Not Wanting a Girlfriend is a "Serious Illness"

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Well I guess the Beastie Boys can be let off because they have...*puts on sunglasses* a license to ill. YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHH!

Well I believe that the actual reason is that with few and very competitive job opportunities, many you adults put off marriage and children in favor of devoting full time to their careers but that is pretty funny that this kind of public education exists.

I got some bad déjà vu vibes reading through this article and thread.

Bad vibes man.

TheDoctor455:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Does that mean bigamists are really healthy?

And, god forbid I bring this into it, but are girls to have any say in this?

And... what about homosexual men?

Homosexual women?

Asexuals?

Short of it: I really hope that this researcher isn't indicative of Japan's scientific community; otherwise, they'll have to get over their bigotry before they can be taken seriously.

Considering homosexuals/asexuals aren't going to be helping Japan's birth problem...I can see why they wouldn't be considered in the discussion, even ignoring Japan's "unique" culture.

I'm more interested in why this guy (among others) isn't pointing any fingers to the (straight) females in Japan who are just as averse to sex as the (straight) males are...

http://jezebel.com/5733635/japanese-government-worries-teens-arent-horny-enough

Sorry, I only got as far as the title but I'm sooooo going to quote that out of context.

hehehe all strait women are ill. hehehehehe

*One article reading later*

Wait...wasn't Catherine about this exact same thing?

Japanese men who don't want to have kids get killed in their sleep by giant hungry butt monsters?
They even refereed to it as "the wasting illness" in the game.

This is probably the first instance of a videogame being poignant and topical and actually beating the news articles to the punch.

Well done Catherine, well done

Way to simplify a vastly complicated issue of why men in your country don't want relationships.
It can't be anything to do with the notorious highly competitive environment you put your citizens in to get into Universities and high paying jobs, working impossibly long hours in the process.

It can't be that your society puts a strong emphasis on getting these relationships even if your not happy in them and having to somehow find the time to juggle them between studying, working and attending after school sessions to study some more can it?

No instead of all that its because people are shut ins and obsessed with things they enjoy.
Is this the same group that claimed a strong female in manga was causing males to turn homosexual? If so I now understand how anyone could be so god-damn stupid

Westaway:
-this research in brought to you in part by, GIRLS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED OUT-

I laughed at that one.

Anyway...News flash, Mr. Researcher: Correlation does not equal causation!!!! This mistake drives me absolutely up the walls.

Grey Carter:
If the current trend continues, by 2050 Japan's population will have shrunk 20%, and the elderly will make up 50% of those that remain, presumably leading to some kind of nightmarish, apocalyptic future where gangs of octogenarians stalk the streets of Tokyo on their mobility scooters, hunting teenagers with nets and tridents.

I would play the shit out of this game.

Everyone who's saying that the low birthrate is a good thing because Japan is overpopulated doesn't understand what the exact problem is.

As was mentioned in the article, Japan may have a lot of people but the low birthrate means that the population is getting older. This is a problem for them because when they become so old that they can't work anymore and need to retire, essentially becoming unproductive resource hogs, there won't be enough young people around to support all of them. (And, naturally, professors like the one in the article tend to be getting up there in age themselves, so this would probably be something that concerns them.)

Something similar is happening in Germany, and possibly in other places as well but I haven't heard about it yet.

This silly solution probably won't work since it's more likely that the young people in question have made a decision to not have children, rather than just being socially awkward shut-ins. The only solutions I can think of that wouldn't contribute to overcrowding are encouraging adoption from other countries, somehow outsourcing foreigners to do Japanese jobs, or...euthanasia. Which would be a difficult option for people to embrace, for obvious reasons.

drisky:
[quote="scorptatious" post="7.351755.13928355"]Part of me really wants to agree with this piece, but I can't help but feel there's another reason for Japan's low birth rates. INTERNET RESEARCH HO!

And I just realized I have the perfect video for this situation:

(Couldn't find the actual clip)

You win an internet.

And the article just kind of ignores people who want a relationship but are just....bad at it. What of them Japan? Hmmmm?

Hm... men, we need to help Japan in this.

We'll need to send a small army of verile men over there and have them score 'round the clock. I'll do my part, but I need good men to do theirs as well. Who's with me?!

Firstly: Not having kids doesn't necessarily = not getting any.

Secondly: Could possibly also have something to do with most married woman not working being a social norm.
while it's a fine thing to do when a single persons income can happily cover the costs of a full family, it's not so tempting when it doesn't cover said costs.
In which case many married men have to work redikky hours to fund their marriage situation.

Does this mean being single is covered by my insurance?

Irridium:
Hm... men, we need to help Japan in this.

We'll need to send a small army of verile men over there and have them score 'round the clock. I'll do my part, but I need good men to do theirs as well. Who's with me?!

Honestly, half of me reads that in Zap's voice but at the same time, in the tone of Archer... and dear god either one just makes me laugh my ass off, you earned yourself a cookie Irridium.

OT: Well they better think of something before the numbers get too low or something. Though as a dateless loser myself I have no idea what they could to try and get people to start having babies sans of a Cylon attack(Watch BSG to get what I mean).

Boyninja616:
I don't have a girlfriend, but that's no big deal.

According to the Japanese, i'm ill.

According to American teenagers, i'm a nerd.

According to my friends, i'm a weird, shut-in w**ker.

Oh well. At least I have disposable income, a car, a property and free time.

Unlike many people of my age, I grew up. I understand that one needs to be a realist and needs to work towards building a stable and independent life, which dating would quite frankly ruin. I don't understand why girls feel the need to go out with some arse just "Because" and guys feel the need to wear Polo or Checkered shirts and stick their hair in spikes to attract females. It's stupid and fatuous.

I hate to break it to you, but that is not how you pick up girls.
And most girls don't go out with an, as you put it, "arse" just for the lulz.

Cheer up a little.
Why so serious?

Well, not to be rude or anything, but isn't Japan one of the most populated places ever? A decline in their population isn't exactly gonna hurt anyone. It just means Japan will be more...roomier.

And I doubt it's like every single male in Japan has decided not to date ever. Most Japanese guys are indeed nerdy and secluded. They're just shy. Like, extremely shy (I don't know if girls are hard to get there too...?). Either way, I don't see this as a problem. I don't think Japanese people will become an extinct race because of this. Come on.

Boyninja616:
I don't have a girlfriend, but that's no big deal.

According to the Japanese, i'm ill.

According to American teenagers, i'm a nerd.

According to my friends, i'm a weird, shut-in w**ker.

Oh well. At least I have disposable income, a car, a property and free time.

Unlike many people of my age, I grew up. I understand that one needs to be a realist and needs to work towards building a stable and independent life, which dating would quite frankly ruin. I don't understand why girls feel the need to go out with some arse just "Because" and guys feel the need to wear Polo or Checkered shirts and stick their hair in spikes to attract females. It's stupid and fatuous.

Thank you, good sir. You have summarized the rest of my thoughts more accurately than I could ever try.

I have recently started to hate most people my age because of this. All guys wear polo shirts and spike their hair. If they're kinda buff (Which they usually are), then it's a requirement to wear a tight shirt. If not, then they must either wear skinny, and painful looking, jeans or jeans that show half of their ass. And they must walk in a certain way in order to be accepted by their bros.
Oh, and sports are the best thing ever since sex. Or the other way around.

It's really sickening to think people who don't fit that description are considered the loser outcasts.

I don't need a girlfriend. Women are trouble, and one of my ex's nearly killed me. Now I'm gynophobic, and have a lot of free time on my hands.

Okay Grey... where does an article exist that says: Not Wanting a Girlfriend is a "Serious Illness"?

You mean to say that the piece some otaku guy wrote, makes it a fact you need to try to report on?

Or is about people who don't have the ability to erase the gap between one's dreams and one's reality, is a serious illness. Cause you are NOT getting that point across at all.

Are we being Fox News'd here?

Yep. It's a Tito Young (add Carter to the list) piece.... (not saying that they are bad people)

sigh

I mean seriously, read some the reply's here, where do you think their reasoning/information is coming from? What is the cause of these negative thoughts? Is this what being a responsible journalist entails now-a-days?

This intentional negative thought experiment is not good for human being.

If enlarged bank account persists for more than 4 hours, send it to me.

Orange12345:
i just had a brilliant idea, I am going to start a new company where men can pay women for all the relationship needs: keeping company, a +1 for social events, and of course sex. Don't try to rip me off I'm going to patent this right away

In regards to the article: LOL WUT

that is my kind of world. simplicity

Japan never ceases to amaze me with the constant stream of crazy shenanigans that make up a majority of their export.

Beautiful End:
Well, not to be rude or anything, but isn't Japan one of the most populated places ever? A decline in their population isn't exactly gonna hurt anyone. It just means Japan will be more...roomier.

And I doubt it's like every single male in Japan has decided not to date ever. Most Japanese guys are indeed nerdy and secluded. They're just shy. Like, extremely shy (I don't know if girls are hard to get there too...?). Either way, I don't see this as a problem. I don't think Japanese people will become an extinct race because of this. Come on.

Boyninja616:
I don't have a girlfriend, but that's no big deal.

According to the Japanese, i'm ill.

According to American teenagers, i'm a nerd.

According to my friends, i'm a weird, shut-in w**ker.

Oh well. At least I have disposable income, a car, a property and free time.

Unlike many people of my age, I grew up. I understand that one needs to be a realist and needs to work towards building a stable and independent life, which dating would quite frankly ruin. I don't understand why girls feel the need to go out with some arse just "Because" and guys feel the need to wear Polo or Checkered shirts and stick their hair in spikes to attract females. It's stupid and fatuous.

Thank you, good sir. You have summarized the rest of my thoughts more accurately than I could ever try.

I have recently started to hate most people my age because of this. All guys wear polo shirts and spike their hair. If they're kinda buff (Which they usually are), then it's a requirement to wear a tight shirt. If not, then they must either wear skinny, and painful looking, jeans or jeans that show half of their ass. And they must walk in a certain way in order to be accepted by their bros.
Oh, and sports are the best thing ever since sex. Or the other way around.

It's really sickening to think people who don't fit that description are considered the loser outcasts.

my poeple have spoken

Don't worry Japan... I'll be on my way...

Japan....you're doing it wrong...All you need is Love guys.

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1) Japanese women often don't feel appriciated by the men. High risk of rape (despite death penalty for rape) plus descrimination etc.
2) Japanese women often feel that that men are inadequate in the wong department.
3) Japanese are usually not too fond of the Chinese, so importing Chinese babies will pose certain issues.

Solving their people shortage problem won't be easy.

Give me some tiiiiiiime. I want to land on my feet first (and as a University flunkie, I don't need a dating life to make that even harder). And I don't want to even bother early on, as I notice that girls tend to gravitate to guys that I try my hardest to NOT be like while in their late teens/early twenties.

So yeah. Let me finish my two-year tech diploma, get a job, start a pension, get a house, maybe get a dog, and generally settle into my everyday career life and turn twenty five before I go searching for a girl to share it with.

"If you don't want a girlfriend, you're ill." (slightly paraphrased)

I am a 23 year old college student living at his parents house until graduation. I'm not in good shape, I barely make enough to pay off my bills, and I have enough friends to spend time with. I have no time for a relationship nor do I seriously think there is a girl out there who would want to be with me right now.

And I'm ill with that train of logic?

Color me ill. What pills can I take to relieve this illness, doctor?

Oh, there are no pills? You can't take medicine or antibiotics to help alleviate the illness?

THEN IT ISN'T AN ILLNESS.

Uhm, no.

Blame a culture generated by failed previous attempts to raise the birth rate, namely insane condom taxes, long-standing illegality of the pill and other contraception. Now throw in the porn industry's STD campaign to promote and normalise the single otaku lifestyle. Yes, you're reading that correctly: The first anti-ATD campaign in Japan's history was produced by Soft on Demand, latching on to an insane STD infection rate caused by the aforementioned government-induced problems. And the solution they proposed was porn over women.

Finally blame Koizumi's government reforms which essentially privatised the public sector in a time of national economic crisis, essentially locking youth and women out of proper employment. Whilst infidelity is practically the national sport, relationships themselves are still rather conservative and there's pressure for them to lead directly to marriage in Japan. Furthermore, families put pressure on newlyweds to have kids as soon as possible. The sad reality is that the majority of the youth cannot afford this end result.

How anyone can claim the nation's present predicament is "strange" or "unexpected" is beyond me. Blame the post-war baby boomer generation basically for their greed in the mid-90s.

Society is ill, the youth are just symptoms.

Boris Goodenough:
1) Japanese women often don't feel appriciated by the men. High risk of rape (despite death penalty for rape) plus descrimination etc.
2) Japanese women often feel that that men are inadequate in the wong department.
3) Japanese are usually not too fond of the Chinese, so importing Chinese babies will pose certain issues.

Solving their people shortage problem won't be easy.

huh?

1. I thourght japan or like some japanise citys were suposed ot be some of the safest ever, even walking around at night

2. oh come one..where are you getting THAT evidence?

Easton Dark:

TheDoctor455:

Homosexual women?

They're healthy. They want girlfriends.

Hahaha

I bet I should feel bad for laughing somehow...oh well xD

Imp Emissary:

draythefingerless:
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>japan low on people
>import chinese baby
>????

Well damn. China will be making everything for us now won't they!?

I laughed way harder at this than I should have, especially considering I'm part Chinese.

Vault101:
do I get a free pass for being female?

No! You`re the worst of them all! Just.. Just bacause :P

RonHiler:
Given that the population of the planet just hit 7 billion, and we can't sustain that many people, I can't help but wonder why this isn't considered a good thing. Maybe we should distribute games, anime, and manga to everyone and perhaps we could drop the entire planet population by 20% by 2050.

Fairly logical, but no comfort to Japan. While Japan's diminishing population might have a (tiny) positive effect on global overpopulation, it's far more likely to damage Japan's own economy. The problem isn't really that of a reduced population, but an ageing one. An ageing population has serious consequences for a country's balance book due to the higher number of dependants and the reduced workforce.

Well... I don't want a girlfriend. I wouldn't mind having sex of course but the whole girlfriend thing seems to end up badly 90% of the time. I don't really think its worth it.

EmperorSubcutaneous:
Everyone who's saying that the low birthrate is a good thing because Japan is overpopulated doesn't understand what the exact problem is.

As was mentioned in the article, Japan may have a lot of people but the low birthrate means that the population is getting older. This is a problem for them because when they become so old that they can't work anymore and need to retire, essentially becoming unproductive resource hogs, there won't be enough young people around to support all of them. (And, naturally, professors like the one in the article tend to be getting up there in age themselves, so this would probably be something that concerns them.)

Quoted for truth. My country is in a similar problem, just on a smaller scale. Looking forward to rising taxes in the next 10 years.

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