Critical Miss: An Appeal

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Love the comic haha =P

But ya I'm not particularly offended by them either, but I can see why Microsoft doesnt want people putting stuff like that all over the place.

HankMan:
If you're gunna let people design their own emblems, then LET THEM DESIGN THEIR OWN EMBLEMS!

Yes! Thank you. What did they expect anyway? That we will be mature and not do that shit?

Pfft, ban them all I say, the more the better. Take some dodgy cases aswell for good measure! I actually couldn't care less about the banned peoples pleas...

I just might have to mention one small detail though... I'm a PC only player (oops).

One thing though, do they really have that symbol in the game or did they just take the air force symbol and turn it a bit?

Grey Carter:
An Appeal
But what about that air force symbol... and um... Buddhists.

This is not a Swastika.

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The real Nazis used both versions of the Swastika, as long as it "turns" clockwise it doesn't matter if you tilt it 45 or not.
I don't get why people want to make a distinction between those two, they are the same symbol used by the same people. Which is also why both get banned.

The original Buddhist Swastika on the other hand turns counter-clockwise.
Also, all of them are Swastikas, it doesn't matter who used them or how you arrange them.

Srkkl:

Well I don't see how it would be tastefull. It's a digital image. Stop licking your screen.

D'oh. Surprisingly humorous for a profoundly literal reading.

I am amused.

And frankly, the quality of xbox live could probably only be improved by hitting 3/4 of the population with napalm. Although that is a solution to many problems.

Webcomic: Comparing the taking away of stupid, worthless, hateful images by a private corporation to a state-organised genocide is not cool.

Comments: OMG! YEW CANT SAY THAT! COMPARING THE TAKING AWAY OF STUPID WORTHLESS HATEFUL IMAGES BY A PRIVATE CORPORATION TO A STATE-ORGANISED GENOCIDE IS NOT COOL! and some trolls

So much hate. This comic keeps getting better and better, but its readership sure as hell doesn't.

Autofaux:

Zachary Amaranth:
I found the comic tasteless. And while I know people are going to get on me for being butthurt about whatever they have decided to infer I'm butthurt about, I'm not offended. I still think it was tasteless.

You have been successfully trolled by some webcomic authors. Take a bow.

That was some might fine trolling by Critical Miss

why would you put a goatse in your comic??

that was... disgusting

im starting to understand you are a /b/tard (a user of the /b/ board in 4chan for those that dont know)... but that doesnt make you cool, its just "lol, theyll laugh at my "Troll face" and the "goatse" all i need to do is keep putting memes generated in 4chan and ill be sooooo popular"

or at least thats what you seem to be doing

if im wrong, please excuse my stupidity, but also, please stop with the "4chan" content, im sure you are better than that.

carnkhan4:
Martin Niemller's poem, not the most obvious source of comedy, but it works.

The version inscribed on the U.S. Holocaust memorial museum goes:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.

Originally "First they came for the Communists" - but the US version was changed to "Socialists" because around the Cold War, no American liked a Commie.
Now nobody seems to like a Socialist. Oh, dear.

We're allowed to have crosses in our gamertags by not Manji? Madness.

adderseal:
Hey, I remember that poem from my English GCSE! It's about oppression in an African country, but I can't remember which one.

Its about the holocaust....

Oddly enough, as much as I've hated Microsoft since they killed Windows 3.1 and DOS. I actually find myself in complete agreement with their actions. Now if they weren't only just banning these idiots but having them secretly murdered. Then the world would be an immensely better place.

Krat Arona:
I remember when this comic was actually funny, and not trying to send a message.

Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped

This is one of them.

I kinda of agree with this...
Nine times out of ten, if someone is using an image like that, they'll be a troll. If their not a troll then they should know better.

Public opinion is the number 1 priority on Microsoft's list.
they only ban the things the public find offensive.

...thank god they ban Swastikas and not Panda's or the Dutch ...

Casimir_Effect:

Daffy F:

Casimir_Effect:
Seriously people. Hands up if you knew this comic was sardonic.

*Hand-up*
OT: I think anyone who uses a swastika should be banned. Partly because It takes no originality, and is overdone, but mainly because in Germany, that shit is illegal. You can't expect this to be passed by. It's insensitive, and 90% of the people who were banned won't know what they've been banned for. Which is a fucking disgrace.

This right here, this is the only fucking comment which should have appeared when news stories announced the Swastika ban. Rather than all the comments about restricted freedoms and "I've paid for the service so why can't I be as bigger dick as I want to be on it?" that were posted.

Are you complimenting me?

Daffy F:

Casimir_Effect:

Daffy F:
*Hand-up*
OT: I think anyone who uses a swastika should be banned. Partly because It takes no originality, and is overdone, but mainly because in Germany, that shit is illegal. You can't expect this to be passed by. It's insensitive, and 90% of the people who were banned won't know what they've been banned for. Which is a fucking disgrace.

This right here, this is the only fucking comment which should have appeared when news stories announced the Swastika ban. Rather than all the comments about restricted freedoms and "I've paid for the service so why can't I be as bigger dick as I want to be on it?" that were posted.

Are you complimenting me?

Yes, in my own Scottish way.

Unless your entire comment was sarcastic in a way to mimic the comic, ie. that you felt the ban was stupid and a breach of people's rights.

HankMan:
If you're gunna let people design their own emblems, then LET THEM DESIGN THEIR OWN EMBLEMS!

And if you're gonna let people own guns, then LET ME SHOOT PEOPLE!

Oh wait, it's a business we're talking about? And we have a Terms of Use policy? Microsoft is the one providing the service, and they have the final say on what can be done/shown on Xbox Live. If your actions are giving them a bad reputation and costing them potential money, they have no reason at all to keep you as customer.

I may not mind it, but it's kind of sad in a way that there's an entire culture that has just grown complacent with such things. We are not doing Video Games as a medium any good if they're associated with Nazism and Penises. There is a place for that kind of content. It's called 4chan.

dude, your missin the whole point! its no about you knowing their douchbags and not bein offended, its about those people who actually give a crap about stuff like this and dont want it in there face. im so fed up of everyone yellin "human rights" when ever a corporation steps on them. You cant just claim "human rights" coz Microsoft dont like what your postin. the right to the freedom of speech is not something you just have its something you have to earn. just coz the HRA says you cant be silenced on the issues that are important doesn't mean that you have the right to go throwin you vagina all over the place. dont believe me? im a 2nd year law student. look it up.
also, just coz your not offended by it, and your cunt friends arent offended by it doesnt mean its not offensive. if i was a Jewish mom i wouldnt want my little kid goin online to see cocks and holocaust reminders all over the fuckin place. dont get me wrong, i think that society can go WAY over the top in the name of "protecting the innocence of children". Especially when they teach them sex ed at 10. i just think that some of this stuff shouldnt be up there. if u let the trolls have their nazi related fun without some sort of censorship then not only are you going to alienate a HEAUGE proportion of players, but your goin to get trolls pushin bigger and bigger taboos. just look what happened to that youtube girl who said she was better than the people on 4chan.
"i cant eat, i cant sleep" not good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSTyHsKu6og
im not sayin you should just bend over and let microsoft ban everythin that would every offend anyone ever...... just........ this is too much.....
try and see it from there side.
XxxX

I am in Japan right now, and there are swastikas all over the temples and shrines, no one seems to care, personally I find it hilarious to see people bowing to a swastika.

Straying Bullet:
Being banned from CoD: BO should be considered an divine intervention. Go 'waste' your gaming time on some better titles, seriously.

Glad Im not the only one who thinks the same way, as for the topic at hand, ban them, they most likely deserve it

Does anyone know whether other consoles are adopting this ban or if its contained to Xbox Live? And, yes, it might be a tasteless symbol, but I don't really mind it. Regardless of what they were fighting for, the German military in World War II performed rather well if memory serves.

njsykora:

Onyx Oblivion:
You always act like only Xbox Live is full of douchebags...when on PSN, I found douchebags on Castle Crashers. The last game on earth that I would ever expect to find douchebags on. And let's not act like PC is perfect, either.

However Xbox Live is the only service that's famous for its douchebag quotient.

Xbox Live and its users tends to get more attention in general as far as the current generation of console online gaming

not a great repute to hold when PSN, and heck not to mention the masses using PCs to game, but eh what can you do (except not troll)

albino boo:
Kinda ironic, the original quote is from a propaganda piece for the proto fascist state of Augustinian Rome.

really? i was always under the impression it was from the 1950s by a German man you had spent time in a concentration camp (I assume by Augustinian Rome, you're refering to the period of Rome that Augustus ruled?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

People are still going on about the Swastika emblem?

HentMas:
why would you put a goatse in your comic??

that was... disgusting

im starting to understand you are a /b/tard (a user of the /b/ board in 4chan for those that dont know)... but that doesnt make you cool, its just "lol, theyll laugh at my "Troll face" and the "goatse" all i need to do is keep putting memes generated in 4chan and ill be sooooo popular"

or at least thats what you seem to be doing

if im wrong, please excuse my stupidity, but also, please stop with the "4chan" content, im sure you are better than that.

You're wrong. I'm not a 4 chan user. (though I have been known to browse the wallpaper section occasionally) The famous Goatse.cx shock image was launched in 1999, 4 chan wasn't founded until 2003. If 4 chan "generated" goatse.cx then it did so Marty McFly style.

tthor:

albino boo:
Kinda ironic, the original quote is from a propaganda piece for the proto fascist state of Augustinian Rome.

really? i was always under the impression it was from the 1950s by a German man you had spent time in a concentration camp (I assume by Augustinian Rome, you're refering to the period of Rome that Augustus ruled?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

He's refering to the "Dulce Et Decorum est" quote in the comic's tagline. Not the poem I was parodying in the actual strip.

tthor:

albino boo:
Kinda ironic, the original quote is from a propaganda piece for the proto fascist state of Augustinian Rome.

really? i was always under the impression it was from the 1950s by a German man you had spent time in a concentration camp (I assume by Augustinian Rome, you're refering to the period of Rome that Augustus ruled?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

Dulce et decorum est pro xbox livus actus douchebagus is reference to Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori which was written by Horace somewhere around 20 BC. However Dulce et decorum est these days is best know from the Wilfred Owen poem who used the original sentiment of how sweet it is to die for ones country in bitter and ironic way.

what is a swastika?

dmcc85:
what is a swastika?

go to wikipedia, type it swastika. it is that simple.

Staskala:

Grey Carter:
An Appeal
But what about that air force symbol... and um... Buddhists.

This is not a Swastika.

image

The real Nazis used both versions of the Swastika, as long as it "turns" clockwise it doesn't matter if you tilt it 45 or not.
I don't get why people want to make a distinction between those two, they are the same symbol used by the same people. Which is also why both get banned.

The original Buddhist Swastika on the other hand turns counter-clockwise.
Also, all of them are Swastikas, it doesn't matter who used them or how you arrange them.

You raise some good point, it is worth mentioning that ancient (and I mean REALLY ancient) swastika symbols appeared in both clockwise and counterclockwise fashion. And yes, tilted and untilted.
however, the tilted non stylized clockwise black sastika on a white circle in a red square was the nazi flag. That combination is quite distinct.

I would say it really has to do with context. But:
1. its entirely microsoft's decision.
2. it will indeed be bad press to allow it.
3. the xbox live is really not the place to "take it back" (if you even have an inclination to do so)

Fuck you. Just... Fuck you. There are certain things you should never make fun of or parody, you don't parody them out of a certain amount of respect, you realize that it will be offensive and you understand why the measures were enforced. This is just fucking stupid, insulting, offensive and a new low. You have singlehandedly brought the average maturity and respectability of gamers and escapists, and I hope your're proud.

Warachia:
Fuck you. Just... Fuck you. There are certain things you should never make fun of or parody, you don't parody them out of a certain amount of respect, you realize that it will be offensive and you understand why the measures were enforced. This is just fucking stupid, insulting, offensive and a new low. You have singlehandedly brought the average maturity and respectability of gamers and escapists, and I hope your're proud.

Sorry could to repeat that? Mel Brooks couldn't hear you.

lacktheknack:

The MuthR FuthR:
"""So, your assertion that "no one else will [laugh]" has failed"""

how did it fail?

Eh, I went back and read all your posts, so I have a clearer reference here.

Just because you CAN laugh at something doesn't mean you SHOULD. Imagine if your dog died, and someone stood of to the side and laughed while pointing for an hour. Would you be good with that?

Hyperbole is a fairly vital part of satire. Obviously being banned is not the same thing as being murdered so drawing a connecting between the two tangentially through a similar phrasing as a famous poem makes the entire thing absurd from the start. It seeks to highlight the absurdity of the complaints that "being a douche bag has repercussions and that's not fair" that are abound every time some group of people is banned for participating in douchebaggery.

Eclectic Dreck:

lacktheknack:

The MuthR FuthR:
"""So, your assertion that "no one else will [laugh]" has failed"""

how did it fail?

Eh, I went back and read all your posts, so I have a clearer reference here.

Just because you CAN laugh at something doesn't mean you SHOULD. Imagine if your dog died, and someone stood of to the side and laughed while pointing for an hour. Would you be good with that?

Hyperbole is a fairly vital part of satire. Obviously being banned is not the same thing as being murdered so drawing a connecting between the two tangentially through a similar phrasing as a famous poem makes the entire thing absurd from the start. It seeks to highlight the absurdity of the complaints that "being a douche bag has repercussions and that's not fair" that are abound every time some group of people is banned for participating in douchebaggery.

No, I liked the comic. I understand the satire and ridiculousness of drawing a line between troll bans and concentration camps.

What the guy I was quoting was saying, though, is that people laugh at swastikas, and that's why they shouldn't be banned. That's silly.

Casimir_Effect:

Yes, in my own Scottish way.

Unless your entire comment was sarcastic in a way to mimic the comic, ie. that you felt the ban was stupid and a breach of people's rights.

Thanks, and no I wasn't being sarcastic. It's important to understand why other people are offended by things. Are people really so stuck on the idea that they should be allowed to do what they want with their emblem, that they're willing to seriously offend a whole country? It's really fucking rude.

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