Black Ops II Designer Thinks Gamers "Should All Play Multiplayer"

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Black Ops II Designer Thinks Gamers "Should All Play Multiplayer"

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The fact that not everyone experiences Call of Duty's multiplayer "bugs the shit out of" its developers.

The Call of Duty games might be known for their robust multiplayer modes, but some gamers prefer to explore the campaign solo, forgoing the multiplayer experience for a solitary one. Black Ops II Design Director David Vonderhaar doesn't like that. In a recent interview, Vonderhaar discussed the return of Combat Training mode in Black Ops II, which he hopes will get more gamers to experience the rest of the game's multiplayer offerings.

"As popular as Call of Duty is, there are a lot of people who don't play multiplayer," he said. "And quite frankly, this bugs the shit out of us. They should all play multiplayer. And Combat Training helps us get there." Vonderhaar detailed the new features added to Combat Training, like integrating training progress with a player's "real" multiplayer rank. He went on to discuss fighting bots in Combat Training, saying, "as a new player, that's really rewarding."

It's nice that the developers of Black Ops II are trying to ease new players into the competitive multiplayer realm of Call of Duty, but Vonderhaar seems to be ignoring the fact that some gamers just prefer to play alone. Combat Training for new players should serve as a good learning tool, but no matter how much it bugs Vonderhaar, multiplayer is not for everyone.

Source: One of Swords

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Well make an all multiplayer COD game then, or stop telling people what they should or shouldn't do with the product that they bought.

Well with all due respect David Vonderhaar, go fuck yourself.

Not everybody cares about multiplayer. Why is this so hard to understand?

If Activision employ a PR department, shouldn't they sort of put a lid on these kind of quotes?

Well if your player base stops being a bunch of 4 year olds who do nothing but t-bag corpses and do nothing but insult each other, then maybe I would buy a COD game. Since it is essentially just the MP being sold for $60 every year, hell why not just make it an MMOFPS at this rate, charging people $15 a month would net you a lot more money than making a "new game" every year.

P.S I rarely encountered anyone but said "4 year olds", yes I know that not everyone is an ass but that's just my experience with it,so don't flame me

Well, as soon as they make their version of Tribes: Ascend, I will think about playing it. Until then... gotta go fast.

I hate games slow as CoD.

Have you played with the COD community? Why in the world would I want to play with those people?

I'll stick with bots, thank you very much. They're much more pleasant to be around.

Well mr Vonderhaa, you can kindly go fuck yourself.

I prefer my singleplayer games, or AT BEST local multiplayer.

If I want to play an FPS online I will play Planetside 2

Experience COD multiplayer? Now would that be the generic, bland gameplay, or the 12 year olds hurling the word "faggot" as often as grenades :P

Joking aside, I'm more of a single player person myself.

Maybe if they designed their multiplayer better to be something I'd have a single interest in playing, then I would. And who's fault is that, Mr. Game Designer?

"They should all play multiplayer, so they can't realize how bad the single player is"

Multiplayer is great, I really do love it. I love the competition, the thrill of competing against others and so on.

Sometimes however I just want a solo experience, I just want to enjoy a solo adventure amplified often with my own imagination. Different kinds of play style, neither one better than the other.

I know it would never happen but it would be nice if BO2's release got some massive bug that disabled multiplayer for a week and poor david would have to watch everyone play single player and complain how crappy it is. I can still dream it. :)

...is there a single freaking person in the game industry with common sense!?

And before anyone says Valve, if they had common sense, TF2 would actually be a game instead of a hat sim.

Anyone got a shotgun to this person face? Anyone? ah blarg it.

One thing that needs to happen to mutiplayer modes in games, is better matching up equally skilled and gear people, and for people to be overall nicer to one another in such games.

The latter I doubt will happen anytime soon.

Finally, games should only have mutiplayer if it fits the games settings, like wow, halo, lol. Not every game need said mode (points to single player rpgs.)

And it bugs the shit out of me that you included a multiplayer trophy that says I have to get to level 50. So we can't all have what we want, can we? I'll play your multiplayer, but not because I want to. Because I have to. You had it right in Black Ops: one or two trophies for multiplayer that were easy to obtain. Then, if the player decided they liked it, they could keep playing of their own free will. Now, with the trophy that says you must Prestige once, I'm forced to play it all the way to the end. And if sniping someone still takes two to three shots like it did in Black Ops, I'm not going to enjoy it.

sooo.... it legitimately bugs you that not every one of your millions of customers play multiplayer.

You have the most bloated and popular online game (barring WoW of course) and it bugs you that it's not more?

I have no words for how much I can't understand that mindset...

well :D it must REALLY bug the shit out of him that some people won't touch is his game at all :D

"everyone should have my opinion and taste!"

Nothing to see here people, just another ignorant mad man

Sniper Team 4:
And it bugs the shit out of me that you included a multiplayer trophy that says I have to get to level 50. So we can't all have what we want, can we? I'll play your multiplayer, but not because I want to. Because I have to. You had it right in Black Ops: one or two trophies for multiplayer that were easy to obtain. Then, if the player decided they liked it, they could keep playing of their own free will. Now, with the trophy that says you must Prestige once, I'm forced to play it all the way to the end. And if sniping someone still takes two to three shots like it did in Black Ops, I'm not going to enjoy it.

You know that you aren't required to get every trophy, right? If you don't like the multiplayer, and you keep playing it long enough to reach level 50, that's more on you than them.

Multiplayer is fine; playing with your friends is great. It's just PvP that doesn't appeal to some. Co-op is where it's at and the CoD2 Co-op missions were, IIRC, celebrated as a great addition to the series.

Mr Cwtchy:
Well with all due respect David Vonderhaar, go fuck yourself.

"We understand that Black Ops had an extremely shitty campaign, especially compared to how good Modern Warfare's campaign is. To combat this, we are adding more features to the multiplayer of Black Ops, and taking away from the campaign. So players that want to play a single player game can go fuck themselves or play some gay shit like Elder Scrolls (seriously, that game is for faggots).

By the way, Battlefield < CoD. Just sayin'."

- Something he would probably say, considering his arguments above.

Legion:
Well then make an all multiplayer COD game then, or stop telling people what they should or shouldn't do with the product that they bought.

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Seriously.
I was going to write up something, but you've said everything that needs to be said.

Because when I'm reading a book or watching a movie the experience just isn't complete without a 12 year old screaming 'NOOB!' in my ear and the director commentary telling me how to enjoy it.

It bugs them because people like me don't play multiplayer? Alright then I will continue to bug them by STILL not play multiplayer then.

I value my free time as time for me, not for me and random stangers who are rude / 12 years old.

Thats my day job.

Yeah, I used to find CoD's multiplayer engaging... when it was called GoldenEye 007 on the N64.[flameshield activated]

OT: The problem with CoD's multiplayer really is that it's just become a sport now, and like any sport it's just populated by a bunch of arrogant jocks who think that you're somehow less of a person because you can't get pasta triple killstreak. It's not helped by the incredibly backward, top-heavy incentive system that basically freezes out any newcomers to the game and feeds the jocks' collective ego.

Well, then. Now, don't get me wrong, I like having a match of COD every now and again with friends...But, I'm seriously curious why they don't release a multiplayer only edition.

Sniper Team 4:
And it bugs the shit out of me that you included a multiplayer trophy that says I have to get to level 50. So we can't all have what we want, can we? I'll play your multiplayer, but not because I want to. Because I have to. You had it right in Black Ops: one or two trophies for multiplayer that were easy to obtain. Then, if the player decided they liked it, they could keep playing of their own free will. Now, with the trophy that says you must Prestige once, I'm forced to play it all the way to the end. And if sniping someone still takes two to three shots like it did in Black Ops, I'm not going to enjoy it.

I will never understand why anyone gives even half a shit about trophies, achievments, etc, much less care enough to play a style of gaming they don't enjoy. I mean, play the game the way you want to; I just think it's weird that you choose to play a game in a manner you obviously don't like.

The thing that bugs the shit out of me? Tacked on shitty multiplayer. Not because I play it and hate it(because I don't play it at all), but rather that it detracts from the funding that could have been used to make a better single player experience.

Multiplayer lacks story, and that's good. No one wants to play a multiplayer game teeming with story because after the 20th match it gets tiresome, but some enjoy a good story. The fact the director is blissfully unaware of this says a lot about the developer.

Dear god, more sensationalist journalism from this place.

The title of the article isn't at all what he said. They created a mode to help ease people into multiplayer, people who wouldn't play because they don't think they're ready or experienced enough.

And it's construed as him saying "ZOMG EVERYONE SHUD PLAY TEH MULTIPLAYER!" Good job.

And I don't even like CoD. But lets not like CoD for reasons it shouldn't be liked, lets not make up reasons to dislike it.

I do not like other people in general. Why would I like the inoying 12 year olds that keep playing your 18+ games?

How about this David Vonderhaar? Why not stop your complaining and look at the fact that everyone is different, and just may not enjoy a story-less multiplayer compared to a single player that has a plot as much as others do, and the fact that every person doesn't want to play a multiplayer mode that is full of hackers, 12-year-olds, and jerks proving Gabe's Law of Internet Anonymity? It shouldn't "bug the shit out of you" that the people who play your games can use them in the way they want.
If you glanced at me, you might think I was one of those gamers that only likes to play single-player games, but that's not at all true. I love multiplayer, when it is interesting. Some of my current favorite games are PlanetSide 2, Dayz, Guild Wars 2. These are all games that only do multiplayer, and they each do it in awesome, unique ways, unlike Call of Duty.

That bothers you?

Good.

:)

You know what...fine. The game is multiplayer-centric, and it is VERY easy to see the, "We offer so much content in the multiplayer and I think people who just play single player are missing out" quote that is hideing just beneath the surface here. Yeah, the quotes not good, but thats because he doesn't sound like a PR type, and forcing multiplayer is a sore subject these days, between Spec Ops calling there multiplayer mode a Cancerous growth, to EA talking about the death of single player games, which would be disastrous for the medium. But give this guy some slack: He is not saying that his SP is bad, or that other gam,es should move away from SP. He is just saying that not playing the MP portion is missing out on a lot of content. And you know what? Hes not wrong. Don't burn him at the stake for not wording his idea perfectly.

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