The Escapist Film Festival 2010: Opinionated Reviews: Burn Notice

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I do agree with you fully, though I enjoy the show fully. Yes I know it has its problems, but I have so few shows that I like that keep on. For example "The Middle Man" which failed because it was a good show on ABCFamily. ABCFamily audience does not care for quality. See any show that has more then one season on the channel as proof of this.

There were very minor problems. For example Black would of probably worked better in contrast to the white chalk outline. Would help it stand out a a bit easier. Pacing did have trouble, many times the sentence seem longer then what you could breath. Something I think would be fixed if more practice and more breaks(stop the recording after a sentence then start recording the next sentence rinse and repeat) when recording.

Like the idea, and would like to see more. It looked as though you didn't enjoy Burn Notice. Though I would want to see the same approach on a show that you do like next. Its easy to see the problems in what we hate, it is often harder to do so in something we enjoy.

Very well done. The yogurt had me confused until I read the explanation in this thread, and while there are obvious similarities to Yahtzee, honestly, any review wherein the reviewer does not like like what he's reviewing could easily be stamped with a "Like Zero Punctuation but..." label. (My god, I read that in his voice as I wrote it. ._.) Unlike others, I found your voice enjoyable to listen to, and the animation style was appealing. Great work. =3

Savant Crime:
My videos usually run about seven and a half minutes. I've done others and they're on YouTube. If you're interested, I'll PM you a link.

I am indeed interested. Link please?

I dug around briefly on YouTube until I found your other reviews (wasn't hard). Hope I was able to kick up your view counts a bit.

Too bad you didn't submit your Heroes 1 review; I burst out laughing at that one (".....................Next week: Pacing").

ewhac:
Too bad you didn't submit your Heroes 1 review; I burst out laughing at that one (".....................Next week: Pacing").

Wish I could've, it would've been less work for me!

Sadly, that would have gotten me disqualified. :/

God, I'm so glad this didnt get picked up. Shes trying so hard to be ZP by deliberately nitpicking apart a wildly popular show. YOUR personality seems bland and uninspired. So please, whatever your name is. DO NOT I repeat, DO NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB. But you probably suck at that too.

Felt like a long winded female version of Movie Bob/ZP, with horrible taste (dissing Burn Notice, really? Next thing you're gonna say is you hate con movies).

So not for me.

ToonLink:
DO NOT I repeat, DO NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB. But you probably suck at that too.

I was okay with the negative comments. I put up with the comparisons. I waded through the shallowness and mire that is the general public to put something I cared about up for inspection by the unpleasable peanut gallery. Well and good, but now, dude, you've crossed the line.

You can insult me, you can insult my critiques, fine. When you ascribe to me petty motivations, and a general ineptitude, though, I take some offense.

As for my day job? I own a gaming store. I balance the professional and the geeky and handle people and companies regularly. I manage hard feelings and embarrassment, the shy, the outcast, and the forlorn. I run a nexus of asocial people at an intrinsically social activity. THAT is what I do with most of my time, and I wouldn't stop for the world.

I make these videos in my spare time. _I_ make them. I put my heart and my time and my skills into something that I actually care about. I didn't make this video for the contest. I didn't do it for the contract. I did it to express an opinion, to lend some credence to the idea that what is popular is not always good, and that a good concept does not good entertainment make. I did it because television is something that gets sidelined in terms of quality and effort, and I object to that.

My name is Sharon. I'm the Opinionated Critic.

Tell me, who are you?

Savant Crime:
My name is Sharon. I'm the Opinionated Critic.

Tell me, who are you?

He's ToonLink, silly! ;)

Savant Crime:
SNIP

It's funny that you call yourself the "Opinionated Critic", yet you can't handle when someone else has a difference in opinion than your own?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Sharon.

P.S. I'm Vince and I work as a Sales Associate at a Best Buy in Mississippi. Nice to meet you.

Silly me! I though you were a worthy opponent. My mistake.

Lovely to meet you, though.

Savant Crime:

Silly me! I though you were a worthy opponent. My mistake.

Whoa ho ho! Witty. Unlike your video. I'd love to continue this battle of wits with you, but I do hate fighting unarmed people.

So I bid you good day madam.

Okay, normally I try not to get involved in arguments on forums; and in general not get involved in forums at all, but I feel I have to say something.

ToonLink:

It's funny that you call yourself the "Opinionated Critic", yet you can't handle when someone else has a difference in opinion than your own?

You didn't have a "difference of opinion", you said:

ToonLink:
YOUR personality seems bland and uninspired.

ToonLink:
So please, whatever your name is. DO NOT I repeat, DO NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB. But you probably suck at that too.

(Bold added to illustrate my point)

That is not a "difference of opinion", that's being rude. You didn't disagree with something she said, you attacked her character and made a completely baseless claim that because you didn't like her video she must thus be incompetent. Neither of those comments had anything to do with the video entered in this contest or your opinion on said video, they were just rude and pointless attacks on the character of someone you don't know.

LavenderExtract:
Okay, normally I try not to get involved in arguments on forums; and in general not get involved in forums at all, but I feel I have to say something.

ToonLink:

It's funny that you call yourself the "Opinionated Critic", yet you can't handle when someone else has a difference in opinion than your own?

You didn't have a "difference of opinion", you said:

ToonLink:
YOUR personality seems bland and uninspired.

ToonLink:
So please, whatever your name is. DO NOT I repeat, DO NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB. But you probably suck at that too.

(Bold added to illustrate my point)

That is not a "difference of opinion", that's being rude. You didn't disagree with something she said, you attacked her character and made a completely baseless claim that because you didn't like her video she must thus be incompetent. Neither of those comments had anything to do with the video entered in this contest or your opinion on said video, they were just rude and pointless attacks on the character of someone you don't know.

I know, isn't the internet great?
Have a good one.

I really should have seen that coming.. but in a moment of weakness I convinced myself I was dealing with someone with a modicum of intelligence or manners.

LavenderExtract:
I really should have seen that coming.. but in a moment of weakness I convinced myself I was dealing with someone with a modicum of intelligence or manners.

Obviously you made a mistake.

I bid you good day sir.

Quality TV reviews interest me very much as I find myself watching more and more TV shows in the past couple of years. I was sad to see a series trying to do just that didn't make the cut, but after watching it and reading the author's comments here I have to agree that it's probably for the best.
There were mentions of the original text for the review being too long, needing to speak quickly in order to deliver even the shortened version and possibly asking for a longer time limit. All of this gives the impression of lacking professionalism. And your last comment here adds to that - responding in such a way (or, indeed, responding at all) to comments like ToonLink's is simply poor judgment.
Then there's the notion that thoroughly tearing down something is entertaining. Yes, it could be. But we have Yahtzee for that here and he's doing great. There's simply no need for more of that. MovieBob started this way too, and met with quite the cold welcome here. It's a very strong argument for the "ZP rip-off" crowd, as you've felt yourself. It took him some time, but eventually Bob showed his true face: a person capable of deep, thoughtful commentary that overshadows by far the hollow attempts to be entertaining in the same way Yahtzee is. Now I see he's started another series focusing on exactly that type of commentary in a broader range of topics. Do find your own voice and what makes you entertaining. I can see you're quite adept at deducing what makes Yahtzee unique, but I'm afraid for you it's going to be much harder.
I'd even argue that tearing down a popular show like Burn Notice presents another issue of professionalism: You need to know your audience. Is this kind of commentary what your audience truly needs? Should you exercise your unquestionable intellect in a single direction? I'd be very interested to hear why do you think Burn Notice succeeds with its audience, for example. Or what alternatives would you recommend and why. People ask for positive reviews in the previous comments because they want to see what moves you and why instead of simply what you've observed and how would you evaluate it.
I should stop already, although I feel like I need to say even more. Do give us a link to your previous videos and good luck in making more of them, better.

This was an excellent review being excellently read over needless pointless drab imagery. Seriously, the visual are pretty much a textbook study on why ZP style is harder to pull off than it seems. It's too bad, because that's the one thing I can think is wrong with this video and it just happens to be essential to it.

Definitely what I would call a hard-to-not-consider-it-strongly-influenced-by-ZP product. The entire time I was watching the video the two contrasting thoughts of "This is like reading the comments on the internet" and "And what exactly makes you better than the people who works their asses off on BN" crossed my mind alot. I'm on board with the "don't quit your day job" sentiment.

However, bravo for stepping up to the line and submitting.
If you don't take that chance, you'll never know if its your AAA title or not. *golfclap*

I will say this: of all the videos in the competition, this is the only one that I took the time to find anything about the person who made it. I then went on to watch all of your reviews to date.

This video is not the best one you have made for obvious reasons (time constraints mainly).

I think you are somewhat stuck (or flip-flopping [take that, grammar]) between styles of review; bashing and critique. When you start blending those with suggestions and perhaps a bit of allegory and illustration your reviews will be much much better.

I did watch them all, so they aren't too shabby.

Don't let the ZP comments get you down. Many people treat him as the raison d'etre for The Escapist website [apologies to the actual Escapist staff] so anything on the site will inevitably get compared to his videos. You seem to highlight legitimate problems in the media you review, Yahtzee mainly rails on things that bug him personally; however, both of your backgrounds are blue, so you are obviously ripping him off shamefully (shamelessly? ironically?)

Anyway, looking forward to future growth.

Interestingly, I actually like this work quite a bit despite the fact that the creator are horribly, horribly wrong and has even worst taste than the Escapist's current resident professional troll. I wish I hadn't been on vacation away from my computer for the voting time cuz I would've given this my vote and felt better about myself for supporting an opinion which differed from my own. As it is, I'm left to make this post and feel a much hollower (but still noticeable) feeling of self-aggrandizement.

Cameron Sours:
however, both of your backgrounds are blue, so you are obviously ripping him off shamefully (shamelessly? ironically?)

Maybe I just like blue and the toil and stress of making these videos leaves my to find my joy wherever I can, so by using my favorite color as a background I can sprinkle my otherwise horrid day with sweetness and light?

Or I just picked "blue" randomly out of a bucket waaay back in July.

Could go either way. ;)

Anyway, thanks for the comment and the support!

Well... ok here's the thing I do want female contributors on the escapist, I did not like your review =/. first off well it's not necessarily a bad thing that your style is similar to yahtzee's, I did find you as well written or voiced. your character isn't as expressive and it doesn't lend it's self to comedy as well as ZP or extra credits. Your voice tends to drone when you speak that fast. try using some inflection. Last thing, you seemed to be trying way to hard to be negative and just came off as harping =/. Anyways well I won't be voting for you, it was better than anything I've ever done and I wish you luck on other endeavors.

nvm

The weird thing about this review is that every time that an actual, objective fact comes up, the reviewer is wrong. Like, dead wrong, just pulled the idea out of her ass. It makes it hard to accept her subjective conclusions when it sounds like she watched an entirely different show.

Example: Weston is a painfully nice guy in the show. In fact, the A-Team type premise is COMPLETELY driven on the fact that he's always helping people he shouldn't. He's such a freakn' sacchirine boy scout that it makes you wonder how he survived in espionage. He _literally_ spends time (kinda stupidly) helping old ladies, over and over again. He's a good guy. Reviewer conclusion: "Michael Weston is such an unlikeable jerk that the villains have to be written as cartoonishly evil. . ."

That example is actually telling because the reviewer gives virtually no examples (with one major exception to follow). I kept waiting for them but they never came. Conclusions, no examples. This is how not to do a review.

The exception: The reviewer does throw out examples when it comes to color -- but then half of her examples contradict her complaint about blue and orange by showing other contrasting colors. This is just messed up; the most solid example she can give is a) not terribly offensive and b) undermined by her example.

Spending ~20 seconds on a 5 minute review to talk about a bit character in the pilot in a show that's up to something like 5-7 seasons seems bizaare at first. Then we learn the reviewer really liked the actor of said bit character and he was on a show the reviewer liked. Then it seemed stupid. Mentioning that you loved some other (controversal) show in a mostly evidence-free review makes the reviewer sound petty and sniping -- which is fine, if you're funny, but she's not, so that's a loss.

This review actually made me like Burn Notice more, if only because I'd feel like an idiot if I agreed with the revieweer. That was a terrible use of 4 minutes, 58 seconds.

Savant Crime:

ADDatWork23:
I think the video is a good start and has potential for wit and some good commentary. It's nice to get an online reviewer for Television shows; it's something I havnet seen done yet. But I wanted to take a minute and give some constructive criticism to the video.

You bring up a lot of points about the writing in the beginning of the review but my problem with it is that you don't elaborate on your points. You mention that The Girl isn't well acted or that Bruce Campbell's character is stereotypical but why is Bruce playing a stereotype? What's the stereotype? What are the cliche's of the show, what's blocky about the exposition, what makes the main character unlikable? There are a lot of things you give thumbs down to but I dont see why they're bad things. One thing I think would help is to take some time and show some examples of these problems you bring up in the review. Also, I read in the comments that the yogurt is something Burn Notices does constantly but having never seen the show I wouldn't know that so the joke felt a little alienating.

Later in the video, you pointed out a few examples of Burn Notice's Color Palette choices and it's editing overload and from the photos you showed it proves the point and it shows your argument well of "Show Dont Tell" (which I totally agree with that policy).

I think that if you took some time and elaborated on Burn Notices writing mistakes or other things that you didn't like, it could help strengthen your arguments and make for a cool review show. I hope this comment is useful and I don't come off as a douche for saying it but I wanted to chime in. Good luck in the contest!

BTW, Stop calling her a ZP Rip-off, she has a completely different tone and style of reviewing the Yahtzee and calling "Rip-Off" is getting annoying.

You know, when I first wrote this script it was my longest of the dozen reviews I've made, weighing in at nineteen hundred words. I think the longer script may have fixed a lot of your criticisms with my video, as I did go into considerably more detail there. However, no one on the planet can say nineteen hundred words in five minutes (except for possibly the guys that read the fine print for radio commercials), so I had to cut it all the way down to eleven hundred fifty words, and most of the detail was lost. My reviews usually run seven to eight minutes, and if the Escapist hires me, I'll ask for more time. There's just too much material to cover in five minutes!

firstoff good job, enjoyed it, have a question though, should you get hired how will this even be sustainable. 10 hours of gameplay in a game makes a review, watching movie twice you can review it, but if you are going to watch en entire season of a show and up to 3-4 seasons you might be running out of time sooner than later :D

sad how people dismiss you as zp clone when you clearly did alot of research for this and the options for a review are lacking if you dont want to appear on cam by yourself

Why does this video keep haunting me?!

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It's 2013, and this was made in 2010. I hated it the first time around because it poorly represented the show, and it's still around tormenting me!

It's been popping up regularly for the last year or so, but it hadn't done it for a few months until now.

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