Rumors of EA getting taken over?

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Dr. Dice Lord:

Dirty Hipsters:
It was nowhere near as bad as EA's microtransaction idea of paying $1 every time you need to reload in Battlefield.

Sorry but I can't take that seriously. The BF3 unlocks, while rather overpriced, aren't required to win. If you have any semblance of skill you can get all the "essential" vehicle unlocks in a day or even a couple hours, and at least a one full load out for each class. While I'm not a fan of vehicle unlocks like flares and such, the "experience treadmill" basically moves at a walking pace for the first few unlocks.

No offense intended, I'm just sick and tired of hearing people complain about the "pay to win" in BF3, when its not even approaching that. Not even on the same planet as that.

OP: I don't know how to feel about a Japanese company acquiring DICE and Bioware. Honestly I can't see them being any more "fair" than EA. I'd prefer to stick with the devil I know.

Not sure if you quoted the wrong guy or if you're just terrible at reading...

Zachary Amaranth:

Lunar Templar:
it's pretty funny isn't it

It'd be funnier if they weren't POSSIBLY being taken over by the microtransaction kings. Because EA+Maple Story tactics...*shudders*

>.> i have mixed feelings on this to be honest.

i mean yaeh Nexon doesn't handle the IPs they have very well, not even talking about Maple Story, that game sucks. I'm talking about Vindictus and Dungeon Fighter. they really aren't being handled well imo and its a shame cause they really are good games. but even in my relatively short time dealing with them they have gotten a little better (not saying much but there has been improvement), at least as far as Vin and DFO go (as those are the only two i play from them cause they don't suck)

on the other hand, EA has done a lot to make me hate them, and at this point they've come to represent everything wrong with the games industry so them going away and never coming back would really be ok with me, not say it'd be better under Nexon but they can hardly do worse

viranimus:
Well its not like Forbes would be one to quickly jump on rumor mills, but damn I got to belive this is bogus because Nexon? Really?

Im sorry, but if Nexon buys out EA, which I still do not think EA is any sort of bad shape to even consider selling, nor do I think Nexon actually has the overall clout to force this or even support it if it were to happen. But if they do, I guess I will not play another EA property because honestly Nexon is shit and built around a "lowest common denominator" principle that would make EA look principled.

Seriously, that proposition is bad for everyone involved, Gamers, consumers, developers, etc and would only serve to ruin what good EA has put forth

Its weird to me. I already have an active boycott against Ubisoft. Activision makes nothing I find interesting, If EA goes to Nexon thats another publisher off my list and THQ is struggling to stay afloat. Honestly who all does that leave? 2k and Square Enix? (publishers) Not promising.

EA has dropped from 50$ a share to 12$ before the rumor got out. Amusingly their stock dropped the same time SPORE was released and we all remember how well that went over. They've pretty much been in decline for the last five years or so and ME3 and The Old Republic really hasn't done much to save them. It also might not be optional. Nexon could try for a hostile takeover. It seems more likely that it would be a merger if anything. Nexon with their free to play experience and EA with their titles, triple A games, and desire for better working micro transactions.

EA going down the drain wouldn't be that bad really. Sure we might see less AAA games being pushed out but really that could be seen as a good thing since those games tend to overshadow everything else when they come out and having more attention to smaller developers and their games isn't bad. I mean without google can anyone give me a good list of what other games came out in the same month as Mass Effect 3?

Zachary Amaranth:
I'm not here to "hate," but I find it funny the only thing to spike EA stock prices is "someone else is going to be taking over."

That's typical actually. The idea is that part of a takeover is to buy existing shares of the stock. So people buy the stock while it's low to buy it when the takeover drives the prices up.

I don't see it happening. Nexon likely doesn't have the cash to buy EA outright, and any stock deals almost certainly won't happen.

Valve taking over EA one way or another is plausibly more likely than Nexon.

Thoraxe:
That would beautiful. With the way EA games sysmetacally gobbles up talented companies and turns them into shit, the idea that an even crappier company might absorbs them, is really delicious in its irony and its justice.

I hope they fire all the people at Bioware too.

Mac Walters is the only one that really deserves it. He's the one who took the franchise away from its original direction, he's the one who wrote the ending, he's probably the one responsible for the little kid fiasco. He used his position of head writer to bypass the peer review process that every other writer's work went through. He (maybe the person who gave him the position) should pay the full price.

Thoraxe:
I hope they fire all the people at Bioware too.

so they can start up a new developer? because otherwise thats alittle over the top

Pumpkin_Eater:

Thoraxe:
That would beautiful. With the way EA games sysmetacally gobbles up talented companies and turns them into shit, the idea that an even crappier company might absorbs them, is really delicious in its irony and its justice.

I hope they fire all the people at Bioware too.

Mac Walters is the only one that really deserves it. He's the one who took the franchise away from its original direction, he's the one who wrote the ending, he's probably the one responsible for the little kid fiasco. He used his position of head writer to bypass the peer review process that every other writer's work went through. He (maybe the person who gave him the position) should pay the full price.

I thourght that was casey hudosn

Vault101:

I thourght that was casey hudosn

I've heard that name too, but only in conjunction with Walters. So maybe two writers should get the axe?

Pumpkin_Eater:

Vault101:

I thourght that was casey hudosn

I've heard that name too, but only in conjunction with Walters. So maybe two writers should get the axe?

hudson is pretty much the head of Bioware I think

and that drew guy (who pretty much created ME) left...

..hmmmm

Vault101:

hudson is pretty much the head of Bioware I think

and that drew guy (who pretty much created ME) left...

..hmmmm

Drew Karpyshyr. His absence completely nullifies the artistic integrity rationale for preserving the ending. It's like Stephanie Meyer coauthored Two Towers and wrote Return of the King.

ultramarine486:
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EA has dropped from 50$ a share to 12$ before the rumor got out. Amusingly their stock dropped the same time SPORE was released and we all remember how well that went over. They've pretty much been in decline for the last five years or so and ME3 and The Old Republic really hasn't done much to save them. It also might not be optional. Nexon could try for a hostile takeover. It seems more likely that it would be a merger if anything. Nexon with their free to play experience and EA with their titles, triple A games, and desire for better working micro transactions.

EA going down the drain wouldn't be that bad really. Sure we might see less AAA games being pushed out but really that could be seen as a good thing since those games tend to overshadow everything else when they come out and having more attention to smaller developers and their games isn't bad. I mean without google can anyone give me a good list of what other games came out in the same month as Mass Effect 3?

Well not really refuting what youve said, though Nexon would do no better with EA properties, and would only do worse. Basically they would migrate as much as humanly possible into micro transaction models to which people will stop playing and in turn the properties will wilt away. Its not that I doubt it, its that It will be quite depressing if it does happen.

As for games in March... I dont use google for anything. Off the top of my head, Street Fighter x Tekken, I am alive, Yakuza DS, Silent hill Downpour, Silent Hill HDS rehash, Ninga Gaiden 3, RE: Operation Raccoon city. Though honestly im not sure if March was just mediocre this year or still realing from the painful backlog of 2011 titles.

ToTaL LoLiGe:
What if this new company is more evil than EA? EA could be transformed into some Frankinstein's monster made up of super evil.

Well I personally hate Nexon more than EA. Talk about abusing DLC all you want, at least you don't need to buy the DLC to beat the game. Nexon are that special kind of dickhead who think offering a game that's free to download but requires real-money bought items to get anywhere is a fantastic idea.

viranimus:

Well not really refuting what youve said, though Nexon would do no better with EA properties, and would only do worse. Basically they would migrate as much as humanly possible into micro transaction models to which people will stop playing and in turn the properties will wilt away. Its not that I doubt it, its that It will be quite depressing if it does happen.

As for games in March... I dont use google for anything. Off the top of my head, Street Fighter x Tekken, I am alive, Yakuza DS, Silent hill Downpour, Silent Hill HDS rehash, Ninga Gaiden 3, RE: Operation Raccoon city. Though honestly im not sure if March was just mediocre this year or still realing from the painful backlog of 2011 titles.

Well at this point it's just speculation. It could end up, and likely will be, really terrible but at the same time it could work on some degree. The target audience might end up shifting to focus to Korea instead of America meaning that EA wouldn't take over as many promising publishers like Bioware or Pandemic. It's hard to say at this point since we still have to wait and see if anything even comes of the rumor or if it is just smoke blowing.

This seems false. I don't believe there's any other gaming comapny bigger or eviller to take over EA.

ultramarine486:

EA has dropped from 50$ a share to 12$ before the rumor got out. Amusingly their stock dropped the same time SPORE was released and we all remember how well that went over. They've pretty much been in decline for the last five years or so and ME3 and The Old Republic really hasn't done much to save them. It also might not be optional. Nexon could try for a hostile takeover. It seems more likely that it would be a merger if anything. Nexon with their free to play experience and EA with their titles, triple A games, and desire for better working micro transactions.

EA going down the drain wouldn't be that bad really. Sure we might see less AAA games being pushed out but really that could be seen as a good thing since those games tend to overshadow everything else when they come out and having more attention to smaller developers and their games isn't bad. I mean without google can anyone give me a good list of what other games came out in the same month as Mass Effect 3?

Thing thing is Nexon couldnt afford to do a hostile takeover of EA. If anything they would have to be suggesting a merger of the two. EAs shares might be down but they are still to big of a company.

One thing you are forgetting is that EA finances and publishes games for a very large amount of small developers. You woudnt just see a drop in AAA games you would see a massive drop in everything.

Das Boot:

Thing thing is Nexon couldnt afford to do a hostile takeover of EA. If anything they would have to be suggesting a merger of the two. EAs shares might be down but they are still to big of a company.

One thing you are forgetting is that EA finances and publishes games for a very large amount of small developers. You woudnt just see a drop in AAA games you would see a massive drop in everything.

Voids in businesses get filled faster then you think. There might be a lull in the amount of games that come out but that would quickly fill as people start supporting other companies and helping them grow to fill the gap. Yes EA going out of business would be bad but it's not going to end the world. It might me we get less games for a short while but someone would quickly fill the gap of producer with large wads of cash since people want their AAA games and will pay for them regardless of who their producer is.

Lunar Templar:

on the other hand, EA has done a lot to make me hate them, and at this point they've come to represent everything wrong with the games industry so them going away and never coming back would really be ok with me, not say it'd be better under Nexon but they can hardly do worse

They really can do worse. Take the two business models and combine them in some beautiful amalgamation of horror.

I don't know if you remember the old "They got peanut butter in my chocolate" deal, but this is the opposite. This is "they got arsenic in my bleach slurpee."

Das Boot:

Thing thing is Nexon couldnt afford to do a hostile takeover of EA. If anything they would have to be suggesting a merger of the two. EAs shares might be down but they are still to big of a company.

That's not entirely true. It's been suggested they would become a minority owner in EA because they can't buy all their assets. However, this is still likely a stepping stone to an eventual takeover.

ultramarine486:

Voids in businesses get filled faster then you think. There might be a lull in the amount of games that come out but that would quickly fill as people start supporting other companies and helping them grow to fill the gap. Yes EA going out of business would be bad but it's not going to end the world. It might me we get less games for a short while but someone would quickly fill the gap of producer with large wads of cash since people want their AAA games and will pay for them regardless of who their producer is.

Voids don't always get filled fast, though. Publishers are less and less likely to take risks these days, and want large returns. We're not as likely to see that void filled quickly right now. Additionally, just the damage done to those smaller developers could end up killing a good chunk of those devs if they can't get a new publisher right away or pretty damn close to.

Combined with other factors in the current environment, this could be far more disastrous than it would if EA were to roll over and die in a vacuum.

This is all speculation, and I understand that a lot of my own comments hinge on the "maybes" and "ifs," but these are very real issues one way or t'other.

Zachary Amaranth:

Lunar Templar:

on the other hand, EA has done a lot to make me hate them, and at this point they've come to represent everything wrong with the games industry so them going away and never coming back would really be ok with me, not say it'd be better under Nexon but they can hardly do worse

They really can do worse. Take the two business models and combine them in some beautiful amalgamation of horror.

I don't know if you remember the old "They got peanut butter in my chocolate" deal, but this is the opposite. This is "they got arsenic in my bleach slurpee."

>.> well there is that. but I'd rather not think of a company TRYING to be worse then EA.

cause its depressing, and like i said, Nexon has gotten a little better in the short time i've had to deal with them.

catchpa: Slippery Slope
>.> oh shut up you

More Fun To Compute:
Are Nexon known for good customer service and customer friendly behaviour?

Can it get worse?

You know what's great about the micro transaction model? You don't have to pay $50-60 up front for a week's worth of video game, and then go "that was lame" AFTER they already got your money. Mcro transactions are far superior; they are the evolution of shareware.

It isn't perfect - but then what is? There will be games like CivWorld that attempt to be Pay2Win instead. But better competition for your gaming time & money is going to kill those off.

Okay, I'm confused. Nexon is a Korean company, not Japanese. Following the actual link shows that Forbes knows this, but they obviously didn't at the time of writing, because the URL clearly says "japans" in the place where the title of the article says "South Korea's."

As for the notion of Nexon buying EA, I didn't belieeve it at first, but considering that what the actual article says is that Nexon is buying up a bunch of stock in EA, that at least is plausible. Is it really a big enough company to buy a controlling share of a company like EA, though? That would be like Valve buying out Activision.

I for one think it would be a good thing EA are a bunch of morons and I used to play nexons maplestory and later mabinogi mmos overall they are a pretty nice company (my only major complatant is they are not good at bot control) i bet they could whip EA into shape and after mabinogi I would welcome a nexon console or non-mmo pc game

It already has... BY THE EVIL DEMI-GODS OF GAMING!!
Well this is interesting, might bring something new or then we won't even notice it.

Nexon isn't all that good. But they're not worse than EA that I'm aware.

In a happy world, happy for me at least, this would mean Nexon types of games and aesthetics would influence EA games. But I know better than to assume that would happen. Corporate takeovers rarely influence anything other than who the money goes to. Eidos is now owned by Square Enix, but their haven't changed at all. Also, Marvel was acquired by Disney, haven't seen much of anything change there.

If anything though, I would like to see South Korea become a bigger force in video game developing and publishing in general. Mostly right now they are known for anime style MMORPGs. But their manwha industry is growing and they are slowly starting to experiment beyond the online-only game industry.

I wish the best to that. Until now, about the only place for Eastern culture in the gaming world was Japan. Now South Korea and even China are slowly starting to contribute. I think that would be a good balance to the Western culture boom right now that is dominating things. And people would definitely have to start taking Asian style video games seriously again, if the West not only had to contend with Japan, but South Korea as well.

Why would anyone even want to buy EA?

If I were at the head of another publisher, all I would be interested in is getting some of EA's more popular IPs and nothing else.
That way you don't get weighted down with all the ugly baggage.

Zachary Amaranth:

This is all speculation, and I understand that a lot of my own comments hinge on the "maybes" and "ifs," but these are very real issues one way or t'other.

Certainly it could be disastrous for the gaming community as likely as it could be a good thing as you stated its all speculation right now. As it stands EA isn't likely to go anywhere anytime soon even with low stock. Companies don't just up and die in the space of a month or two. It often takes several years at least and for anyone following them it'll be painfully obvious.

Zachary Amaranth:

Das Boot:

Thing thing is Nexon couldnt afford to do a hostile takeover of EA. If anything they would have to be suggesting a merger of the two. EAs shares might be down but they are still to big of a company.

That's not entirely true. It's been suggested they would become a minority owner in EA because they can't buy all their assets. However, this is still likely a stepping stone to an eventual takeover.

The issue with that is that there is actually laws that prevent them from doing that. Once you initiate a hostile takeover you only have a limited amount of time to arrange for the required number of shares to be purchased. The reason for this is because if somebody was able to do a piece by piece takeover over a long period it would make that company an extremely risky investment and destroy its share price.

The other issue is that once you initiate a hostile takeover it drives the stock price of the company you are trying to takeover up a ton making the acquisition even harder. If you want an example just look at what happened to cadburys stock when I believe Kraft took them over a few years back. In order to get all the required shares Kraft had to offer over and above the inflated share price of Cadbury in a combination of Kraft shares and cash.

veloper:
Why would anyone even want to buy EA?

If I were at the head of another publisher, all I would be interested in is getting some of EA's more popular IPs and nothing else.
That way you don't get weighted down with all the ugly baggage.

TO CRUSH IT WITH A MIGHTY BOOT AND RIP THE GUTS OF EVIL...

ahem.

Your point is valid too. Either way, if you let EA do its thing for a few more years, there won't be many developers left. They swallow everything and spit it out rotten and useless. If EA were any bigger, they'd be endangering gaming as a medium. They're ruined so many studios and ideas.

CRUSH!

I don't hate EA and I don't know anything about Nexon.

As such, a buyout would make me nervous as it could potentially hamper what are otherwise some truly excellent games.

Also I'd hate to see Origin get scraped and my games from there lost because the other company doesn't want to continue the service. Extremely unlikely, I know, but still a concern.

Hero in a half shell:
Well here's Nexon's website: http://www.nexon.net/

It comes with the tagline:

"The best in free-to-play online games"
All Nexon games are completely free to download and play. The games are regularly updated with new content and are completely supported. Play for free, forever.

Oh sweet baby Batman, If they apply the EA franchises to their current business model I predict MICROTRANSACTIONS EVERYWHERE! Forget about feeling bad because of a 15 map pack, you'll be paying through the nose for everything!

This may be a case of better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Are you kidding? I want to see the chain-reaction of backlash from when Nexon starts milking AAA titles through EA.

I'm already resigned to the fact that gobs of idiots already keep such despicable companies in business (the sort of customer who complains and whines about getting nickeled-and-dimed yet keeps buying the games and DLC anyway).

Might as well get some entertainment out of watching them squirm even more.

It's no loss to me: I refuse to buy anything EA publishes.

There's a storm brewing, and none of us are prepared. Seriously, I have this nagging feeling that this is going to be bad, real bad.

ultramarine486:
EA has dropped from 50$ a share to 12$ before the rumor got out. Amusingly their stock dropped the same time SPORE was released and we all remember how well that went over. They've pretty much been in decline for the last five years or so and ME3 and The Old Republic really hasn't done much to save them.

I was wondering what would cause that big drop in late August '08.

Now if only Ubisoft's stock would collapse from constantly pushing ill-advised DRM.

Regardless, EA's stock has largely been stable post-Spore. Wouldn't surprise me if the drop was more of a correction than a near-collapse. EA just has too many franchises in their grasp to outright bottom out.

I have no opinion as I don't give a crap about corporate dealings. Well I guess I do care kinda. If they start firing people it means an increase in the unemployment rate and good people working in the corporate machine losing there jobs for reasons they can't control. That'd be bad. So long as they don't destroy the company though, I don't give a shit who runs it.

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