Jimquisition: Accountability

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Yeah. This shit is getting out of hand. My brother was so pissed when he had to create a GFWL account to play a steam game. Nice video, Jim. As always.

I'm signing up for Jimquisition +. That deep tongue kissing sounds awesome.

I was having the same bitching session with a mate of mine just last week.
I'm subscribed to a lot of the same services Jim mentions - and more :/ (If my main PC wasn't out of action atm. I would write a little list to highlight the ridiculousness)
It's damn annoying.

You want a quick game of SF IV on PC? Sign in to Steam. Oh, and GFWL too please. Wait, though!
Capcom needs to make a proprietary network too... then I could sign in to three different networks before I get to play.
Also, quite funny when Steam goes down. Or GFWL. Or both.
And with funny, I think I mean 'retarded'.

Meh. I don't think companies realise that not all of us are super online-social either.
I don't sign in to Steam because I want to use it's vast network of friends and stats. I sign in because I have to. Because I bought a game there and it requires Steam.
Same with all the other networks I'm on.

Stop adding proprietary networks and random software just for the sake of it.

Also, I can see these various networks are going to do nothing more than split up the user-base more and more, which is counter productive to a healthy gaming community.

I'd forgotten how many shitty services I'm technically signed up to, although the only ones ever used nowadays are Steam and Xbox Live (FUCK Windows live gaming), but in the past been forced to use such bollocks as that EA downloader system. Would have no issue with it if they were voluntary, but they never are.

None of it is necessary, all of it is tedious. Except Steam, which is awesome. Most of the time. Until the servers go down. Or something breaks. Or some weirdo insists on trying to contact you 20 times a day and you feel too guilty to block them.

And yet the video ended with an ad to upgrade to the Escapist's Publisher's club... ironic?

Good points. Sure some publisher apologists will be in soon to tell you hwy you are wrong, why you re an ungrateful bastard, why we need to be the bitch of the industry, and why they will never watch jimquisition again.

flaming_squirrel:

None of it is necessary, all of it is tedious. Except Steam, which is awesome. Most of the time. Until the servers go down. Or something breaks. Or some weirdo insists on trying to contact you 20 times a day and you feel too guilty to block them.

i know. Since summer started i have not logged into STEAm because my baby cousin is going to be on all the time asking if i want to game with him. Waiting until July 4th so i can feign sickness, work, whatever as reason for lack of activity; so i can enjoy fireworks and burgers guilt free & turn right the fuck around and block him until September. I guess that constitutes a heart dosen't it?

Because when i unblock the punk i make damn sure he dosen't turn right around and pm me again.

Mouse_Crouse:
Must say I did not care for this series when it first started. But I have officially become a fan. The production has gotten better and better and I get a good laugh out of his bit.

My only real complaint is when he's on camera the sound quality goes to shit in a sandbag.

Is he using different mics or something. It is just jarring how it goes from clear witty commentary to staticky shit I don't want to listen to.

''Jimquisition plus''...
Where do i sign my soul away for this fantastic service, oh lord Jim!?

WaaghPowa:
holy shit, I actually agree with him on this part.

First: if console games are about picking up and playing, why is there so many steps? Patching, installing, accounts, subscriptions etc. It's turning into PC gaming, and I expect at some point that the publishers will force entering serial codes at some point.

Second: DRM, yes, treating us like criminals is not the best way to go about business

They already are. With your game you receive a code you need to enter in order to play online and access services such DLC, patches or service updates.

I am more worried about the day consoles are powerful enough to have Digital Distribution.
Just imagine it:
Your Xbox has a Microsoft Store, where you can buy your games, you can't buy them from anywhere else. All games for the Xbox Galaxies can be obtained EXCLUSIVELY through DD and nowhere else, but their store. And Microsoft can initiate whatever policies they want and do whatever they want with your account, and it's fair game - because of the EULA.
And this is the same for Sony with the Playstore and Nintendo with the N-Kingdom.

Just so people know - I am for going full time Digital Distribution and leaving retailers and boxed copies in the dust, but without competition ( and they can do it in their case ) it's not a good thing.

WaaghPowa:
holy shit, I actually agree with him on this part.

First: if console games are about picking up and playing, why is there so many steps? Patching, installing, accounts, subscriptions etc. It's turning into PC gaming, and I expect at some point that the publishers will force entering serial codes at some point.

Second: DRM, yes, treating us like criminals is not the best way to go about business

My step dad bought Dirt 3 for xbox 360 used. It came with a code (that didnt work) to unlock half the cars and to unlock multiplayer and several tracks. There are already codes on consoles.
Every time the games starts is asks to enter the code or buy one and it takes like 10 secs to hit the buy later button. This on a game my step dad bought legally. (He didn't know about project ten dollar).

Traun:
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bootz:
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I was more referring to the way PC games are done, you buy it, it's yours, too bad.

But yes, the online passes exist and are rather tedious. It's silly that you can't just play the game online anymore and require things such as subscriptions and online passes.

I don't much like Jim. Not for his obvious show of arrogance - I mostly don't mind that - but there's just something about him...

Well, anyway, that said, this was a good episode which I totally agree with. I probably have even more stupid accounts than I can think of and it's so damn annoying. That's where the hotmail account comes in handy.

Yeah, I'm sick of getting something on Steam and having to log in somewhere else as well to play. Want to play C&C4? Better get your EA login ready. Red Faction Guerrilla? Get that Windows Live ID ready so you can get messages from your Xbox Live friends and Steam friends at the same time while you try to play. God dammit publishers knock it off. All you're doing is making things a bigger pain in the ass for paying customers. Meanwhile, people who pirate your game don't have to deal with any of that shit. This is what we get for being an honest customer who hands over their hard earned cash? How about this: If you put your game on Steam, take out your own bullshit logins and just use Steam DRM, at least for that version. If you don't like that, don't put your game on Steam at all. Just leave it exclusive to the EA store or the Games for Windows store. After you make just about no money that way, maybe you'll like the first option more.

...Jimquisition Plus?

Mouse_Crouse:
Must say I did not care for this series when it first started. But I have officially become a fan. The production has gotten better and better and I get a good laugh out of his bit.

My only real complaint is when he's on camera the sound quality goes to shit in a sandbag.

Is he using different mics or something. It is just jarring how it goes from clear witty commentary to staticky shit I don't want to listen to.

Edit: Could anyone in the publishers club confirm it's not just the low quality version or something. I'll admit I'm an audiofile with most of my music library in flac, but the static drives me insane when he's on camera.

This is the first video in which I absolutely agree with Jim... except for the part about other mediums moving toward instant gratification more quickly. In addition to my thousand and one gaming accounts, I also have a good hundred accounts for video streaming services, book clubs and email. Gaming is just leading the pack for complexity, as usual... but it all started with rampant marketing from other consumer services.
We denizens of first-world nations are consumers first and foremost, in the eyes of every corporation that sells to the public (and before you argue that corporations don't have eyes... remember that legally, they're people too... at least since 1819. More's the pity).

**edit**
Also, I'd like to retract the statement I made long, long ago... when I said Jim had nothing new to say. He does have some insight. Bravo, Jim.

despite the fact that i think jim basically states the obvious i am growing quite fond of the show. It still peaked with the last episode.

This was very jimpressive stuff.

He voices my frustration really well.

And people wonder why there's piracy with the shit he mentioned. I shed no tears for any of the large publishers for being pirated after the way they treat paying customers.

It seems like the more loyal a customer is, the worse they are treated and the more money is shaken from their pockets while DRM and fees and subscriptions hold them upside down.

Oh and get ready those lips, I'm subscribing, Jimmy-Jim-Jim

Although you make some good points, I feel most of your opinions are extremely dependent of the quality of the games for which we have to "endure" this inconvenience...
Would you still be as mad if instead of the Last Templar or Dead Space 2 multiplayer they were using it for Bioshock or Battlefield 3 multiplayer?

Good one, Jim! It pays to mainly game on consoles with no use of the online services. I can just pick up and play. But this is what publishers want: total control of the consumer.

I almost forgot to take my Vitamins. Thanks Jim!

I see a common theme in what's wrong with games today... people having to put there personal info in just to play a game... and then that personal info being hacked away by malicious hackers...

How about this... STOP ASKING US TO FUCKING GIVE YOU OUR CONTACT INFORMATION!!! Publishers are retarded (yes Palin, I said retarded).

Good episode with some spot on points there. I can clearly remember being very frustrated to find that in order to play Dragon Age and (especially) Mass Effect 2, I had to sign up for an EA account. Also, Assassins Creed Brotherhood multiplayer. Want this nifty looking character for your multiplayer game? OK then, just sign up for this uplay account. What's that, can't connect to the uplay server? Sorry, no extra characters or uplay achievements for you then.

I'm guessing I won't be able to play Mass Effect 3 until I've severed my own right hand off, shipped it to EA and waited for them to send me an EA-certified Quarian hand attachment that will include the code needed to run the game.

Though nothing has compared to trying to log in to play Spore. An epic struggle if ever there was one, all to play a game that was a steaming pile of excrement anyway.

Did he just quote Hulk Hogan with the prayers and vitamins?

Still, I agree with everyone else here. DRM sucks monkeyfuck.

It was a funny episode, and I do intend to purchase Jimquisition Plus to prove my love for the show, as well as receive a fridge magnet. That must be a fantastic fridge magnet if it's $40.

Hah, I loved that crack at the haters at the end. I completely agree with this stuff. I mean, GFWL actually has you create an account even when you AREN'T USING GFWL. Seriously?

I already took my vitamins, and my lutein, and my saw palmetto, and my Coenzyme Q10, and my Ginkgo Biloba. But thanks anyway.

I'm not really having the problem expressed in this video? Is this only a multiplayer thing? I can't think of any game I play were I have to do anything beyond {turn console on, pick game, play}.

its about time THEY had to prove their loyalty to us turn about is fair play as they say.

probably the worst bit on gaming i've seen on the escapist ever
it's like you sat down and let "enraged random commentator #378539" write the script for you

there are a lot of good reasons for every single thing you criticized
some are inevitable and some are a more or less useful trend

or in short:
since none of those big publishers had to close down by now it doesn't seem to concern a big enough amount of people

Totally agree. Hope some other escapist shows hammer this home...

Love you too Jim.

What publishers ask you to do to play a game sometimes is madness, also it doesn't really equal what you are getting for it, even if the game is good. I mean how many other things are there that you get to buy and have to show so much personal details for? Think partly you can buy a car easier than that.

Nice one! I loved the Lulzsec joke at the start XD

Wow, that was actually a pretty good episode. Still a little more mugging than I would have liked, but the salient points were well addressed and the show moved in a steady, unified direction.

The sarcastic snipe at our hackers was nicely done, too.

Very, very true. The joke at the beginning was hilarious. Great episode.

Fine point.

I like this guy because he's beating a slightly different drum to the other folk on the escapist.

I mean, liking call of duty!!! Whatever next?!?!

Jim's starting to grow on me. I might just enter that Jim+ contest :p

It's a good point for this week. Just to play DA:O, I have to use a PSN account, then an EA account, then insert a code for any unlockables, all just to play the game. I have a similar experience with Ubisoft games.

It goes to show that while honest customers are forced to jump through hoops to enjoy a game, pirates rarely do. Every time a developer puts in a new security function to halt piracy or deter used game sales, the paying customers always take it in the pants. It makes me want to buy fewer games, not more.

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