Apparently you can use one in Tera, is that correct? If one offered it and the other didn't that would make my choice easy.
As long as you could assign the keys, then yeah, I bet GW2 would be playable with a pad, or many-buttoned mouse. There's a limited suite of skills that need to be assigned.
Tera not so much, it has the same ability scope as games like WoW and Rift.
As someone who seriously looked into doing this, I'd advice against it. Let's look at the xbox 360 controller for example.
Left analog stick: movement Right analog stick: camera
So far so good but this is where it gets tricky. You still have 4 shoulder buttons and 4 action buttons on the right (X Y A B). And you should somehow fit 10 skills on them, plus buttons for weapon switch, jump and dodge? Not to mention the class-specific extra buttons like the elementalist's 4 element attunements. I guess you could use the 4 directional buttons on the left as 4 extra action buttons but there's a reason xbox games never do that: you can't press them while moving around since your thumb is on the left analog stick. It may not seem like a big deal but it's pretty inconvenient in the heat of battle.
And don't even get me started on navigating menus, your inventory or the auction house. And the biggest one of them all: typing!
Those last few issues are not combat related though, so I guess you could just use the pad exclusively during combat and keyboard + mouse otherwise. (Provided you somehow solve the problems I mentioned earlier) But that isn't really an option either when you, like me, were planning to hook your pc up to you tv with an HDMI cable and than play from the sofa with a wireless controller.
If any of you see a convenient solution to all this I'd be very happy to hear it. Personally, the only thing I can think of is buying a pc gamepad with more buttons than an xbox 360 controller. Or to "create" extra buttons through button combinations like "upper left shoulder button + A". But that still wouldn't solve the issues outside of combat and there's a fair chance that the button combo thing won't even be possible.
OT: GW2 all the way. Honestly I don't know much about TERA but it looks veeeery korean, wich is an instant no-no for me.
Lunar Templar: though from what i've heard on both sides, I'd probably play Tera. since some on described the combat as "Vindictus in an open world", which is 'do want' far as I'm concerned.
I've played Vindictus quite and bit and no, Tera is not Vindictus in an open world. It's all other MMO's but you can dodge and block. And miss your attacks (because you aim at something else, like the ground or a tree). Other than that it's not like Vindictus.
You can't grab anything, you can't do cool combos, you can't use the environment to your advantage, you can't trap a polar bear with chains. The combat you know from Vindictus is not in Tera.
>.> chains? on The White Tyrant? -.- why ..... none of them are hard enough to warrant the use of chains. unless your talking about the new one in the 'unknown zone', not bothered with anything but Elchulus of that set.
:/ but that kinda bums me out.
but least it'll save me a bunch a money
No, I only meant that's something you CAN do (use chains for example) in Vindictus but not in Tera. I was trying to point out a difference, not saying I would use chains on the polar bear. :P
nu1mlock: I knew someone would say that. You've obviously not tried Vindictus. Pressing 1, 2, 3 or 1, spacebar, spacebar, spacebar isn't the same as Vindictus combat and it's combos.
Feel free to look up Vindictus if you're interested. Point is Tera is NOT Vindictus with an open world, the combat is very different.
But I did play Vindictus. I don't remember what's so different about them. Maybe my memory is faulty. Which is why I asked. You don't seem intent on answering my question so whatever.
I'll be playing GW2, since I prefer the story, general aesthetic style and gameplay in it to TERA and it lacks a subscription fee. I find subscription fees ridiculous for most games these days, so TERA is not an option for me. I would go into more depth, but I'll leave it at that since I'm kinda busy with work.
Oh, and I also played the recent BWE for GW2 and it was fantastic, especially for a beta.
nu1mlock: I knew someone would say that. You've obviously not tried Vindictus. Pressing 1, 2, 3 or 1, spacebar, spacebar, spacebar isn't the same as Vindictus combat and it's combos.
Feel free to look up Vindictus if you're interested. Point is Tera is NOT Vindictus with an open world, the combat is very different.
But I did play Vindictus. I don't remember what's so different about them. Maybe my memory is faulty. Which is why I asked. You don't seem intent on answering my question so whatever.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way.
As I said, you can't take advantage of the environment in Tera the same way you an in Vindictus, you can't use spears or chains to cripple an enemy, you can't grab anything or anyone and you can't do the same kind of combos in Tera as you can in Vindictus.
And again, pressing button X and then spacebar, spacebar, spacebar is not a combo. It's a way to chain different skills without having to look up the correct button for it. You can manually add skills to chain. It's macroing, not combos.
Edit: Perhaps macro isn't the right word for it as macros usually are more automatic. Maybe a better term would be "chains", which they are also called in Tera. Not combos, chains of manually selected skills.
Walter Byers: Thanks for an actual answer. I can kinda understand. I still wouldn't call their hips that of a developed women.
Agree to disagree.
If you look at most preteen girls, their legs and waist are built like sticks. They're still undeveloped. The Ellin have a very flat and thin upper body, but their lower half flares out like the bottom of an hourglass. Those curves are developed during most girl's teen years when they become women.
Regardless, I think the whole controversy has been blown way out of proportion. I don't think it's crossed any moral boundaries, but it is off putting to some, and I can see why. In the end it's all aesthetics and personal preference.
I've played Vindictus quite and bit and no, Tera is not Vindictus in an open world. It's all other MMO's but you can dodge and block. And miss your attacks (because you aim at something else, like the ground or a tree). Other than that it's not like Vindictus.
You can't grab anything, you can't do cool combos, you can't use the environment to your advantage, you can't trap a polar bear with chains. The combat you know from Vindictus is not in Tera.
>.> chains? on The White Tyrant? -.- why ..... none of them are hard enough to warrant the use of chains. unless your talking about the new one in the 'unknown zone', not bothered with anything but Elchulus of that set.
:/ but that kinda bums me out.
but least it'll save me a bunch a money
No, I only meant that's something you CAN do (use chains for example) in Vindictus but not in Tera. I was trying to point out a difference, not saying I would use chains on the polar bear. :P
:p poor example then, since chaining Trolls and Kobolds (deep harrow frost) and Goblins are much more better.
ether way, still a bummer :/ i was looking for ward to playing Tera to
Devoneaux: Wait, do the prepubescent girls race have a male counterpart?
Here's what i found from the tera wiki. "the Elin and the animal-like Popori are listed as one race. This is because the Popori is not a singular race so much as a nation of woodland familiars and spirits. The means by which they procreate and have offspring is not like other beings who are purely flesh. Interviews with the producers of TERA Online have stated that the males are like woodland spirits and the females (Elin) are akin to dryads and nymphs." -From the Tera Wiki
But OT: definitely going with GW2 then i can still play SW:TOR for all 8 stories(got 2 done and 3 on the way, one of each advanced class for spice ;) ). and not have to pay monthly for GW2. Even though i have a hard time keeping up with two mmo's at once.
So the pre-pubescent cat girls have sex with beavers and dogs and bunny people?
what in the actual fuck...
Man.....Asians are weird.
OT: WINNER....GUILD WARS 2! Because you can have original design choices that aren't bizzare and profoundly stupid! Because you don't have a subscription! Because you can have male characters that don't wear V necks that go down to the crotch! Because you're questing is better! Because the pvp is better! Because other things! Yay guild wars 2......
Crazy Zaul: The problem with GW2 is that cos there is no endgame as such, its just scaling your stats down and doing the leveling content again, I suspect you have to play it extremely casually to avoid the dynamic events feeling samey. And once you're bored of dynamic events, that's it, your done with the game cos there are only 7 dungeons in the entire game. (Explorable mode does not count as a separate dungeon.)
So, despite offering different maps, different layouts, different assets, different challenges, and different storylines, they don't count as "different"? Wat.
Furthermore, there is an "Endgame" as we've come to know them. However, on top of that End Game, you can also go and see what the rest of the world has to offer that you "missed" climbing to the top.
World of Warcraft would have been a LOT better if I could have "Gone back" with my Level 85 Worgen Warrior and explored and played in the rest of the world, the stuff I failed to do (Such as all of Kalimdor, and everywhere in Outland that isn't Nagrand or Hellfire Peninsula)... and then do some of the Classic raids of Yesteryear, such as Molten Core and Upper Blackrock Spire. As it was, I scurried to avoid overleveling through Stranglethorn.
And "Random Events will become samey" is less likely to happen (And will have less severe repercussions) than being out of Unique Quests and having nothing left to do but grind dailies waiting for the next content patch.
So the pre-pubescent cat girls have sex with beavers and dogs and bunny people?
what in the actual fuck...
No, no they do not. They don't have sex at all. They may form strong bonds with each other, but it's not sexual, and probably reproduce by spontaneous generation and maybe magic dust.
GW2 meanwhile, I was not wowed with the 2 days i played, the lag, bugs and stuttering affected my enjoyment and while I know it will probably be fixed, I have have to use it to judge it now. In addition it seemed too easy to suddenly die and then trying to figure out how to win at that mini game type thing was horrible, These are problem that could of been alleviated if there was anything to explain game mechanics, I like figuring out things for myself, like skillchains in FFXI, but I don't like getting blindsided by mandatory things that shouldn't be a secret. Other then that my only gripe is that combat lacked weight.
Note that's not the same as lacking complexity, but i never felt like what i was doing was actually affecting the monsters, they barely reacted when I used a big attack that wiped out half their health and my auto-attack gave me the impression I was shooting gumballs at them with a slingshot rather than rapidly shooting them with a gun. I'm not complaining about the damage or anything mechanical, but rather something cosmetic that kept me from connecting with the game itself. I would use my blowtorch skill and wouldn't be sure if I hit the enemy or completely missed and wasn't sure if it mattered and thats when I started feeling like I was wasting time.
I came away from GW2 beta weekend with a negative impression but then I think about everything else it has and I really want to play it, I just hope my issues are cleaned up at launch and aren't considered finished.
All I can say is Beta is Beta, this is a true Beta for the game that's why you're playing to break the game and find bugs,make suggestions if things weren't clear, to be honest you should have gotten on the Beta forums and put up suggestions if you thought a tutorial was lacking. I know a lot of MMOs treat their Beta events like a free trial before launch but as I said this is a real Traditional Beta and yes there will be lag and server problems, next Beta Weekend Event will probably be more streamlined (server wise), they learned a tonne from this last one. You should hang in there and take part in the next one and if there are problems jump on the forums they have to leave a suggestion for them, they will take it in if enough people jump behind it. :)
I like my porn and my games to be mutually exclusive experiences. Watching models in bathing suits passionately slapping each other is all well and good, but it shouldn't be part of an epic fantasy tale.
Yeah, some of the more human races err a bit on the overly sexualized/pretty. But that tends to be the exception in GW2- it's the rule in TERA.
Emiscary: I like my porn and my games to be mutually exclusive experiences. Watching models in bathing suits passionately slapping each other is all well and good, but it shouldn't be part of an epic fantasy tale.
Yeah, some of the more human races err a bit on the overly sexualized/pretty. But that tends to be the exception in GW2- it's the rule in TERA.
I wish the Charr would have more outfits that went for sexualized and Pretty in GW2.
On the subject of paedophilia as the one negative to TERAs many positives, I'd like to point to the fable of Jones the Sheepshagger:
Jones the Sheepshagger is sitting in the corner of the pub, crying into his beer and bemoaning his fate. “Did you see that library in the town square?” he asks a passing stranger. “I built that, with my own hands. But do they call me Jones the Book? They do not.
“And that hospital on the hill? When I sold my business, I donated that out of the kindness of my heart. Half of my profits it took. But do they call me Jones the Doc? They do not.
“Look at the school, the finest educational establishment in all Wales. It was nothing before I came here. A patch of land. I paid for it all. But do they call me Jones the teacher? They do not.
Well, yes and no. They've tweaked enough that it feels relatively "fresh" and different, but they've not re-invented the wheel here. If EQ was version 1.0, and WoW and it's army of cheerful imitations was version 1.2, this is version 1.5 or 1.6, not version 2.0.
This, finally someone gets it.
OT: GW2 by virtue of not trying to win me into buying it with my penis. (Which isn't working at all, actually its making me feel a bit...uncomfortable)
WoW Killer: On the subject of paedophilia as the one negative to TERAs many positives, I'd like to point to the fable of Jones the Sheepshagger:
Jones the Sheepshagger is sitting in the corner of the pub, crying into his beer and bemoaning his fate. “Did you see that library in the town square?” he asks a passing stranger. “I built that, with my own hands. But do they call me Jones the Book? They do not.
“And that hospital on the hill? When I sold my business, I donated that out of the kindness of my heart. Half of my profits it took. But do they call me Jones the Doc? They do not.
“Look at the school, the finest educational establishment in all Wales. It was nothing before I came here. A patch of land. I paid for it all. But do they call me Jones the teacher? They do not.
“I fuck one sheep . . .”
Everyone loves to tell that story when they talk about something's good qualities being overlooked. But be honest- if you knew Jones the Sheepshagger (alternatively Charles the Goatfucker, James the Sheepshanker and a few other things...) you'd be calling him a Sheepshagger and giving him dirty looks with everyone else.
I have TERA because I was intrigued by the combat system, but I'm quickly realizing it's shit. Their attempt to make it "combat-action!!!" actually slows the combat down compared to other MMOs. They added the requirement to aim but for some ungodly reason decided attacks should only be used while standing still or a very casual walk. Granted, this is from my early experience, but from what I've heard it doesn't get a whole lot better the higher up you get.
GW2 meanwhile, I was not wowed with the 2 days i played, the lag, bugs and stuttering affected my enjoyment and while I know it will probably be fixed, I have have to use it to judge it now. In addition it seemed too easy to suddenly die and then trying to figure out how to win at that mini game type thing was horrible, These are problem that could of been alleviated if there was anything to explain game mechanics, I like figuring out things for myself, like skillchains in FFXI, but I don't like getting blindsided by mandatory things that shouldn't be a secret. Other then that my only gripe is that combat lacked weight.
Note that's not the same as lacking complexity, but i never felt like what i was doing was actually affecting the monsters, they barely reacted when I used a big attack that wiped out half their health and my auto-attack gave me the impression I was shooting gumballs at them with a slingshot rather than rapidly shooting them with a gun. I'm not complaining about the damage or anything mechanical, but rather something cosmetic that kept me from connecting with the game itself. I would use my blowtorch skill and wouldn't be sure if I hit the enemy or completely missed and wasn't sure if it mattered and thats when I started feeling like I was wasting time.
I came away from GW2 beta weekend with a negative impression but then I think about everything else it has and I really want to play it, I just hope my issues are cleaned up at launch and aren't considered finished.
All I can say is Beta is Beta, this is a true Beta for the game that's why you're playing to break the game and find bugs,make suggestions if things weren't clear, to be honest you should have gotten on the Beta forums and put up suggestions if you thought a tutorial was lacking. I know a lot of MMOs treat their Beta events like a free trial before launch but as I said this is a real Traditional Beta and yes there will be lag and server problems, next Beta Weekend Event will probably be more streamlined (server wise), they learned a tonne from this last one. You should hang in there and take part in the next one and if there are problems jump on the forums they have to leave a suggestion for them, they will take it in if enough people jump behind it. :)
Thanks for repeating what i addressed in the post, I said its not final, that everything was a work in progress but i have to judge it on what they gave me at the time. Asking people to base information off of something that may possibly exist in the future is unrealistic and is what raises expectations too high, which results in the population crash like what SWtor experienced when the "future content" wasn't there. Lets keep this topic on whats in the games rather then what we want in the game.
I haven't seen anything on Guild Wars 2, if I'm honest. Also, my only MMO experience was playing World of Warcraft on and off for two months in eighth grade. So don't expect some expert opinion from me.
I currently use a Mac, so neither of these games are options for me, but TERA looks really fun, because I really like action-RPGs. I'll probably be picking it up when I have a PC.
Honestly, if I were you I'd try them both. Maybe you could hop on one of your friend's TERA accounts and give yourself a demo. Since you seem inclined to do so already, pick up GW2 when it releases, and due to the lack of a subscription fee, you won't feel like you should play it however often to get your money's worth out of the game, in the event you don't enjoy it as much as you're hoping to.
I'm planning to play both. It looks like I'll have more fun exploring GW2, but more fun actually killing things in Tera. But then I'm a lifelong tank, and playing a Lancer in Tera is like actually fucking tanking things. I love it so much.
It's not going to be for everyone... it feels very Korean, and the obvious character design choices won't sit well with some people. Maybe my years of FFXI left me more receptive to eastern styles, because basically nothing in it fazes me, and I just love the monster designs.
If you can't find hentai on the internets then Tera is the game for you, but you will be sick and tired of grinding 30 minutes in, they do nothing to mask the "collect X number of Y".
GW2 as an all around package is the far better game, and there will be plenty of content to chew on, there was also never a shortage of updates with GW. People just spev random ignorant remarks when hearing F2P, this game is not that, you do pay for the game/subscription when you first purchase, you just aren't hustled on time to drag you into the next month for the next payment.
Tera doesn't have a playable race of 8-10ft tall Cat-People with horns, so GW2 wins for me. I love Charr, they're just so cool.
*Arenanet design meeting* It's like "What could we possibly do to make cats more awesome?" "Give them magic, armour and weapons?" "Hmm, no we need something else..." "Horns!" "That's great Barry! Have a raise!" */Arenanet design meeting*
Tera has too many scantily clad prepubescent girls.
GW 2, doesn't.
GW 2 wins.
There ya' go.
Alright, to get to the core.
Tera has a shitty combat system that is basically WoW + a dodge button.
Guild Wars 2 has its dodge mechanic as a core gameplay and is much more fluid.
GW2 wins.
tony2077: i haven't play either and i don't want to risk the money to buy either of them so i hope a trial for them comes out soon
Off the Bat Guild Wars 2 is cheaper then Tera because it has only a one time purchase thing at 60$, Tera will cost you more at about 15$ a month plus the box itself, so yes, if you get 60$, buy Guild Wars 2.
I'm not getting Tera, the combat had me slightly interested but the routine quest structure is a big problem and leaving control of class trainers, travel routes and gold sinks to the hubris of the biggest guilds is an absolute deal breaker.
Everything about Guild Wars 2 on the other hand sounds amazing, even the lack of a monthly fee is something I'd pay money for. Pay monthly MMOs are so packed with filler they hold no interest to me at all. If Guild Wars 2 doesn't try and bully me into playing awful content over and over again in order that I can keep paying a monthly fee then that could be the best thing about it.
BabySinclair: Tera's combat from what I've heard relies on movement and preemptive healing (blocking and dodging.) GW2 does the same thing, but with no trinity and self sufficient professions.
Tera has a $15(month)-$9(year) (prices shown by monthly cost) subscription fee on top of $40 game. So the game +3 months (I'm assuming are free) is $40. GW2 is $60. Every month after makes Tera cost closer to $12-$9 dollars. So 1 year +3 free months cost minimum $147-$159. GW2 for box and expansion (assuming within a year) $120.
Also, better quests/events in GW2 so that's where my money's going.
(Scantly-clad loli race is a turn off.)
most MMOs only give the first 30 days free (not sure if this is the case here), so more like $70 for the first 3 months.
for me, GW2 is screaming out for me to buy it. it seems to be that they realised what needed fixing in the MMO genre, and just did it. questing a bit of a grind? no problem, we'll give you better quests other than kill x 10 times. we'll also make it so you can complete the same quest in different ways reached a high level before you finish an area? well, how about we make you scale to the area, so you always feel challenged in the gameplay combat just pressing 11223542234211? we'll give you a more dynamic combat system with dodging aswell people stealing your kills? no problem, loot and XP is now shared, promoting cooperation want endgame PvP without grinding for weeks to get there? we'll boost you up to endgame level for PvP, so no more grinding for you! don't want to feel obliged to play a lot because it costs you each month? too bad... ha, just kidding, you pay for the game, then that is it. you are free to buy cosmetic items and our expansion packs when they are released, otherwise, enjoy our game
i mean these are just a few examples of why i left MMOs, and why GW2 will welcome me back with open arms. i cannot fucking wait
Not sure about GW2, I may have a look at it when it's been released.
As for TERA. It actully looks kinda fun, the combat doesn't seem too bad and the visuals are nice. I only watched one gameplay video but the skybox was beautiful. I am not part of the crowd that thinks the Elin are pedo bait so I could care less about them, they actully look kinda cute. Im also fine with the other characters so I would like to play it.
However I am completely thrown off by the subscription fee. If they ever get rid of that and make it F2P or only charge me once to buy it then I will give it a go but i'll hold off untill something like that happens.
Oh dear, a thread with "Tera" in the title... please don't be about... *reads half of the first page* Shit.
Come on people. Every time Tera is brought up, people will start endless discussions about that whole Elin nonsense. Stop it. Just... stop it, please?
OT: Guild Wars 2 is far more interesting to me. Sure, Tera looks neat, but subscription fees are evil. I've also already pre-purchased the collector's edition for GW2.
I've had the chance to play a bit of GW2 at a friend's place last beta weekend, since my copy wasn't here yet. I can say I love it, a lot. It has its flaws, but what's there, is great.
Sadly, I haven't had the chance to play Tera yet, because they don't offer free trials, and I don't intend to just buy the game and pay for a sub.
Greyah: Oh dear, a thread with "Tera" in the title... please don't be about... *reads half of the first page* Shit.
Come on people. Every time Tera is brought up, people will start endless discussions about that whole Elin nonsense. Stop it. Just... stop it, please?
OT: Guild Wars 2 is far more interesting to me. Sure, Tera looks neat, but subscription fees are evil. I've also already pre-purchased the collector's edition for GW2.
I've had the chance to play a bit of GW2 at a friend's place last beta weekend, since my copy wasn't here yet. I can say I love it, a lot. It has its flaws, but what's there, is great.
Sadly, I haven't had the chance to play Tera yet, because they don't offer free trials, and I don't intend to just buy the game and pay for a sub.
They should not even be there to begin with then. I was curious and took a look at the tera races from their main page and found this little gem when I looked at Elin
To even look at that kind of makes my stomach squirm, as it was way worse then I expected. It basically looks like a 5 year old girl with cat ears ... It's quite disturbing, and if that is the first impression they want of the race to be I'll pass because I just don't want to ever have to be subject to that while spending free time. And thats a shame too, because the monsters do look quite good.
I don't see how using the argument that they probably only make up 10% of the tera population as an excuse, they should not even look like that to begin with. The only issue I have with trying the game is only that race and that's their problem not mine as they are the ones who created the problem to begin with.
Greyah: Oh dear, a thread with "Tera" in the title... please don't be about... *reads half of the first page* Shit.
Come on people. Every time Tera is brought up, people will start endless discussions about that whole Elin nonsense. Stop it. Just... stop it, please?
OT: Guild Wars 2 is far more interesting to me. Sure, Tera looks neat, but subscription fees are evil. I've also already pre-purchased the collector's edition for GW2.
I've had the chance to play a bit of GW2 at a friend's place last beta weekend, since my copy wasn't here yet. I can say I love it, a lot. It has its flaws, but what's there, is great.
Sadly, I haven't had the chance to play Tera yet, because they don't offer free trials, and I don't intend to just buy the game and pay for a sub.
They should not even be there to begin with then. I was curious and took a look at the tera races from their main page and found this little gem when I looked at Elin
To even look at that kind of makes my stomach squirm, as it was way worse then I expected. It basically looks like a 5 year old girl with cat ears ... It's quite disturbing, and if that is the first impression they want of the race to be I'll pass because I just don't want to ever have to be subject to that while spending free time. And thats a shame too, because the monsters do look quite good.
I don't see how using the argument that they probably only make up 10% of the tera population as an excuse, they should not even look like that to begin with. The only issue I have with trying the game is only that race and that's their problem not mine as they are the ones who created the problem to begin with.
I'm really not sure what's so offensive about them. They aren't quite kids, and while they don't wear much, they carry a more "natural" and "graceful" beauty to them than a "sexual" one. Also, they look pretty kickass in action as well.
Honestly, the impression I got from TERA Online (or at least the 20 minutes I got to play on my friend's computer) was as a korean attempted rip-off of Rift which tried to copy Guild Wars 2's combat system, albeit fairly unsuccessfully. I mean, this is obviously a somewhat blunt (and perhaps unfair?) comparison, but it is honestly the impression I got from the near-half hour of gameplay I allotted.
Guild Wars 2, on the other hand, seems to be trying new things and going in new directions, at least with the things which matter. The 'Golden Trinity' is no longer holding players back from having fun, you no longer have to grind or 'farm the best gear' just to be on-par with everyone else in PvP, and you don't have to wait half an hour to start a dungeon just because you're lacking a 'priest' class or a 'tank' class. I will admit I am biased, though, since I did already pre-purchase the game and was in the last weekend beta event (and it was awesome lol).
For me, Guild Wars 2 wins by default, just because they got rid of the necessity for the 'big three', and replaced them with three of their own. The difference is, any class and fill in any role, be it support, control, or damage.
Plus, Free-To-Play compared to a subscription is a really sweet bargaining chip, as well. lol
BabySinclair: Tera has a $15(month)-$9(year) (prices shown by monthly cost) subscription fee on top of $40 game. So the game +3 months (I'm assuming are free) is $40. GW2 is $60. Every month after makes Tera cost closer to $12-$9 dollars. So 1 year +3 free months cost minimum $147-$159. GW2 for box and expansion (assuming within a year) $120.
most MMOs only give the first 30 days free (not sure if this is the case here), so more like $70 for the first 3 months.
I'm thinking that the battle system of Tera is better. But that the political system of Guild Wars 2 is vastly superior to that of Tera.
The Elin don't really bother me. If paedophiles could just look at stuff like the Elin or young looking adults and be happy with that, we'd live in a world free of child rape. Seriously, people can like what they like. If they aren't harming children I have no say in it.
That's kind of dodgy, dude...
One scantily clad prepubescent girl is too many...