The 50 Most Boring Opinions In Geek Culture - Part I

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NinjaDeathSlap:
This article deserves all the slow claps. My only question is what 25 arguments could you possibly have up your sleeve that are more tired and less interesting than the ones listed here. I suppose I could think of a handful... 'George Lucas needs to leave Star Wars alone'; and 'The plot of 2012 is bullshit', but beyond that I'm struggling.

From my own experience in bickering about comics;

"Superman is boring because he's too powerful"
"Aquaman is lame because he can only talk to fish"
"Batman is having sex with Robin!"

I don't know... what qualifies as "boring"?

Because some of these arguments I still LOVE hearing people talk about, and there's usually always some new spin on old arguments that shows up from time to time that shakes up the old tried and true opinions.

Rogue 09:

PunkRex:
I think most fans of FF9 would agree 41 is some serious baloni.

Im also aware that (on this site especially) saying FF9 is the bestestest FF is kinda over done... even if its true.

Wow... having played FF VII, VIII, and IX I had forgotten how completely terrible segments of IX were. The Queen was a terrible pseudo-villain and I could never get over the fact that the main character had an annoying tail.

I'm sure VII doesn't hold up too well either to scrutiny, but the story elements put into play were amazing. I'm not sure if it's the first game that had you wield a main character as they go through a semi-psychotic episode / identity crisis, but I recall it being interesting and gratifying.

Definatly, FF9 isn't perfect, its just got a hell of alot more variety then the other FF's I played. I was just spouting my love for the cutscenes, which portrayed alot of character with actions such as facial expressions instead of constant dialouge. I remember enjoying 7, even if the doom and gloom got SERIOUSLY grating at times, maybe because it made characters like Cid, Reno and Rude all the more likable.

erttheking:
I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

Bob logic: "I'm sick of hearing how horrible The Holocaust was. We should stop talking about."

The most annoying "geek" opinion of all:
Criticizing other geek's negative opinions, negatively.

Bhaalspawn:

Frank_Sinatra_:

Bhaalspawn:
The point though is that he doesn't have to. That's just a pathetic attempt to smack down criticism. Nobody has to even bother playing Mass Effect to know that the screaming fits were completely unwarranted, and much of the Mass Effect fanbase needed to grow the hell up.

However it is one thing to smack down criticism after having taken time to learn about the grievances and the like. (See here on how to properly deal with these situations, and here how not to.)

Jim handled it with respect and objectivity. Bob however handled it childishly and used it as a grab for attention.

I think more the irritation with the addition of this grievance to this "Boring Opinons" is Bob dragging this worthless corpse out again without having given it a good, and intellectually honest look for himself just so he can have some more attention. As I stated above.
Best to just ignore it and move on.

(Yes I know I'm giving him attention by proxy since I'm leaving a comment, but I felt I needed to speak out.)

The thing is though, a fanbase does not get to set the terms for which another person calls them out. Bob was calling out a bunch self-entitled dipshits on their poor behavior. Of course he was childish about it, it was an entirely childish protest, and Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

Here's something I'm sick of hearing constantly.

"PC's are better than consoles, and you're bad for playing on a console!"

Ugh, I am so sick of this. Okay, we get it! PC's are technologically better than consoles, especially now that the consoles are 6-7 year old tech. However, we're tried of hearing about it. We're tired of being demonized, verbally abused, verbally assaulted, and bullied because we mostly play on a console.

You know there are reasons why we play games primarily on consoles, and it's not the reasons you PC elitists think.
It's not because we're dumb or ignorant.
It's not out of some misguided since of fanaticism.
It most certainly not because we secretly hate video games and are deliberately trying to hold them back.
(Yes. I have been accused, directly and indirectly, of intentionally holding back video games for playing on a console.)

We do it because it's the best option for us economically. The initial cost of buying a "decent" gaming PC is too much for a lot of people. I'm also sick of having to remind people that "only $600" is a lot of money, especially during an economic recession.

So, I guess I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for not being blessed with wealthy parents, and/or a cushy job.
I'm sorry for actually having to watch my expenses.
I'm sorry that when I'm able to afford a single game it's a big deal for me.
I'm sorry I'm not willing to abandon a hobby I greatly enjoy that let's me forget my woes, and maintain my sanity.

No, correction. I'm not sorry for not willing to abandon a hobby I greatly enjoy. If you still think I should then I hope karma kicks your ass making you're fancy gaming PC permanently go blue-screen-of-death on you.

I'm also sorry for commenting on an overdone "boring" topic.

I suppose I am a pretty interesting nerd, because the only one I have even come close to using is:

#39 M. Night Shayamalan Is egotictical and saboutages his own films.

I actually have called him 'self-indulgent' before, but I have never accused him of ruining his own films.

As far as #41, I have always defended video-game cutscenes. The longest cutscene in Silent Hill 2 was about 5-6 minutes long, and I loved every minute of it. The problem lies with video game writers having -on average- the same level of narrative skill as an inbred aardvark.

Grunt_Man11:
Here's something I'm sick of hearing constantly.

"PC's are better than consoles, and you're bad for playing on a console!"

Ugh, I am so sick of this. Okay, we get it! PC's are technologically better than consoles, especially now that the consoles are 6-7 year old tech. However, we're tried of hearing about it. We're tired of being demonized, verbally abused, verbally assaulted, and bullied because we mostly play on a console.

And I'm pretty sure us PC players, or even those who use both PCs and consoles (as I do), have been getting such hate and trolling for years as you suggest the console players are receiving now. When new consoles come out the cycle will continue and PCs will again be questioned, but for now let PCs have their day, huh? What with Steam and their box I doubt it will last forever.

Or, better yet, let's us all be better gamers and appreciated any gaming console, even mobile devices, for what they are: a way to play games.

Lionsfan:

Bhaalspawn:

Frank_Sinatra_:

However it is one thing to smack down criticism after having taken time to learn about the grievances and the like. (See here on how to properly deal with these situations, and here how not to.)

Jim handled it with respect and objectivity. Bob however handled it childishly and used it as a grab for attention.

I think more the irritation with the addition of this grievance to this "Boring Opinons" is Bob dragging this worthless corpse out again without having given it a good, and intellectually honest look for himself just so he can have some more attention. As I stated above.
Best to just ignore it and move on.

(Yes I know I'm giving him attention by proxy since I'm leaving a comment, but I felt I needed to speak out.)

The thing is though, a fanbase does not get to set the terms for which another person calls them out. Bob was calling out a bunch self-entitled dipshits on their poor behavior. Of course he was childish about it, it was an entirely childish protest, and Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

Here's a few examples.

Activision keeps making the same Call of Duty game every year. Why? Because ever rehashed Call of Duty game breaks revenue records set by the film industry.

EA Keeps making sports games. Why? Because they keep selling metric fucktons with every release.

George Lucas keeps superimposing Hayden Christensen into more and more Star Wars re-releases. Why? Because pissing off original trilogy fans is fun.

There are hundreds of other examples. But you cannot fault an industry for taking an easy route for money when it's the consumers who told them to go there.

Game franchises refuse to innovate because by and large the fans don't want them to. If Call of Duty were to massively change up the formula, it's biggest fans would be rightfully pissed off. If MADDEN were to include a team made of Yoshies, it's fans would be seriously pissed off. If Half Life decided to give Gordon Freeman a voice, it's fans would be rightfully pissed off.

And when Mass Effect ended in a way that said "How should we know how the game ended. It's not our story, it's yours. You tell me." the fans were rightfully pissed off. Now, going entirely apeshit and trying to assert nonexistent rights of ownership was going too far, and the whining got so bad nobody with any sense wanted to hear about it anymore. That's why it's on the list Bob made.

Well once again movie bob is being pretentious and judgemental.
This really just sounds like a cheap excuse to dismiss opinions he doesnt like to hear as being boring.

Anyone who still thinks DBZ hasn't been surpassed should play Asura's Wrath. Yeah its a game, but its so quick time event and cut scene heavy, even structured like an episodic series, it may as well be considered more an anime than a game.

But yeah all the other things Bob mentioned pretty much spot on, every opinion nerds have about anything gets drilled in tot he ground to the point of insanity I find. So when I lose interest in the topic I try to avoid it as best I can. Mass Effect 3 for example, I never want to hear or talk about that game again.

Well, that was the whiniest thing I've read in a long time.

Number 38 made me chortle. Yes, I just used that word.

NinjaDeathSlap:
This article deserves all the slow claps. My only question is what 25 arguments could you possibly have up your sleeve that are more tired and less interesting than the ones listed here. I suppose I could think of a handful... 'George Lucas needs to leave Star Wars alone'; and 'The plot of 2012 is bullshit', but beyond that I'm struggling.

He already came up with a fair few I never heard of before. I mean, I generally didn't pay overly much attention to Oscar awards when I was three years old.

The Hobbit:
Possibly, but, we all recognize that there isn't an exact mathematical equation for adaptation, yes? I mean, World War II can be handily summarized in six words: "The Allies Won. The Axis Lost." And yet most movies made on the subject tend to run rather long.

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read in a long, long, long time.

Herp derp, you can sumarise 6 years worth of events into one information lacking line (or basically the outcome), therefore you can turn one short book into 3 movies.

whydidntiseethisbeforeitssoobviousnow!

Bhaalspawn:

Lionsfan:

Bhaalspawn:

The thing is though, a fanbase does not get to set the terms for which another person calls them out. Bob was calling out a bunch self-entitled dipshits on their poor behavior. Of course he was childish about it, it was an entirely childish protest, and Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

Here's a few examples.

Activision keeps making the same Call of Duty game every year. Why? Because ever rehashed Call of Duty game breaks revenue records set by the film industry.

EA Keeps making sports games. Why? Because they keep selling metric fucktons with every release.

George Lucas keeps superimposing Hayden Christensen into more and more Star Wars re-releases. Why? Because pissing off original trilogy fans is fun.

There are hundreds of other examples. But you cannot fault an industry for taking an easy route for money when it's the consumers who told them to go there.

Game franchises refuse to innovate because by and large the fans don't want them to. If Call of Duty were to massively change up the formula, it's biggest fans would be rightfully pissed off. If MADDEN were to include a team made of Yoshies, it's fans would be seriously pissed off. If Half Life decided to give Gordon Freeman a voice, it's fans would be rightfully pissed off.

And when Mass Effect ended in a way that said "How should we know how the game ended. It's not our story, it's yours. You tell me." the fans were rightfully pissed off. Now, going entirely apeshit and trying to assert nonexistent rights of ownership was going too far, and the whining got so bad nobody with any sense wanted to hear about it anymore. That's why it's on the list Bob made.

You know, none of those examples really proved your point. In fact, you just contradicted yourself.

I mean when you say this:

Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

But then proceed to list a bunch of examples of creative stagnation or companies refusing to innovate, it's hard to take you seriously.

What exactly are you trying to say here? Originally I thought you were making a point about gamers acting childish is one of the problems facing the industry today, but now it looks like you're blaming casual gamers for any problems the gaming industry is having

Lionsfan:

Bhaalspawn:

Lionsfan:

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

Here's a few examples.

Activision keeps making the same Call of Duty game every year. Why? Because ever rehashed Call of Duty game breaks revenue records set by the film industry.

EA Keeps making sports games. Why? Because they keep selling metric fucktons with every release.

George Lucas keeps superimposing Hayden Christensen into more and more Star Wars re-releases. Why? Because pissing off original trilogy fans is fun.

There are hundreds of other examples. But you cannot fault an industry for taking an easy route for money when it's the consumers who told them to go there.

Game franchises refuse to innovate because by and large the fans don't want them to. If Call of Duty were to massively change up the formula, it's biggest fans would be rightfully pissed off. If MADDEN were to include a team made of Yoshies, it's fans would be seriously pissed off. If Half Life decided to give Gordon Freeman a voice, it's fans would be rightfully pissed off.

And when Mass Effect ended in a way that said "How should we know how the game ended. It's not our story, it's yours. You tell me." the fans were rightfully pissed off. Now, going entirely apeshit and trying to assert nonexistent rights of ownership was going too far, and the whining got so bad nobody with any sense wanted to hear about it anymore. That's why it's on the list Bob made.

You know, none of those examples really proved your point. In fact, you just contradicted yourself.

I mean when you say this:

Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

But then proceed to list a bunch of examples of creative stagnation or companies refusing to innovate, it's hard to take you seriously.

What exactly are you trying to say here? Originally I thought you were making a point about gamers acting childish is one of the problems facing the industry today, but now it looks like you're blaming casual gamers for any problems the gaming industry is having

I'm not blaming anybody. I'm aware that creative stagnation is present in the industry, however I'm not particularly bothered by it. But I see people complaining about why every shooter is Call of Duty, why every MMO is WoW. Why endless sequels of sports and COD games keep coming out every year.

Because if 5 million people are going to demand that Activision make a Modern Warfare 4 which they will buy at full $60 sticker, Activision would be very stupid not to make it for them.

Endless Call of Duty or MADDEN games never bothered me, but they bother quite a few thousand dozen people here on the good'ol web. But the games industry exists for one reason: to make money. Yes it exists to make art too, but that is a secondary purpose. So if a developer or publisher can be garunteed a record breaking revenue with Modern Warfare with another number stamped on it, it makes no sense to get pissy at them for it.

Game companies make what sells, and to make games that are almost sure to bomb would be very wasteful of them. Look at EA. They had to close 4 studios and merge several more before they finally stopped approving everything that came under their nose.

Does that suck? Kind of. For all the things I love about modern games, I don't that BioWare will likely never make a proper Baldur's Gate 3, or Road Rash may never see a Windows 8/Origin release. But it's the Number 1 rule of business: Supply and Demand.

I don't blame anyone for this. People are going to buy the games they like to play, and the typical targets of gamer hatred are the games a LOT of people like to play. This doesn't stop games I like from getting made, nor will it stop games you or anyone else likes from getting made.

They just get made less frequently. And isn't the frequency of games like Call of Duty the very REASON people are tired of them? Wouldn't your favorite kind of game become stale if it was released every two years? In fact, it's popularity was what led me to try Call of Duty, Team Fortress, and League of Legends. And while Call of Duty was the only game I actually enjoyed playing, I never would have bothered if they weren't constantly reminding me of their existence.

For all my bitterness toward it, I accept the fact that Valve and Steam likely aren't going anywhere and it's because they are so popular. Perhaps others ought to do the same.

Bet there a jab at Halo in the next list.

This is a very pointless article, to be honest.

Azkar Almsivi:
The most annoying "geek" opinion of all:
Criticizing other geek's negative opinions, negatively.

It's kind of scary how much this actually happens on this site.

Sylveria:

erttheking:
I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

Bob logic: "I'm sick of hearing how horrible The Holocaust was. We should stop talking about."

Because the Holocaust is EXACTLY like Bat-Nipples.

I think we've reached critical stupidity mass now.

This belongs high in a "Most boring articles ever" top 50.

MovieBob:
32. Starship Troopers was better than the book.

I can only assume the people that make this argument have either, never read the book, are illiterate... or don't know what the hell they are talking about.

If I had to put my top few Most Boring Opinions, I'd have to go with...

- "Mass Effect 3's ending ruined everything." (Biggest blowup on my corner of the Internets in ages, and I still want to murder it with a rusty axe. Fanboys, stfu and go on with your lives.)
- "The Star Wars Prequels were horrible." (Frankly, I've never liked *any* of the Star Wars movies, so all of this complaining is moot to me. But if I had to vote for one set or the other, given that I don't care a whit about either, I'd go with the prequels *because at least they're pretty in modern era technology times.* The old ones have not aged well. Yes, this is basically all that I can find to say about them, other than how Genre Defining they were.)
- Speaking of that... "Tolkien/Star Wars/other cornerstone was the Best Thing Ever, and if you don't think so, you have no standards." (I hate it when fans get "set the genre" mixed up with "amazingly good and wonderful and fun." For example, I didn't like Star Wars. I didn't like anything Tolkien ever wrote. Yes, they were wonderful cornerstones that defined genres. No, that doesn't mean they're *fun.* I can respect a work without liking it one bit. It's like how Moby Dick is exceedingly boring except for the fifth or so that matters to the main plot, but it did in fact make a big mark on literature. Now, sure, people do enjoy these works, but really, we're not *required* to think they're super fun in order to be real nerds or whatever.)
- "Artists have a contract with fans." (No they don't. You pay for what you get. You choose where to spend your money. If an artist/author/whatever does something you don't like, the only obligation here is that you either suck it up or quit handing them your money. They have no requirement to listen to you. Nor does it make them "nicer" to pander to you.)

I wasn't going to chime in on these because the article is older and yeah and stuff... but:
28: Fast zombies aren't "real" zombies. Really? People say that? *hysterical laughter*
I mean I should leave it at that, but does this people have no one to tell them that you know... Zombies are fictional?

wow,
I think you forget a pretty vital one.
#0.23:"This article is stupid".

Really, so we are actually landing on post-post-post-modernism? to the extent that now something accepted as truth must not be mentioned because it might be unoriginal? Or so often repeated that it is wrong by default? I don't even think there is a point here, other than a superbly pretentious "DUH" drive.

What if someone does think that the Nipple bat suit and the Joel Schumacher's horrid direction DID ruin the modern approach of batman movies?

So, an oppinion is not boring when it is your own? or is it that an oppinion is only "entertaining" when no-one has heard it before, even if it's stupid?

"people have already mentioned what you are saying, it is dumb and you are boring me, shush"

Really.. this is beyond self gratifying masturbational pedantry.

Draconalis:

MovieBob:
32. Starship Troopers was better than the book.

I can only assume the people that make this argument have either, never read the book, are illiterate... or don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Have read the book, loved it for being an extremely fleshed out portrayal of military life from a socialist perspective, as well as being the forerunner for every single power armored space marine in existence. I also happen to love the movie for not giving a shit about any of that and giving the book a gigantic, satire ridden middle finger.

It is possibly the worst adaptation of any work next to an Uwe Boll production, but it is also one of the best ironic comedy/satire/action films ever produced, in true Verhoeven style. I love it for sending up jingoistic military propaganda films and pulling the wool over millions of people's eyes.

You can say that people who enjoy the film and not read the book are illiterate, but I can say that the people who watch the movie without realizing that they are being played are just as ignorant.

Either way, both are excellent in their own ways, but quality will be based on your preference.

Soviet Heavy:
Snip

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the movie, I loved how campy it was. I loved how it was trying its best to villianize everything the book portrayed... and failed at it, I might add.

But the claim that an argument that is so overused it's boring... and that argument is that the movie is better than the book?

I don't buy it... especially since I've never heard anyone make any arguments about this either way.

Draconalis:

Soviet Heavy:
Snip

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the movie, I loved how campy it was. I loved how it was trying its best to villianize everything the book portrayed... and failed at it, I might add.

But the claim that an argument that is so overused it's boring... and that argument is that the movie is better than the book?

I don't buy it... especially since I've never heard anyone make any arguments about this either way.

Yeah, I wouldn't go as far as Bob did to declare the movie better than the book... since it really isn't trying to be better than the book. It comes down to preference, and occasionally you find people like us who can enjoy both on their own merits.

Thank you for addressing Mass Effect 3! Maybe in 2013, people will let that go. Also, I get the DBZ one a lot. I am one of those people that was introduced to MUCH BETTER anime through the starter, DBZ. I know DBZ isn't the Orson Wells of anime, but it got me into it. You don't need to remind me it isn't Oscar worthy.

For point number 40 I have to disagree...

People don't think that Link/Mario should never speak because they generally never do... It's because every time they get given voices, they are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

So excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess for thinking that they should remain silent.

Actually I think the Pulp Fiction Vs Forrest Gump one should be changed to "Quentin Tarantino's latest film [insert name of film since Jackie Brown] isn't as good as Pulp Fiction"

because in all seriousness anyone that keeps measuring someones latest work to a previous one everyone is already aware of how good it is absolute bullshit. And I feel sorry for the creator, your trying to show off your new work and everyone's still focusing on something you worked on almost now 21 years ago. Look Pulp Fiction will always be his film that trumps all others, but Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill and Django Unchained come close in terms of awesomeness.

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