Dragon's Crown Designer Apologizes for Exaggerated Characters

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Ok now that he had to apologise over the whole affair, can everyone please stop complaining/ raging over it now?

The last thing I want to see is for him to competely have to redesign the character just to applease those who got upset over a frictional character (I doubt that will happen now seeing that game is almost out, far beyond from delevopment unless they decide to delay it just to tinker with it).

Some of those characters look jiggly.

Jigggllllly. Jigglejigglejiggle. Okay I'm stopping

Apologize for the kerfuffle, but the art is...well it's not my thing, but it's art...it's a choice. I support that.

Well if this is bothering all those people. I wish my biggest problem was scantily clad characters in video game.

captcha: allergic reaction
*that captcha, exactly how i feel when righteous internet warriors for truth and equality get all angry about pointless stuff like this*

I don't think we should ever apologize again for stupid silly fun. We can apologize until we are out of breath but some people will just never be happy until we act like a bunch of eunuchs who never have any sexual thoughts for any reason. Some people just aren't going to be happy with anything short of it being a crime to ever find another person or representation of a person attractive.

I'm male. Sometimes that means I'm crass, sometimes it even means I act like a bit of a cave man but I can laugh at myself for finding absurd art strangely appealing. Yes I've seen cartoons like Queen's Blade, but I still know what real women look like and I don't hold them to some insane notion of perfection. Perhaps it's a horrible thing but maybe men should be allowed to be men as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.

This game looks kind of neat... I like the art style. A few characters of both genders are exaggerated - but nothing we haven't seen before. I also understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

The reality is, if it offends you and aren't into it, don't buy it. Same way I'm not into and don't buy firemen calendars.

yes this apology is necessary, i cant begin to tell you how much the sight of those dwarves offends me. dwarves are not made of bricks!

oh and i liked the sorceress and her massive heaving boobages.

Honestly, who is still offended by stuff like this?
That's bloody retarded.

I think if people are offended by these character designs they need to look up the definition of the word "Satire".

Is the escapist also gonna apologize for using this image of an "oddly proportioned" woman in all the thumbnails and the facebook post? It's clearly only there to get the site more views. You can't be hypocritical when it comes to arguing about shit like this. Everyone loves a pair of big ol' titties, chill the hell out.

No one should ever apologize to that scum of the industry that is the tabloid outlet known as Gawker.

I'm amazed nobody has posted this, yay, means I can be of use in a thread. This is an interesting post from someone somewhere and it makes good sense to me (slight NSFW in the form of Ancient Statues)):

Sooo...yeah, that's my thought, apologizing for it was kind of silly.

>2013
>Still giving a shit about what the crazy ultra-feminists and white knights on Kotaku say
>ISHYGDDT

I think he should of apologized.

Not because it is distasteful (go far enough off the deep end and everything stops being offensive) but because it just is bad.

It only vaguely looks human, it reminds me of bad image comics done in a vaguely anime style. I don't care how large the boobs are, I care more that the proporitions just makes everything look creepy.

Just look at it from an outsiders perspective ...

You buy this game, you sit down to play it, after looking over the choices you choose the which 'cos you like the play style and casting magic, off you go on you're merry adventure.

Your mum/dad/sister/brother/friend walk in and see this stick figure with 2 watermelons bouncing around like water balloons held by a broken law of physics ... what are they going to be thinking? "Wow, the art in this game is really pretty and the characters are so well designed"? Or are they going to think "you dirty perv, I knew this gaming stuff was for immature people"?

Then getting onto the guys, they would snap in half at the waist! There lumbering upper bodies couldn't be supported with scaffolding.

The art in this game just looks so immature, outrageously muscled men (which isn't sexualisation, that would be a guy wearing tight jeans with a 2 footer down his left leg) and disproportional women ... talk about giving women image disorders.

To get away from the sexy talk, is he apologizing for just the sweaty dwarves or is he apologizing for his size -3 witch have Z boobs?

Comes out for PS3? A definite miss from me!

Just a point on the archer
(Everyone seems to agree she's really quite good for a female character)
I agree, she does look pretty awesome, and certainly more empowering for me than the other lot.
But can I point out the picture in which she's firing her arrow- she's been positioned for male gaze despite her "less-sexualised" design.

e.g. her torso, on the thin side, can only be doing an 180 degree turn for her arms to be positioned where they are and her bust to be facing forwards, yet where would then naturally be her front, her waist warps into her butt. Hm.
Try and imagine a man in this pose. Seem ridiculous yet? http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/

- Anyone else disturbed by the Sorceress holding a staff between her buttocks and pushing a skeletons face into her cleavage?

I don't know, I feel that the style in Odin Sphere was unique in itself that it stood out in a good way. I don't see the need for him to rely so heavily on sex appeal when he proved himself capable of making a beautiful and stylized game already? I loved Odin Sphere and I respect his choices in art, but that does not mean I will be buying it.

Not G. Ivingname:
I think he should of apologized.
Not because it is distasteful (go far enough off the deep end and everything stops being offensive) but because it just is bad.

he needs to apologize because you dont like his art? because it doesnt look human? why is it relevant, how "human" a fantasy character looks? in particular when hardly any of them are actually human?

your avatar doesn't look human, but it doesnt offend me, and i dont expect whoever drew it to apologize to me.

captcha: agree to disagree

Picture 10, that lucky skeleton!

Okay, seriously, it's not my sort of style but honestly, who cares? It's human nature to enjoy sexualised stuff and enjoying a picture of a stick figure with a couple of melons attached doesn't automatically mean one expects all real women to look the same, each to their own. Personally I think it looks silly but I'm not going to begrudge anyone-else it if it's what they like.

OT: I don't care particularly about him apologising or whether he did indeed apologise correctly. He is perfectly within his right to produce obscene caricatures, he only needs to apologise if his distasteful response to the Kotaku reporter was intently homophobic. Otherwise he dealt the man childish insult for childish insult and it's worth nobodies time.

This is not the issue here. The issue isn't this one game with ridiculous depictions of men and women, it's that these depictions are pervasive throughout gaming. It's just that this game works as a fantastic example of how tired and vulgar the medium has become. Feminists do not want an elimination of all games demeaning men or women, but simply for this NOT to be the norm for games.
Is it pervasive in all games? I do believe Anita Sarkeesian is checking.

Andy Chalk:
But is it worth an apology?

Nope, he has nothing to apologise for to the best of my knowledge*. I didn't see and don't know the details of the alleged homophobia, but I'm willing to give a guy using google bloody translate the benefit of the doubt.

And if so, is Kamitani's, with its unmissable "I'm sorry you didn't get it" deflection, sufficient?

I would have preferred for him to have tendered the pitchfork wielding mob a succinct "fuck off", but I'm aware that for all the obvious reasons that wouldn't have been an option conducive to continued employment. I am at least satisfied that "bite me" was the true spirit of his justly false contrition.

So sick of hearing about this, the Kotaku guy is a idiot, he claims he's not asking for censorship but wants the guy to consider others when making the designs. That's bloody censorship in it's most basic form and problem is you'll offend someone no matter what you do so it's just a waste of time.

The sorceress would be a bit silly if EVERY character didn't have something exaggerated about them, giant shoulders, fists, heads, beards, chests,breasts, legs. And it's not like the game is freakin' sexist the amazon is larger than the other characters and probably kicks twice as much ass given her size. And oh no she has very little clothing! ...Except so does the dwarf. It's no more shocking than a Boris Valeho painting.

Why should he apologize for his personal style? I kinda like it, to be honest. The guys look like Johnny Bravo and the chicks look like Chun Li. And one has comically oversized titties.

In fact, I think they'd all fit rather well on some old metal album covers. Like Manowar...

Zigot66:
I saw that Sorceress and just kind of shook my head, but now that I've seen the other characters and how stylized they are, I'm actually ready to defend this design. I haven't read any of the surrounding controversy and I'm not going to comment on that, but if people have that much of a problem with a clearly stylized and exaggerated art style, it's their problem, not the creator's.

I think this is an obvious case of translation issues... I do not think he knows what a caricature is, because that is what he drew....... These are obviously caricatures of people.... Unless a head is supposed to be 1/8th the size of a forearm....

The one that should apologize is Jason Schreier for being a douche.

It's a sad day for gaming when George Kamitani has to explain what is rather obvious, and sadder still he has to apologise because some people are too sensitive, immature and hypocritical when it comes to big breasts in videogames.

Read this.
Knew I shouldn't have.
Did it anyway.
Feel like I must go kill everyone now.

I swear if he ends up changing the style I will personally eat everyone's soul.

You know, people complaining about people trying to censor this guy are basically advocating for censorship of criticism.

You have every right to like his art style, but you have no right to tell us to shut up if we think it sucks and we want to say that.

Well Congrats internet, you just made a man apologize for creating the art he wants to create.

I really hate you.

Calamity:
Well Congrats internet, you just made a man apologize for creating the art he wants to create.

I really hate you.

We criticized him because he created something that we didn't like. When someone puts something out for the public to consume, it is open to criticism.

My only real issue with the sorceress is that her clothing doesn't convey Powerful Necromancer to me. She looks like she's in a halloween outfit from the fetish store using her prop staff as a butt-scratcher.

... Unless she's not supposed to be a powerful necromancer and she's actually a seductress using moves like charm... then it fits... kinda.

EDIT:

Ok, I just saw the gameplay footage of her for the first time and found it less sexy and more hilarious. Her movements are so ridiculous they achieve self parody.

SacremPyrobolum:
Those certainly are some "exaggerated characters!"

Eh? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh?

Shut up, who do you think I am, Daystar?

Well you're clearly not...

OT: Now, we've known about this game for, how long? A year now? And its only now that people start getting up in arms over this?

*Edit*

erttheking:

Calamity:
Well Congrats internet, you just made a man apologize for creating the art he wants to create.

I really hate you.

We criticized him because he created something that we didn't like. When someone puts something out for the public to consume, it is open to criticism.

Are you one of those people that stood by Bioware's original ME3 endings, and felt they shouldnt have to change it for the fans? Cuz if you were, then I may die happy...

JemothSkarii:
I'm amazed nobody has posted this, yay, means I can be of use in a thread. This is an interesting post from someone somewhere and it makes good sense to me (slight NSFW in the form of Ancient Statues)):

Sooo...yeah, that's my thought, apologizing for it was kind of silly.

You sir/ma'am are awesome and have my thanks for sparring me the hassle of looking for this stuff myself.

Not G. Ivingname:
I think he should of apologized.

Not because it is distasteful (go far enough off the deep end and everything stops being offensive) but because it just is bad.

It only vaguely looks human, it reminds me of bad image comics done in a vaguely anime style. I don't care how large the boobs are, I care more that the proporitions just makes everything look creepy.

And you, I highly disagree with your view of these characters.

piinyouri:
Read this.
Knew I shouldn't have.
Did it anyway.
Feel like I must go kill everyone now.

I swear if he ends up changing the style I will personally eat everyone's soul.

does your soul eating rampage have room for a +1?

Calamity:
Well Congrats internet, you just made a man apologize for creating the art he wants.

I really hate you.

And I am with your hate dood!

This strikes me as looking for something to complain about more than anything else. Yes the sorceress taken on it's own seems like sexualization for the sake of it, but when compared to the rest of the art the theme of exaggeration is easily seen both on the male and female characters. I am not a big fan of the art style myself but I do love the design of the Elf/Archer who is easily the most downplayed of the bunch. So, while I don't particularly like it, I defend this as an artistic choice rather than just a "now I'm going to add some boobies" moment.

WanderingFool:

SacremPyrobolum:
Those certainly are some "exaggerated characters!"

Eh? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh?

Shut up, who do you think I am, Daystar?

Well you're clearly not...

OT: Now, we've known about this game for, how long? A year now? And its only now that people start getting up in arms over this?

*Edit*

erttheking:

Calamity:
Well Congrats internet, you just made a man apologize for creating the art he wants to create.

I really hate you.

We criticized him because he created something that we didn't like. When someone puts something out for the public to consume, it is open to criticism.

Are you one of those people that stood by Bioware's original ME3 endings, and felt they shouldnt have to change it for the fans? Cuz if you were, then I may die happy...

I was one of the people who criticized both the old ending and the new. Frankly they both sucked. Also when the dipshit head of the creator team writes the ending by himself while locking the rest of the team out, then really pulling the "artistic integrity" card is laughable because your artistic integrity is already dead in a ditch.

Are they the small-headed, large-breasted horse people? I imagine they would make excellent sprinters.

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