Spoiler Alert!

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The Random One:
I just want to say, if the first time you play Portal you already know GLADoS is supposed to be funny, half the fun is taken away.

Indeed, that happened to me. Still enjoyed the game, but it could have been so much better going in blind.

On the up side tho: My personal "Info Blackout Campaigns" for FF13, Bioshock 2, and Last Guardian are going quite successful. =)

Amen - spoilers suck and regardless of "Crispy Gamer", seeing a story unfold in front of you is part of the gaming experience, as the game was designed that way. If everyone knew the ending of Shadow of the Colossus from the start, that would have servilely made the story far less emotionally engaging.
The only spoiler I'm actually grateful for are the two main spoilers for "The Book of Eli", which after a second of "aw hell no, spoilers", I realised that it probably saved me a trip to the cinema and cost of a ticket to see something which would annoy the hell out of me.

punkhead58:

Logan Westbrook:

Please don't tell me that you've been part of the community for a year and a half and this is the first time you've ventured into the discussion thread for one of our articles?

Please excuse me, Sir Buzz-Kill, I wasn't aware that I had to use forum mark-up to express the tone of my posts. I apologize.

punkhead58:

[sarcasm]
Two links and a sentence? If you weren't part of the Escapist Committee, you'd be probated for low-content posting.
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Happy now?

That's not an apology, that's passive-aggression and sarcasm! You know how I value precision, I can't believe you'd make that mistake. Please try harder in future.

SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!!

Oh lordy, I do beg your pardon, don't know what came over me. Ahem.

I loathe spoilers with a passion. I'm one of those strange rhino-people from planet Whatsimahoosits who actually value a good story over gameplay. I've seen enough of the same thing done over and over again to make me care very much about most new games, and when something that appears to have a vaguely good story comes along and some dick decides to ruin it, I see red. Half the times it turns out the story is actually rubbish anyway, but that's not the point. When I'm playing a game, or reading a book, or watching a movie, I like to be in the dark, anticipating some major plot twist that may or may not be there. Without that, the magic of it just disappears.

Hitchcock hated spoilers enough to shoot special reels that played before Psycho urging viewers not to give away the surprise ending to others who hadn't seen it. Fifty-odd years later, I still think it's bad cricket to give away the ending of that movie to the uninitiated.

If the master of suspense detested the effect of spoilers, I would think critics, any of them, at the VERY LEAST, should too.

Archangel is actually

Susan Arendt:
Spoiler Alert!

If you don't watch your mouth I'll break your knees, too.

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In short, I completely agree; Spoilers suck.

I remember a guy on an Xbox 360 FB group who time and time again spoilered.
Alot of the time it was games I wasn't interested in, but, he was constantly warned about it, so I think he did it out of spite.
I blocked him in the end. I can't stand selfish people.

Indeed, there's no better way to "spoil" the game! hahaha

I'm usually a very collected and calm person, but when it comes to spoilers, I tend to get palpable. I mean palpable as in violent.
This one time my friend and I talked on the phone, and he was going to ask me a question about the ending of Full Metal Jacket when I shouted "STFU" and hung up.
I called him back right away and said I hadn't seen the movie yet - which I did the same day. He was lucky he wasn't around because I swear I would have punched the poor guy's face.
When I was finished, I called him again, to know what his question was, but by then he already forgot :(

Yeah, i agree with Susan here. I used to want to know the plot down to detail of a game, but now i'm fine with either the complete surprise of the game or little hints from people as to whats gonna happen, like if there is gonna be a suprise boss fight i wouldn't mind if someone hinted by saying, well you might want to get some more health potions before you do this. Nothing else, just that any farther and you've gone and ruined it really.

I do it occasionally with books. Infact if i'm reading a book, i can tell in the first chapter if I'm going to skip the rest and just wikipedia the details in. But this new book(well i got the sequel too) i picked up from the library, I am not even gonna google it because I want everything in this book to suprise me. Thats the thing, bad games/books/films i don't care if it's spoiled, but good media s8uch I want the geniune suprise to hit me.

whaleswiththumbs:
Yeah, i agree with Susan here. I used to want to know the plot down to detail of a game, but now i'm fine with either the complete surprise of the game or little hints from people as to whats gonna happen, like if there is gonna be a suprise boss fight i wouldn't mind if someone hinted by saying, well you might want to get some more health potions before you do this. Nothing else, just that any farther and you've gone and ruined it really.

I do it occasionally with books. Infact if i'm reading a book, i can tell in the first chapter if I'm going to skip the rest and just wikipedia the details in. But this new book(well i got the sequel too) i picked up from the library, I am not even gonna google it because I want everything in this book to suprise me. Thats the thing, bad games/books/films i don't care if it's spoiled, but good media s8uch I want the geniune suprise to hit me.

Agreed. In cases where the game is of middling importance to me, I'm fine with someone spoiling events. But there should always be that "Do you care if I spoil this?" check before discussing something like that. That's all I'm saying.

All I am saying is that I personaly agree with susan, if a game might be of interest, don't spoin, but if it isn't feel free to because you will probobly save us the time that we would have spent playing the stupid game and use it on something else, like watching tv.......... or shooting your neighbors goat.

I find spoiler alerts annoying. For me, information is important. Knowing all the plot twists in a good movie only encourages me to see the film, as a well executed plot twist is a sign of a good movie. I find that my enjoyment of something is independent of my knowledge. Knowing the good bits (aka spoilers) allows me to better judge how well I'll like something. I relate media entertainment (Movies, books, games, etc...) to a roller coaster. One can see the whole track from where one is, but one's knowledge of the track does not diminish one's experience on the ride.

Knowledge, in fact, can heighten the experience. Having been told the upcoming plot twist, questions of execution and reaction come to the forefront. How will the plot twist be executed? Where will it come from? When will it happen? How will the characters react? Take the roller coaster example. You see a sharp turn ahead, as your car barrels on down the track. You anticipate how you will react to the gut wrenching turn. That anticipation accentuates the emotions you feel, ones of terror and exhilaration. No amount of knowledge, no amount of spoilers, can substitute for the actual experience.

Man, I read faster than anyone in my entire family; so I tend towards the other side of spoilers.
I remember waiting easily a half a year while my brother finished the latest Harry Potter book just so I could discuss it with him. I had to carefully not answer every single question he asked with 'You'll see' or 'keep reading'. It's painful to go that long just to talk about something.

On the other hand, I too hate having spoilers for games, even if I know how something ends, please don't tell me. Half the fun of having a story is the buildup, what's the point of a buildup if it's told to you at the begining?

Spoiling the story for someone may be tempting, but just think of how much it would tick you off to have it spoiled for you. And if it doesn't matter to you, why would you be discussing it or talking about it in the first place?

I myself have avoided any internet content related to ME2 like the plague. I'm going through the game now, so I'll be able to breathe more easily afterwards...

Someone spoiled CS:S for me :(

Much disappointment.

LionsFist:
Someone spoiled CS:S for me :(

Much disappointment.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ! I piss myself ... Nice one !

I have a friend who's little sister has made a career out of spoiling movies. I wish, I were exaggerating, but every conversation about a new movies literally goes like this:

Her: Hey, have you seen [movie] yet?
Me: Not yet, but I really want to see it this weekend.
Her: Oh, it's really good! There's this part at the end where they find out that Soylent Green is people!
Me: What the fuck?!

Hell, she's even spoiled movies as I'm watching them! "Oh, is that Gladiator? It's sad when he dies at the end." (I'm trying to pick movies here that I'm sure either everyone has seen or doesn't care about, but you get the idea)

I guess my point here is that it's perfectly reasonable and not juvenile to get severely pissed off when someone spoils a movie or game for you, especially if you're looking forward to it.

If I were to find two unlikely people who have never seen Saw or The Sixth Sense, make them watch the movies, but tell one of them all the twist endings, who would appreciate the story more? Having the end spoiled just ruins the experience.

Apologies to anyone who, for whatever reason, never saw Soylent Green or Gladiator.

factualsquirrel:

brodie21:
i have managed to avoid informing myself about ME2, i hope i will be able to keep this up until i can buy the game

Well, the biggest bit in the game is when you get attacked by a giant squid.

Make sure no one tells you about that.

Well since the squid got dissed from the Watchmen, it decided to exact its revenge on Shepherd. Bad Squid!

I kinda have mixed feelings about spoilers.

Pre-game release spoilers are something I tend to ignore. I basically watch to enjoy the graphics and cinematics. If they contain things like content, such as weapon usage and how things work, I'll watch them as well. Hey, guns are awesome!

Now, if it's story content, I have a time-limit on when they should be told. Game just got released? Nothing should be talked about for at least 3 weeks. 2 months the longest. After that, it's no-holds brawl in spoiler dumping. And if the game has been out for a year or two? Then you have no right to complain about spoilers.

My big spoiler moment was with this past season of Torchwood. I'd avoided all the news about it, had pointedly avoided any sort of Doctor Who/Torchwood/Scifi website. Some of those shows are brutal, and I don't want to know beforehand. Unfortunately, one day I decided to read an article about the audience ratings. I wanted to know it did well and thought there would be no problem. Sadly it led into day three's numbers with "And on Wednesday, xxx people watched as..." And that one piece of information meant that I didn't watch it for months - because that was something that I didn't want to see. (Damn you, RTD! Stop killing off the characters I like!)

Most things, not a problem for me - it seems to be just some very specific times that I need to have no spoilers.

Personally, I dislike spoilers, especially for something I'm already in the middle of. If I find something out, I'll immediatly switch games to find a new story.

I value a story higher than gameplay. I remember playing some games with some weird issues when I was younger, but I finished because I wanted to see what happened next. Take the story away, and I have no reason to keep the system on, haha.

Ironlenny:
No amount of knowledge, no amount of spoilers, can substitute for the actual experience.

That's kinda not really what it's about. I mean, yeah, having someone explain it to you beforehand is not the same as actually watching it, but knowing everything that's going to happen ruins the suspense created by people's natural fear of the unknown. A friend of mine once step-by-step explained the plot of Donnie Darko to me before I actually saw it. Yes, I still enjoyed the movie, but not as much as I would have because I didn't have that, "A-ha, that's deep," moment.

I don't usually mind game spoilers too much because so many games tend to throw writing out of the window and focus on trying to fit as many explosions in the game as possible, but I usually like to watch movies or TV shows on a blank slate. Even (plausible) fake spoilers are enough to annoy me because they still alter my perception of the story. If I'm explicitly told that something doesn't happen in the story, that means I'll exclude that possibility from my predictions of how things will turn out.

Oh and my friend that I mentioned earlier is that guy. You know, the one who searches up everything about the plot of a show or video game instead of ever actually watching or playing it and then insists on talking to you about it. He always seems to assume that, just because I like a show or game, I must already know everything. I've actually had multiple conversations with him that went as follows:

Him: "So why didn't you tell me [Character A] [dies/becomes ruler of the universe/marries his sister]?"
Me: "Because I didn't get to that part yet..."

It's funny you brought up ME2, because this is the least spoilable game. Since the flow of the story depends mostly on the player's choices and the choices made in ME1, there is not much you can spoil about the game. Sure, you can run around telling people that the end boss is a giant h%"3♂├.$[data corrupted]$) and no matter what you do^ś"*%-&#' dies at the end, but other than that, it depends on how you play the game and what path you choose. It's not a rail-shooter, it's a cRPG.

You may overhear people talking about ME2, but the thing is, there are so many choices and paths to take in the game, that their playthrough might not even come close to yours.

But, on a related note, here is the biggest spoiler you REALLY WANNA KNOW ABOUT if you wanna finish the game:

But yeah - spoilers are not the greatest thing there are, i agree.

Last Year I was standing in line to see the Star Trek movie, the one where they are still at Star Fleet Academy. While standing there the prior audience was exiting.

One yelled: "You want to know how it ends? Everyone lives!"

Spoilers suck! People who shout them in places without proper warnings in the first few days/weeks after something come out need to be strung up by their heals and dangled over a nest of ants.

I've been trying to avoid all spoilers about Mass Effect 2, but I've been afflicted a few times in unrelated topics, someone brings it up, then someone says something about part X was cool and I want to smash someones face in because I haven't got there yet >.<

Ironlenny:
I find spoiler alerts annoying. For me, information is important. Knowing all the plot twists in a good movie only encourages me to see the film, as a well executed plot twist is a sign of a good movie. I find that my enjoyment of something is independent of my knowledge. Knowing the good bits (aka spoilers) allows me to better judge how well I'll like something. I relate media entertainment (Movies, books, games, etc...) to a roller coaster. One can see the whole track from where one is, but one's knowledge of the track does not diminish one's experience on the ride.

Knowledge, in fact, can heighten the experience. Having been told the upcoming plot twist, questions of execution and reaction come to the forefront. How will the plot twist be executed? Where will it come from? When will it happen? How will the characters react? Take the roller coaster example. You see a sharp turn ahead, as your car barrels on down the track. You anticipate how you will react to the gut wrenching turn. That anticipation accentuates the emotions you feel, ones of terror and exhilaration. No amount of knowledge, no amount of spoilers, can substitute for the actual experience.

That's personal preference, you enjoy knowing that before you get it, but most of us are okay with little things like the basic setting, or things in the trailer, but knowing the ending and things the designers want to be a surprise, that's something we'd enjoy not knowing before hand.

So yea spoiler alerts may annoy you, but at least your information is under them, without them we have our enjoyment ruined completely.

I'm a bit schitzophrenic when it comes to spoilers as I hate know whats going to happen but sometimes the tension or the plot drags on so long I go find out the end out of sheer frustration. I still haven't watched any of Lost yet for this reason. Overall, I play games for the story and as such do try and avoid spoilers where I can. Going to be having a complete black out on any Bioshock 2 (though they'll never top the last one), Heavy Rain and Final Fantasy threads/reviews/news for this reason.

I stopped caring about spoilers a long time ago. I'm one of those people that can hardly fathom how it's possible for something to be spoiled in the first place. Knowing what happens doesn't take the magic out of the event, does it?

Yeah, in some cases it does. I'm really good at suspending disbelief and getting wrapped up in the moment, but if I'm in a mood where that's particularly difficult I feel kind of cheated when I know what's gonna happen next. Part of that is because I'm jaded-plots are often so predictable you just gotta figure out the archetype and fill in the blanks-and part of it is a longing for unpredictability that cannot be fulfilled even when the things I knew were gonna happen didn't happen as expected.

All that is probably a bit confusing, but when you get to the nitty gritty all I'm trying to say is don't be a dick. Seriously, guys. Just don't.

I hate spoilers. I hate it when I'm going through a game, get to a certain part and think to myself 'Yeah, now the plot twist's coming'. I like to experience the story by myself, not have someone else tell me.

So please, use spoiler tags. Even if it's for something 'we should already know'. Some people just haven't got around to watch those movies, play those games or read those books yet.

EDIT: And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who will have to wait before they get ME2 because they have other things to do first. So please... please... don't spoil the game.

Also, that was a very good article, I almost punched my desk in frustration when I got to the part where the two women spoil the result.

You know, I feel compelled now to add in a little story of my own about spoilers;

Transformers 2 had been out for a week. Considering the first one did a good job of making a decent action movie out of a toy advert and everyone hated it for how little it was like it's toy advert roots, I was really psyched for it. Problem was, I had no money. Eventually, a group of mates who are going to see it offer to pool together and pay for me, which is really cool, but also happens to be the weekend of my roommate's birthday. In trying to convince me, one of them lets slip a little gem...

...Yeah. Still haven't entirely forgiven the bitch.

Also, before I hit post, for everyone ready to reply with "lawl transfermors 2 sux balz" or whatever, I enjoyed it, so what exactly do you intend to do about it?

EDIT - also... Portal. Yeah, if you've heard it dozens upon dozens of times, the whole "cake is a lie" and "companion cube" jokes just aren't that funny from the original source. Sadly, the game isn't that great without them...

*gives Susan a sympathetic hug* That has happened to me more times than I care to count.It tends to happen a lot more in Malta, cos we get pretty much everything a Year after it has come out in the big countries. In have yet to watch a season of So You Think You Can Dance where someone hadn't told me who won :(

my condolences Susan

That's why we have the joy of Spoiler tags here on the Escapists. While I can understand revealing snippets of the storyline is a little annoying, but what's the harm?

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