Astronomers Discover Planet Made Out of Diamond

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PrototypeC:
backwards (and fairly unpopular) country.

It will be funny when they find terrorists in your country.

Remember: MERRIKA! Be nice to us, or we'll bring democracy to your country.

That joke said, that was probably uncalled for. Grey is American (or Canadian, I forget) so it would make sense he put in what he knew.

This is good... this is very good.

History books will tell the tale of how our intergalactic society was sparked by nagging wives everywhere.

So this is where Butt Stallion must have been purchased fro...

Jandau:
So I'm guessing that's the homeworld of Butt Stallion from Borderlands 2?

Fuck. Beaten.

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GIMME!

Who cares?
What we really need is planet made of heavy metals somewhere near us

Someone get Jerry Bruckheimer on this ASAP- I smell a blockbuster in the making.

Something like "Top Rock Gone in 60 Armaggeddons" ...Oh god that was awful. Still with this guy in the lead everything would be alright:

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This is one of those things that I am not going to believe until they can actually prove it, especially when they admit it's their best guess.

We look up at the stars and make all kinds of assumptions only based on what we know so far. The thing is, we don't know everything. Half of this stuff could be wrong, especially when we already see things up there that don't conform to our standards of physics. One day many of these things will be hailed as silly fables, much like the magic islands and sea monsters that supposedly awaited us in the most distant oceans. You know, before we actually explored all of our world and found out how boring it really was.

so most of the planet is made of diamonds right?
so when the sun light hits it does it glow like a giant disco ball?

SOOOOOOOON. MY TELEPORT WILL BE READY SOOOOOOOOOON.
DIMONDS SHALL BE MINE, AND I SHALL RULE THE WOOOOORRRRLD. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

*Cough* Anyway, that's pretty cool.

And it'll all be mine sooooooooooon.

Omega500:

Dire Sloth:

Kopikatsu:

They wouldn't. Diamonds are actually already extremely common on Earth. The perception that they're rare and therefore should be valuable is partially because that was true in the 19th century when mining and (Can't think of the word for it...searching for mineral deposits) weren't good enough to mine a significant amount of diamond. But they are now. Once diamonds started to become really common, the largest of the diamond companies banded together and created De Beers Jewelers, forming a monopoly over the diamond market and allowing them to control the prices. Then they went and advertised diamonds as being rare and very valuable, when in reality, they're almost worthless.

Funfact: Despite being based in the US, Rhodes, Beit, and Rothschild (The founders of De Beers) refused to set food on US soil for fear of being arrested as soon as their plane touched down because of how blatantly illegal what they were doing was. They also had a few more controversies surrounding them, like refusing to help the WW2 war effort (Which isn't supposed to be optional)

Did you just happen to know all that??? 'Cause wow.

I was thinking that was common knowledge.
I wonder if there is a planet out there made of gold. gold looks better than diamonds anyway.

Yeah except for the small detail that it's bullshit. Of course, if there had been a monopoly capable of raising prices from "almost worthless" to "really expensive", then increased competition by an influx of diamonds from another supplier would destroy the current prices rather than not have any effect. And then there is the whole De Beers monopoly, which is false:

Wikipedia:
In 2000, the De Beers model changed,[19] due to factors such as the decision by producers in Russia, Canada and Australia, to distribute diamonds outside of the De Beers channel, thus effectively ending the monopoly.

And anyway, the difference between the prices under the former De Beers monopoly and no monopoly is not as substantial as between "extremely valuable" and "worthless". The monopoly was nowhere near a perfect monopoly. Blood diamonds and diamonds delved by mines under government supervision are part of the competition.
Even if there had been a perfect monopoly, then the difference in price would not have been as sizeable as between "expensive" and "worthless". A higher price also results in lower demand. The profit maximising price is typically higher for a monopolist than for a seller in a perfect market, but it is unlikely to be in the neighbourhood of a 100% price difference, and is certainly not bigger. Basic economics.

GZGoten:
so most of the planet is made of diamonds right?
so when the sun light hits it does it glow like a giant disco ball?

Not to be a killjoy, but probably not.
I imagine the surface is comprised of plain carbon ash and glass (as is most of the planet) with the more dense, compacted diamond material closer to the core.

Don't go down there.

Creatures on the surface will get inside your head and start mimicking other peoples voices to steal them.

PrototypeC:
Can we STOP using Fahrenheit in these posts? It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country. I know converters are free, but nobody should have to use one as every country in the world uses Celsius.

It's like typing out all the Escapist news posts in Old Latin only... look up a translator or be one of the very few that know what it says, otherwise it's just worthless.

I assume I've been ninja'ed in this, but you all know diamonds are very common these days, right? They haven't been rare for like 200 years.

The escapist is based in the United States, and the United States still uses Imperial measurements. Why should they pander to the rest of the world?

OT: I'm not suprised. Carbon is fairly low on the periodic table and pretty common in the universe, so this seems pretty normal to me. My question is are these going to be gemstone diamonds or industrial diamonds? Because there's a rather large difference there.

PrototypeC:
It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country.

Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

OT: Neat-o. Will scientists now finally realize that the universe doesn't need to simply work based around our current perception of "science"? Probably not, but hopefully this planet is a step in the right direction.

shrekfan246:

PrototypeC:
It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country.

Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

OT: Neat-o. Will scientists now finally realize that the universe doesn't need to simply work based around our current perception of "science"? Probably not, but hopefully this planet is a step in the right direction.

Didn't you get the memo? It's cool to hate the US! Everyone's doing it!

Fappy:

shrekfan246:

PrototypeC:
It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country.

Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

OT: Neat-o. Will scientists now finally realize that the universe doesn't need to simply work based around our current perception of "science"? Probably not, but hopefully this planet is a step in the right direction.

Didn't you get the memo? It's cool to hate the US! Everyone's doing it!

It's my favorite past-time! :D I'm just thinking there's more productive ways of doing it rather than harping on the use of Fahrenheit.

Fappy:

shrekfan246:

PrototypeC:
It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country.

Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

OT: Neat-o. Will scientists now finally realize that the universe doesn't need to simply work based around our current perception of "science"? Probably not, but hopefully this planet is a step in the right direction.

Didn't you get the memo? It's cool to hate the US! Everyone's doing it!

I was hating on you plebs before it was cool ;D

So...

Americans.

What's up with that?

*hold for applause*

...

OT: Bet there's a Marker in there, just wait, planet crackers will get to the planet then all manner of crazy necromorph shit is gonna go down.

Grey Carter:
its surface temperature can reach a pleasant 3,900 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, did I mention that scientists believe that at least a third of the planet is made of diamonds?

Huh. Here's a question - how long is the day there, and what is the temperature on the side facing away from the star?

I mean, Mercury (the closest equivalent in this solar system) is insanely hot on the side facing the sun, but freezing on the opposite side. If you use robots to do your diamond mining, then freezing isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you could arrange to always be on the dark side... then robotic mining would be possible.

Assuming you could get to the star system in the first place, obviously.

I demand that the name of the planet be changed to Tom. That or Midnight.

PrototypeC:
Can we STOP using Fahrenheit in these posts? It's pretty much only used by one backwards (and fairly unpopular) country. I know converters are free, but nobody should have to use one as every country in the world uses Celsius.

It's like typing out all the Escapist news posts in Old Latin only... look up a translator or be one of the very few that know what it says, otherwise it's just worthless.

Old Latin you say, how about A.M. and P.M. (ante meridiem and post meridiem)? Even people in countries that use the 24 hour clock still speak in terms of A.M. and P.M. Even Commonwealth countries can't resist using old Latin.

Besides when America eventually converts to the metric system, we'll go all the way past Celsius straight to Kelvin. Then we'll see who's stuck behind using archaic measurements. Or we'll just secretly convert to metric while still using the imperial units names just to annoy the rest of the world. Either way works.

Call me when you find a planet made of Tanzanite :p and we will talk.

Dire Sloth:

Fappy:
So, if we ever managed to efficiently mine it somehow that bring the value of the diamond down tremendously right? I guess traditional engagement rings would be pretty cheap then!

Ladies will be asking for black opal instead.
Top 10 Rarest Gems

According to this, the planet would be a bit more interesting if those diamonds were red.

Certainly are prettier, in my mind.

I want to make a ring out of it and marry the universe.

i figure a lot of people are thinking this right now:

'we're rich! we're rich! let's blast ourselves off into space towards it without lightspeed drives, stasis pods and sturdy rockets! i don't care if my head explodes, i wanna diamond!'

BOOM!
a rain of brain

Fappy:

shrekfan246:
Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

Didn't you get the memo? It's cool to hate the US! Everyone's doing it!

It's a little annoying that all of you from the U.S. came together to collectively belittle my concern just because of my choice of words. Is the U.S. backwards? Yes, if only in the way they measure temperature. Fahrenheit has been dropped by pretty much every nation in the world because it was no longer convenient and a better system had come along. You got offended and so you read my post as having all this rage in it; I actually typed it rather wearily.

Put your gung-ho patriotism aside for a minute and try thinking about this rationally. The Escapist is worldwide, and all English-speaking countries except the U.S. use Celsius. Hell, Carter could just put the Celsius in brackets next to the Fahrenheit if he insists on using the archaic one too.

trophykiller:
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Now we've figured out how to win the alliance of the Equestrians. Since many ponies(like rarity) are obsessed with diamonds, we can use this resource to win their allegiance.

Also, according to data in the show(collected from when Twilight Sparkle is informing rarity about the number of stars in Orion's belt), it seems that Orion's belt is visible from their planet, meaning they must be between our star and the three stars making up the belt. So either the star has formed early enough that it's light hasn't reached us, or it *might* be Saif Al Jabbar, but that's unlikely being as how Alnitak(closest star in the belt) is around 700 LY away, whereas Saif is around 650 LY, thus meaning that the stars would likely not be lined up as well, meaning that twilight sparkle referring to them as Orion's "belt" would be incorrect.

Further evidence of the visibility of Orion's belt from Equestria comes from the episode "It's About Time", in which Twilight Sparkle mentions the horsehead nebula. The horsehead nebula makes up a large portion of the constellation Orion, including some of the belt.

P.S. I think that this post is intolerably nerdy even as far as The Escapist can handle. And don't worry, I realize the show is a work of fiction. Nothing here is to be taken seriously.

Wait...so Equestria is on an alternate Earth? I was wondering what that planet was called...

Anyways, my only question is this: Now that we've found a diamond planet, where are the pearl and platinum planets? *gets looks* Don't give me THAT! At least one of you was thinking the same thing!

CAPTCHA: it hurts

No...that's only when DVS BSTrD does a pun that it hurts, Captcha. All I did was a game reference.

EDITKINESIS ALPHA

Oh...crap...

I know what planet that is...

It came up during fanfiction research for possible realities to include.

*runs out...does a Google search...finds this Wikipedia entry...runs back*

I was afraid of that. Guys...I think that's Spectra.

dyre:

Kopikatsu:

They wouldn't. Diamonds are actually already extremely common on Earth. The perception that they're rare and therefore should be valuable is partially because that was true in the 19th century when mining and (Can't think of the word for it...searching for mineral deposits) weren't good enough to mine a significant amount of diamond. But they are now. Once diamonds started to become really common, the largest of the diamond companies banded together and created De Beers Jewelers, forming a monopoly over the diamond market and allowing them to control the prices. Then they went and advertised diamonds as being rare and very valuable, when in reality, they're almost worthless.

Funfact: Despite being based in the US, Rhodes, Beit, and Rothschild (The founders of De Beers) refused to set food on US soil for fear of being arrested as soon as their plane touched down because of how blatantly illegal what they were doing was. They also had a few more controversies surrounding them, like refusing to help the WW2 war effort (Which isn't supposed to be optional)

Do you happen to have an estimate on how much cheaper they would be if DeBeers weren't artificially inflating the price (by controlling supply, right?)? I knew they were exaggerating the value of diamonds, but I didn't think diamonds were a dime a dozen or anything.

Diamonds are relatively common. Indeed, diamonds are common enough to be found in a wide variety of cost effective industrial applications. Those that are suitable for use as gemstones are far less so. Most of what is diamond has impurities that alter the color, or is too small, or any of a wide variety of defects that make the stone unattractive for decoration. This is, of course, true of most gemstones.

Still, the accusation has long been leveled at DeBeers, though with strikingly little evidence along the way, that the supply of gems is tightly controlled leading to rumors and speculation of vast storehouses of the things. The relative drop in diamond worth relies upon the fundamental fact that there are relatively few of them in circulation. Were it true that debeers had a significant stockpile it may not make much difference unless that stockpile was many times larger than what is currently on the market. Dumping a few tons of rocks would have little impact on the price of the gem in the long term. Dumping a few thousand tons of the same, however, would certainly have tremendous long term impact.

dyre:

Kopikatsu:

They wouldn't. Diamonds are actually already extremely common on Earth. The perception that they're rare and therefore should be valuable is partially because that was true in the 19th century when mining and (Can't think of the word for it...searching for mineral deposits) weren't good enough to mine a significant amount of diamond. But they are now. Once diamonds started to become really common, the largest of the diamond companies banded together and created De Beers Jewelers, forming a monopoly over the diamond market and allowing them to control the prices. Then they went and advertised diamonds as being rare and very valuable, when in reality, they're almost worthless.

Funfact: Despite being based in the US, Rhodes, Beit, and Rothschild (The founders of De Beers) refused to set food on US soil for fear of being arrested as soon as their plane touched down because of how blatantly illegal what they were doing was. They also had a few more controversies surrounding them, like refusing to help the WW2 war effort (Which isn't supposed to be optional)

Do you happen to have an estimate on how much cheaper they would be if DeBeers weren't artificially inflating the price (by controlling supply, right?)? I knew they were exaggerating the value of diamonds, but I didn't think diamonds were a dime a dozen or anything.

Diamonds are relatively common. Indeed, diamonds are common enough to be found in a wide variety of cost effective industrial applications. Those that are suitable for use as gemstones are far less so. Most of what is diamond has impurities that alter the color, or is too small, or any of a wide variety of defects that make the stone unattractive for decoration. This is, of course, true of most gemstones.

Still, the accusation has long been leveled at DeBeers, though with strikingly little evidence along the way, that the supply of gems is tightly controlled leading to rumors and speculation of vast storehouses of the things. The relative drop in diamond worth relies upon the fundamental fact that there are relatively few of them in circulation. Were it true that debeers had a significant stockpile it may not make much difference unless that stockpile was many times larger than what is currently on the market. Dumping a few tons of rocks would have little impact on the price of the gem in the long term. Dumping a few thousand tons of the same, however, would certainly have tremendous long term impact.

PrototypeC:

Fappy:

shrekfan246:
Yes, let's perpetuate the constant repetitive nature of international hatred in threads that don't even bring up countries. You know the guy who wrote this article is Canadian, right? Maybe tone down the US hatred a bit, at least over something as relatively small as the use of Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

Didn't you get the memo? It's cool to hate the US! Everyone's doing it!

It's a little annoying that all of you from the U.S. came together to collectively belittle my concern just because of my choice of words. Is the U.S. backwards? Yes, if only in the way they measure temperature. Fahrenheit has been dropped by pretty much every nation in the world because it was no longer convenient and a better system had come along. You got offended and so you read my post as having all this rage in it; I actually typed it rather wearily.

Put your gung-ho patriotism aside for a minute and try thinking about this rationally. The Escapist is worldwide, and all English-speaking countries except the U.S. use Celsius. Hell, Carter could just put the Celsius in brackets next to the Fahrenheit if he insists on using the archaic one too.

Sorry to add onto the pile of Americans belittling your choice of words, but choice of words is important. It was pretty much an unwarranted attack, regardless of its truth. Yeah, the US is hella backwards and extremely unpopular in a lot of ways, but just like I don't go around calling stupid people stupid for no reason, I only bring up US' backwardness when it's relevant.

It's not a matter of gung-ho patriotism; I certainly did a 180 degree turn regarding patriotism sometime in my first year of high school. But even if I was in Saudi Arabia, I wouldn't attack the country's backwardness unless I was trying to have a constructive discussion (or a good-natured joke) about it. It's just unnecessary rudeness, with a hint of bandwagon following added in.

Oh, and honestly, the relative merits between Farenheit and Celsius are negligible. We're not talking about the metric system vs imperial system here. You guys have the convenient 0 freeze, 100 boil numbers; we have the 0 is about as cold as weather gets, 100 is about as hot as it gets "benchmarks." Farenheit's a bit easier for weather reporting; Celsius is probably better for chemistry. It's not so much "backwards" as it is "different."

edit: sorry, I meant first year of college, not high school. It's pretty much part of the high school curriculum here to convince students that America's the best country ever.

Eclectic Dreck:

dyre:

Kopikatsu:

They wouldn't. Diamonds are actually already extremely common on Earth. The perception that they're rare and therefore should be valuable is partially because that was true in the 19th century when mining and (Can't think of the word for it...searching for mineral deposits) weren't good enough to mine a significant amount of diamond. But they are now. Once diamonds started to become really common, the largest of the diamond companies banded together and created De Beers Jewelers, forming a monopoly over the diamond market and allowing them to control the prices. Then they went and advertised diamonds as being rare and very valuable, when in reality, they're almost worthless.

Funfact: Despite being based in the US, Rhodes, Beit, and Rothschild (The founders of De Beers) refused to set food on US soil for fear of being arrested as soon as their plane touched down because of how blatantly illegal what they were doing was. They also had a few more controversies surrounding them, like refusing to help the WW2 war effort (Which isn't supposed to be optional)

Do you happen to have an estimate on how much cheaper they would be if DeBeers weren't artificially inflating the price (by controlling supply, right?)? I knew they were exaggerating the value of diamonds, but I didn't think diamonds were a dime a dozen or anything.

Diamonds are relatively common. Indeed, diamonds are common enough to be found in a wide variety of cost effective industrial applications. Those that are suitable for use as gemstones are far less so. Most of what is diamond has impurities that alter the color, or is too small, or any of a wide variety of defects that make the stone unattractive for decoration. This is, of course, true of most gemstones.

Still, the accusation has long been leveled at DeBeers, though with strikingly little evidence along the way, that the supply of gems is tightly controlled leading to rumors and speculation of vast storehouses of the things. The relative drop in diamond worth relies upon the fundamental fact that there are relatively few of them in circulation. Were it true that debeers had a significant stockpile it may not make much difference unless that stockpile was many times larger than what is currently on the market. Dumping a few tons of rocks would have little impact on the price of the gem in the long term. Dumping a few thousand tons of the same, however, would certainly have tremendous long term impact.

Hmm, I did wonder if the fact that only certain diamonds can be made into pretty jewels had a large impact. I guess it does.

So, you're saying DeBeers isn't manipulating prices through stockpiling?

I did a quick wikipedia search (not saying wikipedia's word is the law, but it's a good starting point), and it says DeBeers did stockpile and manipulate prices in the 20th century. Apparently it was a matter of creating a cartel system with all the other diamond producers, destroying small producers that wouldn't cooperate, and purchasing existing stockpiles. Since then, other major players have entered the market since then, and it can no longer do so. Also, it pled guilty to price-fixing industrial diamonds with GE in 2004.

So, I guess you're probably partly right. They don't use stockpiling as a means to manipulate prices anymore, since if you've got real competition then hiding your diamonds under your pillow isn't really going to help. But they used to!

Oooh... neat! ...Though maybe we should wait a bit before actually going to check it out...

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