Microsoft Can Be Trusted With Privacy, Says Departing CEO

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This is the funniest thing I've read all day.

If Ballmer were laying it on any thicker, he'd be driving a manure spreader.

Fox12:
The mere fact that this power exists means that someone WILL abuse it eventually, in some capacity, somewhere. And if the government did use connect to spy on people, and I'm sure they'd love to, I doubt we'd know about it until it was too late. I find the mere fact that we have to have this discussion disturbing.

As long as the camera can be turned off I can see major problems being avoided, but the idea that the federal government can spy on people in any capacity is disturbing.

Same argument can be made about every laptop that has integrated camera, which is every laptop. And then we can extend it to phones (mine has two cameras front and back, though the front one i never use).

RandV80:
Really the only positive thing you can say about Microsoft here is that unlike Google ad-revenue isn't their main source of income. They're still a big corporation though and revenue is profits for the shareholders, that's the only thing you can count on really.

advertisement on XBL has been a very nice revenue stream for them, so dont put that behind them.

Strazdas:

Fox12:
The mere fact that this power exists means that someone WILL abuse it eventually, in some capacity, somewhere. And if the government did use connect to spy on people, and I'm sure they'd love to, I doubt we'd know about it until it was too late. I find the mere fact that we have to have this discussion disturbing.

As long as the camera can be turned off I can see major problems being avoided, but the idea that the federal government can spy on people in any capacity is disturbing.

Same argument can be made about every laptop that has integrated camera, which is every laptop. And then we can extend it to phones (mine has two cameras front and back, though the front one i never use).

Both of which have been hacked in the past. Phones can be used to spy on their owner, and can also be used to listen in on their owner unawares. What I'm saying is that I'm against the use of modern conveniences to spy on their owners, especially i a day and age when the government doesn't need any over site. Hacker groups have also proven themselves up to the task. Just because other devices are in the wrong doesn't mean the Xbox is excused. They're all in the wrong.

But all that aside, we all know they'd love to use the device for ad purposes.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Well Google spies on emails for advertising purposes and no one bitches about that. All companies and most websites spy on the users. Its to late to change anything anymore.

Fox12:

Both of which have been hacked in the past. Phones can be used to spy on their owner, and can also be used to listen in on their owner unawares. What I'm saying is that I'm against the use of modern conveniences to spy on their owners, especially i a day and age when the government doesn't need any over site. Hacker groups have also proven themselves up to the task. Just because other devices are in the wrong doesn't mean the Xbox is excused. They're all in the wrong.

But all that aside, we all know they'd love to use the device for ad purposes.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Yeah, the point was is that your still going to be using such devices. Kinect is not magically much worse just because it can be hacked into because every device now can. i agree that it is bad that they get hacked into it but that does not mean we should remove cameras and microphones from them. in fact that would kinda make phones pointless as you couldnt talk to others.

nickpy:

Zipa:

nickpy:

That's not actually true - BOTH space programs used pencils initially, and then switched to special space-pens (in the case of NASA) and ordinary ball-points (in the case of whatever russia's space agency was called). They switched from pencils because trying to sharpen them with the little bits of wood floating off and getting stuck in things, plus the carbon in the pencil lead is conductive so you certainly don't want it anywhere near a control panel....

Yes, basically, pencils are actually a terrible idea in space. The real stupidity of NASA is that they developed special space-pens that were pressurised and so on in order to work correctly in space, entirely unnecessarily... normal ball-points actually work better in space than on earth in that they work any way up in space.

Cool, the more you know I guess. I just assumed that they would use a new pencil instead of sharpening them because of the floating issue.

Then you'd need an inordinate quantity of pencils, and cost was measured in millions of dollars per kilo. Plus, even if you never sharpen them, the leads can and do break off accidentally, which brings us back to the conductive material floating + electrical control panel scenario.

Interestingly enough, pencils use a carbon silicate nowadays, which happens to be nonconductive. Before it was graphite, which is also a nonconductive carbon, and before that, it was actual lead. But that isn't the point ;>
Not to mention those nifty mechanical pencils that folks have been using since the mid 1980s.

OT.
Yup, that's why I have automatic updating turned off, yet I get yelled at by my Windows 7 constantly to download and install them constantly.
If Mr. Ballmer was not leaving, then I might take those words at face value, of course those are words given to the board of shareholders, not the public.
Microsoft has done much in the past 13 years, under Mr. Ballmer's time as CEO, I will not bother holding my breath waiting for people to tell me what good has been done.

AW-HAW-HAW-HAW!

HAW-HAW...haw...haw...

Oh my God.

Steve actually meant that, didn't he?

Lemme get a lungful of air and keep laughing.

They promised me Internet Explorer was gonna be efficient...
They lied...

Objectable:
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That's right gamers! I'm trustworthy!
You should make a contract with me, to get a brand new game system!
All it takes is a wish!

XD!!!

How utterly fitting Kyubii get referenced, cause that's exactly how all this sounds, which should be a big, glowing red flag for everyone.

BigTuk:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait... wutr.. they're serious?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

When i read this all i could think about is the warlock laughing at the rogue when he said "rogues have it pretty tough" in world of roguecraft.

But it was also my exact reaction as well

008Zulu:
Who was it again that gave the NSA all the backdoor encryption keys to Windows? Oh that's right, it was Microsoft.

Well, to be fair, they were kinda legally forced to.

Oh and they got together with Google and tried to sue the shit out of the NSA for damage caused by the agency in terms of goodwill and public perception.

There's a long list of unfortunate companies; Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, Google again - that NSA has forced information out of.

This whole problem is way more multifaceted than the Internet makes it out to be.

Steve Ballmer:
Across our industry there are some [who] seem rather bent on trying to use every single piece of personal information they can get so they can target you with more ads.

If the service I'm using from that company is free, and thus generates its revenue from ads, then I'm actually fine with my data being used to target more relevant ads at me. It at least means I'm going to get adverts for games, or PC based things, rather than tampons. Microsofts consumer email services are free. They don't run them out of the goodness of their heart, they have ads there supporting the services. Don't take your frustration about your lack of adoption of your products on the company that's simply outdoing you in the market place to potential customers (advertisers). If you want to put your money where your mouth is, then make Outlook/Hotmail a paid-for service, give me functionality to put it through a VPN and give me a salted Blowfish encryption on all my stuff in the account.

You won't do it though, because the NSA has you over a barrel. And you're actually kind of okay being in that place.

For the record, Windows 8.1 is the best OS, performance wise, Microsoft have ever released. I know the bandwagon hate for Windows 8 is still going strong, but that's just me.

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