Escape to the Movies: Captain America

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Oh, thank GOD they didn't screw it up THIS TIME ;)

Googled just for lols, but turns out "Captain Russia" is a thing. Weird.

So I have to see Thor first, for Captain America much of a plot make sense to me ?

No. Captain America just doesn't take time out to exlpain WHY norse gods are believed real and why their tech is there. The movie as a whole will make sense still.

Almost a perfect movie huh? Excellent! I cannot wait to see this, I have loved every movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe this far. If I do end up loving Captain America then Marvel would have made three excellent movies this year. What about you DC, can you make a good movie that doesn't involve Batman? I think not.

Great review Bob.

Kakita:
I have to ask why some are concerned about you being expected to have seen a previous movie.

They are effectively a series. We've know this since Iron Man 1, we've known this with the stinger of each film and the carry over characters. We've know this if we've read any news on the movies at all.

This isn't a case of reading a comic and having a tie-in story in another comic you weren't told about.

This is akin to going to see Deathly Hallows 2 and being confused that you needed to see Half Blood Prince or any of the other films to make full sense of it.

Because, unfortunately, not every person who sees Captain America will see Thor or Iron Man. Why? Because some people just don't care about Marvel overly-gushy pet project.

Dana22:
So I have to see Thor first, for Captain America much of a plot make sense to me ?

No some minor hints towards Thor but nothing more. You can still follow the movie fine.

I guess this really means no fantastic four cameo in the avengers movie :'(

I've never been able to take CA seriously. It's good to see him in a setting that actually suits him-beating up nazis with jetpacks.

So, you're saying it's good?

Actually, I'm very glad to hear that, because my mom, of all people, wants to go see this and asked me to go with her.

Hollock:
I guess this really means no fantastic four cameo in the avengers movie :'(

Seeing as the Fantastic Four just hasn't worked and the most recent imagining was a complete flop and too new to change I'd be surprised if they went for it.

Anyway, I have to admit this and Thor were the most likely to fail in my mind, good to see it working out! I'll go see it once it's released here.

I'm glad to hear it's a good movie, and I'm certainly going to go see it, but (begging your indulgence) I wanted to comment on a blurb in the end credits.

Re: Spider-Man. (Sorry, "The Amazing Spider-Man".) I didn't think it looked bad; it's all the things I've heard about it that make me squirm: That it was to be a lower-budget movie focused largely on teen melodrama a'la Smallville. And that it's existence is allegedly owed largely to the suits who couldn't keep their clumsy mitts off of Spider-Man 3 getting into such a shoving match with the director and cast that one of them finally said, "Fine! We'll make a new Spider-Man without you! You'll see!"

But what did irk me about the preview was sort of odd. There's a sequence where we move around from Spidey's perspective, climbing on ceilings, leaping off of buildings, etc. And it's rather well done. But in the conclusion of the preview, I felt myself saying "That's what you wanted to show me? Another damn special effects sequence that exists entirely for its own sake?! Aren't we getting spoon-fed enough of this shit?"

It's sort of a pity- I rather like Emma Stone.

Well, I know what I'm doing tomorrow... Good to hear that they got it right: out of all of 'em, I thought that Captain America would've been the easiest to screw up.

A relief, really. A few newspaper reviews painted it as merely competent, not a 'perfect' film. Like you said, even that might have been enough to avoid ruining Avengers by association (as in the kind of pall Green Lantern might cast on a Justice League movie).

If there was one that could've been screwed up royally it would be Cap's 'big nice guy patriot' persona in an age where such a thing has been all but relegated to the dustbin of history for Superheroes. Ironically, a lot of the storylines taking place after he was thawed out play on that kind of conflict- Cap being too uppity and morally straightforward for our time. The same personal problem as with Superman really, but for at least twenty years of movies, TV and comics he's had to deal with the way his powers and the propaganda of his chief nemesis work to distance him from his adopted people despite all his efforts. Cap's not quite that strong, but such a tension between him and the regular soldiers he works with is certainly feasible. He has to earn their respect through teamwork, to prove himself more than just a mascot in bright colors.

Hopefully Marvel can continue this winning streak into the main event, bringing out the best of these comic book legends when they're together. As Fantastic 4 proved, group movies are even harder to do right.

Seriously? Perfect? I think that's a bit of a fan-boy driven overhyping.

Oh well, I'll take your endorsement and give it a squizz.

Sober Thal:
So I have to see Thor before I see Captain America?

No not really. It offers some background, but you won't have trouble following the story if you haven't seen Thor at all.

for as long as i have been watching escape to the moves with bob, i can't think of a time when i havent agreed with him. Even if i enjoy the movie and he hasn't i often agree that the acting was shoddy or a bit eh. Like the green lantern i went with the mrs to see it, we nearly ended up play fighting in the cinema, i enjoyed it but found it oddly boring and inconsistent. Thor, i all out loved and as for xmen first class that was brilliant. For bob to come out now and say i know what i said about the other 2, but this... immense. Makes me put a post it on my screen telling me that bar a funeral of a close relative or someone im going to this with, i need to see this immediately :) cant wait.

Sober Thal:
So I have to see Thor before I see Captain America?

I wouldn't say that, really the only explanation in Thor about there being magic stuff is that it's there because Thor yo.

Just watch Cap knowing that magic exists as a part of the universe and it will all make sense.

On another note, i'd recommend watching Thor anyway, it's not a masterpiece but it does what it needs to do as a film and is pretty much essential of you plan on nerding all over the floor when the Avengers comes out next year.

Zing:
Seriously? Perfect? I think that's a bit of a fan-boy driven overhyping.

Oh well, I'll take your endorsement and give it a squizz.

I don't think he's saying it's the perfect movie, it definitely won't be winning any Oscars, but it's the perfect Captain America movie. And i don't think Bob's capable of over hyping, he was reluctant in hype for Green Lantern (if you could call the two big picture episodes dedicated to it reluctant) and when it turned out to be bad, he damned it for all its imperfections. If he says this is good I'd be happy to trust his judgement.

Wow.. way to fanboy out Bob.

Dont get me wrong its not a bad movie. Its just not what this degree of hype makes it out to be.

The biggest problem with the film is its bland. It is as shallow as a kiddie pool. Now I will grant you the MEs will prolly eat this up because as Bob puts it, the film lacks Irony... But it is also what makes the film a 2 hour ego fest of someone who wasnt really that interesting to begin with.

But hey.. One thing I will say is.. Its better than any superman film from recent memory. (and in my personal estimation any ever made)

Thank god, I was going to be seriously disappointed of Transformers 3 ended up being the best movie I saw this summer.

This is frustrating! Why do you have to take time aside all the goddamned time to note how a woman is "hot" on screen, when that's A) sexist (note how you treat men in reviews, now look again at how you comment on women), B) pointless (if for some reason the "eye candy factor" is going to play a part in my decision to watch the movie, there are posters and trailers that make such a thing easy to discern), and C) insulting (women have been in movies for how long? Shocker! A woman looks good in a big-budget professional visual arts performance! This isn't surprising to anyone anymore, and saying we ought to be surprised is expecting very, very low things of your readers/viewers). I'm not saying bodily aspects aren't significant in movies, but can you at least pretend to keep it relevant to the quality of the movie, rather than as a flow-breaking "It's like softcore porn in the middle of my movie!" aside?

Can i have my Deadpool movie please?

Hmm i was planning on skipping this one. My interest in Captain America as a character is pretty much nil, but seeing people agree with Bob here, i guess I'll give it a go.

Hm, this review seems to be a bit too fan-biased.

Think I'll check out some other reviews before I spend 20+ dollars on this baby.

Hm. IGN said that it was a "meh" film. Bit then again, it is IGN.

Zeitgeist1983:
Sounds interesting... But will anyone care outside America?

Seeing as a lot of comments are "oh man I wish it wasn't out in a week!" I see there is some interest.

Man for such a good movie theres a fair bit of negativity flowing out of this thread. Are we really all so jaded?

This is a good movie. Aside from loving comic books and the character itself, it was like watching Indiana Jones for the first time. It had just enough pulp to give it a minor edge without being overbearing to the point of camp. The characters feel real, even if they come out to 'super good' vs 'super bad'. Because yes, like Bob these characters can exist and be both entertaining and engaging, without being angsty, cynical, or demented. Theres a heart there.
Is it groundbreaking? Not really other than the interconnectedness that marvel is doing (and considering how much it bothers me that comic movies tend to refuse to do this. I really appreciate it). Basically, much like Harry Potter, this movie is for the fans, but it still has something for everyone. If you don't want to watch multiple movies just to get 'the big picture' thats fine. This movie thrives on its own. But Marvel is doing something Different. They're giving you individual stories that can be taken on their own or as a whole, to something simply NOT done in hollywood. and it is glorious for those of us who enjoy watching it all come together.

Coming from a patriotic smaller country part of a very unpatriotic larger country that's traditionally felt some jealousy and resentment towards America, is this good patriotism going to annoy me? Because I'm sure that everyone who made the film knew that the hard part of the marketing gig and the film in general to a wider audience, was in the title.

I think I'm going to see this on your recommendation, but is it going to work for me?

EDIT: Also the way Batman has been portrayed in recent movies is basically as a straight nice guy when you look at it. Even nicer even because he's made out to be the guy, who will not only be willing to give up everything he has for other people, he's willing to give up everything he has for people who he knows are scumbags, including his love and his _reputation_. Heck even though he knows people are scumbags he's still willing to believe every day that at their heart they are nice people. He wouldn't even let the villain suffer his own karmic revenge

but that was just an aside

BlackSaint09:
Can i have my Deadpool movie please?

Deadpool would probably too friggin awesome and thus overshadow everything Marvel has put on the big screen over the past ten years. Seriously, the Deadpool movie needs to be a satire of superhero movies' worst habits and pretenses

Wow, just wow.

The protagonist looks like a lame cliché Japanese protagonist from anime and I'm sick of it. However this is the oposite of what I thought of Captain America, and the absence of Irony and cynicism makes me happy.

So untill now I had 100% I wouldn't go see it, now it's 50/50.
Damn you Bob, you created doubt in my mind!

Glass Joe the Champ:
Hm, this review seems to be a bit too fan-biased.

Not to mention that he's American, and at least I am not. Not sure how the patriotism will rub off on me. Still, I'm going to see it (if it plays in the theatres nearby) mainly for the action and Red Skull. I hope the patriotism won't be too much.

Kakita:
I have to ask why some are concerned about you being expected to have seen a previous movie.

They are effectively a series. We've know this since Iron Man 1, we've known this with the stinger of each film and the carry over characters. We've know this if we've read any news on the movies at all.

This isn't a case of reading a comic and having a tie-in story in another comic you weren't told about.

This is akin to going to see Deathly Hallows 2 and being confused that you needed to see Half Blood Prince or any of the other films to make full sense of it.

Wanted to post to say basically what you just did.

And to the posters who are vehemently against this idea and feel the need to gripe about it, do you simply hate all series of films? is Return of the Jedi a terrible movie because you need to see Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back to fully understand it? It feels like some people just don't like the direction marvel is taking with their films and feel the need to try and find flaws, however minute.

Honestly people if that's how you feel just don't go see the movies, the strongest message you can send would be your money not reaching their pockets. Oh and stop griping about it, you don't like series of films being made, amazing, some of us do and its quite unlikely you will change anyone's opinions.

He never really addressed this in the review but I'm hoping someone else can anwser me.

Since I am not american and I don't really know the character of captain america will that hurt my experiance watching this movie?

I'm gonna go ahead and presume that all that praise for "portraying Captain america as a no-irony, perfect, american good guy"....is a very distinctly American viewpoint. I just wanna know if Non-americans will hate it (or at-least find it overratedly cheesy/ corny/ cliched/ dumb) as much as I think they will.....

But atleast it's a good film so I'll have fun whilst finding out.

Comes out the 12th of August over here, I'm actually kind of excited for it. Maybe I should wait to see it until Thor comes out on DVD, since I missed it while it was in the theaters.

Also, Chris Evans? Is he really that good? O.o

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