Rumor: Bethesda Teases Next Fallout With New Website - UPDATED

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In Britain? Are you guys serious? Replace the USA with a setting so culturally similar? Please don't.
Use somewhere in continental Europe or - maybe even better - China (as the USA's primary antagonist in the war surrounding the nuclear holocaust). See it from their point of view, perhaps?

Also, I'm curious about Africa. I'm not that well-versed in the Fallout setting, but did Africa actually take part in the global war or was it mostly left to its own devices? What was the political situation/stability there during the conflict? Were they even hit with nukes or largely ignored as every major power bombed each other into oblivion? Was there a confederation of nations or were they still splintered?

trty00:

Scorpid:

trty00:

Offend who? The hardcore Fallout fans who want everything to stay the same? While I don't think you should actively try to piss off your fanbase, fans can get pretty ridiculous. Zelda fans freaked out over the look of Wind Waker and DMC fans freaked out over the new direction of the series, even though it was only a stylistic one, so they can get pretty irrational.

There are other places to go, you could go to the American south, canada, Cuba/Florida, Texas (though it would probably be more of New Vegas). Fallout hasn't completely explored its twist on 50's america.

Maybe in a superficial sense, but apart from that, what else REALLY has to be explored? I get it, it's American iconography and idealism that was present through the 20's to the 50's twisted and put into a post apocalyptic wasteland, what else you got? It might be neat to see things in the deep south, a region that wasn't reflected in classic American idealism, but I think that's just because I really liked Point Lookout.

As has been said already, American culture in that period of time was not at all isolated to America. It spread all over. It would be cool to see how that might be viewed with a unique filter.

...Then clearly you are looking for a different series. With the exception of post WWII Japan, Cuba and Hawaii(?), American occupations or expat colonies don't register in American pop culture, which is the focus of the series.

EDIT: You could include Native American culture but that would just be seen as too sad and exploitative.

EDIT2: OH WAIT THEY DID DO THAT... and it was that ='(

So, the setting will be 18 years after The Courier made the Mojave his bitch and the main character now "The Survivor" has probably been through a lot before the plot even starts. Interesting. I hope Obsidian handles this as well. I was honestly surprised by the choices in New Vegas (not The Witcher - level choices, but it was good where it mattered). I hope they get the benefit of a full project timeline. As glorious my romp through New Vegas was, I have a constant fear of the game suddenly refusing to load my saves and random crashes. That and post-game content. I'll be tuning in to this one.

Scorpid:

trty00:

Scorpid:

There are other places to go, you could go to the American south, canada, Cuba/Florida, Texas (though it would probably be more of New Vegas). Fallout hasn't completely explored its twist on 50's america.

Maybe in a superficial sense, but apart from that, what else REALLY has to be explored? I get it, it's American iconography and idealism that was present through the 20's to the 50's twisted and put into a post apocalyptic wasteland, what else you got? It might be neat to see things in the deep south, a region that wasn't reflected in classic American idealism, but I think that's just because I really liked Point Lookout.

As has been said already, American culture in that period of time was not at all isolated to America. It spread all over. It would be cool to see how that might be viewed with a unique filter.

...Then clearly you are looking for a different series. With the exception of post WWII Japan, Cuba and Hawaii(?), American occupations or expat colonies don't register in American pop culture, which is the focus of the series.

It's not about registering with American pop culture exclusively, that's not what I said. I said it would be cool to see the zeitgeist that was American pop culture viewed through a different cultural filter. As I've said already, if we don't innovate, we stagnate. Changing up locations and perspectives isn't derivative, doing the same thing over and over again is.

VMK:
Beatles!

Since it's a Fallout game they would have to be Radbeatles.

One good thing about this, is that Bethesda has a clean slate to work with if it does take place in Europe. The BOS is the remnants of the american army and the Enclave of the government. The NCR and CL are both region based. Really am interested in seeing what they do.

I am kinda shocked if it takes place in Europe as I thought there were several articles that mentioned them scouting out the commonwealth and it's area for the next fallout. Hm, curious.

trty00:

Scorpid:

trty00:

Maybe in a superficial sense, but apart from that, what else REALLY has to be explored? I get it, it's American iconography and idealism that was present through the 20's to the 50's twisted and put into a post apocalyptic wasteland, what else you got? It might be neat to see things in the deep south, a region that wasn't reflected in classic American idealism, but I think that's just because I really liked Point Lookout.

As has been said already, American culture in that period of time was not at all isolated to America. It spread all over. It would be cool to see how that might be viewed with a unique filter.

...Then clearly you are looking for a different series. With the exception of post WWII Japan, Cuba and Hawaii(?), American occupations or expat colonies don't register in American pop culture, which is the focus of the series.

It's not about registering with American pop culture exclusively, that's not what I said. I said it would be cool to see the zeitgeist that was American pop culture viewed through a different cultural filter. As I've said already, if we don't innovate, we stagnate. Changing up locations and perspectives isn't derivative, doing the same thing over and over again is.

If they stayed in California, yes I would agree, but they don't they move to different places and different ideas in American Popculture. Washington, Chicago, Las Vegas, briefly touched on Mormonism, as I stated before Native Americans, my favorite DLC covered the Great Gatsby. But it has to stay in America viewed by the decedents of Americans. To do otherwise would be like taking guns out of CoD, or Knives out of Assassins Creed. Taking the Batsuit out of Batman, the sand box out of GTA, or Portal puzzles out of Portal. It would make it pointless to call it Fallout. Innovation for the sake of not being SEEN as derivative isn't a good use of any property if it's taking its entire flavor and identity with it. I mean the worse games in the fallout series, Brotherhood of Steel, tried this and it's no longer considered even canon.

EDIT: Sorry not Chicago, I meant Pittsburgh.

Genocidicles:
I'm not even American and I know this series needs to stay in America. The cultural references to 1950's America is part of what makes Fallout what it is.

Without the American feel, it may as well not be Fallout.

Be that as it may, the lore is actually very rich and has references to other countries. Heck, I'd be really interested in a Fallout game set in the events leading up to the Great War. And while the aesthetics of the game is squarely rooted in fifties America, it's not like devastated America is the only place left in the world. It would be interesting to see how the other continents fared after the bombs fell.

Arnoxthe1:
Fallout, eh? I was sort of hoping they were working on another Elder Scrolls instead, but oh well. This is probably for the best. Skyrim still has a lot of life in it and we can definitely wait.

Skyrim has... life in it?

XD no offence but all the characters in skyrim are soulless and you never get the option to change anything in the way you want it, always one set ending, no proper alt paths, everything usually the same, all dungeons having more or less the same set up, it felt so horrible XD Fallout New Vegas however... ho ho ho! There's a keeper, but thats because it was done by obsidian, not Bethesda.

Oh please let this be about Fallout! It's my favorite game series and I've been super keen for this since I finished Skyrim. I don't care where it's set (although Europe somewhere would be interesting) I just want more Fallout :D

VMK:

CriticalMiss:
Whilst the character and atmosphere of the other Fallout games was nice, it would be refreshing to see what happened elsewhere in the world. Part of me wants them to avoid the UK though.

YES!
Gentlemanly Supermutants! Ghouls in bowler hats! Beatles!

Ahem. That would be quite nice, actually.

if i don't have to mod my game to make everybody wear a top hat *coughposhmudcrabscough* then i'm happy. seriously, locations aside, just a new fallout game has got me excited!

Nuclear Winter is coming.

CharrHearted:

Arnoxthe1:
Fallout, eh? I was sort of hoping they were working on another Elder Scrolls instead, but oh well. This is probably for the best. Skyrim still has a lot of life in it and we can definitely wait.

Skyrim has... life in it?

XD no offence but all the characters in skyrim are soulless and you never get the option to change anything in the way you want it, always one set ending, no proper alt paths, everything usually the same, all dungeons having more or less the same set up, it felt so horrible XD Fallout New Vegas however... ho ho ho! There's a keeper, but thats because it was done by obsidian, not Bethesda.

And all of those soulless creatures are PC-sexual. Because Bethesda has absolutely zero integrity as storytellers. And whose writers think that fleshing out the characters which you're purportedly supposed to be interacting with is far less important than accidentally interfering with someone's ability to play house with a virtual puppet.

thesurvivor2299.com -

Just takes me to Bethesda main page :(

(unless it was all a complex scam to get me to buy the Dragonborn statue!)

VMK:

CriticalMiss:
Whilst the character and atmosphere of the other Fallout games was nice, it would be refreshing to see what happened elsewhere in the world. Part of me wants them to avoid the UK though.

YES!
Gentlemanly Supermutants! Ghouls in bowler hats! Beatles!

Ahem. That would be quite nice, actually.

Also gangs based on Punks, Mods and Rockers. A mutant royal family with guards. :-) I think London would be perfect as their is the tube and many world recognized buildings to visit.

Fingers crossed. Where ever they set it it will be a day one purchase for me.

I'm not American, or all that familiar with the geography, but I did do a quick Google Maps search for 'Bridgeport'. It seemed to be just North East of Washington and where the 'Capital Wasteland' would be. A quick look to where Pittsburgh or 'The Pitt' was and the distances appeared to be roughly similar if going to the Bridgeport in Connecticut, closer for the one in Philadelphia.

Now me not being a super genius game designer may put me on the wrong track, but isn't Bridgeport a bit too close for a new game? Sure Fallout 1 & 2 were set in basically the same area, and New Vegas was close to the original Core Region show in its predecessors, but that was after 10 years (real world time) and had a nostalgic feel to revisiting the area.

Bridgeport is barely further from the original game than one of the expansion packs game locations. It seems a bit implausible for a location, unless it nearer the most Southern West corner I suppose.

If I am mistaken about any of my geography, then please correct me.

McFazzer:
I'm not American, or all that familiar with the geography, but I did do a quick Google Maps search for 'Bridgeport'. It seemed to be just North East of Washington and where the 'Capital Wasteland' would be. A quick look to where Pittsburgh or 'The Pitt' was and the distances appeared to be roughly similar if going to the Bridgeport in Connecticut, closer for the one in Philadelphia.

Now me not being a super genius game designer may put me on the wrong track, but isn't Bridgeport a bit too close for a new game? Sure Fallout 1 & 2 were set in basically the same area, and New Vegas was close to the original Core Region show in its predecessors, but that was after 10 years (real world time) and had a nostalgic feel to revisiting the area.

Bridgeport is barely further from the original game than one of the expansion packs game locations. It seems a bit implausible for a location, unless it nearer the most Southern West corner I suppose.

If I am mistaken about any of my geography, then please correct me.

The only thing I would add to that is that New Vegas does take place after Fallout 3, so let me pull up some maths real quick...

Fallout 3 took place in 2277.

New Vegas took place in 2281, four years later.

This fallout game is supposed to take place 22 years after Fallout 3. A lot can actually change in just ten years, so twenty two might give way to the factions of the Capital Wasteland finally having access to The Commonwealth.

However, I'm sure everyone is expecting that the Republic of Dave finally waged war on the rest of the Capital Wasteland and took over the entire area, now his son, Bob, rules with an iron fist and it's up to the PC to lead a Deathclaw rebellion to freedom.

Fun thing about Bethesda, they arent Valve. That is, if they register something, and rumors begin...they are likely right. Bethesda registered Skyrim as a trademark like a year or so before it was announced and people were like "Are we going to Skyrim next!?"

But its a good thing.

This may actually get me lynched here but I wasn't a massive fan of Fallout 3 and related DLCs.

Still, looking forward to what comes out.

On a totally unrelated note, I'm glad to see the date given on the website was in one of the two logical orders of writing dates. Month/Day/Year infuriates me to no end.

All the thin evidence I've seen since NV clearly indicates that F4 takes place in Boston, with a heavy focus on MIT and the android revolution.

This stinks of hokum, makes no sense, and nothing short of a Bethesda announcement will convince me otherwise.

I really hope they use a new engine. At the very least smooth talk Valve into co-op with funds and the next Source Engine.

Hell, the one they used for HL2 would be better than the unstable one they use now.

Why does everyone want it to be set in England? I'd much rather see it set in China, since the war was mainly between US and China.

I don't have a voice in this conversation though, since the chances of me playing it are very slim. I was a huge fan of the turn-based games but was never a fan of the decision to turn the series into a first person shooter. I played New Vegas recently and even with mods I really had to force myself to finish it. I find the first 2 games to be better in just about every way. Maybe we'll get another turn-based Fallout game some day...but I'm not holding my breath

00slash00:
Why does everyone want it to be set in England? I'd much rather see it set in China, since the war was mainly between US and China.

Skeleon:
In Britain? Are you guys serious? Replace the USA with a setting so culturally similar? Please don't.
Use somewhere in continental Europe or - maybe even better - China

IMHO, US and China settings are over represented. I've been all over the U.S. and Hong Kong in various games. An European setting would be really nice for a change. There are so many fantastic cities to explore on the old continent. London, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Moscow... I would love to experience a game adaptation of them. But as the greatest videogame market is the U.S, I guess it's "risky business".

And no, Britain is not just an appendage of U.S. culture.

00slash00:
Why does everyone want it to be set in England? I'd much rather see it set in China, since the war was mainly between US and China.

I don't have a voice in this conversation though, since the chances of me playing it are very slim. I was a huge fan of the turn-based games but was never a fan of the decision to turn the series into a first person shooter. I played New Vegas recently and even with mods I really had to force myself to finish it. I find the first 2 games to be better in just about every way. Maybe we'll get another turn-based Fallout game some day...but I'm not holding my breath

Odds are that if we ever do get another turn-based Fallout it'll be a small F2P game for tablets and smartphones. Other than XCom, there just doesn't seem to be a place for more mainstream TBS games anymore.

Hopefully, if XCom is succesful enough, devs and publishers will consider it atleast possible for TBS games to work and maybe then we'll see a sequel to the classic Fallout games.

Nice, that's exactly 3 years after Skyrim was announced :D

The count down page now has an official Vault-Tec logo on it. And ZeniMax is insanely protective of their intellectual properties, if this was not genuine, they'd have had this domain down by 8am EST this morning.

Some thoughts as a long time franchise fan going back to Black Isle/Interplay.

1.) Obsidian definitely did the better of the two "modern" Fallout adaptations but Fallout 3 was something beautiful to behold when it was new, that first step into the wasteland from the vault....I still remember it to this day and it helped me accept the Bethsoft adaptation of the IP quite a bit.

2.) Fallout 3's shortfall's were in the massive divergence from the western coastal theme that had always been part of the Fallout tone and timbre. D.C. was a wide divergence. It also lacked immense amounts of key plot points linking Vault-Tec to the US Government that it could have covered as compared to pushing an action based storyline focused around the vault dweller and their father and the Brotherhood of Steel....which to be honest the immensity of the divide and the BOS's first recorded appearances being in California chapters, it was kind of hard to swallow. FO3 lacked the depth it needed to really break out, but it was still...good enough.

3.) Engine, its always Gamebyro and it will continue to be Gamebyro, the upside here is that its entirely likely that this project has been built on the bones and girders of the engine that drove Skyrim which all in all, while still problematic is a large improvement over their previous TES Gamebyro engine builds that were ported over and used to support FO3 and FONV.

4.) Depending on how closely the content format fits the previous Skyrim model there is, potentially, already a huge amount of resources on hand that can easily cross port (for PC versions at least) with a little creativity to make whatever horrors Bethsoft releases as body/face models a bit less problematic.

5.) Over the last two years multiple highly skilled programmers have developed mods that have stabilized Skyrim to the point of being able to run a 200+ mod install with little to no crashing whatsoever, most of these patches and fixes will likely be cross compatible with FO4.

6.) Boston, Bridgeport....wherever this occurs, its still FO4 and as big a fan of TES as I am, Fallout is simply the better and more interesting IP to me. If they give FO4 the depth of story it needs to carry a long term open world experience, it will be very interesting indeed.

7.) Hopefully they hire more than 22 VOA's for this one. Skyrim got a little annoying hearing 20 characters voiced by the same person. Money spent on VOA can't be quantified in total potential profit returns but its the one thing thats made BioWare's stuff stand out through a very rough patch for that studio. They don't skimp on character immersion, hopefully Bethsoft has taken a few key lessons from where they kinda faceplanted on various parts of Skyrim and will show improvement for this title...and if not....don't worry about it, we'll take care of it like we always do (the modding community).

On a non-bullet point point, I am more excited about the presence of a web page with a jscript countdown app and an embeded sound file than I am everything ZeniMax has posted about ESO. I think a lot of true Bethesda fans feel this way....this is what we've been waiting for. ESO has just been a concern and a distraction.

Hm, that could be fantastic.

Having looked at the HTML source, the date on which the timer ends is 06.12.2013, which is coincidentally also what the morse code mp3 seems to say.
The logo is indeed a vault tech logo, as the name already states: http://thesurvivor2299.com/assets/static/vt.png.
There seems to be some kind of placeholder comment for a future flash video to be put in, or something. There's this piece of code:
<!--- Flash Window http://www.youtube.com/user/BethesdaSoftworks/videos -->

Nothing else really interesting to find, with the exception of the javascript code for an age gate being present.

Let's hope I'm actually allowed to do this and won't get a warning.

As for my personal hopes for this game: I hope it uses id Tech 5, because I have an AMD card and thus pretty good OpenGL performance, alongside with the fact that id Tech 5 is an actual state-of-the-art FPS engine (and the fact that I... kind of know how to mod FPS engines more or less properly, but loathe the CK).

Wait, the morse code has demitones now. I listened to this last night and the date was clear in the code, but now there are demitones in the sound.

The demitones start in about the second play through of the date. Another layer of data? Telegraphic mining code has used demitone in past history. But I'm unsure if its ever been overlayed on straight morse.

Yes its definitely right channel demitone, left channel is straight morse, the right channel is demitone mining code.

CharrHearted:
XD no offence but all the characters in skyrim are soulless and you never get the option to change anything in the way you want it, always one set ending, no proper alt paths, everything usually the same, all dungeons having more or less the same set up, it felt so horrible XD Fallout New Vegas however... ho ho ho! There's a keeper, but thats because it was done by obsidian, not Bethesda.

XD no offence but fallout new vegas was boring with the worst intro I've ever seen to a game, and the entire gritty orange-everywhere environment just made it worse, the main story has holes in it right when I start the game, all the buildings looked the same, it felt so horrible XD The Elder Scrolls Skryim however... ho ho ho! (I'm Santa Claus.) There's a keeper, but that's because it was done by bethesda, not Obsidian.

Bethesda get to ruin the fallout lore all over again YAY!

Tiamat666:

00slash00:
Why does everyone want it to be set in England? I'd much rather see it set in China, since the war was mainly between US and China.

Skeleon:
In Britain? Are you guys serious? Replace the USA with a setting so culturally similar? Please don't.
Use somewhere in continental Europe or - maybe even better - China

IMHO, US and China settings are over represented. I've been all over the U.S. and Hong Kong in various games. An European setting would be really nice for a change. There are so many fantastic cities to explore on the old continent. London, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Moscow... I would love to experience a game adaptation of them. But as the greatest videogame market is the U.S, I guess it's "risky business".

And no, Britain is not just an appendage of U.S. culture.

Interesting. I don't think I've ever played a game set in China (certainly not in recent memory) but I feel like I've played a ton of games set in Europe. I just think China would be a more interesting location because they have a lot more to do with the lore than Europe. To my knowledge the world blew up because of the war between US and China. Since all the games have taken place in America so far, it seems logical that if they wanted to change the setting, they would set it in China. Maybe we could see the other side of the story

Pr0:
The count down page now has an official Vault-Tec logo on it. And ZeniMax is insanely protective of their intellectual properties, if this was not genuine, they'd have had this domain down by 8am EST this morning.

That symbol isn't registered IIRC.

Now the Vault boy is, but the vault-tec logo isnt any form of registered trademark.

CharrHearted:

Arnoxthe1:
Fallout, eh? I was sort of hoping they were working on another Elder Scrolls instead, but oh well. This is probably for the best. Skyrim still has a lot of life in it and we can definitely wait.

Skyrim has... life in it?

XD no offence but all the characters in skyrim are soulless and you never get the option to change anything in the way you want it, always one set ending, no proper alt paths, everything usually the same, all dungeons having more or less the same set up, it felt so horrible XD Fallout New Vegas however... ho ho ho! There's a keeper, but thats because it was done by obsidian, not Bethesda.

I take if you're a console gamer. I don't mean that to come off as arrogant as it probably did but vanilla Skyrim has maybe 10 hours of fresh enjoyment in it, give or take a few hours. The mods are the only reason it continues to be installed on my computer. Granted, even with about a hundred mods installed, I play it very rarely. The mods can temporarily breath more life in to the game, but once you start fighting enemies you quickly go, "Oh right...that's why I stopped playing this game." Still, it gave me more enjoyment than New Vegas. Different strokes for different folks, but I hate the modern Fallout games and really had to force myself to finish New Vegas

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