Kim Dotcom Reveals New "Mega" Strategy

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fractured_sanity:

YEAH! Let's also make public storage illegal because it might be used for illegal things too!

No I have a better idea. Let's endorse something which has been pretty much designed to facilitate illegal activity, even though there's faster and simpler alternatives.

I mean, how is this business model in any way legit? They're not doing anything to secure people's privacy that those people couldn't already do. The only factor here is that they've found a shady loophole which lets them host illegal content with impunity.

It could only be more immoral if it was re-branded to "pedos-n-pirates.com"

BeerTent:

fractured_sanity:

James Joseph Emerald:
It's a great day for child porn enthusiasts and people who don't like to pay for movies, music or games.

I mean, fucking hell. People actually support an anonymous file-sharing site with no legal accountability?
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YEAH! Let's also make public storage illegal because it might be used for illegal things too!

I think I'm going to side with Fractured here...

Not a clue what's being uploaded? No responsibility? To me, that sounds like bad news. If you want to upload something to the internet, there are plenty of legal, free ways of doing it if your a standard user. Billions if your a company. While you may have your right to privacy, I still feel that, should you upload something that's illegal is every state and province for the entire public to see, you should still be held accountable. Google has it's own thing to share your documents to others for free. Want to share any file imaginable? Dropbox has you covered.

Want to share a file to ALL of the internet? You have torrents(Yes, you can distribute legal files via Torrents. Torrent is not synonymous with illegal.) and FTP. Also Dropbox...

Aaaaand, With the original topic? Kim's already been beat. We already have this, without the encryption.

A bit behind the times are we? Google got rid of the documents thing and switched to drive, you can store any files you want andshare them now so they are in full competition with drop box, and last I checked they have better rates for large storage as well ~.^

Burst6:
You can't distribute legal files with torrents well unless you have a lot of seeders. Peer 2 peer has an advantage when there are lots of people downloading/seeding, but it's at a disadvantage if it's less popular or if people decide to be selfish and stop seeding as soon as they finish downloading.

Of course you can.

Just seed with a seedbox/fileserver. So instead of everyone just downloading from the same server, now everyone leeches from the same seeder, as well as from everyone else too. Result = Less strain on the server, more speed for users. This is pretty basic stuff. In fact, it's the fundamental benefit of torrenting technology.

The reason unpopular torrents tend to be slow is because there's no high speed dedicated seeders. A single seed with a decent connection can easily breathe life into a dying or even dead torrent. A legal distributor would have a dedicated seedbox, so the torrent would be alive regardless of how many people decide to seed.

Why do you not know this?

The file sharing arms race continues? It'll be interesting to see where this goes, methinks. In the mean time, good stuff all round. No matter what your opinions on piracy; what happened with Megaupload was bullshit.

Burst6:

BeerTent:
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You can't distribute legal files with torrents well unless you have a lot of seeders. Peer 2 peer has an advantage when there are lots of people downloading/seeding, but it's at a disadvantage if it's less popular or if people decide to be selfish and stop seeding as soon as they finish downloading.

Wholeheartedly false. If you have one seed that is up 24/7, anybody can utilize that connection and download from it. If user 1 gets the first file held by the torrent and user 2 comes along, User 2 can download the first file from user one if they choose to, and download file six from the primary seed. Torrents build themselves over time, they don't need to be wildly popular, just one good 100% seed.

I'd explain further, but you know the rest. In hindsight Perhaps Torrents are better suited for companies, but they will never fully adapt them just because of their piracy nature. To host/use a torrent file, you just need one dedicated connection to your tracker, and a place to host the torrent file. For something, say, a F2P game, or a Mod for a popular game, Torrents would be the way to go.

FelixG:
[...]A bit behind the times are we? Google got rid of the documents thing and switched to drive, you can store any files you want andshare them now so they are in full competition with drop box, and last I checked they have better rates for large storage as well ~.^

I... Did not know... I thought their Google-drive was still restricted to a select few file-types... I would look further into it, but I'm already situated quite warmly between the older version of Microsoft Sync for backups and Dropbox to manage file-hosting, MC saves, and my documents. I'm also avoiding Google Plus.

BeerTent:
I... Did not know... I thought their Google-drive was still restricted to a select few file-types... I would look further into it, but I'm already situated quite warmly between the older version of Microsoft Sync for backups and Dropbox to manage file-hosting, MC saves, and my documents. I'm also avoiding Google Plus.

They opened it up to everything about a year back if my memory serves, I use it as sort of a cloud save for my non steam games.

I too am disliking the increased google plus interaction with everything, so I have locked my google plus down as much as possible.

thenumberthirteen:
Not really. E-mail has a 25Mb limit per file, and there are so many times that I've had to send files to people or myself and it was just over the limit. Skype is good, but not if you want to send it to yourself. Also you have to both be online so you can't send something for later.

You could always just host your own FTP server. It's not terribly hard to set up, especially with the whole cloud boom. You can rent an Amazon server for a dollar or two a month (possibly even for free if you don't need the bandiwidth that comes with public distribution) and use that for all your file sharing/sending needs.

James Joseph Emerald:

No I have a better idea. Let's endorse something which has been pretty much designed to facilitate illegal activity, even though there's faster and simpler alternatives.

I mean, how is this business model in any way legit? They're not doing anything to secure people's privacy that those people couldn't already do. The only factor here is that they've found a shady loophole which lets them host illegal content with impunity.

It could only be more immoral if it was re-branded to "pedos-n-pirates.com"

I'd venture to guess that if this service just popped up quietly with no past history or affiliations that you'd have little issue with it.
Encryption isn't new, and neither is spreading cloud data around.
Tools are amoral not immoral.

Draxz:

thenumberthirteen:
Unlike, say, Dropbox where I just log in and can access all my files without having dozens of unique passwords.

To me this now makes it worse than the other services out there.

Yeah, I remember one or two called "MSN" and "Hotmail". E-mail is still a useful way of file-transfer, along with using apps like Skype. Though, there's also memory cards/sticks and external hard-drives that are just as good.

OT: But I think this has a very big issue... Especially since torrents are better. The Pirate Bay doesn't full on it's face and die because it's in a legal system, not only a search engine but (if I remember correctly), the founders aren't breaking laws where they're located. (Though, don't hold this against me. I can't remember what the actual situation was).

Still, I don't see why they don't re-open MegaUpload again but in a remote location, outside and privately/secretly fund a sub-group controlling it. I know that would be complicated but this idea's pretty shite.

Because TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE.

Agayek:

thenumberthirteen:
Not really. E-mail has a 25Mb limit per file, and there are so many times that I've had to send files to people or myself and it was just over the limit. Skype is good, but not if you want to send it to yourself. Also you have to both be online so you can't send something for later.

You could always just host your own FTP server. It's not terribly hard to set up, especially with the whole cloud boom. You can rent an Amazon server for a dollar or two a month (possibly even for free if you don't need the bandiwidth that comes with public distribution) and use that for all your file sharing/sending needs.

I've considered that, but I use it less often than I used to. When I was in University I probably could have done with that, but the services were't as cheap then as they were today.

fractured_sanity:

I'd venture to guess that if this service just popped up quietly with no past history or affiliations that you'd have little issue with it.
Encryption isn't new, and neither is spreading cloud data around.
Tools are amoral not immoral.

Well, you're correct in that if I didn't know the founder was taking such deliberate measures to circumvent the law I wouldn't be as irritated.
But this is such an egregious (and egotistically juvenile) attempt to give the finger to the authorities. It's not about freedom or privacy, it's about a guy who is so smugly self-absorbed he named himself after his own shady business, who makes use of legal loopholes to get away with criminal activity.

It's people's complacency that really pisses me off though. It's all well and good until it's your work being leaked or naked pictures of your daughter being passed around. Then it's "why can't the feds help me this is bullshit how did the world get like this?"

That sounds pretty solid. I'm curious to see how the single-user encryption key system's going to deter pirates, though, because I kind of doubt it will. I give it six months before we start hearing about filesharing boards swapping keys for stuff like "REAL.LEGiT.ADOBE.PHOTOSHOP.FULLCRACK.EXE".

Either that or the rest of the berjillion services still playing host to pirated stuff and ignoring it see a massive swell in their client base, with Dotcom's previous fat load of cash shrinking as the pirates and enablers leave Mega for the scant few people who won't bother with USB thumb drives or email attachments.

Well i take it files are going to have to be named arent they? Is this just going to be for personal storage or will other user be able to access your stuff?

I mean if you have "Game of Thrones series 3" on a filename how can you void your responsibility for holding copyrighted content? Governments are under increasing pressure to clamp down on this sort of thing. The nutters in the witchhunt they started to bring Dotcom down in the first place are hardly going to walk to walk away shaking their heads saying "Encrytion ha! Should have thought of that" worst case they can always change the laws which they have already tried.

Do...do you hear that?...it...sounds like...money...piles upon piles of money...and laughing...

(Overall the idea sounds pretty good from a security and privacy standpoint, and benefits from being direct downloading rather than a Torrent system).

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