Drone Hunting License In the Works In Colorado Town

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LOL, nice.

But I'm still of two minds on this.

On the one hand this is great because it gives pause to the people who make/operate the drones and forces them to make the drones stay out of both the notice and the reach of the people.

On the other hand this will eventually get complicated as we get drones that actually do useful things like "delivering your pizza" being shot for shits and giggles.

Plus all the ways this will end up endangering people lives because we are talking about a hunting ground that is basically your own city or rather close to it. Or people taking it to extremes or finding loopholes and start shooting things they aren't supposed to, things we don't consider to be drones but technically are.

Still, this may just the the right first step, I just hope they're considering the long-term effects of this and work out all the kinks early... *sigh* Of course they won't, but they'll have to eventually.

DVS BSTrD:
Let's see how gung-ho these morons are when they realize the drones can shoot back.
And they'd better not pretend they give a shit about government spending when they go out of their way to damage government property. They'll be paying more for the repairs then they will for the licenses. But hey, as long as their tax dollars aren't going to welfare programs for illegal immigrants.

Do you want fucking armed drones flying around watching you? How much more 1984 could you get? Granted, they're really going around this the wrong way but I admire their willingness to fight back. Not to mention, 'not giving a shit about government spending'? As if they have any say in it? Their tax dollars are being spent on drones to monitor *YOU* not to protect muh freedums but to watch you, the people, fuck that.

Kheapathic:
I wish my town would adopt something like this. Wouldn't happen though, California is afraid of guns and just about everything else. May need to move to Colorado.

Xan Krieger:
Here in Mooresville, North Carolina I might have to talk to the mayor, I'd love a law like this. If one of them flies low enough it should be possible to down it.

Yeah and whole Axiom of 'What goes up, must come down' will be ignored.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

Chances are those dumb bastards will do more damage than an actual Predator drone strike will.

Besides apart from civilian models and the cheaper human launched UAV's most drones operated above the effective range of rifles because they get deployed in actual combat zones.

The Wykydtron:
As an Englishman I have but one thing to say:

Lol America. You are so funny sometimes.

I mean we have some surveillance bullshit going on but actual spy drones? Really? That's like a thing now? Legitimately? A Land of the Free (lol jk) joke is waiting to be told...

First reaction is not to protest against them or anything like that, nope fuckin' destroy them with lasers! Best!

While there has been talk about using drones to patrol the border with Mexico, there is no indication that government has been using them to spy on its own civilians, least of all an obscure town in Colorado. The man is basically paranoid.

However,if people in that town were to take this drone hunting thing seriously this could be a problem. Normally I would regard this drone hunting thing as harmless stupidity since in most parts of the US I doubt you'd see a drone fly over your house. However, as an earlier poster pointed out, they are not too far from an air force base and are even closer to the US Air Force Academy. If they do see a drone fly overhead chances are it will just be on a practice/training flight and not spying on them.

So basically you'd be wasting millions of dollars in taxpayer money (drone repairs)and recklessly endangering the lives of the people due to falling bullets and drone fragments just because you think the government is using drones to spy on you.

Just send some Predator Drones there, they'd probably lose their bravado when they learn the Drones can shoot back.

DerangedHobo:

DVS BSTrD:
Let's see how gung-ho these morons are when they realize the drones can shoot back.
And they'd better not pretend they give a shit about government spending when they go out of their way to damage government property. They'll be paying more for the repairs then they will for the licenses. But hey, as long as their tax dollars aren't going to welfare programs for illegal immigrants.

Do you want fucking armed drones flying around watching you? How much more 1984 could you get? Granted, they're really going around this the wrong way but I admire their willingness to fight back. Not to mention, 'not giving a shit about government spending'? As if they have any say in it? Their tax dollars are being spent on drones to monitor *YOU* not to protect muh freedums but to watch you, the people, fuck that.

I think the issue here is that the guy is trying to create a solution to a problem that doesn't exist...yet. I'm not saying that the government doesn't spy on its people, but I'm sure they don't do so with drones. Granted this may just be purely symbolic and meant to discourage the government from using drones to spy in the future.

On the other hand he may actually believe that drones are being used to spy on US civilians right now. If some drone on a training flight happens to fly overhead and he decides to take a shot at it he is potentially wasting the taxpayers money and endangering the lives of those around him just because he's paranoid. And when you consider the fact that his town isn't too far from an air force base and the air force academy I can definitely see this scenario happening.

Am I the only one who thought this was a hunting license for hunting WITH drones? God, this is a lot better news than I thought it would be.

Kheapathic:

Mid Boss:

Kheapathic:
I wish my town would adopt something like this. Wouldn't happen though, California is afraid of guns and just about everything else. May need to move to Colorado.

Have fun there.

"Steel admitted that he's never actually seen a drone flying over the town"

"the licenses, which would sell for $25 for a year, could be a big source of revenue for the town, stating that they'd "sell like hotcakes."

"Even if a tiny percentage of people get online [for a] drone license, that's cool. That's a lot of money to a small town like us"

First of all, shooting up into the sky wildly in populated areas. Nothing bad could EVER come of that. But, mostly, I love how they aren't hiding, at all, that they're preying on people's fears to make money. But morons are still buying it hook, line, and sinker. What a wonderfully fucked up country we live in.

I should run for office. If this is all it takes the manipulate people I'd have the United States wrapped around my finger in a matter of months. I think my election platform will be to blow up the moon in order to keep gay, Muslim, Hispanic, atheist, Hitler from stealing our women and jobs.

Millions would be marching in the streets chanting "Hell no the moon must go!"

I'd be the world's first super villain. My God.... it would be beautiful....

Just remember that when scientists tell you that destroying the moon could cause untold and possibly catastrophic damage to the world due to the tides and such... they're all godless heathens so they can't be trusted. Of course with how things are going now, I'm not sure if that'd carry much weight. I see a lot of division, but no real majority.

Oh, no, that's easy. I would just equate the fiction of "changing tides" and "moon chunks bombarding the earth" with global warming and fear. Here, watch.

"It has come to my attention that the scientific community has stopped preaching about their so called "Global Warming" and have allied themselves against our moon destruction plan. And here, I thought Global Warming was the greatest threat to the world as we know it. I am wondering how much gay, Muslim, Hispanic, atheist, Hitler has promised them in scientific funding to say these blatantly false claims. I have it, on good authority, that none of these so called side affects will happen and that anyone who tells you differently is actually super communists who hates freedom and babies. Stand you ground. Protect your freedom, your jobs, and your children and help me stop gay, Muslim, Hispanic, atheist, Hitler ... and super communism."

See, I don't actually respond to the scientific argument, or even state what the scientific argument is. Then I relate that argument to Hitler, Global Warming, Super Communism, job loss, and child abuse. No one knows what Super Communism is, but it sounds sufficiently frightening. As long as people are afraid, you can make them believe anything you want with little to no effort. That's why questionable news outlets will often drop fear words like terrorism, nazis, Hitler, and communism just to name a few even when the issue at hand has nothing to do with any of those things. It works beautifully.

Valderis:
LOL, nice.

But I'm still of two minds on this.

On the one hand this is great because it gives pause to the people who make/operate the drones and forces them to make the drones stay out of both the notice and the reach of the people.

On the other hand this will eventually get complicated as we get drones that actually do useful things like "delivering your pizza" being shot for shits and giggles.

Plus all the ways this will end up endangering people lives because we are talking about a hunting ground that is basically your own city or rather close to it. Or people taking it to extremes or finding loopholes and start shooting things they aren't supposed to, things we don't consider to be drones but technically are.

Still, this may just the the right first step, I just hope they're considering the long-term effects of this and work out all the kinks early... *sigh* Of course they won't, but they'll have to eventually.

This is not really much different than the mayor of an eco-nut town issuing hunting licenses for SUVs. A town government does not have the authority to allow its citizens to destroy private or government property in such a manner. It is not really different than me going over to you and wrecking your cell phone because I do not like that you are using it to take my picture.

Are there actually any laws on the books about taking aerial pictures of an area? This kind of law is essentially government sponsored vandalism and it would never survive any court challenge.

Just to mess with people I would love to get one of those licenses and then shoot up any security cameras at the town hall on the premise that they are "essentially" the same thing as a surveillance drone.

LordLundar:

Machine Man 1992:
Also, keep in mind the kinds of guns people use:

If they're shooting at flying targets, then logically, they're going to use a shotgun. Falling shot, even buckshot, lacks the energy to do anything except bonk you on the head a little.

This is assuming The Man sticks to tiny little quad-rotor drones. If it's a predator drone, your going to need a flak cannon.

Only if it's fired exactly straight up where there's no horizontal momentum. If there is it can still be a lethal round and no one is going to be firing straight vertical.

Here's the proof. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076431/Rachel-Yoder-shot-gun-1-5-miles-away-Amish-girl-15-killed-freak-accident.html

That is the difference between a shotgun and a riffle. Shotguns lack the nearly air tight rifled barrel that rifles have, which in turn causes most of the energy to be lost to open air. Since the story you mentioned is a story about rifle rounds, it has little to no bearing on the above comment.

OT: I think this is a horrible idea, and I highly doubt this will end well. Someone somewhere is going to get hurt, either financially or physically over this law.

Nielas:

This is not really much different than the mayor of an eco-nut town issuing hunting licenses for SUVs. A town government does not have the authority to allow its citizens to destroy private or government property in such a manner. It is not really different than me going over to you and wrecking your cell phone because I do not like that you are using it to take my picture.

Are there actually any laws on the books about taking aerial pictures of an area? This kind of law is essentially government sponsored vandalism and it would never survive any court challenge.

Just to mess with people I would love to get one of those licenses and then shoot up any security cameras at the town hall on the premise that they are "essentially" the same thing as a surveillance drone.

I hope your right.

But I also hope they are dumb enough to push this through anyway. My guess is that conventional firearms can't reach these drones which calls for a new arms race and hopefully the creation of drone-hunting drones. Fun times!

I think drones are merely a symptom of a bigger problem. What I think a lot of people are really rebelling against is the replacement of the rule of law of a Republic with the mob rule mentality of a Democracy. When you have a government which does not represent the interests or wishes of the people and which lacks accountability for wrongdoing then you have a serious problem.

Just look at what has been happening lately not only with the judicial system where people are no longer presumed innocent until proven guilty so long as the mob (along with a healthy dose of help from Media which edits 911 calls and a DOJ which organizes protests and puts pressure on a municipality to press charges which don't meet criteria, etc) says so. Or a government which will go out of its way to try and capture an American citizen whistle blower than they do trying to hunt down terrorists who stage attacks which are aimed at murdering innocent civilians. They will attempt to bully and pressure countries around the world over someone who exposed their wrongdoing. The outrage seen by our allies was real, but it's been widely retracted through coercion.

It feels a bit strange to be saying this but take a hard look around, and if you think I am just spouting BS take a minute to look up a lot of these facts they are research-able. I have to admit that I used to be a good little drone and didn't bother thinking for myself because I actually felt that big brother was watching over me and that anyone who questioned "the plan" was a traitor. Obviously at some point my brain turned on and I came to realize that everything I took for granted was a lie, and that those we elect to represent us by and large with rare exception do not represent us they represent party or ideology.

Lincoln said "No man is good enough to govern another man without the other's consent."

This is a time when more and more people do not consent to ever increasing taxes and government overreach. When the dollar does not stretch nearly as far as it used to and when gasoline is $4 or more a gallon and pay raises / cost of living increases are a distant memory do you really want to see more of your money taken to support an ever more oppressive and top heavy beast that is only going to demand more? What happens when you have no more to give? or when you have to make a choice between food and paying the beast so that the IRS wont penalize you for not being able to afford the ever increasing cost of health insurance. (Which the beast claimed that the exact opposite would happen)

The United States Federal Government was NEVER supposed to be able to tell us what kind of light bulbs to put in our houses or that we cannot buy large soft drinks, or what we eat or how we live. It was never intended to do anything of the sort and yet here we have a quote unquote "amendment" to the anti-propaganda law which now will allow the STATE to provide "News"

Soviet Russia, Communist North Korea and Nazi Germany fed their masses propaganda.

Welcome to the People's Democratic Republic of America.

Of course they should be frightened.

"But I don't feel like a victim." - Talia Winters, Babylon 5.

some drones are heavily armed... i wonder if those drones would be allowed to retaliate....

Unless their hunting gear includes FlaKs, how the fuck are they going to shoot them down?

AC10:
Don't drones fly at like 5,000 feet? How would you even shoot one down?

actually something like the predator drone has a service ceiling of around 25,000ft. its a token law at best but i can see some kids model plane being shot down or a stray shot injuring or killing someone

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