GaymerX2 Promises Bigger, Longer Show For 2014

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Abomination:
I don't get what you're saying here. People are questioning what they're doing because it's not fully explained. Just because people are not "impacted" or whatever is not reason for their questions to be suddenly invalid.

No people are questioning its reason for existence, not what they're doing. What they're doing is clear, Discussing/debating issues like gender, sexuality, race, and identity.

Abomination:

Because from how it appears it's not being explained very well. At face value the whole thing doesn't seem very effective in carrying out its goals.

Their goal is to create a space to discuss issues like gender, sexuality, race, and identity in games without fear by creating a space where people can discuss issues like gender, sexuality, race, and identity without fear. How is that not achieving their goals?

Abomination:

That's a great question. That's what people are asking.

No people are asking why the convention needs to exist, not what is going to be discussed at the convention.

Abomination:

Point still stands though. How do you convince the wider gaming audience of something when you remove yourself from the wider gaming audience?

Where does it say they want to convince the wider gaming audience of anything?

wulf3n:
Where does it say they want to convince the wider gaming audience of anything?

And now we've come full circle. If they don't want to convince the wider gaming audience to be more accepting of LGBT issues then what's the point of the discussions in the first place?

If their goal is to just talk of course people are going to sit back and ask... "Why do you need a con for that?"

Abomination:

wulf3n:
Where does it say they want to convince the wider gaming audience of anything?

And now we've come full circle. If they don't want to convince the wider gaming audience to be more accepting of LGBT issues then what's the point of the discussions in the first place?

If their goal is to just talk of course people are going to sit back and ask... "Why do you need a con for that?"

Why do you need a con for anything?

Cons are just places for like minded people to get together and discuss and experience what they like.

I didn't notice anyone bring it up so just to be sure we're all on the same page here, it's not a "gay only" con. (I'm not even sure how they'd enforce that. Do you guys get membership cards or something?) Straights are welcome too. They're just going to be the "other" at this particular con.

Personally, I think it's great that the first GaymerX was a success, and I hope it grows into big, annual thing that's widely accepted as just another gamer con - but one in which calling somebody a faggot will probably result in bruises.

My buddy is part of this con's team. I feel like I have an in side source. Wooo.

Andy Chalk:

widely accepted as just another gamer con

It is something to look forward too, but unfortunately, we aren't there yet. It will be some time before the "gay" in gaymercon is overlooked.

We can always strive though.

Abomination:

wulf3n:
Where does it say they want to convince the wider gaming audience of anything?

And now we've come full circle. If they don't want to convince the wider gaming audience to be more accepting of LGBT issues then what's the point of the discussions in the first place?

If their goal is to just talk of course people are going to sit back and ask... "Why do you need a con for that?"

Well, why do you need a con for anything? The entire point of conventions is to act as a meeting place for people who already share viewpoints regarding certain topics and want to discuss and celebrate them among like-minded people. Your arguments so far haven't been removed in any way from an argument against the existence of all conceivable conventions ever.

Conventions were made because the larger societal media had little regard for certain subjects, GaymerX carries on in that spirit as the video game community, at large, has expressed little interest in discussing minority representation in its medium in any meaningful way.

Everyone keeps mentioning that this convention is a place for LGBT to feel safe.
Just how dangerous are regular conventions? are gay people often targeted for example?

All well and good with the convention and all, but I'm not sure I particularly want:

gender, sexuality, race, and identity

in my video games. I'd prefer to just kill orcs, aliens, robots, dragons and the like if it's all the same. I have no interest in literature, film, TV or other creative medium relating to the above, why would I want this stuff in my main hobby?

I'd rather go to PAX to be honest, they already have panels about LGBT stuff in gaming as well as a whole host of other topics. That's good enough for me. But if some folks want to have LGBT-Con then good for them, I hope they do well and enjoy it.

I'm not LGBT but if this was in the UK i would totally attend. One of the few times i regret i'm not stateside

Hellz_Barz:
Just how dangerous are regular conventions? are gay people often targeted for example?

I don't think "danger" is necessarily the right word, but the prevalence of "fag, gay, homo," etc. in the gamer vernacular has to be disturbing for people who are actually gay. Simply put, most of us would be appalled if someone tossed racial slurs in public, but homophobic slurs haven't reached that level of widespread rejection.

And I'm also sure that some people do face the threat of physical violence, too, especially transsexuals, who are far more visible (and thus vulnerable to abuse) than your run-of-the-mill queer.

KingsGambit:
All well and good with the convention and all, but I'm not sure I particularly want:

gender, sexuality, race, and identity

in my video games. I'd prefer to just kill orcs, aliens, robots, dragons and the like if it's all the same. I have no interest in literature, film, TV or other creative medium relating to the above, why would I want this stuff in my main hobby?

Then just don't buy games with those themes? Then they won't have to be a part of 'your games' and you can kill as many orcs, aliens, goombas, orangutangs and blue cheese as you please.

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