FemShep" before. I perfer the much better "She-Pard".

Mass Effect is the best when you play through as total bitch She-Pard.

Zhukov:
Cool. It's nice to see a bit of two-way recognition.

Now, I'm gonna bail before this thread gets nasty.

But before I do, I'll just leave this here:

(Huge spoilers within.)

Wow Femshep really stands out as the better VA when it comes to range, especially on the renegade choices. My shepard kind of looks like the one on the video, same hair but prettier face. I cant stand male Shepard or playing as male characters period so I'm glad they are putting Femshep on the cover.

I will give him this...his voice fits a by the book military man well, but I dont play a by the book character. I play a bad ass renegade woman who saved the galaxy twice and is going back for thirds.

Neferius:

Logan Westbrook:
(snip) - something the studio has shied away from before with the Mass Effect games - (snip)

Source: GamePro

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Well... what about our good Dr. T'Soni?
In the very first game Liara could be romanced by a female Cmd. Shepard.
...perhaps because she is an Alien she does not count? Or were you referring strictly to male homosexuality O.o? ...in which case I would see why the game's writers would have a hard time plotting all the *ehm* details.

Well, to be pedantic, Liara is from a single gender species, meaning that she isn't strictly female. That's splitting hairs though.

That is pretty much the only non-heterosexual relationship in the game. There have been a few small exceptions to this, but only ever for FemShep. For male Commander Shepards, it's been women or nothing.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Icehearted:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Given Dragon Age 2's boobs of doom...

Never played DA2.... that bad huh? I get ya. I think in this case it's unlikely, since Asari are the galaxy's tarts, but still.

Take a look for yourself:
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If that's a screen from the very beginning of the game, then the large titties are deliberate exaggerations by Varric aren't they?

During Varric's bullshitting:
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After he's told to tell the story properly:
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Isabela was designed to be the 'super sexy' archetype, nothing wrong with that. Merrill is nothing I would call busty, and Aveline, well, that lass may have a fair sized chest, but she's an Amazon of a woman, and mean that as a compliment. Donnic you lucky bastard.

Wooh. Go womyn representation, I guess.

Wonderful! I quite enjoy playing as FemShep. She is far superior to MaleShep, in my opinion.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Icehearted:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Given Dragon Age 2's boobs of doom...

Never played DA2.... that bad huh? I get ya. I think in this case it's unlikely, since Asari are the galaxy's tarts, but still.

Take a look for yourself:
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Well, I don't recall seeing that featured in advertising, but I'm hardly goig to complain about buxom women in or outside of a video game. For Shep that still seems far-fetched. Femshep/Maleshep strike me as being more like hardened soldiers than sex objects.

Actually, they didn't really broadcast Benezia or Samara and their ample bosom (and now that I think about it this fits my Asari tart comment too). Sex does sell, and everybody loves boobs.... except for a lot of contemporary non-Japanese game developers apparently, though your example sort of invalidates that theory too.

Logan Westbrook:

Neferius:

Logan Westbrook:
(snip) - something the studio has shied away from before with the Mass Effect games - (snip)

Source: GamePro

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Well... what about our good Dr. T'Soni?
In the very first game Liara could be romanced by a female Cmd. Shepard.
...perhaps because she is an Alien she does not count? Or were you referring strictly to male homosexuality O.o? ...in which case I would see why the game's writers would have a hard time plotting all the *ehm* details.

Well, to be pedantic, Liara is from a single gender species, meaning that she isn't strictly female. That's splitting hairs though.

That is pretty much the only non-heterosexual relationship in the game. There have been a few small exceptions to this, but only ever for FemShep. For male Commander Shepards, it's been women or nothing.

Confirmed for "never going to happen" according to a piece on the gaygamer blog, but this was before the EA aquisition, so I guess EA is either more progressive or heavy-handed about the subject.

I also recall more than once Liara saying she's "technically not female".

Mass Effect has a canon now? When the hell did that happen?

I mean, I can see why KotOR has to have a canonical ending, but Mass Effect is a stand alone universe. The books are vague enough to fit any events in the games (at least from what I've heard).

Good on ya guys. This makes me very happy.

Logan Westbrook:
Well, to be pedantic, Liara is from a single gender species, meaning that she isn't strictly female. That's splitting hairs though.

The Asari are a monogendered species, much like the New Mexico Whiptail. They have one gender (sex), and it is female.

Something Liara isn't, though, is a woman. A woman is a human female.

Logan Westbrook:
The female Shepard might not be canonical

Canonically, Commander Shepard is male

BioWare hasn't decided what the canonical appearance - if you can have such a thing for a non-canon character - for the female Shepard will be

Where do people keep getting the idea that maleshep is canon? There is no canon Shepard, only the default Shep they use on the box art (which understandably ticked off the people for whom the box art didn't match their own personal idea of the Commander). Even in the Mass Effect comic they released they avoided giving Shep a sex by saying that the Commander's body had been burned beyond being recognizably male or female, and they avoided referring to Shepard as a "he" or "she".

Just because the default player character is a white male does not make it canon. Commander Shepard is a blank slate in terms of gender, race, sexuality[1], and moral orientation.

[1] Within the confines of the game's heterosexual-leaning romance options, of course.

About fuckin time.

I always played as female Shepard for some weird reason. Long story short, I reckon she is way better voiced.

I'd argue that with all the branching paths in the game there's really no such thing as Commander Shepard canon, but this story does give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Fans found an unexpected source of great joy in the Mass Effect games, and Bioware have listened and are once again keeping the fans happy.

um... my shep had always been a female...never knew default would turn out to be "canon"... I know not anything about the third one switch sex for ad campaign is going to be call swapping canon... but I have only played the first game... never dare try the second, for it's too long... and after "sleep-age: origin", I can't put my self up for another mid night ride of long dialog lectures of "so and so's life story...", no offense, LOVE the story,(REALLY) but can't keep my head up at night, that's all... can only stay with action titles for now... but it seems that 3 is going action frenzy, so... who knew... perhaps after WarHammer40K space marine this summer... I'll give 2 a try, maybe after my third run of fallout 3 (the bad ass run) I need to try Mass 2 somehow... to ready 3 I think...does it make THAT much different? if i have pre saved games? perks? level advantages? or just the "shaped world"?

"It may have taken three games to do it, but BioWare is finally featuring the female Shepard in Mass Effect marketing. Canonically, Commander Shepard is male, but BioWare has acknowledged that the female version - often referred to as "FemShep" - has plenty of fans too, and will feature her in a new trailer."

Eh, excuse me but neither is canonical. A game about choices and character creation has no canon. To even say there is a canon is to make the whole point of the game moot.

JediMB:

Logan Westbrook:
Well, to be pedantic, Liara is from a single gender species, meaning that she isn't strictly female. That's splitting hairs though.

The Asari are a monogendered species, much like the New Mexico Whiptail. They have one gender (sex), and it is female.

Something Liara isn't, though, is a woman. A woman is a human female.

Thank you finally for other people remembering this.

Anyways, how is it that the series has a set canon for Commander Shepard when in the games the commander is in fact not a set character? They are who you make them to be, regardless of what their sex is.

EDIT: Wow, like 5 people in a row just said the exact same thing about female Shepard. Awesome!

Kahunaburger:
There's a male Shepard too? Huh, who knew?

lol, I know, right? Jennifer Hale ftw

only 1/5 use femshep? i'm surprised. i thought her VA was more popular, so i thought she would have been too. guess not.

always play as a female. but i do have a male shep who i tried to look like my self and make decisions how i would make them.
then i got my bad femshep. who i tried to make her look like rayne from the bloodrayne games.
weird it took bioware to create a femshp trailer but well. its about time.

you know what would work? if the cover had sideview of both genders standing back to back.

Personally, I have never seen what makes people think Hale's performance is better than Meer's. While Hale certainly has the better credentials for the job, she never really sold me on her performance in any respect. I honestly cannot complete a female Shepard playthrough because I find the performance so very grating.

MasochisticMuse:

Where do people keep getting the idea that maleshep is canon? There is no canon Shepard, only the default Shep they use on the box art (which understandably ticked off the people for whom the box art didn't match their own personal idea of the Commander).

How is any such rage (if it indeed exists) even remotely justified? There are untold thousands (if not millions) of possible Shepard appearances. Unless Bioware let fans order a custom printed box (at a hefty fee) how would you actually expect them to produce a cover that happened to have your interpretation of the character plastered on the cover?

Zhukov:
Cool. It's nice to see a bit of two-way recognition.

Now, I'm gonna bail before this thread gets nasty.

But before I do, I'll just leave this here:

(Huge spoilers within.)

You know, I had a thought: This video is of a playthrough of the game on the PC, right? Well, I have it for the 360. In this video, FemShep sounds a hell of a lot better than I remember her. When I played as her, Hale sounded as though she felt that this role was the most boring thing she had ever done in her life.

Do you think it's possible that they held different recording sessions for the Xbox and PC versions of the game? Because given the large PC gamer population of this site, it would explain why most people here prefer FemShep, while I couldn't bear to listen to her.

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Eclectic Dreck:
Personally, I have never seen what makes people think Hale's performance is better than Meer's. While Hale certainly has the better credentials for the job, she never really sold me on her performance in any respect. I honestly cannot complete a female Shepard playthrough because I find the performance so very grating.

mjc0961:
Oh good. Now we get a trailer ruined by FemShep's monotone robot voice. Beep boop.

This seems like more evidence for my theory. I checked out both of your profiles, and you both play the 360, and dislike FemShep's voice.

There has to be something to this. Does anyone know how to find out? It would explain so much. Maybe when they recorded for the 360, Hale had a cold or something. It would certainly clear up some confusion, as she has a reputation for being an amazing voice actress, but sounds horrible in my limited experience.

Dr Snakeman:
Do you think it's possible that they held different recording sessions for the Xbox and PC versions of the game? Because given the large PC gamer population of this site, it would explain why most people here prefer FemShep, while I couldn't bear to listen to her.

It seems unlikely.

I just don't see any reason for it. Why re-record a crap ton of dialogue when you already have all the audio good to go?

Worgen:
the advertising for mass effect always bugged me, they loved to stick the most boring looking version of shepard in the ads and it was annoying how they only used the maleshep since femshep had a much better voice actor, in my opinion

I agree. On a side note, why can't I alter sheps default appearance? I honestly have tried to do a manshep run on both but he either looks like a dick (default) or just fucking ugly (every other manshep made). All I want to do is give him some hair so he doesn't look like a pornstar....

mjc0961:
Oh good. Now we get a trailer ruined by FemShep's monotone robot voice. Beep boop.

are you serious? You are wrong, and I don't mean that as a matter of opinion. Put both voices in an oscilloscope. You'll see....

Hristo Tzonkov:

Btw anyone get the feeling the choice system of Bioware is actually exceptionally silly and shallow after playing The Witcher?Anyone?I mean I always favoured Bioware for it's choices but it doesn't have the same drastic change as one would expect.I really hope ME3 changes that.

Oh yes, very much so. Although I felt choice and consequences in TW2 was simplified a bit over the first game. Both are definitely big improvements over Bioware's decision mechanics, though.

They better fix the female hair... it always makes them look like Mrs. Potato heads...<.<

The_root_of_all_evil:
Bets on her cup size being at least an E, and generally fulfilling the 36-24-36 image?

XD Nice

So, wait, Bioware is going to market FemShep too? You mean, the marketing department is going to finally do what it should've done FROM THE FIRST GAME?
Congrats on catching up with the theme of your games ("you choose", with male or female being one of the first choices) so very late into the series.

*clap*
*clap*
...Huh? Oh, I think I left my baked GLaDOS-tato on...

lithium.jelly:

Hristo Tzonkov:

Btw anyone get the feeling the choice system of Bioware is actually exceptionally silly and shallow after playing The Witcher?Anyone?I mean I always favoured Bioware for it's choices but it doesn't have the same drastic change as one would expect.I really hope ME3 changes that.

Oh yes, very much so. Although I felt choice and consequences in TW2 was simplified a bit over the first game. Both are definitely big improvements over Bioware's decision mechanics, though.

The first one didn't have much an impact on the gameplay.But you still felt you were doing wrong choices.Infact I finished the game and felt "What did I do wrong?I thought I was fighting for ideals".Why did everyone just die...

Makes me want to photoshop her onto the cover of the next game...if I wasn't getting that metal tin I would anyway.

Female Shepard is noncanon?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

Im not interested really, since femshep is too cliche "kickass chick" for my tastes, she looks boring, and Mark Meer just does an all round better performance. Hales performance, though she is a fantastic voice actress for other characters, just sounds emotionless and a fake attempt at sounding tough when she does Shepard.

(Most of that is opinion, but since femshep fans love to insecurely spout opinion as fact, I thought what the hell, I would give it a try too.)

Thank holy Christ! I played the demo for Mass Effect 2 twice (because I'm a PS3 bastard), once with Male Shep and once with Female Shep. And Jennifer Hale just blew Mark Meer out of the galaxy. Meer sounded more like he was reading the phone book to himself in a library when he was under fire in combat. Hale sounded like a gorram space marine. I wish no offence against Meer (the guy's pretty damn good elsewhere) but it's Hale for me every time. And that is not just my favouritism for Hale kicking in either (seriously, she's been involved in loads of my favourite cartoons as a kid. e.g. She was Numbah 86 in Codename: Kids Next Door!)

DustyDrB:
Actually, the marketing Shepard isn't even canon...
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So why do they insist on going with the most generic grizzled space marine they could come up with? It just makes the game look generic. Especially to Joe Average who has never heard of Mass Effect.

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MelasZepheos:
FemShep is canon. All others are non-believers.

You're damn skippy!

My Shepard looks like a cross between Stana Katic and Lara Croft, so obviously she's the best looking, and the perfect choice for the boxart.

Remove the Lara Croft section and you already have the perfect choice for the box art! One of the top 3 reasons I watch Castle; along with Nathan Fillion and just the show generally being awesome.

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