Most deadly fighting force in the world today?

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The CIA's hand-picked, battle-tested A-teams currently operating in Pakistan and Qatar.

*cough* I mean...SAS and Navy Seals...yeah.

Xpwn3ntial:

Ultratwinkie:
If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

A single Spartan can end a war.

Space Marines can't.

The enemies of the Space Marine are infinite and immortal.

Spartans can't face immortals on a daily basis, nor face infinite enemies.

pirate ninja zombies
they are a epidemic

Paragon Fury:
US Air and Naval forces.

There is literally not a single air or naval force on the planet that poses a threat to the US Air Force(s) and Navy. Not even our allies. And when you can't control the sky or the water, your ground forces don't mean squat.

Though, when it comes to ground forces, its a monkey shit fight really.

Pretty much this. On a soldier-to-soldier basis, many fighting forces around the globe are on equal footing; only besting others on one aspect or another.

However, there really are no other military forces equivalent to the US Navy and the US Air Force.

Ultratwinkie:
The enemies of the Space Marine are infinite and immortal.

Spartans can't face immortals on a daily basis, nor face infinite enemies.

Details, details.

OT: I just realized I never contributed to the thread. I'm going with Israeli special forces.

MrPeanut:
How do you expect to win when 7 different, technologically superior factions numbering in hundreds of trillions, try to rape you from all sides?

Seriously, id like to see Spartans try go up against that.

They did, it's called Halo.

octafish:
While I would feel bad if the SASR didn't get a mention, special forces are pansies. Gurkha FTW. Big guy with a scowl and a small knife vs small guy with a smile and a fucking huge knife. Put your money on the Gurkha every time.

Yeah, I have to go with the Gurkha as well.

I mean this guy:
http://xnepali.net/a-gurkha-soldier-who-fought-40-train-robbers-to-be-felicitated-in-the-republic-day-of-india/

He fights of 30 train robbers who were about to rape a woman with just his knife. Killed 3, injured 8...the rest fled.

And then this guy:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/859087-gurkha-who-fought-off-30-taliban-by-himself-awarded-honour

Fights off 30 Taliban by himself...and after he uses up all his ammo and grenades? Attacks one with a sandbag before bludgeoning him with a machine gun tripod.

Gurkas. Most badass.

Freechoice:

Terminate421:

SckizoBoy:

Well, Space Marines are bred (after a fashion) for war...

And in case you didn't get the joke: whose Marines are you talking about? Virtually every major national armed forces has a Marine branch. I'ma say Royal Marines on your behalf.

Well if we're doing the Space marines than the Spartans from Halo are the greatest. They're pretty much the definition if ass-kicking soldiers.

I blame the fact that I don't like the look or the concept of warhammer 40k. War isn't glorious, it must have an end. Halo has an end.

Where the fuck have you been? Halo 4 is coming out this year. That shit'll never end as long as fanboys will buy the adventures of Master Chief and his aesthetically schizophrenic sidetits.

Kahunaburger:
a shitton of money for warfare.

It's all modernized too. That'd be a pretty cool game about warfare in the modern era.

I should edit my damned post, I meant that they wanted to end the damned war.

The Mobile Trench Brigade.

Ultratwinkie:

Terminate421:

SckizoBoy:

Well, Space Marines are bred (after a fashion) for war...

And in case you didn't get the joke: whose Marines are you talking about? Virtually every major national armed forces has a Marine branch. I'ma say Royal Marines on your behalf.

Well if we're doing the Space marines than the Spartans from Halo are the greatest. They're pretty much the definition if ass-kicking soldiers.

I blame the fact that I don't like the look or the concept of warhammer 40k. War isn't glorious, it must have an end. Halo has an end.

If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

The idea, hell, the goal of war is to take down the other side not farm war for fun forever. The Spartans were pretty much doing that job for the humans.

I'm not one to argue but.....yeah

BlazeRaider:

Ectoplasmicz:

hazabaza1:
Ninja bears.
They're fuckin' everywhere. We just can't see them.

I was thinking more along the lines of laser bears ...

That picture is unaccurate, I've scene lazer Bear, and he's canadian.

http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Lazer_Bear

*best rts evah! (not counting total wars)

I'll give you that one, you brought a lot of good memories back.

Heronblade:

Terminate421:

SckizoBoy:
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Wow, agreement with someone about that.

I think thats the one thing that also pulls me wrong about Warhammer 40k, the power armor is just too over the top. The helmets can look cool at times but outside of that, its supposed to be armor, not a fucking car.

Even with Gears of war, it looks like their armor is used to protect them rather than make them look tougher.

Fictional wise, I'd say the Spartans from Halo are the greatest soldiers

But real world, I'll go with the Marines. The SEALS, Spetsnaz, SAS, are all tough but from what I can gather, the Marines go all the way and then some.

You know what really bothers me about the 40k Space Marines? All that ridiculous armor, and their commanders never seem to wear a helmet. Seriously, they're just begging for some sniper to blow their brains out.

My god....I just now realized that......

Their using guns the size of tanks and some think not to wear a helmet? Thats pretty nutty.

CSOR. They're like SFOD-D but with their own arty, vehicles, office staff, etc.

Terminate421:

Ultratwinkie:

Terminate421:

Well if we're doing the Space marines than the Spartans from Halo are the greatest. They're pretty much the definition if ass-kicking soldiers.

I blame the fact that I don't like the look or the concept of warhammer 40k. War isn't glorious, it must have an end. Halo has an end.

If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

The idea, hell, the goal of war is to take down the other side not farm war for fun forever. The Spartans were pretty much doing that job for the humans.

I'm not one to argue but.....yeah

That's because we haven't had a war with something infinite. The only thing that is close is the war on illness and disease.

I am going to go with the US Navy. Nukes aircraft carriers you know stuff like that.

Ebola. You can't really say its a fighting force per se, that would imply the other side has a chance of winning.

The Avengers, with the Spetsnaz a close second.

Ultratwinkie:

Xpwn3ntial:

Ultratwinkie:
If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

A single Spartan can end a war.

Space Marines can't.

The enemies of the Space Marine are infinite and immortal.

Spartans can't face immortals on a daily basis, nor face infinite enemies.

Obviously you haven't played firefight in Halo Reach.

Jokes aside, the US Airforce cannot be defeated.

The Cassowary brigade.
You probably may not have heard about them. They are just that good at what they do. And what they do is disembowelment, and secrecy.

As a former member of the US military... I say Mossad. Nobody gets as much combat experience as they do with that level of training.

octafish:
While I would feel bad if the SASR didn't get a mention, special forces are pansies. Gurkha FTW. Big guy with a scowl and a small knife vs small guy with a smile and a fucking huge knife. Put your money on the Gurkha every time.

About time someone mentioned the Gurkhas. And, as second-best, I'd say the U.S. L.R.R.P.s, since they were essentially the stealthy counterpart to the Army RANGERS.

But, most definitely Gurkhas, all the way. Cool under fire, polite, nicest guys you'll ever meet. But also the most dangerous to go against, especially with their Kukris. Yes, the knife that puts the Bowie to shame, and is possibly the best combat knife in existence.

Texas Joker 52:

octafish:
While I would feel bad if the SASR didn't get a mention, special forces are pansies. Gurkha FTW. Big guy with a scowl and a small knife vs small guy with a smile and a fucking huge knife. Put your money on the Gurkha every time.

About time someone mentioned the Gurkhas. And, as second-best, I'd say the U.S. L.R.R.P.s, since they were essentially the stealthy counterpart to the Army RANGERS.

But, most definitely Gurkhas, all the way. Cool under fire, polite, nicest guys you'll ever meet. But also the most dangerous to go against, especially with their Kukris. Yes, the knife that puts the Bowie to shame, and is possibly the best combat knife in existence.

To be fair to the Bowie the Kukri is bordering on "short sword" territory. Just be sure to give a Gurkha a camera if you want proof of a kill, you might not like what they bring back otherwise.

Terminate421:

Ultratwinkie:

Terminate421:

Well if we're doing the Space marines than the Spartans from Halo are the greatest. They're pretty much the definition if ass-kicking soldiers.

I blame the fact that I don't like the look or the concept of warhammer 40k. War isn't glorious, it must have an end. Halo has an end.

If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

The idea, hell, the goal of war is to take down the other side not farm war for fun forever. The Spartans were pretty much doing that job for the humans.

I'm not one to argue but.....yeah

How do you expect to win when 7 different, technologically superior factions numbering in hundreds of trillions, try to rape you from all sides?

Seriously, id like to see Spartans try go up against that.

MrPeanut:

Terminate421:

Ultratwinkie:

If spartans cannot hold in a war indefinitely, they are not real bad asses.

Space Marines can.

The idea, hell, the goal of war is to take down the other side not farm war for fun forever. The Spartans were pretty much doing that job for the humans.

I'm not one to argue but.....yeah

How do you expect to win when 7 different, technologically superior factions numbering in hundreds of trillions, try to rape you from all sides?

Seriously, id like to see Spartans try go up against that.

Well, one spartan managed to take on entire combination of various races under one belief and live. Also he took on the flood.

At least give the Spartans that.

Besides, this thread is about IRL

octafish:

Texas Joker 52:

octafish:
While I would feel bad if the SASR didn't get a mention, special forces are pansies. Gurkha FTW. Big guy with a scowl and a small knife vs small guy with a smile and a fucking huge knife. Put your money on the Gurkha every time.

About time someone mentioned the Gurkhas. And, as second-best, I'd say the U.S. L.R.R.P.s, since they were essentially the stealthy counterpart to the Army RANGERS.

But, most definitely Gurkhas, all the way. Cool under fire, polite, nicest guys you'll ever meet. But also the most dangerous to go against, especially with their Kukris. Yes, the knife that puts the Bowie to shame, and is possibly the best combat knife in existence.

To be fair to the Bowie the Kukri is bordering on "short sword" territory. Just be sure to give a Gurkha a camera if you want proof of a kill, you might not like what they bring back otherwise.

Well, that's definitely a surefire way to go, "Yeah, we got the guy. Here's his head, its a visual match. Tests say DNA match too. And hey, without his head, we know he's dead!".

As for that article, however, I don't think he should face disciplinary action at all. He was doing his job, doing it well, and doing it the only way he knew how. In a firefight, there isn't a lot of time for deep thought on how to make sure you can identify a deceased, high-profile target. Not only that, he was dead before he was beheaded. Quite frankly, I doubt that he cares about his body now, wherever he may be.

Define "deadly".

As mentioned, nuclear weaponry tends to overshadow much else.

That_Sneaky_Camper:
they have a well-earned reputation starting as far back as World War II.

Except the SAS hadn't been founded yet. People who were involved in WW2 ended up in the SAS, though.

...

Oh, and IIRC, "Spetsnaz" doesn't mean "Special Forces" the way some people seem to think it does, it means "special forces", in it's most literal sense. As in, not the same as the other units. Special Forces are included in that, but then so are other specialised units we don't think of the same way.

And, the USMC (as a whole) doesn't compare to Special Forces, because that's not what it's there for. British Royal Marine's, as I understand it, do, but they are totally different and just have a somewhat similar name.

Well, one of the better ones in the world are SASR, from Australia.
I am not just saying this because I am Australian either.

Texas Joker 52:
About time someone mentioned the Gurkhas. And, as second-best, I'd say the U.S. L.R.R.P.s, since they were essentially the stealthy counterpart to the Army RANGERS.

As an aside, the LLRPs was inspired by the Australian SASR.

What's the LLRP? The long looooooong range patrol? I like Devgru, they are some crazy bastids, and I'm sure CIASOG get up to some shennanigans as well.

I suppose I would have to go with either the Special Air Service (SAS) or the Navy Seals (Specifically Seal Team Six). I heard the Spetsnaz are pretty good at what they do.

Terminate421:

SckizoBoy:

Terminate421:
Well if we're doing the Space marines than the Spartans from Halo are the greatest. They're pretty much the definition if ass-kicking soldiers.

I blame the fact that I don't like the look or the concept of warhammer 40k. War isn't glorious, it must have an end. Halo has an end.

A couple things... the first bit, yeah, they are the definition of 'ass-kicking soldiers' while Spehss Muhreens look rather cumbersome and look more like the definition of 'ass-dragging soldiers'. However, their fluff makes them ridiculous, power-level-wise (and I'm not a Halo fan, so I'm in no position to judge whether or not they're better). 'sides, I'm an Eldar player, so I go with 'Quins any day, despite the fact they're not soldiers.

And hey, GW can't have its cash-cow dying out can it?! -_- The war must go on! *grrr*

Wow, agreement with someone about that.

I think thats the one thing that also pulls me wrong about Warhammer 40k, the power armor is just too over the top. The helmets can look cool at times but outside of that, its supposed to be armor, not a fucking car.

Even with Gears of war, it looks like their armor is used to protect them rather than make them look tougher.

Fictional wise, I'd say the Spartans from Halo are the greatest soldiers

But real world, I'll go with the Marines. The SEALS, Spetsnaz, SAS, are all tough but from what I can gather, the Marines go all the way and then some.

really?...really!?

Batman.

Seriously no one has said Batman? You disappoint me Internet!

Texas Joker 52:

But, most definitely Gurkhas, all the way. Cool under fire, polite, nicest guys you'll ever meet. But also the most dangerous to go against, especially with their Kukris. Yes, the knife that puts the Bowie to shame, and is possibly the best combat knife in existence.

And it's no coincidence that one of the best combat knives is specifically designed to hack off limbs

Gekford:
Australia or Israel have the best small armies in the world man for man they are significantly better then say the US or China. America how ever easily has the best tech in the world which gives them a huge advatage. As for individual units the Australian SAS are the best by far closely followed buy the brits. SEALS get a good rap but have the huge technical backing of the US behind them so they tend not to be as good as either SAS for individual skills

That's my problem with the US army, your superior technology and numbers always seem to make for very sloppy grunts. Whereas in Israel or here we make do with buying slightly older tech and spend our time trying to make sure our soldiers are up to scratch. Then again, the US tends to use its armed forces very differently to Israel and Australia

thaluikhain:
Define "deadly".

As mentioned, nuclear weaponry tends to overshadow much else.

That_Sneaky_Camper:
they have a well-earned reputation starting as far back as World War II.

Except the SAS hadn't been founded yet. People who were involved in WW2 ended up in the SAS, though.

The SAS was founded in 1941 by David Stirling during WWII.

Probably go with them as well

Garen Truscott:
How about the Spartans (the real ones from Sparta) if you are going to get historical.

I have a feeling spartans versus common soldiers today wouldn't stand much of a chance.
Guns an all.

Anyway, US army seems to be pretty ridiculous. Sure the afghans have repelled them, but that's because the US doesn't want to bomb them because all the civilians. Guerilla warfare can repel attacks, but I don't think anyone could take the US down.

The Avengers obviously, didn't you see that Documentary they released recently.

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