Disgruntled Anonymous Faction Maliciously Attacks Anonymous

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CheckD3:
This "Ryan" character is a hearless person, doing the worst thing ever and hurting younger, smaller Anons by giving them...their identities! *dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!*

This is seriously fucked up in the realm of things, and just...well I feel that in the scheme of things that the attacks is really being launched by a guy who felt left out and wanted to make his way to the top by any means necessary, stepping on smaller Anons to to get there like a dictator or something, and if Anon is about helping speech, than what it attacking people for personal gain for?

Either way, seems like an interesting fight is developing, fuck Cable, who needs PSN when we have this

What he's been getting at, it seems, is that Anon claims to be this leaderless "for the people" rightsmongering organization... but really, it's an elite club addicted to the publicity and illusion of power. This Ryan, thinking himself a "true believer," is outing them because they're not staying true to the supposed vision of Anon.

(And before anyone says it, yes, there is a structure. Yes, there is a 'vision.' No, they are not an ever-changing conglomeration of concerned hacktivists. It's a group of punks with a power trip, and an ever-changing conglomeration of pranksters that follow them around to feel important.)

Neither Ryan nor Owen are being honest with themselves. This is entirely about feeling important, and you get used to that feeling over time. That means even Ryan will find himself starting do pull stunts (like, oh, this one) to make sure that others know how important he is, rather than for any "cause."

This is a spectacular story. I would not be surprised if someone writes a screenplay about this in a few years.

Anonymous, or, "Why Anarchy is Bullshit."

Dastardly:
(And before anyone says it, yes, there is a structure. Yes, there is a 'vision.' No, they are not an ever-changing conglomeration of concerned hacktivists. It's a group of punks with a power trip, and an ever-changing conglomeration of pranksters that follow them around to feel important.)

Neither Ryan nor Owen are being honest with themselves. This is entirely about feeling important, and you get used to that feeling over time. That means even Ryan will find himself starting do pull stunts (like, oh, this one) to make sure that others know how important he is, rather than for any "cause."

This this this. It's kind of frustrating that Anonymous continues to get so much reverent media attention, when they really only exist to groom their own vigilante image. They're a lot less badass than they boast.

Are we supposed to be feeling sorry for these people?

Actually...

Anonymous has no "factions" or "sides". It has no single political moral orientation. To say it is liberal would be as wrong as to say it is conservative.

Dastardly:

What he's been getting at, it seems, is that Anon claims to be this leaderless "for the people" rightsmongering organization... but really, it's an elite club addicted to the publicity and illusion of power. This Ryan, thinking himself a "true believer," is outing them because they're not staying true to the supposed vision of Anon.

The bit I found most interesting is how small that list was. Looks like Anon really isn't as big or as far-reaching as they think they are. I know that was only AnonOps and probably only the named users but it looks like AnonOps only really represented the opinion of about two hundred people.

Fancy that.

Anybody else think they take themselves a little too seriously?

Am I thye only one who thinks this is the coolest thing that has happened since the invention of a motherufcking force field?

Generic Gamer:

Dastardly:

What he's been getting at, it seems, is that Anon claims to be this leaderless "for the people" rightsmongering organization... but really, it's an elite club addicted to the publicity and illusion of power. This Ryan, thinking himself a "true believer," is outing them because they're not staying true to the supposed vision of Anon.

The bit I found most interesting is how small that list was. Looks like Anon really isn't as big or as far-reaching as they think they are. I know that was only AnonOps and probably only the named users but it looks like AnonOps only really represented the opinion of about two hundred people.

Fancy that.

Seems like a really good reason to remain "anonymous"--it allows you to make unassailable claims that you represent a gajillion people. What? A gajillion people aren't raising their hands in support--well, it's only because they want to protect themselves, of course!

It's like trying to win a dispute by claiming God is on your side. He's not going to pop his head in and say "yay" or "nay," but somehow people act as though being the first person to claim this automatically puts the burden of proof on the other person.

If you want to do bad things for fun, and you want to keep your identity hidden, that's one thing. But if you are claiming to represent the interests of "the people," you'd better have some accountability to those people. Even our "evil" politicians and CEOs and FBI... we can call them by name, we can vote them out or stop buying their products or take them to court if we feel wronged or misrepresented.

But Anonymous? If we feel misrepresented, all we can do is say, "Nuh uh, I don't support that." To which they can just say, "See? Everyone's too afraid to openly admit to supporting us. That's how badly we're needed."

Anonymous civil war?!

*grabs popcorn*

I see lawsuits on the horizon.

mechanixis:
Anonymous, or, "Why Anarchy is Bullshit."

Dastardly:
(And before anyone says it, yes, there is a structure. Yes, there is a 'vision.' No, they are not an ever-changing conglomeration of concerned hacktivists. It's a group of punks with a power trip, and an ever-changing conglomeration of pranksters that follow them around to feel important.)

Neither Ryan nor Owen are being honest with themselves. This is entirely about feeling important, and you get used to that feeling over time. That means even Ryan will find himself starting do pull stunts (like, oh, this one) to make sure that others know how important he is, rather than for any "cause."

This this this. It's kind of frustrating that Anonymous continues to get so much reverent media attention, when they really only exist to groom their own vigilante image. They're a lot less badass than they boast.

Indeed. Anarchy only works if you can enforce a particular idea of what "anarchy" looks like. And most of the time, working toward anarchy involves shutting out (or shutting down) the people who disagree with your view of things. In other words, it requires enforcing a personalized hierarchy on everyone else, demanding that they subscribe to it.

Sounds pretty rigidly structured to me. You know, for anarchy and all.

TOTALLY CALLED THIS. Anonymous attacks Anonymous because Anonymous is annoyed with Anonymous' actions... I CALLED IT.

SammiYin:
Are we supposed to be feeling sorry for these people?

Nope. You're supposed to be eating popcorn while pointing and laughing.

Warnolo:
Ey guys!
guys!
listen for a second!
guys!
guys!
what if...?
Just a second.
What if sony made the massive hack to himself so they could blame Anonymous and start a civil war inside?

OH GOD.

<the conspiracies begin spinning>

Veloxe:

Dragonsoulq:
Could someone pass the popcorn back here?

Hmmm we're probably going to need much more popcorn, I'll go grab some. This should be very entertaining if nothing else.

Preperations are underway.

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Looks like that Ryan guy is a douchebag and a dramaqueen! Exactly the kind of admin that a bunch of DDoS'ing apes with their own "ZUPER SEEKRET" website deserve. Also, I laughed at the IP address leak thing. Hell, if anyone was performing illegal activities using their home's static IP address, they should be in jail for sheer stupidity.

All great civilisations destroy themselves from within, the same appears to be true with Anonymous. If you can call them a civilisation.

Called it. Knew that someone would take offence at the seeming increase in organisation of Anonymous. Sadly, the way he's going about it is simply an ego trip. We'll end up with opposing factions, and the spirit of Anonymous will be lost, and it'll just become another dull political group.

Which will be targeted by the next generation.

Obviously you're not anonymous if you have a name and a face.

It could be possible that the government, is involved in try to get them to have a civil war with eachother in oder to take them down, cant say I wouldnt do the same. But I definatly support Anon and hope they resolve this.

FalloutJack:
Just as planned...

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I can't wait to see how this turns out.

I wonder if it will sprawl out into other websites not really involved, I also wonder how long this civil conflict will last. More importantly I wonder how long I can keep stealing everyones popcorn without them noticing...

I don't think Anonymous even exists. It's just a bunch of keyboard warriors in forums using the branding.

anyone ever play table top RPG eclipse phase?

cause this was practically prophecy by it. Only that game figured we'd have to wait until internet itself was fully decentralized first, and we are still about a decade before that happens.

Inevitable, this "insubordination" was bound to happen sooner or later. Anonymous organization is like the mythological hydra, but the heads do not follow one master. Thus when arguments and grievances surface, the razor sharp teeth never far away.

Time to sit back and enjoy the show.

Hey, does anyone else notice the sortof rise of big hacker attacks? First PSN, and now this.

Everyone grab some popcorn for the big retard slap fight.

I have the perfect scene for the opening of this movie. A guy sitting at home and a lot of cars pull up to his house. All of the sudden 20 different pizza guys walk up to his door, to deliver a pizza he didn't order. The anonymous wars have begun.

Btw, that would be a great idea cause you could slip in advertisements in there for coke and pepsi and dominos and pizza hut. This is brilliant!

Oh god, this is going to be a good fight...

(sits with other popcorn eaters) Anyone pass up the popcorn? I've brought cookies!

Basically, Anonymous is run by bitchy little children who want to feel like they matter.

This isn't news...

Hmmm, well I have to wonder if this is really meaningful. To put things bluntly (as I have before) Anonymous has in the past made it pretty clear that they aren't the "hordes of /B/" and general masses of users, and not to confuse the two. I think the general abillity of anyone to post anonymously and claim to be a member of Anonymous has confused things substantially, and honestly I'm guessing that what we're seeing right now is a bunch of poseurs beating on each other, largely due to fear over the possible repercussions now that the authorities are publically involved.

If I had to guess at the motivations of "Ryan" it sounds like the actual issue is that he's scared, he basically set himself up as a leader as well, despite what he might say, and was playing Anonymous so much that when something major DID actually happen he's now afraid that by association he's going to get arrested when he really didn't do anything. He's thus offering up the addresses of a lot of other poseurs in order to hopefully buy himself clear, while playing the game of pretending he's acting for the good of the non-organization, when really he's defining "good" as, trying to cripple the most signifigant thing tied to Anonymous that there has been. I mean this goes beyond all the antics with Australia and similar things to a massive degree in the response it's getting and how much it effects people. We're actually seeing a display of power by Anonymous that is frightening and I think it's getting to a lot of the people who were playing at membership.

I'll be honest, saying "we won't attack someone" and concern about innocent users and collateral damage is not exactly the MO of an organization that touts itself as a force of pure chaos... a natural force of The Internet. That has lead me to believe that the guys saying "We're anonymous and we won't attack Sony and hurt the users", or going out of the way to specify that Anonymous isn't involved in the attacks, aren't REALLY Anonymous or speaking for the organization. I think it's a sign that the real Anons have sort of pulled away from the hordes of /B/ and Guy-Fawkes mask antics. Anonymous would never say "we aren't doing this" even if they weren't it would just maintain a silence on the matter and let people draw their own conclusions.

My opinion on this has waffled back and forth on this for a while, but this currently how I see things. As time goes on, this seems increasingly out of character, which makes me think that attention is being focused on the wrong guys.

Krion_Vark:

danpascooch:

Daystar Clarion:

Have this.

http://people.rit.edu/~bss6378/instantCSI/

You deserve it.

Why is my college hosting a picture of sunglasses? And how do you know about it? Do you go to RIT!?

Which RIT is that because I know someone that goes to an RIT.

Rochester Institute of Technology

Stop feeding them now before it's too late you fools !

"Massive troll kings are the largest, ugliest, dumbest, and most powerful creatures in the troll family. Their blood is the most powerful troll's blood that can be used for the spell, Animate Dead (730)."

See that Escapist, Animate Dead ! When the zombie apocalypse comes you will know that it was brought about by your own doings.

Oooh... this should be fun. I'll go get some more popcorn, soda, and other snacks!

AnonOps wasn't a hierarchy, it was a way to organize attacks. By exposing the identities of the people involved in these attacks, Ryan (which is not an Anonymous title) has betrayed the core principle of Anonymous.

Not one of the core principles. The only core principle. Remain Anonymous in your operations, whatever they are.

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