BioWare Confirms Dragon Age III: Inquisition

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Mcoffey:
The dialogue wheel is always bad

Of course compared to ME3 auto-dialogue it's heaven ...

As I've said before, they have been taken over by writers ... they mention player agency, but they don't know the meaning of the words.

Initiate Mordin-Speak

Hopeful. Might manage miracle. Probably not. Warden might show up. Morrigan as well. And kid. Hoping so. Inquisition... *breath* not touching refference.

Pinky's Brain:

Mcoffey:
The dialogue wheel is always bad

Of course compared to ME3 auto-dialogue it's heaven ...

As I've said before, they have been taken over by writers ... they mention player agency, but they don't know the meaning of the words.

They may as well have just had an option at the beginning of the game asking if you wanted to be Paragon or Renegade. It would've saved some time.

Mcoffey:

Just out of curiosity did you play DA2 on PC or console?

Console. Pre-ordered it after I saw developer videos and trailers, thought it looked awesome, and because the special edition cost the same as the regular edition. My friends got me to get the first game by way of the Ultimate edition(cause I should play the first before starting the second), even-though I didn't like the looks of it when I watched them play it.

Between 20 to 25 hours into Origins, I just couldn't play it anymore because of the things I already mention, and because of the cliche very similar to each other and unlikeable party characters.

After that, I decided to give DA2 the benefit of the doubt, and kept my pre-order alive because I had hopes they would change what I didn't like. I was trilled to find out they did, and it was one of my top favorite games of that year.

Can't Wait!

Should be interesting to see how terrible the mandatory multiplayer component is...

Disliking DA2 made me a homophobe
Disliking ME3 made me entitled
Disliking TOR made me a whiner and a troll.

I'm looking forward to see what new buzzword EA will unveil for this game.

Look, we knew they were likely going to Orlais because of the cryptic messages from the golem in Act 3 of DA2.

For what it's worth, I loved DA2. It had serious gameplay flaws, but it also had some brilliant things that I don't think many other games have done quite as well. If they can fix the environments, combat wave mechanics and the story pacing but keep the character writing, charm, diversity and interaction, it will be a corker of a game.

I don't care if EA sucks, I love Dragon Age: origins and I'll still play DA2 when I get it tomorrow. So therefore, I am soooooooo happy to hear DA3 has been confirmed. Color me pleased.

I did actually enjoy the second game (one play through only verses 2 and a half of the first game) so I will pick it up.

Mcoffey:

Sonic Doctor:
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Agree to disagree. I found pretty much every change they made to Origins in making DA2 a change for the worse.

The dialogue wheel is always bad, because it obfuscates what the character is actually saying. All you know is a three word, often misleading, summary and how much of an asshole Hawke/Shepard was going to be when they said it.
If they have to keep that awful system in, I'd rather it be like Deus Ex: Human Revolutions, in that the short summary expands into what you're actually going to say when you highlight the option. And I liked Hawke less simply because he was voiced. His voice actor sounded unlikable regardless of inflection. Give me the Grey Warden any day.

One of the things i really liked about DA:2 was the fact that Hawke was voiced and I thought the dialogue wheel was fairly straightforward, rarely did Hawke say something I wasn't expecting, but then I got very used to the dialogue wheel in ME and think it really adds to a game. I have replayed Origins a number of times and it never fails to annoy me how emotionless the Warden is, no matter what race or gender they are they have the same blank face and don't seem to be affected by whats going on. Hawke at least seems to care (if you choose the diplomatic dialogue options) or at least reactions emotionally to situations. I also liked that Hawke's dialogue in cut scenes change depending on what personality Hawke has, so if you play through once as a Diplomatic Hawke and then again as a Charming/Sarcastic Hawke then you'll hear different lines. I think that is a great touch.

As for the voice acting, I never played male Hawke, but the voice acting for female Hawke was great, I really felt Hawkes personality in her voice, but then I also think Female Shepards voice actor, Jennifer Hale is better then Male Sheps.

WOOOOO

Apart from that sonic game and THAT ENDING, I have loved every Bioware game, and dragon age origins and 2 are my favorites. Cant wait :D

I'm actually really looking forward to what the mutiplayer is like. I would love a good multiplayer as long as it doesn't cause the single player to get watered down. Even if its just an entertaining tack on like the mass effect 3 mutiplayer, I will be pleased.

There may not even be a multiplayer though. Remember no EA games are green-lighted without an interactive comportment. This could mean a facebook game type thing, like DA Legends. doesn't guarantee a multiplayer.

"a more expansive world,

YES!!! DA2 was way too small for my liking.

better visuals,

Don't care, did you just say that to please your whip handlers?

more reactivity to player choices,

Always a good thing

and more customization."

This is another thing that DA2 lacked, let's hope they keep their promises. And of course keep that Bioware magic flowing by delivering great characters.

We'll see. I know I'm going to buy it but only time will tell if it's good. Also I miss my warden, I want to play as him again. I miss my companions from Origins too. On the bright side we still have project eternity if this sucks. And if it doesn't we still have project eternity anyway.

Spot1990:

Kargathia:

Copper Zen:
I'm going to go against the grain and give BioWare the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if they have learned from their mistakes.

When Dragon Age III comes out we'll find out.

Judging by development time we can be reasonably sure at least we won't get another rushed debacle like its predecessor. Whether they actually manage to create something good in their alloted time remains to be seen.

It undoubtedly being on Origin means I won't buy it, but I'm certainly hoping it turns out to be a good game.

Maybe they'll bring it to Steam. I mean a lot of people were pissed off about ME3. If people who actually said they'd boycott it did(long shot I know) then maybe EA will realise that the first rule of business is to earn money and if people don't buy you're game then you don't earn money.

That's a big nope, right there. They've got too much invested in Origin to suddenly back down and release one of their front-running titles on Steam.

CriticKitten:

Kargathia:
Judging by development time we can be reasonably sure at least we won't get another rushed debacle like its predecessor. Whether they actually manage to create something good in their alloted time remains to be seen.

Pssst. Long dev time != a game that isn't rushed.

Some prominent examples: Duke Nukem Forever, Ultima 9, etc.

For all we know they've been twiddling their thumbs for two years, or even worse, they repeated the mistakes of Ultima and were forced to keep throwing out their original work and starting over for any number of reasons.

What I'd really like to know, though, is how they implemented multi-player functionality into the Dragon Age franchise. Because remember, EA is very proud of the fact that it refuses to green-light anything that doesn't have some form of multi-player functionality into it. Which means in order for DA3 to be green-lit, it must have multi-player in some format (either that or EA's executives blatantly lied to their customers AGAIN, which is possible too I suppose). So I wonder how they did it. Dragon Age 3 Facebook apps? Twitter feeds? Local co-op play? Or, god forbid, they ripped out its very soul and turned it into a F2PMMO like how it corrupted C&C? I can't wait to hear all the juicy details. :D

The main complaint about DA2 was not that it was bad, it was that it was severely showing the signs of EA forcing Bioware to release either Mass Effect 2, or Dragon Age 2 ahead of schedule. Of the top of my head the dev cycle for Dragon Age 2 was a grandstanding 18 months.

As to your concern about multi-player: I'd like to note not the overall reliability of EA statements (not much), but the complete lack of any financial incentive for them to release Dragon Age 3 without a MP component that can be milked.

Facebook Apps seem to be a somewhat definite check. LAN support... probably not - it doesn't make them money.
Full multi-player component along the lines of Mass Effect 3 seems quite likely. Whether it's any good remains to be seen.

Vaccine:
Either way not much interest for this after Biowares last few games. :(

I disagree, though I did not play Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2 was a project handed to a different team with a year and a half limit of creation on it, and it came out pretty well. It was more like a dungeon crawler than the original game but it had it's ups and downs and came out pretty decent, at least. I think because DA2 sold so well, EA is giving Bioware more leeway for the new one, and they're now ramping up a true sequel to the original.
Needless to say, my faith in Bioware isn't gone and I look forward to the new DA, the new main character, and the new title of Inquisitor.

Hmm, I wonder if the inquisition will be...Spanish?

You have the benefit of the doubt Bioware, make it count.

Cautiously optimistic as many others. Here's hoping no ME3 style shenanigans take place.

On a side note: I'd be really happy if they allowed me to alter the build of my characters. Having a 120 lbs. bikini model wearing Dragonbone plate and swinging a 12 lbs. sword in one hand while holding a tower shield in the other is just ridiculous.

Double-post.

I have to say, its a skeptical wait and see. First was great, second was horribad, third might be average maybe?

And no, DA2 wasnt good, because, ya know, "good" games sales die damn quick when people start to play it and how horrible it is is revealed right?

I cant wait to see this little gem updated.

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I have more faith in Project Eternity, a game that only exists on paper right now, than I do in this product.

It's impossible to enjoy an EA product anymore with how much they force you to confront their business practices. There's no immersion when NPC's start selling you DLC within the confines of the story, or when Marilyn Manson is used to promote your game, or when you're forced to consider day one DLC content that was ripped from the core of the game, or when you're forced to interact with things outside of the game (facebook, multiplayer, aps, merchandise-tied DLC, pre-order bonus's) in order to experience the actual game in full, etc, etc, etc.

It doesn't matter what "Bioware" has learned from these last few releases; EA are still equally at fault and they clearly haven't learned a thing.

The butt hurt in this thread, it's over 9000!

OT: I will await patiently Bioware. I hope you pull through with this.

To all the naysayers who are complaining about Mass Effect. The DA team is different from the ME team, and they have a significantly smaller audience. Chill your tits.

Andy Chalk:
BioWare Confirms Dragon Age III: Inquisition

According to the rumor, Dragon Age III will be subtitled Inquisition and take place in the land of Orlais, where the Templars have turned away from the Chantry, mages are rebelling and the world hovers on the edge of chaos.

Sounds like the status quo, when isn't the dragon age world hovering on the edge of chaos?

"a more expansive world, better visuals, more reactivity to player choices, and more customization." The studio doesn't want to talk too much about the game until it's got something to show, Darrah explained, so everything else is hush-hush right now.

Statements that include that have somewhat lost the ability to peak my interest of late.

Rachel Veigh:

Mcoffey:

Sonic Doctor:
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Agree to disagree. I found pretty much every change they made to Origins in making DA2 a change for the worse.

The dialogue wheel is always bad, because it obfuscates what the character is actually saying. All you know is a three word, often misleading, summary and how much of an asshole Hawke/Shepard was going to be when they said it.
If they have to keep that awful system in, I'd rather it be like Deus Ex: Human Revolutions, in that the short summary expands into what you're actually going to say when you highlight the option. And I liked Hawke less simply because he was voiced. His voice actor sounded unlikable regardless of inflection. Give me the Grey Warden any day.

One of the things i really liked about DA:2 was the fact that Hawke was voiced and I thought the dialogue wheel was fairly straightforward, rarely did Hawke say something I wasn't expecting, but then I got very used to the dialogue wheel in ME and think it really adds to a game. I have replayed Origins a number of times and it never fails to annoy me how emotionless the Warden is, no matter what race or gender they are they have the same blank face and don't seem to be affected by whats going on. Hawke at least seems to care (if you choose the diplomatic dialogue options) or at least reactions emotionally to situations. I also liked that Hawke's dialogue in cut scenes change depending on what personality Hawke has, so if you play through once as a Diplomatic Hawke and then again as a Charming/Sarcastic Hawke then you'll hear different lines. I think that is a great touch.

As for the voice acting, I never played male Hawke, but the voice acting for female Hawke was great, I really felt Hawkes personality in her voice, but then I also think Female Shepards voice actor, Jennifer Hale is better then Male Sheps.

The Female voice actor for Hawke was much better. I did not like DA 2 but I cannot fault most of the voice acting. Play the opening as a male Hawke and you will hear how bad it is.

And as for Mass Effect I found the male sheps dialog to be painfull. Jennifer Hale did a great job in Mass Effect but male shep is some of the worst I have ever heard. At least to me. It is worst when he is shouting or doing a dramatic speach like the one on Rannok if you pick the Paragon option.

soren7550:
First thing that came to mind when I saw what the game was called:

This is awesomeness at its finest. Thank you :)

OT: DA3 is doomed to fail. Bioware's cycle of mediocre RPGs has repeated itself more times than we can fathom (uhm... 3). Mass Effect 3 was not the first. It did not create the trend of mediocre story telling. Mediocre story telling is the legacy of EA... etc

Guys, guys! It's time to traverse the same dungeon. In better graphics!

CardinalPiggles:

"a more expansive world,

YES!!! DA2 was way too small for my liking.

better visuals,

Don't care, did you just say that to please your whip handlers?

more reactivity to player choices,

Always a good thing

and more customization."

This is another thing that DA2 lacked, let's hope they keep their promises. And of course keep that Bioware magic flowing by delivering great characters.

When I read all of this, my initial take was 'Well, you want to do better than DA2. What a high -fucking- bar you've set for yourself, Bioware.' I'm still embittered by ME3, and by DA2. I expect another watered-down piece of crap, but I'm open to the idea that it might redeem the series. Maybe. Prolly not.

FelixG:
I have to say, its a skeptical wait and see. First was great, second was horribad, third might be average maybe?

And no, DA2 wasnt good, because, ya know, "good" games sales die damn quick when people start to play it and how horrible it is is revealed right?

I cant wait to see this little gem updated.

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As one of those numbers who bought both I'm not making the same mistake and pre-ordering Dragon Age 3. I'll waint till a Steam sale... I mean Origin sale... You know what screw this, one of my Kickstarter RPG's would have matured by then and while it might not have 'better visuals' it will be a damm sight better than the dross that was DA2.

John-Christopher Matyskiel:
When I read all of this, my initial take was 'Well, you want to do better than DA2. What a high -fucking- bar you've set for yourself, Bioware.' I'm still embittered by ME3, and by DA2. I expect another watered-down piece of crap, but I'm open to the idea that it might redeem the series. Maybe. Prolly not.

I personally liked DA2 to be honest. Of course it was nothing like what they promised, having major design flaws and being generally linear and small for an RPG, but for the price I paid for it, it was a pretty good game. I still don't think it deserved a five star rating though.

I will withhold judgement, until I actually have something to judge.
But I'm still a fan of the setting, so I'm happy to hear this.

Aerosteam 1908:
Will Jim Sterling make a cameo?

Ahaha, clever.

Already awaiting the inevitable "Dragon Age: Jimquisition" spoof.

Andy Chalk:
BioWare Confirms Dragon Age III: Inquisition

Dragon Age III: Inquisition is currently expected to be out in late 2013.

NO ONE expects the Dragon Age Inquisition!

Rocklobster99:
Disliking DA2 made me a homophobe
Disliking ME3 made me entitled
Disliking TOR made me a whiner and a troll.

I'm looking forward to see what new buzzword EA will unveil for this game.

Personally, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with you for not having any fun playing those games.

... So why is it then...

Fanboyism in its purest form:the games have widespread loathing and negative criticism, but they're really super special awesome and people are just knit-picking so they're opinions are wrong. No blind-faith praising of SWTOR while you're at it?

Also, LAAAAAAAAWL at people who actually think Dragon Age 2 was good. You need to either have extremely low standards or DA2 is your first game ever.

You can disagree all you want, but that doesnt change the fact DA2 was a steaming pile of horse manure, and ME3 finally made me appreciate The End of Evangelion.

...that so many have a problem with me liking them?

Bigger world and more customization? You mean more than 2, because that's basically just DA:O.

But that's still a good thing. If this game is only AS good as Origins (Which I admit is no small feat) I'm enough of a fan of the first game that I'd be okay with that.

Nevertheless, even though I think DA:II did a lot of things wrong, and is a shadow of Origins, I think it was the best kind of failure; it tried a lot of new things, some of the ideas behind it were really good, and I hope all the negative feedback doesn't cause BioWare to lose sight of that

Stuff like the cross class combos, the departure from standard structure, the conflict between Templars and Mages, and the war with the Qunari, I thought, were really interesting ideas that deserved more than to be overlooked and one act a piece respectively. I would love to see those things in a game that isn't burdened by the corny writing and one dimensional characters that sunk the second one.

BioWare, just learn from your mistakes. Take the time to listen not only to what everyone is saying, but to look into the more detailed opinions on your games.

Remember why Origins worked but don't pretend it was perfect, remember why DA:II didn't work but don't just scrap the whole thing.

Remember your roots but don't let them hold you back.

..which brings to mind the question, what the fuck were they doing for half of that time when they were already failing at the first sequel?

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