289: What Happens in New Vegas

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I played on the 360 and had none of these problems. However, if you're playing a game like Fallout, not having backup saves is asinine.

Russ, try playing it on PC. I've done in excess of 100+ hrs and encountered only the odd clipping issue and a few minor bugs along the way.

My gripe is the vaults felt way too few and generic and there is obviously some additional content that was half finished or deliberately left out which i'm sure we'll be slogged dollars for in the near future.

I honestly did not expect a console version of a game to be so unstable. Without any mods, I would only get one crash in two days and I played about 10 hours a day (don't judge me, I use games to procrastinate) on my pc.

one annoying thing was that I knew I wasted a lot of time doing was; unless you already knew who not to talk to, you will be unable to start two of your companion quests. I currently don't have access to X-box live (the router at my house hates me, and I need to take my system to an X-box live friendly place so I can update my games) so if I talk to some people, two of my companions will not start their quest.

the annoying part about this is that if the people making "New Vegas" decided to wait a month so that they can Debug the game, they would have come out with the best game of the year, outshining their competitors by less then a mile. but they didn't, and people can easaly see the shotty finish.

BTW I'm still mad about how Obsidian lied about how the NCA and Cecars legion were politacly hard choices. Insted they gave us the NCA; no different from our military, along with it's crappy leaders far from danger. And Cecars Legion; a rape them all army, who enslaves women, and crucify anybody who looks at them wrong. ya, it's a hard choice to pick who you like, that is if I was a sociopath with no real understanding between right and wrong.

Russ Pitts:
Russ Pitts is on a "bug hunt" in Fallout: New Vegas.

I've found the bugs when the creatures get stuck in the landscape quite a few times. I've not had any crashes with it yet *knocks on the desk* but then I am only Level 6 and slowly making my way around the areas south of Primm.

Playing games like this on my girlfriend's brother's X360 probably makes me look like a bit of a cheapskate, doesn't it?

Wow, I'm amazed. I have had a few CTD's on PC but otherwise it's been absolutely fine. Sorry to hear you've had such a shitty time of it.

ill just say this....New Vegas is not worth buying brand new... get it used.....Or you can just do wha ti did.. Get terribly disappointed playing New Vegas, feel like shit for pre-ordering it, giveint to one of your friends cuz you cant even stand looking at the game, go to a eb and buy Oblivion Game of the Year for 25$ and play the shit out of that till skyrim comes out

I've beat this game twice on my Xbox and it's only crashed 2 or 3 times in 80+ hours of play.....

Wow.

Glad I play the PC version. I'm told it had its bugs too, and a lot of them are clearly supposed to be endemic to the entire game regardless of platform, but I just did not have these kinds of problems.

On rare occasions, I would see a critter stuck on a railroad track. Aw, it caught its widdle footy onna split-up tie. *BAM* Yay free XP!

I NEVER had a hard crash happen. Ever. Before or after the "Big Patch". With or without running tons of mods (which I currently do).

"Save Often, Save Well" has been my gaming creed for RPGs since the '80s. I rarely needed to backtrack more than a couple saves to deal with the worst plot-advancement issues. Though I DID get locked into fighting for Yes Man when I WANTED to fight for the NCR, because I ignored the flavor text preceding a particular mission that said "do this and you're locked in". As a result, I ran the anti-assassination mission for NCR, and succeeded, but still couldn't launch their side of the Hoover Dam battle. With the Big Patch, of course, you now get a popup telling you flat-out that continuing to work for Faction A will turn Faction B entirely against you...

So, yeah. Played, enjoyed, sorry you didn't...try a PC next time. -;)

I suffered 0 crashes from my 100+ hours of New Vegas, my Xbox froze a few time but that happens after I've played too long anyway. Also the starting quest is a bit misleading, you want to be at least level 3 before you can do it (to get the necessary skill checks if you want dynamite/armor/help), also I did experience occasional odd clipping, but after the patching I had severely less issues, I did have occasional issues with quests (but no missing NPCs), as far as Karma it has little effect on gameplay now, I've actually farmed NCR guys for loot to sell without losing rep (Sneak attacks). Also the game making you side with one faction isn't as bad as you make it out to be, why hell at the end of the game I had a robot army (No Gods, No Masters). overall this article just seems whiny...

"my xbox has frozen again and its back to square one"
well theres your problem you played new vegas on xbox its like playing black ops on ps3 and expecting the game not to disconnect contently

WOW how did you manage to crash that much? Seriously that's awful. I played the majority of the game pre-patch on 360 and got maybe 4 or 5 crashes. Post-patch I haven't crashed at all except once (after I had played it for about 6 hours straight). You either have terrible luck or terrible ventilation.

I'll just chime in with the choir and say that the PC version got 60 hours in before I experienced even my first bug. A guy hung in the air for a bit, until I got close and he came down again. I haven't experienced a single crash, which is more than I can say for the original Fallout 3 that crashed four times during that dreary "growing up in the vault" bit.

Weird, for me it was no crashes, limited small bugs, just loads of fun :)

I am on the Xbox 360 version.

tman_au:
My gripe is the vaults felt way too few and generic and there is obviously some additional content that was half finished or deliberately left out which i'm sure we'll be slogged dollars for in the near future.

If you mean textually, then I agree (though the vaults would be built the same as a rule of thumb). Some areas felt extremely familiar (sewers, caves, cloned houses) and the more interesting Vegas strip is only a tiny part of a bland brown and grey map. However if you're saying the ideas around the vaults were boring, I would argue Vault 11 was one of the better vault ideas...

Ahh a thread raging about the bugs in Fallout: New Vegas. Probably more appropriate awhile ago when the same problems were still occuring with the game, but still valid complaints. I played the PC version myself with only one problem, the gates of Vegas decided to relock on me. Fortunately, you use the console to fix it on the computer :)

tman_au:
Russ, try playing it on PC. I've done in excess of 100+ hrs and encountered only the odd clipping issue and a few minor bugs along the way.

My gripe is the vaults felt way too few and generic and there is obviously some additional content that was half finished or deliberately left out which i'm sure we'll be slogged dollars for in the near future.

Yeah I thought that was annoying too, most of the vaults in the first two games were pretty unique. I guess when you have a meal ticket like Fallout it's hard to get motivated though.

i swear i have the best luck with buggy games, New Vegas has only ever crashed once on my xbox and apart from that the only glitch ive had was when a Deathclaw randomly materialized in front of me although that was sorta funny. And ive never had problems with Fallout 3 or Oblivion for that matter. My SPECIAL Luck must be at 10

Aaand thats what you get for playing a buggy game on a console.
Seriously,My brother completed the game in 25 hours.
He DID used the godmode cheat but that only reduces the amount of grind in order to defeat someone.

This game seems awesome but the bugs are the issue for me. Well now that there has been a patch update I think that I will buy this game at some point. I still don't get Obsidian. Why are they releasing broken games all the time??? Are they even testing their games?

Is it really that bad? Still? Damn, I bought this bugfest for my Xbox a few weeks back and wanted to start playing in a few days, but... damn!

Anything I should definately avoid doing in the New Vegas? Don't want my Xbox/savegames to get fucked up by actually wanting to choose sides...

I didn't have nearly the number of troubles Russ did. Though it locked up around 8 times in the 70 your of play I invested. I never hit any hugely hindering bugs. It's frustrating though when you have to look on the Internet to check for bugs before you do anything. It's like your walking through te Mojave looking for signs that other wonderers have written, except instead of "here be ants" the poorly scribbled text on the bathroom stall is "watch out for glitches in this area. Be prepared to hard boot your xbox." It's a poorly put together game and all of the people at Obsidian should feel bad for not fixing stuff. Although I did only pay 40$ for it.... Hooray after Christmas sales!

That's odd. I have the game for 360 and have only ever had one freeze, which was most likely due to overheating. I've probably played from more than 100 hours as well, seeing that I'm on my second playthrough and I began the DLC the other day. I have had annoying bugs here or there, but not major ones. I see online that "The Thorn" is insanely-super-buggy yet I was fortunate enough to spend a few hours in there going after a few 10000 damage achievements and never had a problem. I guess I'm just lucky when it comes to avoiding bugs and crashes.

I never got any bugs but I did get at least 5 crashes/freezups when I was playing New Vegas. This kind of absolute, fucktard of a shitty QA is absolutely unacceptable and it's a wonder how Obsidian (who are known for their fucktard of a shitty QA) is still allowed to still release content like this.

It's absolutely pathetic. I doubt I will buy anything from Obsidian until they get their shit together, and Bethesda is on thin ice for me. I know that all the bugs and stuff is part of the company's image, with modders coming in to save the day, but a game shouldn't depend on modders fixing everything. It's just pathetic.

I have the 360 version and got by with very few problems. The game froze only once and there was a bug or two now and then but nothing big. Except for the time I left the Helios One building and Old Lady Gibson and her dogs fell from the sky and attacked me.

That's weird. I have played about 200 hours and I have crashed only twice. Also, I'm on the PC version.

Xerosch:
Is it really that bad? Still? Damn, I bought this bugfest for my Xbox a few weeks back and wanted to start playing in a few days, but... damn!

Anything I should definately avoid doing in the New Vegas? Don't want my Xbox/savegames to get fucked up by actually wanting to choose sides...

Just be careful of the come fly with me quest. Save before you do it, because it can corrupt saves made after completing the quest sometimes.

I only got rad scorpions that fell through the ground and occasional random freezes.

Mechsoap:
Strange, i only experienced 1 crash doing exactly the same thing as what stood in the article. Though i had it for the PC so that could be what made a difference.

PC actually got it worse. You must be luck then. Go buy a lottery ticket. The PC version was the one with the most reported crashes.

The amount of creatures I've found stuck in the ground is pretty astounding.
Which is weird because I don't remember that being a problem when I played Fallout3.

Dear god, I manage to send the ghouls to space after about 15 hours of play XD man you really took your time with the game.

The only real bug i have experienced on my Steam copy at 25% off during holiday sales :P was the town of Primm trying to murder me after i picked out their sheriff.

Walked outside the casino and suddenly everyone in the place is outside and shooting me >.<

O wells wholesale town genocide is fun too XD

Also didn't even get to do any missions in Nipton cause whats his face mr. rude didn't show me some respect when talking to me. So i blew his head off and immediately failed the mission he had just given me XD

AzrealMaximillion:

Mechsoap:
Strange, i only experienced 1 crash doing exactly the same thing as what stood in the article. Though i had it for the PC so that could be what made a difference.

PC actually got it worse. You must be luck then. Go buy a lottery ticket. The PC version was the one with the most reported crashes.

But the PC version also has the modders who have actually been able to patch it and make the game more playable than any other platform. Those guys should get paid.
At least pay them the money that would go to the beta testers for the PC version who were obviously never hired.

I guess it's just bad luck cause my main game is at like 150 hours and the only real problem I had in it was in one of my other playthroughs where I set the bomb on the train but it wouldn't explode.

p.s. I'm playing it on the 360 if that helps.

Crashing seemed similar to FO3 in that they appeared to affect the game the older the saves got, and the longer I'd been playing that day, the less the game was inclined to work. Early in the game I almost went as far as to believe it was bugless... early as in the tutorial. The first crash appeared when entering the leaving the gas station for the first time. The last mission never stuttered or crashed however and I've done it a bunch of times, maybe in this case it's one small victory for the PS3. So depressingly small, getting to it was a 15 crash a day situation.

Also I'm guessing you ran everywhere like me? I fast travelled twice. Once I was forced to. The other time I didn't feel like running back th the El Dorado Substation just to run back to he Strip 10 seconds later.

Russ Pitts:
What Happens in New Vegas

Russ Pitts is on a "bug hunt" in Fallout: New Vegas.

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you do know that you could fly around the world 3 times AND play fallout new vegas ;) !

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