Zero Punctuation: Mass Effect 2

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Eponet:
Jetpacks would be an issue when exploring planets without an oxygen atmosphere. Because the fuel wouldn't be able to combust unless it used oxygen inside the pack intself, but then it would need to be huge.

Yeah, cos it's not like the technology in this game revolves around a quick, easy and efficient way to reduce your mass to practically nothing so that even the smallest of ion propulsion systems can send you screaming through space.

Possibly the nerdiest sarcasm ever.

Side note:Is anybody else surprised at the name? Since the whole thing was planned as a trilogy + spinoffs from the start, Mass Effect 2 seems rather bland. I'd expect at least a subtitle.

Mass Effect 2 : Operation Lazarus?

I agreed with some of the things he said in the review. Overall the game was great but they could have made the upgrading the ship, weapons, and armor a bit better. The combat was pretty good in my book.

Why do people moan about having to swap discs if it's on a console? It takes like 5 seconds and keeps the game massive.

PC's on the other hand need plenty of hard drive space, I hate having to uninstall a game to play another if I'm low on room.

Telperion:

A1:

But at the same time the Mass Effect franchise is still somewhat lacking when it comes to gameplay, although most RPG fans probably won't care all that much.

I must point out that ME 2 is not an RPG. It's a 3rd Person Shooter fest with the lightest of possible RPG elements stacked on top of a good storyline.

Mass Effect 2 is an RPG. It's a modern RPG, where deep character development (meaning who and what you're rather than how good your character is) and strong narrative are more important than stats and loot.

good game could have been better. this place has still not gotten out of the hole its dug its self so better luck next week Yahtzee

Say, did the Lazerus Project make anyone else think of the 6 Million Dollar Man?
"We can rebuild him, we have the technology..."

7ru7h:

canadamus_prime:
Well I enjoyed the driving in Mass Effect, and as I said in a previous thread, I'd like to kick everyone who complained about it in the balls... hard; so hard in fact that they'll be talking like Pee Wee Herman on helium for a month. ... Anyway the Mako was a fucking TANK with rocket boosters on it, you don't exactly expect a tank to handle like Ferrari, do you? I thought the damn thing handled quite well considering it was a fucking tank!
Anyway, I digress.

Well, I would be one of the people you would like to kick in the balls, but that's mainly because I realize that the mako was actually supposed to be something like an APC rather than a tank, and the fact that the mako handled like an epileptic waiter at a rave didn't help either...

Tank, APC, whatever, the point was that the thing could hardly be expected to handle like Ferrari on a freeway; esp. since you were distinctly not on a freeway, but on the very rocky terrain of some alien planet. And it did not handle like an epileptic waiter at a rave.

Side note:Is anybody else surprised at the name? Since the whole thing was planned as a trilogy + spinoffs from the start, Mass Effect 2 seems rather bland. I'd expect at least a subtitle.

What? Mass Effect 2 not good enough for you? What else were you expecting? ''Mass Effect 2: The Return of Shepard''?

Mass Effect 2 is an RPG. It's a modern RPG, where deep character development (meaning who and what you're rather than how good your character is) and strong narrative are more important than stats and loot.

Its a RPG, but with shooter elements. Its not the first game with that's done this.

I found this game to be a lot shittier than the first mass effect.

Then why did you waste 60 dollars on a game you hate?

Naheal:
Snipers don't need teammates. In fact, they have this disgusting tendency to GIVE YOUR POSITION AWAY. I'm more just impressed that you had the patience to be a sniper in that game.

Being an infiltrator was the only way I got through the game on Insanity, stealth and sniper rifles are amazing. Probably why Yahtzee thought it was so easy - should have tried as a Vanguard. That shit was whack.

I wish Yahtzee had commented on Garrus's win one-liners. "SCOPED AND DROPPED!"

He didn't romance Tali. Do you know why? He's a normal male. Not a mouth breathing, hentai watching, creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus.

Yes, that's what you are if you did that.

hahahahahha!

Bioware never relly got the hint that one the most important reasons their game sold so well was the space boobage.

Raithnor:

blalien:
I want to know who Yahtzee sexed! I hope it's Tali.

I just wanna see the Normandy smash into a planet because they accidently hit the wrong switch whilst doing 'it'.

ramik81:

You know if you sex up Tali, in the next game she's going to contract an virus and die from a poor immune system...right?

lol

Nope. And you know Quarians can't get virus's from humans, right? Only from Turians.

Dirty Harry FTW, also, I love the ending sequence, the best one after L4D2 & Super Mario Wii.

chozo_hybrid:
Why do people moan about having to swap discs if it's on a console? It takes like 5 seconds and keeps the game massive.

PC's on the other hand need plenty of hard drive space, I hate having to uninstall a game to play another if I'm low on room.

Because people like to bitch about any inconvince, no matter how minor.

That was an awesome review! I would love to explore planets flying around with a jet pack; that would be epic.

BioWare should just hire the dudes at Airtight games for the exploration sections. It makes perfect sense - they have experience working with the UT3 engine, they do the flying jetpack thing well and they will soon be out of a job thanks to the commercial failure of Dark Void.

And while they are at it, they can probably replace the stoic voice of Mark Meer with the smartass mouth of Nolan North!

Yahtzee acknowledged the existence of the Quest for Glory series...

I don't know why, but my opinion of Yahtzee just went up a tad...

misterprickly:
Did he say if he liked it or not?

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He liked it. I can't remember which video or Extra Punctuation it was in but he said that if he isn't overly cruel then he enjoyed it. Hell, he spends a portion of the video praising it. That's a good sign.

Besides, apparently no one likes it when he does a praising review as he mentioned early in his Escapist career when his Psychonauts review went belly-up.

I don't know if this came up before but while mass effect 1 was all about the Romancing and becoming either Evil Racist McGee or Super Happy Sunchild #357, Mass effect 2 was all about Shepard dying to the point that he has the opportunity to do so TWICE while still being Canon.

I'd hate to see Bioware make him come back another time for those wanting plot wholes big enough to create a "I will die this time" Shepard. But then what would humanity do if Shepard really does die?

Cloning? Super Soldiers? Or use his/her DNA to create a child whose sole purpose is to save the Galaxy(Bobofet style). I feel like ME3 will be praised by having more Replacements for "The Icon of Humanity" than you can throw at a Reaper.

Sex is a possible part of any game. Never the center of it. (allmost never. As you can see in this. http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/features/hentai.htm ) The obsession with mass effect and the very small part that sex plays in it just takes away from the game as a whole.
Mineing sucks. Agreed.
I would have perfered that the whole world exploreing thing get improved as aposed to shafted. But I never want to deal with that same mako shit agian.
Loved the writeing. Forever and always.

Cryo84R:
He didn't romance Tali. Do you know why? He's a normal male. Not a mouth breathing, hentai watching, creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus.

Yes, that's what you are if you did that.

If that's the case, I'd rather be a mouth breathing, hentai-watching creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus than submit to Yahtzee's alternative.
I mean, Miranda?
So utterly devoid of personality the scriptwriters could've achieved the same overall result by taping a pair of ripe pomegranates to a piece of plywood and place it awkwardly in select scenes when the T'n'A factor wasn't great enough.

Greenshoes:
Good ol mister Gobblecoqhe, hadnt heard anything from that guy in a while. What happened to him anyway?

Tabula Rasa died, as did Gareth. I guess you missed the funeral.

It was a great review with very little cruelty. In fact, there was none. Considering that this review came from the Prince of Cynics it was, dare I say, sweet. I know SOMEONE who enjoyed ME2...

-I'm disappointed he didn't bring up how most of the characters never interact with one another. I am glad he talked about the ominous tones of the loading screen text.

"Import your Shepard to Mass Effect 3... If you survive..."

Freaked me out on my first playthrough. Made me think I was doomed to die and Bioware was just fucking with me.

Clidefrog123:
Bioware never relly got the hint that one the most important reasons their game sold so well was the space boobage.

Check the site articles about Bioware's dictatorship. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Excellent review. I liked this game quite a bit, but there were some glaring issues. The mining was just an afterthought. All those descriptions of planets and yet nothing really to actually *do* on them (mostly)? And with all these space pirates and such where are the frakkin' SPACE battles? (Remember Tie Fighter and X-Wing from the 90s? Ye gawds, those were fun games.) After a while, all the actual fighting felt more like a linear series of confrontations in warehouses, service tunnels and sound stages. These are minor gripes, though, and we should be so lucky if more games could approach this level of quality.

Good review, and yes I agree, the surface scanning does get rather tedious after a while, even you get the speedy scanner upgrade. I recall first hearing that the Mako had been replaced by a hovering vehicle, I thought we were still going to get the planet exploration sections, but more people would like it because our vehicle would now be able to zoom around the planet at a fair lick and not be bother by terrain so much, because it hovers.

Maybe for ME3, they can keep the dinky little Normandy flying around the galaxy, but give us some kind of vehicle back for cruising around the planets. In fact, why not adopt Yahtzee's idea and have Shepard and co exploring planets on jet-pack powered space wolves, firing their lasers at thresher maws?

By which time, Shepard will probably have a Reaper, a Vorcha and Collector on his/her squad, and the Normandy 3 will have its own brothel....

That was a pretty heavy dig at Eve Online. Made me laugh.

I enjoyed the Mako in ME1. I was disappointed when it was gone in 2.

Cryo84R:
He didn't romance Tali. Do you know why? He's a normal male. Not a mouth breathing, hentai watching, creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus.

Yes, that's what you are if you did that.

Xenophobic much? You're probably trolling but in the event you aren't...

I don't fall into any of the aforementioned stereotypes and I romanced Tali because I'm capable of choosing an excellent personality over a "genetically perfect" body. Thank ya very much.

Ah, the first Zero Punctuation of a game I really really liked, am I ready to froth at the mouth with a feeling of betrayal and swear never to watch another ZP again?

Nah. Review was good, critisisms were legitimate and praise was expectedly toned-down. I loved the game, really into the whole Mass Effect universe. Odd 'cause I was never much of a sci-fi junkie. The next one should be pretty exciting.

LiquidGrape:

Cryo84R:
He didn't romance Tali. Do you know why? He's a normal male. Not a mouth breathing, hentai watching, creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus.

Yes, that's what you are if you did that.

If that's the case, I'd rather be a mouth breathing, hentai-watching creeper who watches little girls get off the school bus than submit to Yahtzee's alternative.
I mean, Miranda?
So utterly devoid of personality the scriptwriters could've achieved the same overall result by taping a pair of ripe pomegranates to a piece of plywood and place it awkwardly in select scenes when the T'n'A factor wasn't great enough.

I ALMOST went for her until I noticed that Tali, Jack, and even Samara (though that choice was brutal) were incredibly well written. I especially like Tali and Jack, though. Not only were they fun characters to do missions with, but their love subplots really added a layer of fun to the game.

-Look at the ME2 boxart. You see that, people? Shepard, Thane, and Miranda, and only TWO of those three belong on that cover. Wanna guess who they- It's Thane and Shepard! HA! Beat you snarky bastards to the punch!

Heh... he's got a point with the paragon/renegade choices... though maybe it wasnt meant to be good/evil. Just well... Nice/Naughty?

:|

This is a first, every time i try to watch it, the AVP ad stops at "1 second before your video starts" or whatever and it just stays there.

aww common, EvE's not that bad... ish...
Great review by the way!

Abedeus:

ZippyDSMlee:
I miss the vehicle sections they were fun...and so was equipment.... oh well water it down here we go bioshock again >>

uhg when will devs learn you can dumb it down and have that as a default option for people who can't handel menus while the rest of us can haz a game to play minus the piss...er...water.....

I love RPGs, I love Bioware and I love Bioware RPGs.

Both vehicle sections and equipment screen were THE WORST things about ME1, if you exclude problems with modern Nvidia drivers, not game's fault. Equipment screen was a major clusterbeep and Mako sucked ass. Seriously, it was so unwieldy I did all the "walking" missions first before going into Mako.

The Uber n00b3r:
After playing Mass2 I'd agree to most of this. Mixing Vehicle exploration and scanning at the same time would be waaaaaaaay better. The ending was rather bad though, because when you eliminate the threat and go say "Hey council i took care of the problem for you." That option mysteriously isn't there.

It's like they fucked it up on purpose...

Solid game, good fun, DLC is probably coming out in droves so hang onto it. The end.

It wouldn't be logical if they DID thank you. They said they won't acknowledge the Reapers as a real threat, since nobody saw them except for Shepard, and they think Sovereign was actually a Geth warship or something... Especially since the scavengers (one of them was Cerberus) took most of the parts from the ship, so it was impossible for Council to get any informations about the Reapers.

Meh the Mako only had a couple of flaws otherwise it was more fun to dune buggie around than fight and with mods to the weapons,hover,jump jets,ect and more things to shoot it would have been an awesome optional side quest, you see you leave it in make it better then add a automated generated script thingy so people who do not hate and loath simple fun things like inventory,equipment,riding around can still manage to enjoy the game while those who want watered down can skip all that and get right to the movie.... I like the equipment setup because you could mod and tweak weapons and armor which made up for having it big time.

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