Dead Space 3 Review

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so now i know that this game does not have a very engaging story and its more fun to play co-op.
so since a good story is very important to me and also since i will be playing this game all by myself, is this game still recommended for me ? or does it bring it down since i wont be playing co-op ?

erttheking:
I don't see why I have to give a specific reason every time when I say "I don't like supporting a company."

The original comment I replied to was (seemingly) filled to the brim with navel-gazing and pretension, and listing actual reasons with that would have made it much more bearable.

deathbydeath:

erttheking:
I don't see why I have to give a specific reason every time when I say "I don't like supporting a company."

The original comment I replied to was (seemingly) filled to the brim with navel-gazing and pretension, and listing actual reasons with that would have made it much more bearable.

Do you mind calming down a little? Adressing people in a thread in a polite and reasonable manner makes it a nicer and friendlier place for everyone. Including you.

WaitWHAT:
Do you mind calming down a little? Addressing people in a thread in a polite and reasonable manner makes it a nicer and friendlier place for everyone. Including you.

I don't remember being filled with rage when I wrote that comment, and I don't think I insulted anybody. I thought I was just describing things from my point of view, but please point out where I done fumbled. I'd prefer to not get mod warnings because of misunderstandings.

deathbydeath:

WaitWHAT:
Do you mind calming down a little? Addressing people in a thread in a polite and reasonable manner makes it a nicer and friendlier place for everyone. Including you.

I don't remember being filled with rage when I wrote that comment, and I don't think I insulted anybody. I thought I was just describing things from my point of view, but please point out where I done fumbled. I'd prefer to not get mod warnings because of misunderstandings.

Alright, little Jimmy. This is what we call "politeness" Politeness means not saying stuff like this:

deathbydeath:
I could actually feel the self-righteous pretentiousness emanating from my computer, congratulations.

deathbydeath:
You don't like the IPs they own? Did the CEO kill your family? All of these are equally valid under the details both of you provided, which is unhealthy.

deathbydeath:

Really? Interesting. I just used it as hyperbole in covering a spectrum of strawman arguments.

deathbydeath:

The original comment I replied to was (seemingly) filled to the brim with navel-gazing and pretension, and listing actual reasons with that would have made it much more bearable.

It means not being a totally asshat if someone says something you disagree with. It means politely saying something to the effect of "I disagree with your statement" and listing some reasons if it matters to you that much. It does not mean endlessly calling people pretentious and taking an overly agressive tone. It's only a random interent comment, for flip's sake!

mohit9206:
so now i know that this game does not have a very engaging story and its more fun to play co-op.
so since a good story is very important to me and also since i will be playing this game all by myself, is this game still recommended for me ? or does it bring it down since i wont be playing co-op ?

Where did you get that the story isn't engaging? I love the story of Dead Space. You will, however, miss out on parts of the story (Carver's parts, specifically) if you can't do the co-op missions, and I think that sucks. I enjoy the lore of Dead Space so much I want access to all of it - text logs, audio logs, stuff written on the wall in blood, everything. But you will still very much enjoy it if you play the entire thing solo. There are plenty of side missions to do by yourself, and they each add a great deal of flavor to the overall story.

Well, thanks for the extra information about the game. Now I'm 100% sure that I'm totally not buying it. I mean, it requires me to use Origin, it has microtransactions (I'm just deeply opposed to the idea of having microtransactions in a non-MMO game that you have to pay full price to even start playing), and now I find out that it forces you into playing co-op by depriving lone players of story-related content?

This is the first time I actually regret not owning a console. I'd just lend a friend's copy or buy it used then.

WaitWHAT:
Alright, little Jimmy. This is what we call "politeness" Politeness means not saying stuff like this:

deathbydeath:
I could actually feel the self-righteous pretentiousness emanating from my computer, congratulations.

deathbydeath:
Is it too mainstream? You don't like the IPs they own? Did the CEO kill your family? All of these are equally valid under the details both of you provided, which is unhealthy.

deathbydeath:

Really? Interesting. I just used it as hyperbole in covering a spectrum of strawman arguments.

deathbydeath:

The original comment I replied to was (seemingly) filled to the brim with navel-gazing and pretension, and listing actual reasons with that would have made it much more bearable.

It means not being a total asshat if someone says something you disagree with. It means politely saying something to the effect of "I disagree with your statement" and listing some reasons if it matters to you that much. It does not mean endlessly calling people pretentious and taking an overly agressive tone. It's only a random interent comment, for flip's sake!

1. My name isn't Jimmy. If you want to use someone's name, check their profile first.

2. So my posts aren't polite. Thanks for helping me avoid the mods. Any other astounding insights you have to share?

3. I'm a random internet comment too, you know.

4. So you call me out on impoliteness (which I'll concede on the first comment), yet call me an asshat when I had yet to insult a person in this conversation.

5. I said "pretentious" twice, and the second time was echoing the first. I can't count, but I'm fairly sure that isn't "endless".

deathbydeath:

erttheking:
I don't see why I have to give a specific reason every time when I say "I don't like supporting a company."

The original comment I replied to was (seemingly) filled to the brim with navel-gazing and pretension, and listing actual reasons with that would have made it much more bearable.

And was it REALLY necessary to lash out at him like that?

erttheking:
And was it REALLY necessary to lash out at him like that?

In retrospect, I should have reworded what I said.

deathbydeath:

erttheking:
And was it REALLY necessary to lash out at him like that?

In retrospect, I should have reworded what I said.

Well, I'm glad that we have an understanding

erttheking:
Well, I'm glad that we have an understanding

's a miracle, isn't it?

Definitely buying this second hand... Never supporting EA again if they keep their current business model.

From what I've heard so far it seems like the side missions are some of the best bits in the game... I don't know what to make about that.

What's with all of the "I refuse to support EA" stuff? I mean, I understand the point of view, but it really is illogical if you look at it.

Most of the money from games sold goes to the developer (Visceral), not the publisher (EA), though they do take a cut. The idea of not buying the game because you don't like what EA has done to is dumb because:

A) You're hurting the developer more than you're hurting the publisher by not buying it. EA has all the money in the world; it's the Dead Space IP that will suffer for not making enough profit, not EA.

B) Look at it from EA's perspective. They have this (from a sales perspective, when compared to other franchises) so-so IP known as Dead Space that they feel holds little sway with the "mainsteam" (as evidenced by their attempts to bring it out of the horror niche and into a more popular audience). If, even after the attempts they have taken to make the franchise more accessible the game still sells poorly, they will not see it as "Wow, it looks like gamers are really tired of our bullshit!" They will see it as "Well, looks like we were right." and cut the franchise.

Solution: Going out of your way to not buy the game as some form of protest is silly. Buy it (or don't) based on whether you want to play it. But if you do buy it, give EA hell for it. As Jim Sterling once said, EA doesn't care about people that don't buy their games. But if their paying customers raise hell, THAT is how they will be forced to respond.

Wow!
A Video accompanied by a Susan Arendt review!
Now that is rare indeed.

Thanks very much.

deathbydeath:

tmande2nd:
The day I buy an EA product will be a cold day in hell indeed.

Wow, the internet continues to amaze me. I could actually feel the self-righteous pretentiousness emanating from my computer, congratulations.

Do I smell a little reverse-pretention in the air here?

I personally applaud anyone who's willing to forgo a gaming experience they would otherwise have enjoyed to keep from encouraging EA. Just because EA's in the business of making money (pardon my redundancy) doesn't excuse them to do whatever the hell they want. However, everyone putting up with it and giving them money anyway does enable them to do whatever the hell they want. So, kudos to tmande2nd and anyone like him.

The way I read the final score of this review is 3/5. 1 star subtracted for microtransactions. In this context I consider it a sinister business practice that smears chunky crap on the face of the game. All they have to do is design the game with restricted access to the resources you need, so the impatient will pay for it. That is a manufactured need, that only exists because EA is seeing how much they can get away with. Don't encourage the corporate trolls, people! I don't care how nice their suits are.

This review and Rev3Games reivew have been very good.

While everyone is hating on machinima,IGN and GameSpot

it seems like the HATE/10 train is chugging along and everyone is apart of it. It seems like fans/viewers just wanna hate on EA,Day 1 DLC, Micros-transaction and Co-op and not getting a perfect score or a score close to perfect means the game sucks and no one should buy and bomb user Metacritic scores.

I was a little worried about this game, but I'm glad it doesn't depart too much from what I gather. If I go into this game like an Aliens sequel then I think I will have a blast.

You mentioned resources, is there a limit to how much stuff you can carry, or can you practically carry as many materials as you'd like?

Thank you Susan for the review, to see it get 4 stars relieves me a bit more. I'm going to purchase my pre-ordered Dead Space game.
After all, i've been a huge fan and passing this up .. was to much for me. I gave in, blame the Marker my own fanboy love for the game.

Wish me luck if it has another hardcore mode with only three saves allowed.

Fiz_The_Toaster:
I was a little worried about this game, but I'm glad it doesn't depart too much from what I gather. If I go into this game like an Aliens sequel then I think I will have a blast.

You mentioned resources, is there a limit to how much stuff you can carry, or can you practically carry as many materials as you'd like?

No limit to the resources you can carry, nope, but you are limited to the number of items (med kits, ammo clips, etc.) you can carry.

As for your Aliens reference, I totally felt like Vasquez the entire time. It really, really channels an Aliens vibe.

Susan Arendt:

Fiz_The_Toaster:
I was a little worried about this game, but I'm glad it doesn't depart too much from what I gather. If I go into this game like an Aliens sequel then I think I will have a blast.

You mentioned resources, is there a limit to how much stuff you can carry, or can you practically carry as many materials as you'd like?

No limit to the resources you can carry, nope, but you are limited to the number of items (med kits, ammo clips, etc.) you can carry.

As for your Aliens reference, I totally felt like Vasquez the entire time. It really, really channels an Aliens vibe.

Okay, that makes sense. I had a feeling the regular stuff like ammo would be, but I wasn't quite sure about the resources and how that would balance. I think I have a fairly good grasp on what they're trying to do now. I hope anyways.

Vasquez, you say?

Well damn, now I'm super excited. :D

braincore02:
Do I smell a little reverse-pretention in the air here?

I personally applaud anyone who's willing to forgo a gaming experience they would otherwise have enjoyed to keep from encouraging EA. Just because EA's in the business of making money (pardon my redundancy) doesn't excuse them to do whatever the hell they want. However, everyone putting up with it and giving them money anyway does enable them to do whatever the hell they want. So, kudos to tmande2nd and anyone like him.

The way I read the final score of this review is 3/5. 1 star subtracted for microtransactions. In this context I consider it a sinister business practice that smears chunky crap on the face of the game. All they have to do is design the game with restricted access to the resources you need, so the impatient will pay for it. That is a manufactured need, that only exists because EA is seeing how much they can get away with. Don't encourage the corporate trolls, people! I don't care how nice their suits are.

I already said I should've reworded that comment, so moving on.

Unless I'm mistaken, and upon buying the game Visceral forces you to purchase DLC, then don't buy the damn DLC if you don't like the damn DLC. If you think you would like the game, then buy the game. Bam, problem solved! No need to whine or rant, just support what you want with your wallet.

Fiz_The_Toaster:

Susan Arendt:

Fiz_The_Toaster:
I was a little worried about this game, but I'm glad it doesn't depart too much from what I gather. If I go into this game like an Aliens sequel then I think I will have a blast.

You mentioned resources, is there a limit to how much stuff you can carry, or can you practically carry as many materials as you'd like?

No limit to the resources you can carry, nope, but you are limited to the number of items (med kits, ammo clips, etc.) you can carry.

As for your Aliens reference, I totally felt like Vasquez the entire time. It really, really channels an Aliens vibe.

Okay, that makes sense. I had a feeling the regular stuff like ammo would be, but I wasn't quite sure about the resources and how that would balance. I think I have a fairly good grasp on what they're trying to do now. I hope anyways.

Vasquez, you say?

Well damn, now I'm super excited. :D

Well, it's not that Isaac ever gets a Vasquez-style gun (though some come damn close), I'm just more likely to picture her than Hicks when I play. :)

deathbydeath:

braincore02:
Do I smell a little reverse-pretention in the air here?

I personally applaud anyone who's willing to forgo a gaming experience they would otherwise have enjoyed to keep from encouraging EA. Just because EA's in the business of making money (pardon my redundancy) doesn't excuse them to do whatever the hell they want. However, everyone putting up with it and giving them money anyway does enable them to do whatever the hell they want. So, kudos to tmande2nd and anyone like him.

The way I read the final score of this review is 3/5. 1 star subtracted for microtransactions. In this context I consider it a sinister business practice that smears chunky crap on the face of the game. All they have to do is design the game with restricted access to the resources you need, so the impatient will pay for it. That is a manufactured need, that only exists because EA is seeing how much they can get away with. Don't encourage the corporate trolls, people! I don't care how nice their suits are.

I already said I should've reworded that comment, so moving on.

Unless I'm mistaken, and upon buying the game Visceral forces you to purchase DLC, then don't buy the damn DLC if you don't like the damn DLC. If you think you would like the game, then buy the game. Bam, problem solved! No need to whine or rant, just support what you want with your wallet.

Hey guys!

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Thank you so much :)

Sounds like a fun game if you've never played the first and have Resident Evil 4-6 expectations for 'horror'?

Doopliss64:
What's with all of the "I refuse to support EA" stuff? I mean, I understand the point of view, but it really is illogical if you look at it.

Most of the money from games sold goes to the developer (Visceral), not the publisher (EA), though they do take a cut. The idea of not buying the game because you don't like what EA has done to is dumb because:

A) You're hurting the developer more than you're hurting the publisher by not buying it. EA has all the money in the world; it's the Dead Space IP that will suffer for not making enough profit, not EA.

B) Look at it from EA's perspective. They have this (from a sales perspective, when compared to other franchises) so-so IP known as Dead Space that they feel holds little sway with the "mainsteam" (as evidenced by their attempts to bring it out of the horror niche and into a more popular audience). If, even after the attempts they have taken to make the franchise more accessible the game still sells poorly, they will not see it as "Wow, it looks like gamers are really tired of our bullshit!" They will see it as "Well, looks like we were right." and cut the franchise.

Solution: Going out of your way to not buy the game as some form of protest is silly. Buy it (or don't) based on whether you want to play it. But if you do buy it, give EA hell for it. As Jim Sterling once said, EA doesn't care about people that don't buy their games. But if their paying customers raise hell, THAT is how they will be forced to respond.

In the case of Dead Space, Visceral is EA. Visceral is a company that was created and is wholly owned by Electronic Arts. Here is the first sentence from Visceral's wikipedia page: "Visceral Games (formerly EA Redwood Shores[1]) is a video game development studio internally owned by Electronic Arts."

As for your "solution", it is completely and utterly stupid. All EA cares about is how much money they make. EA is a corporation through and through and will do what they want to make money even if it comes at the expense of their consumers. If you buy an EA game and then start bitching and raising hell EA isn't going to care, they already have your money, you already gave them your support. In this industry the consumers' power comes from voting with their wallets. If people don't like something that a publisher or developer is doing then not giving them money is how they show their view of the developer or publisher's actions.

Caramel Frappe:
Thank you Susan for the review, to see it get 4 stars relieves me a bit more. I'm going to purchase my pre-ordered Dead Space game.
After all, i've been a huge fan and passing this up .. was to much for me. I gave in, blame the Marker my own fanboy love for the game.

Wish me luck if it has another hardcore mode with only three saves allowed.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/dead-space-3-to-have-one-life-only-hardcore-mode-039disturbing039-dlc_816281.html

Hahaha 3 saves is generous.

Susan Arendt:

Fiz_The_Toaster:

Susan Arendt:

No limit to the resources you can carry, nope, but you are limited to the number of items (med kits, ammo clips, etc.) you can carry.

As for your Aliens reference, I totally felt like Vasquez the entire time. It really, really channels an Aliens vibe.

Okay, that makes sense. I had a feeling the regular stuff like ammo would be, but I wasn't quite sure about the resources and how that would balance. I think I have a fairly good grasp on what they're trying to do now. I hope anyways.

Vasquez, you say?

Well damn, now I'm super excited. :D

Well, it's not that Isaac ever gets a Vasquez-style gun (though some come damn close), I'm just more likely to picture her than Hicks when I play. :)

Well, that's a total bummer. Although, I'm fairly sure there will probably be some ridiculously awesome guns that you can create.

Still, I'd probably go with Vasquez over Hicks, but if I do co-op I can pretend that my buddy is Hicks.

squid5580:

Caramel Frappe:
Thank you Susan for the review, to see it get 4 stars relieves me a bit more. I'm going to purchase my pre-ordered Dead Space game.
After all, i've been a huge fan and passing this up .. was to much for me. I gave in, blame the Marker my own fanboy love for the game.

Wish me luck if it has another hardcore mode with only three saves allowed.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/dead-space-3-to-have-one-life-only-hardcore-mode-039disturbing039-dlc_816281.html

Hahaha 3 saves is generous.

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I must admit, that's going to be a pain if I die, but I planned on obtaining all the achievements and unlocking everything for Dead Space 3 regardless so if I only got one save to live off of... then I shall. Wish me luck, it's going to be one VERY tense ride.

.. . Wait ... if you're playing co-op and your partner dies on hardcore mode....
WELL CRAP.

romanator0:

In the case of Dead Space, Visceral is EA. Visceral is a company that was created and is wholly owned by Electronic Arts. Here is the first sentence from Visceral's wikipedia page: "Visceral Games (formerly EA Redwood Shores[1]) is a video game development studio internally owned by Electronic Arts."

As for your "solution", it is completely and utterly stupid. All EA cares about is how much money they make. EA is a corporation through and through and will do what they want to make money even if it comes at the expense of their consumers. If you buy an EA game and then start bitching and raising hell EA isn't going to care, they already have your money, you already gave them your support. In this industry the consumers' power comes from voting with their wallets. If people don't like something that a publisher or developer is doing then not giving them money is how they show their view of the developer or publisher's actions.

Yes, Visceral Games is OWNED BY Electronic Arts. However, they are a seperable entity from the publisher EA. Publishers and developers are not the same thing.

Secondly, my point is that boycotting Dead Space will only send the message that gamers don't like Dead Space, not that gamers don't like EA's business practices. Let's say we lived in a perfect world where every gamer ever joined forces, took a stand against EA, and didn't buy Dead Space 3. If you were EA, looking at your yearly sales bar graph (or whatever it is they have) what do you see? You see all of your IPs doing very well, except for the one you were already on the fence about. That data doesn't say "Our business practices are immoral," it says "Dead Space is not a viable franchise," or more broadly, "Survival-horror doesn't sell," which would just reconfirm their suspicions that everything must be made more mainstream, and cause them to either go full-stop in making the next game Gears of War or just cancel the franchise entirely and tell Visceral to eat shit (as EA is wont to do).

knight steel:

erttheking:
Why do I get the nagging feeling that accusations of selling out will ensue?

let's get it out of the way ^_^

OP:ESCAPIST HOW MUCH DID EA PAY YOU TO SELL OUT, how can you support the micro transactions when they are everything bad about the industry,you say it's not a horror game but still give it a good review?

You have become an EA drone, who compromise your dignity for a quick buck you DISGUST ME T_T.

Love the sarcasm, beauty!!!

OK I expected this to be a lot worse... a lot of people did actually attack EA for microtransactions (including myself) and due to EA's actions recently, believe that microtransactions were going to be that far in your face that it would be the ONLY way to win (pay to win NOT A GOOD IDEA).

I'm glad to hear (after Jimquisition's IP talk on Dead Space) that they will not be (completely) ruining Dead Space

deathbydeath:
Unless I'm mistaken, and upon buying the game Visceral forces you to purchase DLC, then don't buy the damn DLC if you don't like the damn DLC. If you think you would like the game, then buy the game. Bam, problem solved! No need to whine or rant, just support what you want with your wallet.

Well I'm not whining or ranting, so I'm not sure why you mention it.

I am, however, pointing out that if people play into EA's game (I blame EA for these types of business practices more than any developer), then this will become business as usual, if it isn't already, which it arguably is. So now many EA titles are released with features intentionally removed so you can buy them later. If this were 6 or so years ago, they would've been included in the initial price.

So I voice my encouragement to everyone to avoid microtransacting. And again, kudos to anyone who just doesn't give EA money.

If Bioshock Infinite weren't right around the corner and I wasn't saving my money for it, I would probably buy this. I'll still pick it up eventually I'm sure, but I just don't know when.
I've always played Dead Space for the fun gameplay and genuiniely enjoyable sci-fi story rather than for the "horror"; but the overarching creepiness adds a nice touch. I'm glad that it hasn't gone 100% Bro and abandoned everything I enjoyed previously; as long as it's still Dead Space, I should be happy.

ForgottenPr0digy:
This review and Rev3Games reivew have been very good.

While everyone is hating on machinima,IGN and GameSpot

it seems like the HATE/10 train is chugging along and everyone is apart of it. It seems like fans/viewers just wanna hate on EA,Day 1 DLC, Micros-transaction and Co-op and not getting a perfect score or a score close to perfect means the game sucks and no one should buy and bomb user Metacritic scores.

Just my 2 cents on the IGN hate, the reviewer's complaints are somewhat "nonsensical".
Some of the biggest complaints the guy has are:
Backtracking: Very prominent in Dead Space 1 and somewhat in 2.
"Fetch Quests" or go find 3 of this or arrange X number of things: Once again a staple of the previous 2 games.
Far Fetched Story: Once again both stories from the previous two are a bit nonsensical.

It's one of those things where it's like you really can't hold a trope of a game against it if you didn't complain about it in the previous games, it's one of those expected parts of the games and to bash it so hard for that is kind of silly/wrong.

IKWerewolf:

knight steel:

erttheking:
Why do I get the nagging feeling that accusations of selling out will ensue?

let's get it out of the way ^_^

OP:ESCAPIST HOW MUCH DID EA PAY YOU TO SELL OUT, how can you support the micro transactions when they are everything bad about the industry,you say it's not a horror game but still give it a good review?

You have become an EA drone, who compromise your dignity for a quick buck you DISGUST ME T_T.

Love the sarcasm, beauty!!!

OK I expected this to be a lot worse... a lot of people did actually attack EA for microtransactions (including myself) and due to EA's actions recently, believe that microtransactions were going to be that far in your face that it would be the ONLY way to win (pay to win NOT A GOOD IDEA).

I'm glad to hear (after Jimquisition's IP talk on Dead Space) that they will not be (completely) ruining Dead Space

Sarcasm?...........Yes sarcasm.....I was defiantly using sarcasm......I was not serious.....at all.

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