More Unskippable Piracy Warnings for DVDs

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More Unskippable Piracy Warnings for DVDs

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The new copyright notices are there to "warn," "educate" and presumably irritate.

As part of the ongoing plan to stop piracy by annoying legitimate consumers, the US government announced two new copyright notices to be added to DVDs and Blu-Ray movies. Six major movie studios intend to start using the notices - which are ten-seconds long and unskippable - this week.

The first notice features the FBI and Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations logos, as well as the traditional "Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine of $250,000," message. The second notice shows the logo for the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, complete with a grumpy-looking eagle, a warning that piracy is "not a victimless crime," and directions to the IPR site, which promises to explain how piracy is affecting the US economy.

The fact that only legitimate customers will be subjected to these notices (presumably we're the victims mentioned in the first notice) is actually part of ICE's strategy. The notices are apparently meant to educate the general public, who upon seeing them will naturally take up arms and drive the pirates into the ocean from whence they came.  "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort," announced ICE director, John Morton.

Source: Ars Technica

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My business sense is a-tingling. I'll be sure to stock up on the pitchforks to supply the inevitable pirate hunts that will follow in the wake of this truly stunning and groundbreaking offensive.

Oh Good, this gives me more time to grab a beer and some popcorn before I start my movie. Thanks US Government, you never cease to help.

hmm, this only gives people another reason to pirate movies...... to not see this BS.

Good idea, the three warnings we get at the moment never really managed to convince me... but this one will surely do the job...

Clearly this will solve piracy. However could I have not realized that the way to combat piracy is to do the very thing that can help breed piracy. Luckily we had the US goverment to ignore evidence and logic as they are so good at doing.

As with every topic that comes up about these unskippable things, I feel obliged to post this image.

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Anyway, do they not realise that people are annoyed by these and all these anti-piracy ads they have to wade through are more likely to make them pirate?

The last DVD I bought was How I Met Your Mother seasons 3 and 4.
The warning before the movie made me crack up.
"Jim bought a DVD from a store and enjoys great quality"
"Johny bought a pirated DVD off the street and does not"
My thought "Jonas bought a DVD from Amazon and has to sit through a sequence telling him that he's a criminal scum for pirating DVDs"
"Sam downloaded a DVD using peer to peer software and doesn't have to".

I find it disturbing that with both movies, TV shows and games the ones that pay for it are the ones who have to suffer a company's way of preventing piracy.

Meh, BBC does DVDs with over 2 minutes of unskippable crap...

Maybe if piracy wasn't so prevalent this wouldn't happen (wasn't Alan Wake pirated so much, the game was a commercial failure) and I thought the Witcher 2 was pirated 4 million times and the game itself sold 1 million (correct me if I'm wrong)

Yeah the piracy warnings suck, but it's only because they want to make money for what they worked on. Also relevant image

Funnily enough, I didn't even know it was possible to download entire movies for free until I started reading those copyright messages.

couldnt help but notice such FBI messages on australian dvds over here, didnt realise they had jurisdiction IN ANOTHER COUNTRY

These motherfuckers are too old to understand what the Internet and by default piracy is about, the symptoms and the root problem.

It's anti-consumer fuckwits with no regard for the welfare of their customers.

Andy Shandy:
As with every topic that comes up about these unskippable things, I feel obliged to post this image.

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Anyway, do they not realise that people are annoyed by these and all these anti-piracy ads they have to wade through are more likely to make them pirate?

I don't download anything. I stream my bears.

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This thread made me think of this picture. It's like DRM, all it does is annoy and scare away their legit customers.

"Ohhhh...I'm so scared!"

Casual Shinji:

Andy Shandy:
As with every topic that comes up about these unskippable things, I feel obliged to post this image.

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Anyway, do they not realise that people are annoyed by these and all these anti-piracy ads they have to wade through are more likely to make them pirate?

I don't download anything. I stream my bears.

That's very wise. Less chance of mauling as well.

Also, here's Bender's piracy policy.

[sarcasm]I can totally see why they're doing this. I mean, all those other warnings have worked so well in the past. [/sarcasm]

And while it's easy to say that this is all the pirates fault, remember that reality is never that simple. There is always a root cause and effect and, while this doesn't excuse the pirates, the inability of the corporations to realize this is the true reason they're contiously trying to attack the symptoms and make the problem worse.
After all, they are the ones with the orginisational power and ability to do something about it.

Yet they still cling to their archaic thinking that punishing their remaining customers is a good idea.

.....Yeah. I don't understand how they got to that conclusion, either.

Andy Shandy:

Casual Shinji:

Andy Shandy:
As with every topic that comes up about these unskippable things, I feel obliged to post this image.

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Anyway, do they not realise that people are annoyed by these and all these anti-piracy ads they have to wade through are more likely to make them pirate?

I don't download anything. I stream my bears.

That's very wise. Less chance of mauling as well.

If the stream is filled with salmon it can take a while though. *yuck yuck*

Andy Shandy:
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I prefer Ed Byrne's take on piracy:

This music's so funky it makes me want to obey the law!

Oh, they mean THAT Unskippable. Why can't they just admit that it's an internal industry problem, after all, how else would pre colour corrected copies of movies get out?

Oh yeah, this shit is clearly going to get the job done... just makes me give both middle fingers to the screen during those warnings when I watch something alone. So get ready for even more people to start pirating shit when this stuff kicks in, dumb stupid old men...

(I do not suport piracy in any way, shape or form and I pay for all the stuff I get. The mods won't kill me for being snarky about piracy right?)

This always annoys me. I'm not a pirate if I'm watching the DVD. I don't need to be told that piracy is a bad thing. When I buy a movie ticket, there isn't a scary warning on the back of the ticket saying "Don't you dare sneak into the movies!"

And, to be brutally honest, are there actually people anywhere in the world who don't know that piracy is illegal and so forth and so on? Does this ad tell anyone anything they didn't already know?

Yeah I think they should stop trying to inform people of the law and trying to uphold it. I mean, who needs laws and rules? They just get in the way of things.

I'm rapidly losing any sympathy I might have possessed for anyone even vaguely in support of piracy even by apathy and omission. Piracy is illegal. This is a statement you would think it is hard to misunderstand but apparently people really are idiots. I don't need to be reminded again and again that stealing from a shop is wrong, or that copying someone's intellectual property and passing it off as my own is wrong, or that burglary or murder or speeding or assault is wrong (I am not comparing piracy to any of those crimes, I am listing them as crimes I have never had to be reminded about) yet somehow people can't get the hint that when something is illegal, you shouldn't do it.

Am I the only one who read this news title and immediately thought of Graham and Paul's Unskippable?
Yeah, I'm not going to say anything original, it's been said in previous posts, but... what do they hope to accomplish except annoy paying customers?... *sigh*

This reminds me of jim sterling's thoughts on DRM where all it does is reward those who do just pirate the movie file instead of paying money for the movie + about 15 minutes of ads and piracy warnings

MelasZepheos:
Yeah I think they should stop trying to inform people of the law and trying to uphold it. I mean, who needs laws and rules? They just get in the way of things.

I'm rapidly losing any sympathy I might have possessed for anyone even vaguely in support of piracy even by apathy and omission. Piracy is illegal. This is a statement you would think it is hard to misunderstand but apparently people really are idiots. I don't need to be reminded again and again that stealing from a shop is wrong, or that copying someone's intellectual property and passing it off as my own is wrong, or that burglary or murder or speeding or assault is wrong (I am not comparing piracy to any of those crimes, I am listing them as crimes I have never had to be reminded about) yet somehow people can't get the hint that when something is illegal, you shouldn't do it.

There are two points you're missing.

Point the first, is that there have always been copyright warnings on videos since durn near the birth of the medium, and yet piracy still occurs. The fact that piracy still occurs suggests that perhaps adding still another warning, in the same space, probably won't be as big a deterrent as the MPAA, FBI, and ICE would seem to think.

Point the second, is that these warnings are being placed on legitimately purchased media, purchased, by presumably, honest, law abiding folk like yourself. Who, like you, don't need to be reminded that unauthorized copying is illegal, and not by the individuals who have illegally downloaded those videos.

It's great that you don't have to be reminded not to shoplift or speed, but I'm willing to wager that you wouldn't shop at a store that made you listen to a 30 second lecture on the illegality of shoplifting from the cashier while you're checking out, or buy a car that would make you listen to a 30 second recording about the illegality of speeding before it let you put it into gear and drive off.

Someone get on the phone to China, statim!


The best anti piracy video ever.

It's very hard for us to feel bad about dose sawd wittle compawnies, when they're mostly acting like dickheads.

MelasZepheos:
I'm rapidly losing any sympathy I might have possessed for anyone even vaguely in support of piracy even by apathy and omission. Piracy is illegal.

Plagiarism is also illegal, but what would you think if in addition to captcha, you'd have to look at a warning not to plagiarise for 2 full minutes before you can click the post button, before each post?

I've stopped going to cinemas mainly because with all the trailers, copyright warnings and crap, the movie just starts over 10 minutes later than announced, and you can't arrive late to avoid it because the room's closed by then. I can think of better things to do with my time.

That and the sound being too loud and the outrageous costs of food and drinks there. They'll sell a cup of cola which costs them maybe € 0,10 for € 3-4. That's a profit margin of several thousand percent, ridiculous.

Grey Carter:
"Law enforcement must continue to piss off legitimate consumers while doing absolutely nothing to combat the actual crime," announced ICE director, John Morton.

Yeah, that's going to be effective.

No way this plan will ever, ever backfire. Nope, no way. Never.

..Yeah, another 10 second unskippable FBI screen on every dvd I purchase now? Seriously, fuck that.

I'm so glad that they want to ward off piracy by punishing buyers.

That's clearly the sane method. That's why all companies are doing it. We should always trust companies in what they do, they clearly have access to marketing statistics and things that we don't.

It's times like this that I'm glad I couldn't care less about seeing Hollywood movies.

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