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That. I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY MULTIPLAYER GAMES. I just want to spend time by myself, playing a game by myself, having fun by myself, with no one else around to ruin the experience. Simple. I just wish companies would listne to me on this one. THere is a reason Skyrim sold so well, so people like me, can play it by myself. | |
Why is this a worthy story for the News Room? Better yet, why are people actually getting upset over some guy's passing comment that essentially comes down to "I wish more people played the multiplayer I designed"? | |
I am not against multiplayer in games, even shooters, but Call of Duty multiplayer just doesn't interest me at all. | |
Oh god. Why did no one censor his statement? This is going to cause all kinds of shit with that annoying little subset of people who get all pissy over this kind of stuff. God, why do people have to get so upset when a developer or industry person expresses an opinion and go into huge tirades about how wrong they are and how bad their company is? I don't even need to read the responses to start getting a headache. | |
Why wouldn't you want to play with the Call of Duty community? They're all such nice charmi- BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh god I couldn't finish that. | |
In the words of Jon Jafari, "Well you can't tell me what the heck to do!" | |
Perfect response here, like I give a flying rat fuck what these devs think. Bleh, another game to keep on ignoring... | |
I think Black Ops 2 is a pretty cool guy, eh is multiplayer AND DOESN'T BELIEVE IN OPINIONS. But seriously, fuck Vonderhaar and fuck his game, what happened to being modest? | |
Basically this> I don't know why people take this as an insult. He basically saying what everyone else is thinking. Why would anyone just play HIS game for single player. Pretty sure, people are too much in the habit of mindlessly hating anything COD. | |
I might be inclined to agree with this. He's not exactly abolishing the single player mode, but trying to encourage people to play MP in the game that he designed, fair enough. This guy's comment has been taken out of context.
See, he isn't so bad at all. That's a change of heart from the usual CoD hostility to custom games. There's no reason to be outraged by this sort of innocuous statement. I'm rather disappointed that people reacted angrily without really reading into the original source. But still, attention-grabbing headlines, soundbites, etc, fuel confirmation bias. | |
I wonder if they noticed that the single player is the only good part of call of duty. | |
Ditto. I mean, would Silent Hill 2, Shadow of the Colossus, or Dear Esther been improved (even the slightest) by the inclusion of multiplayer? | |
Seconded. There is a thing called a single-player campaign. That's quite a good thing to have in FPS games. I mainly play FPS's RPG's and such for the single-player aspect, not the multiplayer aspect. Which is why I LOVE Skyrim for giving us a good ol' fashoned single-player story with infinate replayability! | |
awww. someone doesnt like it when people play SP. | |
Oh hey Mr. Vonderhaar, I don't mean to be disrespectful or anything, but would you kindly shut the hell up? Not everyone wants multiplayer, it can be fun and interesting, but, often times, it's more irritating and filled with immature assholes. Granted, that's not really a problem that can be fixed easily or fairly, but it is plagued by it nonetheless. I love my single-player games, and when I do want to play multiplayer, it isn't always COD, since it's pretty much the same game released every year, it gets kinda boring honestly. I don't understand how people can stand to buy it every year but hey, that's their choice, but anyways, I've gotten off topic. You, my good sir, have a very unpopular opinion, and if it really does annoy you that there are people who don't play COD's multiplayer, actually make a goddamn attempt to get them to. Doing the same thing over and over won't make people who didn't want to play it before suddenly start to, it only works to push them away. Complaining about it does no good. | |
The amusing thing is I almost got converted to what I view as multiplayer. Horde Mode via ME3. I loved that multiplayer, as it was multiple players up against a common enemy and everyone had to work together. Then EA started screwing it up with its 'marketing'. I haven't played any recent CoD games, and I don't plan on it. Like most posters in this thread my opinion of that style of 'Multiplayer' is not positive, and for the same reason. So here's my suggestion to you guys. Rent the game. Don't buy it. Developers take the popularity of a game based on an initial time period of sales, so don't go to it straight away. It's like the opening weekend at the Box Office, just because a movie sells well initially doesn't make it good, and people don't seem to care. Why do you think they love Pre-orders? People who pre-order this game are the reason why this genre of game will NEVER die. So why buy it new? You know you aren't going to enjoy the experience, so don't get up in arms about it. Michael Bay is re-doing the TMNT. Doesn't mean I am going to encourage his behaviour by watching it. So why should we encourage this guy? | |
And if I even was going to play MP, it certainly wouldn't be a Call of Duty game. They're total trash. | |
Anyone who plays CoD for the single player missions is probably a bit of an anomaly. I don't like how more and more huge release games feel the need to have multiplayer, because that is not and has never been my "thing", but for CoD, I always thought multiplayer was sort of the point. Now if they added multiplayer to a lonely horror experience like Dead Space, that would just be st--oh, wait | |
HOW TO FIX THIS: Just give up and don't bother with the single player campaign. Alternately: Don't allow your fanbase to be so utterly, completely DRAINING to play with. | |
I knew this quote was going to be knee-jerk reactiony/out of context | |
To my mind, the day when the majority of the experience to be had is in multiplayer is the day when people should stop buying new versions of the franchise. Seriously. Why should people put their hard-earned money into an experience when the designer is banking on other people to provide the part that's worth coming back to? | |
TL:DR version; those acrid and self-indulgent puddles of toxic waste aren't going to vomit themselves onto the page, so get on it! This is one of the few subjects I feel strongly about. My thoughts on this issue using the analogy of conjoined twins Timmy and his brother Geoffry; | |
Listen here, Treyarch: I have, on my computer, Team Fortress 2 and Blacklight: Retribution. Furthermore, it is a simple task to get Super Monday Night Combat and/or Tribes: Ascend. Now, Blacklight: Retribution essentially captures the soldier feel you're going for but it has mechs and a special see-through-wall visor. Why, exactly, should I play your multiplayer? | |
Never mind me...made a mistake. Wrong topic. | |
I like playing Multiplayer-like games, but I hate interacting with people online. Therefore, modes where you get to play multiplayer with bots is awesome and I'm glad to see it return here. But seriously, what a creep. | |
The old adage is true: don't hate the player, hate the game. I'm trying to figure out if Mr. Vonderhaar is sore due to the lackluster response to CoD: Elite, or if he genuinely thinks more people on multiplayer is a better thing. Personally, I don't have the patience to endure the Sisyphean torture that is hitting Prestige multiple times over, five hours a night, while 12-year old kids scream into their mike and yell things like "cocksucking fucking faggot" over and over again. The only people I see enduring that kind of torture are Youtube partners monetizing it or people with far, far too much free time on their hands. It's the same mentality that leads people to post videos like "Why MW3 is the worst game of all time" while having 95 out of 100 reasons focus on improper balancing in the multiplayer. Unless they're planning to make a F2P multiplayer-only installment, trying to force everyone to get into multiplayer will be a waste of time. CoD built its reputation on having some of the consistently best-scripted and tightly-plotted campaigns in any franchise. I don't think many people would deny that when you buy a CoD game, you're essentially getting a 4-hour thrill ride (with the multiplayer being the cherry on top). If Activision has so much confidence in their product (enough to can the previous visionaries of the series and start selling map packs for $15 a pop), then they should put their money where their mouth is and go multiplayer-only, and see how the fans react. CAPTCHA: don't tase me(!) | |
Why else would I want to buy a bundle pack of old FPS' during a Steam sale? | |
Slow news day for the Escapist, eh? | |
So basically this guy is ignorant of the basic fact that some people plain don't like CoD or it's multiplayer for a multitude of reasons. Can't say I'm surprised to hear people like this say that. It's par for the course these days along with having a completely incompetent PR department. Though I still don't get how it can be so hard to hire a decent PR team... | |
LOL If you have ever read any of my posts, you may know me to be the first to say: "FUCK MULTIPLAYER!" That being said, I can get the frustration behind the loly/Valve kiddies not trying out the best multiplayer forum. It pisses me off that kids take sides based on status, and not reality. | |
I'll give Activision credit - they have far fewer PR blunders to their name than EA, which seems to actively relish in putting their feet in their mouths at least once a week. As someone who actually does work in PR, I have never seen a company botch their customer/media relations as badly as they have. That seems to be symptomatic of many publishers/developers, though. No one seems to know how to deal with bad press in the gaming blogs or mainstream press. Activision tried to shove the West/Zampella debacle under the rug, and we all know how that turned out. EA looked on helplessly while their public speakers botched publicity stunts and dialogue with the fans. | |
I see David has fallen firmly into EA's party line of "All multi, all day, every day" Try not to gag too much on EA's copulatory organ... and save some for the other developers. | |
Really? That's funny because.....
The follow up in discussing Combat Training mode is no way changes the meaning of his quoted opinion. Quite the contrary, it shows his quoted opinion is both serious and literal as the sole purpose of Combat Training mode is to try and entice people into MP for the goal of satisfying his egotistical agenda. It also shows he has no damned idea why most people who don't play multiplayer don't play it.
Sorry, nothing was twisted, he said what he said, and said it for a reason. In reading the full article, the context of what he said is still clear.
Boohoo. That he chose to spend his time focusing on developing one side of the game that only appeals to part of the gamer base is not the rest of the gamers problem. He is not owed an audience. Like all artists, the only thing he is entitled to is an opportunity to be accepted by those that appreciate that style of creation. His opinion shows a full of himself arrogant attitude demanding recognition for his efforts because he thinks he so damn special and wonderful. To that end, David needs to be strapped into a female donkey costume and let loose in a field of horny male donkey's for a few days. | |
It's not that long since Activision was in EA's spot, but I guess EA got jealous of Activisions status as the big turd of the industry and decided to steal it from them. Or Activision managed to find a semi-decent PR team that learned how to put a sock in Koticks mouth before the guy says something stupid. I don't think Kotick ever managed to say anything that didn't piss off huge chunks of gamers. | |
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The fact that you pump out the same damn game with new content equivalent to a DLC-patch and charge full price for it, every year, well...THAT bugs the shit out of ME, Mr Developer.