Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

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Zero Serenity:
For a moment it sounded like Ben was having as bad *Achoo!* of a sick spell as I am.

Anyway, where is the "Like God of War" stamp? Seriously. Click on Force Fury and it looks like all that happened was suddenly there are chain on the sabers.

You do not get to claim that it's ripping something off for just one animation, besides this isn't the first game to have forced welded lightsabers.

And again stop comparing things to God of War, nothing in God of War was original(I fact I don't even think thew developers would say that it's original, they just wanted to prefect already proven game play elements). The rope like weapon Rygar and Castlevania, the combos Dante had done half of them before Kratos, quick time events Resident evil and even die hard arcade before that, the platforming/action game with puzzles and climbing sequences Soul Reaver, and it's not like the spells haven't been seen in dozens of games beforehand and the story Dead man brought back to life to fight random monsters was Altered Beast.

Yawnn...This one was seriously boring.

"It's the most grossly offensive and mis-handled piece of intellectual property since the 'Schindler's List Easy-Bake Oven".

That's Gold, Yahtzee. Gold.

and the game is shit. Shit.

georgie lucas has more chins than lucasarts have shitty spinoffs.

Yep, that's pretty much the sum of this game "Pen vomit, and poorly drawn chairs fucking"

I really do feel that review was great. He stayed true to form and completely ripped the game to shreds.

Considering all the other reviews of it, I'm not surprised.

HankMan:
Force lightning is EVERYBODY's weakness?
That's....
*puts on sun glasses*
Shocking
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ha ha I see what you did there, I'm going to need to use that being that EVERYONE AROUND ME loves this blasted mockery of a game.

actually what I did was quite funny, he was playing Force Unleashed 2, when he left I switched it to Darksiders, and he thought I just put a WoW mod on FU2

Mash X for a bit, then Mash Y when you're board

of course he figured out it was a different game when he found the Zelda like gameplay

...note this is the same person that when I turned off the HUD in Metroid Prime, and equipped the plasma gun and went to pandrea drifts, he thought I had a copy of StarCraft Ghost.

lord.jeff:

Zero Serenity:
For a moment it sounded like Ben was having as bad *Achoo!* of a sick spell as I am.

Anyway, where is the "Like God of War" stamp? Seriously. Click on Force Fury and it looks like all that happened was suddenly there are chain on the sabers.

You do not get to claim that it's ripping something off for just one animation, besides this isn't the first game to have forced welded lightsabers.

And again stop comparing things to God of War, nothing in God of War was original(I fact I don't even think thew developers would say that it's original, they just wanted to prefect already proven game play elements). The rope like weapon Rygar and Castlevania, the combos Dante had done half of them before Kratos, quick time events Resident evil and even die hard arcade before that, the platforming/action game with puzzles and climbing sequences Soul Reaver, and it's not like the spells haven't been seen in dozens of games beforehand and the story Dead man brought back to life to fight random monsters was Altered Beast.

Well at least someone knows their games.

But lets just make it clear!

A COPY ISN'T ALWAYS BAD

Look at Castle Crashers, that game rocks and it's just a smash up of Golden Axe and Gauntlet
and Alien Hominid is just Aliens (as in the movie... headbite) + Metal Slug

WOPR:

lord.jeff:

Zero Serenity:
For a moment it sounded like Ben was having as bad *Achoo!* of a sick spell as I am.

Anyway, where is the "Like God of War" stamp? Seriously. Click on Force Fury and it looks like all that happened was suddenly there are chain on the sabers.

You do not get to claim that it's ripping something off for just one animation, besides this isn't the first game to have forced welded lightsabers.

And again stop comparing things to God of War, nothing in God of War was original(I fact I don't even think thew developers would say that it's original, they just wanted to prefect already proven game play elements). The rope like weapon Rygar and Castlevania, the combos Dante had done half of them before Kratos, quick time events Resident evil and even die hard arcade before that, the platforming/action game with puzzles and climbing sequences Soul Reaver, and it's not like the spells haven't been seen in dozens of games beforehand and the story Dead man brought back to life to fight random monsters was Altered Beast.

Well at least someone knows their games.

But lets just make it clear!

A COPY ISN'T ALWAYS BAD

Look at Castle Crashers, that game rocks and it's just a smash up of Golden Axe and Gauntlet
and Alien Hominid is just Aliens (as in the movie... headbite) + Metal Slug

I have no issues with copies, I did enjoy God of War, as well as Castle Crashers and Alien Hominid(the flash version at least, never played the console version). It just annoys when people judge a game badly if it has anything in common with any big title of the paste decade(In any of the games I've played I could point out a dozen things taken from other games very easily).

Also just to make a post about the topic, I played the first Force Unleashed and it sucked, I don't hold any hopes for this game.

lord.jeff:
I played the first Force Unleashed and it sucked, I don't hold any hopes for this game.

as far as starwars games go
(in my opinion at least)

Battlefront 2/Rogue Leader = Okay
KotOR 1+2 = Great
All Others = No.

I hated Force Unleashed 2
however the -waves hand- "You will jump off a cliff..." was awesome (even though he doesn't wave his hand...)

Along with KOTOR and the first two flicks, Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II should be included on the better side of that seesaw. That game was nearly a peer of Half-Life, and a whole year earlier to boot.

The only thing I remember about the Force Unleashed 1 was popping it in, and noting how most of the enemies could take several lightsaber slashes to the torso and still stand back up to shoot at you afterward.

After that, I promptly returned my rental copy, and decided that absolutely nothing good can come of the Star Wars franchise from that point forward. If they don't care about even the most basic things in their fantasy universe (laser swords can cut through anything), then why the fuck should I?

It's contradictions like these that dispel the illusion you're trying to create with your game; reminding us that we paid money for these experiences, and how they don't fit into the rules/logic of your own universe. Now instead of a cool tie-in game, we have a marketing switcheroo.

If you were a fan of the series, then you probably felt like you just got scammed.

A week or two later, I did happen upon my friend playing the 360 version, and was unfortunate to watch him flounder with the retardedly poor controls at the point where you pull down an entire Star Destroyer with your mind.

The scene was supposed to be badass and awesome, but all it did was make me laugh out loud.
Laugh at how godawful the controls were ("You can't pull it down until it's PICTURE PERFECTLY ALIGNED"), how laughably worthless the story and characters were, and how amazingly broken and shallow the gameplay was.

The fact that there's now a sequel leads me to believe that there are far more gullible fucks out in the world than I thought possible. But I'm not depressed. I'm not even angry.
I'm merely disappointed.

Wait you said that only the first two movies and KOTOR were good...In the fanboy universe of Star Wars, SW: Battlefront is very highly esteemed...

I honestly still like Star Wars. I've attempted to stop, but breaking addictions is not one of my strong points. Not many things are.

I personally love Star Wars and am a BIG die hard Star Wars fan and I hate all the star wars games that came out in the last 10 years and the prequels. The force unleashed is a HUGE middle finger to all us old school star wars fans from where i stand. The original star wars had the predominant idea of a mystical world where a small ill-equiped force fought a vastly stronger force of evil, but the goodness in their hearts gave them the power to pull it through. The idea of the force gave the whole universe a sense of magic and mystery. The manifestation of the force represented an inside to the character using it.
In the games the force got turned into mana basically, the force manifestations into spells, and the force users into godlike human bulldozers. This is complete bullshit. Who made these games completely missed the idea of star wars.

Y'know, I love Star Wars.

... I also love ripping on Star Wars.

Does that make me a bad person?

niceguy191:
So wait... When you clone a Jedi the clone is as powerful as the original??? Well why the hell don't they make a Jedi clone army? In the first movie (by that I mean Ep. 1) they mention that the clones were altered to make them more obedient, so why not take someone (lets say Darth Maul) who is powerful AND a Sith by choice, clone him a bajillion times and make him follow orders really well. Or even alter them to be MORE powerful.

Forget the death star! Send down a Jedi army 10,000 strong and let them wipe the planet clean in a matter of days, leaving the planet and resources still intact. Who would be able to stand up to a huge Jedi army?? Maybe I'm just over-thinking this or something...

To be honest your idea is more logical and if I am an intergalactic conqueror I would have taken that approach

for anyone who wants to know which actor Starkiller is based on here he is:

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his name is Samuel Witwer. he also voiced him

I quite enjoyed the game, to be honest. It's not the best title in the franchise *coughcoughrepubliccommandocoughcough*, but it was fun to play, and I look forward to the third one.

Why does it sound like he was recording in a bathroom or something?

diggy140892:
I have to agree that this game is the biggest insult to Star Wars fans, WHERE IS BATTLEFRONT 3!!!!!!!!!!!

Im with ya man!! This generation has seen a terrible lack of quality star wars games, With the exception of the Lego spin offs. The Jedi Knight Series was awesome on the PC, You'd think with all the power of the 360 and ps3 the would have come up with better than DUH FARSE UNLEASHED.

We Need
GTA Bounty Hunter- Fly to different planets capture people ect

BattleFront 3!!!! - with DECENT space battles, this is STAR WARS after all!

New Jedi Knight Game, not some god of war physics demo

New Single playa Knights of the Old Republic

TIE FIGHTER VS X-WING

"Vomit through a pen" = George Lucas, sad but true.

yeah the game wasn't that good, BUT...

I'm realy tired of being ripped on as a Star Wars fan, it seems my race is veiwed as one step above people who use riot-shields in MW2, and one step below the reincarnated guards of the the WWII concentration camps.

One of my favorite things about Yahtzee is he gives his spoiler alerts AFTER the spoilers.

Rasputin1:
Is it just me or did the mic/his voice sound a little off?

Concur utterly, as a matter of fact I noticed it slightly in his castlevania video as well...
Ah well...

It is hilarious watching Star Wars fanboys trying to defend this piece of crap. I loved watching Yahtzee rip this game a new one.

I still like like Star Wars, i'm just crazy about it. There's plenty other mature sci-fi franchises out there.

I have a question. Where can I get a pair of those boots from near the start of the video? It was cool and I have the desire to buy some.

The original Dark Forces games were, for the time, pretty nice.

Kulingile:

eyedonutkair:

Kulingile:

Well didn't Yahtzee say that people didn't like it when he talked positively about a game, like his review of Psychonauts. Most people enjoy watching a game get torn to shreds.

Good point. In that case, however, why did he review a game that everyone already knew sucked? :P lol

Because, when Yahtzee reviews a game that everyone knows sucks or a game (like a JRPG) that everyone knows Yahtzee will hate, they expect the review to be hilarious cause then Yahtzee has more ammo to use against the game in order to rip the game a new one.

>.> There have been some games that people thought were good, and I have yet to see a thread with anyone other than fanboys not finding it hilarious.

I agree, Battlefront 3 would be a breath of fresh air in the shitstorm that is the recent Star Wars releases.

Technically, the Zahn books were good too. I know nobody wants to acknowledge any of the books ever existed, but at least one of the dozens of authors knew what he was doing.

AdrianRK:
I personally love Star Wars and am a BIG die hard Star Wars fan and I hate all the star wars games that came out in the last 10 years and the prequels. The force unleashed is a HUGE middle finger to all us old school star wars fans from where i stand.

The idea of the force gave the whole universe a sense of magic and mystery. The manifestation of the force represented an inside to the character using it.

In the games the force got turned into mana basically, the force manifestations into spells, and the force users into godlike human bulldozers. This is complete bullshit. Who made these games completely missed the idea of star wars.

Pretty good summary of my opinion on the franchise: the best thing about Star Wars is the universe it's set in, and a couple of the adventures - the original trilogy, KOTOR, and the Zahn books.

There have been few good additions to the franchise, for two major reasons:

1) They treat the Force like D&D magic, and the actual magic of Star Wars is lost when they do this. Partly it's the setting: there's little to no point in being able to throw fireballs from your fists if fireball-throwing weapons are plentiful and available at easily affordable prices. The original Star Wars films did an excellent job of adapting magic to face this problem: they focused its abilities on foresight, knowledge, understanding, and the like. The Force added clarity to the Jedi's abilities, and physical manifestations of this were rare and powerful. Remember how amazed we all were when Luke deflected the three sting shots fired by Obi-Wan's drone in Episode V, even though he couldn't even see them coming? How his destruction of the Death Star was made possible by the non-material aspect of his powers, the focus, concentration, and connection to the Force? Meanwhile, Marek crashes Star Destroyers with a gesture, or runs around hacking through millions of people with huge storms of Force Lightning. Something is lost when you do this, and it's not just your low cheesiness factor.

2) The original timeline is far too cluttered. Luke Skywalker can't find time for coffee breaks anymore, since he's too busy saving the world. I know all these adventures have to be significant, but seriously, this is getting out of hand.
-Has anyone noticed that KOTOR was set FOUR THOUSAND YEARS before the movies? You don't have to involve anyone named Skywalker. There's 25000 years of history in Star wars, and most of it is pretty empty.* There's room for a hundred times as many bad authors and rubbish games that don't have to tarnish an entire generation's childhood memories.
-The galaxy is big, and the heroes don't need to save all of it. Couldn't we have stories focused on liberating one planet, or one cluster, from tyrants/Sith/etc? When hundreds of writers make their individual works each critical to the survival of the galaxy, it diminishes from the heroes we want to pay attention to. If Luke Skywalker (or, if you prefer, Anakin) isn't #1 on our list of people who saved the universe, someone's doing something wrong. By having so many extremely important stories set in the same period of time with heroes exhibiting fantastically greater (and thus cheesier) Force powers, it makes the most important heroes (and their most important adventures) insignificant and lame.

*Not to mention untold aeons before the Republic was even founded. I must admit, my favorite thing about KOTOR is the idea that Lucasarts created a game that, if it sucked, would not contaminate the timespan covered by the movies, and could thus be largely ignored. Want some ideas for storylines that fit the bill? How about a game based around founding the Republic 25000 years ago, throwing off your Rakatan oppressors? Since you can't leech off the existing franchise, it will have to be original and include characters we can relate to. Or one set on an outlying planet/cluster with a tyrannical government where one or more stranded Jedi have to escape/overthrow said government. Both of these are perfectly significant, but neither of them have to seriously impact the storyline, and if they suck, we aren't obliged to acknowledge their existence.

TL;DR: the two problems are that: (1) people overdo it on the physical aspects of the Force and somewhere lose the only thing that prevented it from being epically cliche and cheesy, which it now is. (2) people keep setting stories in an already-overfilled timeline, instead of following KOTOR's lead and trying to fill in 24500+ years of blank history.

As a result, we end up with stories and powers that ruin, obsolete and generally #$%^& up the original canon that we loved, and they're set in exactly the same time period, making it all the harder for us to pretend they don't exist, and relating them to characters we used to like.

I liked the first game, because for all its flaws it had a decent story and was fun. FU2 has a bit more fun but a lot less story. Decent game, still.
Yes, I like Star Wars. oddly, I don't like the movies (except for the soundtrack), but I love the novels and the games.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Star Wars is still a good franchise.

All you have to do is remove EVERYTHING that Lucas had directorial control over.

Leaving you with Star Wars, Empire, bits of Return and a few other good bits from the novels. Maybe the original RPG.
Oh, but remember it's the original, not the Enhanced versions.

Oh, and Tie Fighter.

The rest is ejaculate.

Actually, just get Joseph Campbell and Jim Henson and give them light sabres. That's the good part of Star Wars.

The game? I deleted it after a minute playing the demo. What a waste of time.

And where would the Holiday Special lie on your list?

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