Angry Cat Traps Family In Bedroom, Forces 911 Call

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Everyone knows that cats make mincemeat out of level 1 commoners like these Palmers. They're lucky to be alive!

immortalfrieza:

lord canti:
yeahhh no, I've known plenty of cats who have been raised since kittens and I know for a fact are treated well that act like dicks to people with no provocation what so ever.

Pickapok:
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Wrong, you just don't know the reason they are doing this and don't care to find out.

Yes quite clearly I know nothing about the cats I've raised since birth.

lord canti:

Yes quite clearly I know nothing about the cats I've raised since birth.

Obviously so, since if you did you'd know they never do anything without cause.

immortalfrieza:

lord canti:

Yes quite clearly I know nothing about the cats I've raised since birth.

Obviously so, since if you did you'd know they never do anything without cause.

It couldn't simply be that some cats are born a lot more aggressive than others.

You know what you do with a feral cat? Get a blanket, throw it over it and stomp it till you see the red koolaid.

There's a limit to how dependant you can be. When you are literally crapping your pants over a house cat to the point where you call law enforcement, you crossed the line.

immortalfrieza:

*snip*

Basically what you're saying is that animals always have a reason (that includes but is not limited to hurting or provoking it, such as smelling a certain way or even gender). Things can set off a cat that we percieve as not being a valid reason, however, it doesn't legitimize bad behaviour which animals, including cats, are capable of.

immortalfrieza:
Animals have never done anything to anyone that those people didn't bring about. They are merely following their instincts and if their instincts tell them you are a threat you are going to get attacked.

What a crock of shit, not to mention impossible to prove.

lord canti:
It couldn't simply be that some cats are born a lot more aggressive than others.

Cats are born to either be more or less aggressive, but they would have to be specifically bred of several generations to be as aggressive as possible before their aggressiveness would be caused by that alone. There is always something which the owners do or don't do that causes aggressiveness. It can be any number of things, and many are very subtle, but it is always the fault of the owner if a cat is aggressive.

Smilomaniac:
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Any vet or animal behaviorist will tell you the exact same thing. An aggressive animal is merely reacting to something as their instincts dictate, it is not doing what it is doing out of deliberate purposeful malice like a human being might. Animals do not possess the intelligence necessary to be able to do that. People have spent decades or even centuries professionally trying to understand why animals do what they do, and their conclusion has always come to this.

immortalfrieza:

lord canti:

Yes quite clearly I know nothing about the cats I've raised since birth.

Obviously so, since if you did you'd know they never do anything without cause.

animals can have different characters, got two cats one sleeps all the time and does literally noting, the other constantly runs, jumps and eats our tv and computer cables, he doesn't play with toys and doesn't even want to look at any rubber replacements he just wants to chew those f***ing cables, I believe the cause here must be some cable trauma? or perhaps some kind of deficiency that can only be fulfilled by consuming electronic equipment? Seriously though chewing cables is his thing and his tendency to be very active must have been inherited... it's that simple really.

james.sponge:
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Maybe he just likes the taste of cables? Whatever it is, that's rather simple to fix, get some bitter apple on the cables or put them in plastic tubing or both. The former will ensure that it tastes bad and the latter will ensure that he'll have a hard time getting to the cables to chew them to begin with.

RealRT:
Okay, I know these bastards can be a bitch to deal with with all the biting and scratching and whatnot... but come the fuck on, it's a fucking housecat. I mean, there were two adult people and they were too afraid to deal with a fucking housecat?

Thank you for saying it before I had to. If you're afraid of something that's a fraction of your size there's a problem. I understand not wanting to get clawed; so wear a long shirt/sweater/jacket/etc and some gloves then get ahold of the beast and let it wear itself out. It's cool that they protected their infant, but for a grown human to be afraid of a housecat is silly. At the same time 22 pounds for a housecat sounds either very fat or just a behemoth of its species.

Directed at those who are saying essentially "it's just a house cat" you obviously have not seen how freaking berserk a cat can get.

Their claws and teeth are very sharp and they can do real damage. Years ago there was a stray cat that we were trying to help. We'd been taking care of it for a few days and it seemed to be warming up to us. It suddenly went crazy when it heard a loud noise, and freaked the hell out on my mom who was nearest to him. He let out some horrible unholy screech and lunged at my mother, and jumped at her and wrapped itself around her leg with all claws and teeth buried into her flesh. She cried out in agony as the blood OOZED out in thick flows as my brother and I tried to get it to let go. Finally, grabbing at the scruff of it's neck while my brother got enough of it's claws out that it finally let go and ran off. We eventually opened all the doors and windows and waited for it to find it's own way out while we had to sterilize and bandage my mom's wounds. You would not believe how much blood there was.

I've been around pets and especially cats all my life. We lived out in the country and many of them happened to find their way there over the years and we adopted some and simply cared for some while homes were found for them. I've seen angry cats, I've seen scared cats, I've seen anti social cats. It's rare for them to use their teeth in self defense. In fact I've never seen another cat actually attack with them, at most just warning nips. Many cats are very emotional creatures. If they feel threatened or angry they can inflict nasty wounds - especially when you're not willing to use lethal force to stop them. That's really the key point. They are really fast and ferocious when they feel the survival instinct kick in.

A cat CAN mess you up good. They have the tools to do it. They are predators after all.

BigTuk:
Lady is probably seriously regretting her choice of mate. Dude... your balls.. surrender them.. now, your man license has been revoked. You are at least 5 times the size and weight of the cat, you have a brain and the ability to use tools... and you let it win....

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be harsh but.. you're officially downgraded to 'boy' now. A dog is one thing. I mean there are breeds that you would be well advised to put an oak door between yourself and them... heck even a wild cat...those can have rabies or all sorts of crap. But a house cat.. seriously, Dude likely couldn't look the animal control guys in the face after that.

To sum up.

The dude was was sent into hiding by what amounts to Garfield..

Never saw what a serious catbite can do to a human do you?

Getting bitten by a cat would be the same as getting bitten deeply by a sewer rat and can have severe consequences if the wound isnt imidiantly cleaned.

Do not underestimate the destructive force and ferocity of a common housecat also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zATogM8p3FM

Even the other cat is like "dude... take a chillpill.." but black and white wont have none of that! Time to teach a "bitch" (from the cats perspective) how they play in that household... nobody breaks some glass while kitty is on the watch! XD

(on the other hand ofcourse youre right... all he would have needed to do was grab a blanket or something and catch the cat in it... what a coward... or should i say.... scaredy cat?)

Karadalis:

BigTuk:
Lady is probably seriously regretting her choice of mate. Dude... your balls.. surrender them.. now, your man license has been revoked. You are at least 5 times the size and weight of the cat, you have a brain and the ability to use tools... and you let it win....

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be harsh but.. you're officially downgraded to 'boy' now. A dog is one thing. I mean there are breeds that you would be well advised to put an oak door between yourself and them... heck even a wild cat...those can have rabies or all sorts of crap. But a house cat.. seriously, Dude likely couldn't look the animal control guys in the face after that.

To sum up.

The dude was was sent into hiding by what amounts to Garfield..

Never saw what a serious catbite can do to a human do you?

Getting bitten by a cat would be the same as getting bitten deeply by a sewer rat and can have severe consequences if the wound isnt imidiantly cleaned.

Do not underestimate the destructive force and ferocity of a common housecat also:

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See I'm not saying cats are harmless, I'm saying, fight the cat... you'll have scars but you can always lie and tell your buddies the story of you vs the wild cat, feral cat, racoon, etc... now this guy's friends will know him as 'dude that got whupped by garfield'. I mean worse.. this happened infront of his wife... I mean.. Manly pride dictates you never retreat from anything less than a a rottweiler in front of your woman., It's On Page 4 of the 'Man Book'.

You know there are tribes in africa where to this day the manhood ritual involes hunting and killing a lion...with a spear. These days the hunts are in groups of ten or more but it's not ganging up... after centuries of insane mano y leo fights.. surprisingly there just aren't enough lions to go around so they have to share. Think about that.. then read this story again. Those dudes run towards lions.. this guy ran away from a house cat. Manhood: REVOKED

So Sarge wasn't joking...

"And that cat was one of our finest military minds!"

BigTuk:

See I'm not saying cats are harmless, I'm saying, fight the cat... you'll have scars but you can always lie and tell your buddies the story of you vs the wild cat, feral cat, racoon, etc... now this guy's friends will know him as 'dude that got whupped by garfield'. I mean worse.. this happened infront of his wife... I mean.. Manly pride dictates you never retreat from anything less than a a rottweiler in front of your woman., It's On Page 4 of the 'Man Book'.

You know there are tribes in africa where to this day the manhood ritual involes hunting and killing a lion...with a spear. These days the hunts are in groups of ten or more but it's not ganging up... after centuries of insane mano y leo fights.. surprisingly there just aren't enough lions to go around so they have to share. Think about that.. then read this story again. Those dudes run towards lions.. this guy ran away from a house cat. Manhood: REVOKED

Good thing this isnt tumblr or we would be in all kinds of social justice warrior trouble now about how sexist we are and how we are enforcing gender stereotypes XD

I could understand if the cat catched them "offguard" like dude and his wife are in their PJs or something and they where driven off into a room where blankets or the like are not avaiable... or the cat seemed to be diseased... i would also think twice of facing a diseased cat...

But being locked into a room because of a pissy cat should not happen to a SMART person... doesnt even need to be "manly"... you just have to be smart enough... there are more then enough ways to shoo off an agressive cat.. ranging from spritzbottles for the easaly impressed to parasols opening and closing.. or a vaccum cleaner... something is allways around to distract and/or impress the cat enough to control the situation.

That you should call professionals from the local animal shelter once you locked up the cat (and not vice versa) should also be a given.. the notion of keeping the cat when it showed hightened agression especialy around the baby does not bode well for the future.

Also while i do not advocate hitting animals some of the people make it seem that physical "punishment" is the most evil thing you can do to an animal.

Im sorry but thats not ENTIRELY true... have you seen how housecats treat each other? If one cat pisses the other of she or he will get five across the face... he will get slapped and quite viciously in some cases. So a little bop on the head or a shove with the foot is not animal abuse in my book. Remember a kick can mean anything from kicking a football over the goal or just giving the cat a quick shove to get it away from the baby, and the later really isnt traumatizing.

So aslong as its not strong enough to physically harm the cat or something you do everyday such physical interaction is well in the reportoire of natural behavior amongst cats. (ofcourse using enough physical force to cause actuall harm IS animal abuse of the highest degree and should be punished)

Anyways... keeping a cat that cant get along with a baby while you have a baby? Sorry but youre not doing anyone here a favour.. not yourselfe, not your baby and not the cat... its better to give the cat away to the local animal shelter because the cat will be in constant stress in your home and scenes like that WILL repeat itselfe.

omega 616:

snekadid:

omega 616:
kicking a cat is wrong and probably kind of deserved a bit of a reaction but locked in a fucking bedroom!?

A dog can be a huge snarling beast that can literally kill you, an over weight cat will scratch the shit out of you but I wouldn't back down from it.

Haven't seen too many cat attack videos I take it? A pissed cat is way faster than us and can jump over 6 feet high. They can easily tear your jugular or rip out your eyes before you can respond if you treat them lightly.

No, just no. With the obvious exception of big cats (tigers), cats aren't a threat ... they are snooty pricks that claw the fuck out of you but tear your jugular? Not happening.

If you don't want to hurt a cat and it's going off then it ca rip you up but unless it's death by thousand cuts, you'll be fine.

I take it you don't have a cat that's +20lbs.

As an owner of a 20lb cat, I can say that while you could probably fight one off, you would get more than just scratches (especially if those pounds were mostly muscle). Claws and teeth can go very deep and if the cat decides to attack your face, I would not be surprised if you lost an eye or an ear. My cat was once attacked by some sort of animal and received large wounds on his upper body. Now, normally he's very sweet and cuddly but when he feels threatened he enters what his cat-doctor professionally refers to as "Killer-Mode". When we took him to get medical attention, he fought the vet so much that it sounded like something out of a cartoon (lots of howling and banging instruments in the operating room). Even in his injured state, two grown men with protective gear couldn't hold him down and they had to sedate him just to get him on the table to examine him.

If two men with protective gear can't handle an injured 20 lb cat, I doubt a single man would be able to subdue a 22lb cat with just his bare hands.

Cats, both wild and domestic, are notorious for being far more powerful than they look (Bobcats, for instance, often hunt prey 8 times their size). Don't underestimate a large, pissed off cat.

Now, letting it lock you in the bedroom is an entirely different manner...

I've been scratched and bitten up by cats before, and while it can definitely hurt and bleed, it's really not anything that bad if you don't get catscratch fever. Even then, they were locked in a bedroom, don't they have any heavy clothes or a coat in there they could have put on to protect themselves?

Okay I'm against animal cruelty and all but I will not hesitate to punt kick a damn cat if it comes at me. If it's that much of a problem cage the tiger, people. Or get a nicer cat?

immortalfrieza:

Smilomaniac:
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Any vet or animal behaviorist will tell you the exact same thing. An aggressive animal is merely reacting to something as their instincts dictate, it is not doing what it is doing out of deliberate purposeful malice like a human being might. Animals do not possess the intelligence necessary to be able to do that. People have spent decades or even centuries professionally trying to understand why animals do what they do, and their conclusion has always come to this.

I'm a veterinary technician. Usually aggression is a response to some kind of adverse situation/person, relating to instinct (hunting/chasing, herding, protection, etc), or a misunderstanding of boundaries (like with rough play), but here's the first thing they'll teach you in ANY animal career: Animals are unpredictable. You don't know what they're thinking, you don't know if you accidentally trigger something, and you can't always tell if it's something relating to personality. Even if there is some random unknown stimulus that triggers a negative reaction in an animal, it's not something that can be easily understood or defended. They can't tell us what's making them upset (and training requires to find out what that problem is in order to fix it). It's hard to prove a cat or dog attacks someone out of the blue because "they don't like the way they normally smell". Definitely people should look on the grander scale before resorting to "this animal is a dick because I didn't do anything", but to say that there always has to be abuse or a fault of the owner isn't true. Working for centuries or not, there's still a lot we don't know about how animals think (hell, even humans are a mystery in some ways) and there are plenty of times where rehoming, a professional trainer, or drug therapy can't even help.

Though I will say in response to another post that yes, behaviour often has a basis in genetics as well as upbringing. You don't need to specifically breed something for generations to find a behavioural issue pop up that has a genetic link (like with various human mental conditions). That's why if you're going to breed animals, you always make sure mother and father are mentally stable (brownie points for ensuring the lineage is also stable).

In this thread: People who have obviously never cared for an animal on their own.

OT: It's just a house cat. Yes, they can scratch and bite the fuck out of you, but you won't get injured, at least not without being extremely unlucky. Besides, if it's hostile to you, chances are you deserve it.

Revoke this guys man card if he can't handle a cat.

That's kind of sad.

If you ever kick a cat, of course it's going to be MAD. Cat's usually don't take crap from anyone, even beloved owners they've known for years. Even my cat whom I love to death can be grumpy sometimes but you just give them their space. The father could of thrown a blanket over the cat and placed it into another room till it calmed down.

Not sure how to feel. It's a tad bit funny, but mostly sad overall.

This is learned behavior. Violent people create violent pets. I don't even want to know what else is likely going on in that household if the cat is so temperamental.

The guy is a coward. Big man kicks the cat and then hides in the bedroom like a pathetic coward. Hopefully he has learned not to kick cats and other animals because that stuff tends to make them angry.

Barbas:

Tanis:
This is going to end up being the go to 'get your cat declawed' story for the next few years.

I don't know why people don't just clip the nails shorter instead. People would probably answer by saying "the cat would likely go straight for your eyes if you tried", but they're not all mad. They don't all hate water and they don't all scratch people's knees off. Surely people can get them used to being handled or groomed early on so that lacerations and veterinary casualties don't become a reality.

my little one is docile as anything, and just doesn't care. the biggest difficulty trimming her claws is getting her to stay still because she'll assume its time for a fuss or play, and start rolling around.

the big cat is a lot more aggressive in general and hates it, so when its time for a trim we'll do one or two claws every day, and be done by the end of the week. we just make sure we don't do too much to really piss him off. it really doesn't require much effort on the part of the owner most of the time.

still, it's unlikely that the cat did it for no reason. i'll admit some of them cat be more vicious than others, it's usually based around stress or unhappiness in their living environment, most of which the owners are completely unaware of so the cat is clearly 'doing it for no reason'

Yeah, don't kick cats. Or dogs, or any other animals. Especially those that have a history of aggressive behaviour.

Second, if you're in the bedroom, that's probably where your clothes are, and your bed. Pull on a couple of long-sleeve shirts, grab a blanket and nut up, buttercup. You started this fight, now you get to finish it.

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats

dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

snekadid:
Haven't seen too many cat attack videos I take it? A pissed cat is way faster than us and can jump over 6 feet high. They can easily tear your jugular or rip out your eyes before you can respond if you treat them lightly.

Or they can enact their vengeance with cold blood.
One of my grandmothers neighbors got killed by her cat in her sleep, just because she forgot to feed the bastard.

There is probably nothing more dangerous than a pissed off cat, and they can hold a grudge.

Just gonna say this before going to bed: Wrap yourself in a blanket and charge the cat... They were in the bedroom after all, they had the weapons needed! Bundle up in clothing and wrap a big blanket around you and charge the little guy, you'll be pretty well armored!

Spaceman Spiff:
I clicked the link thinking it would be a somewhat wild cat like a lynx or ocelot. Somebody seriously called 911 over a pissy house cat? I suppose it's a little on the large side, but it's still just a house cat.

My philosophy on pets is 'Never keep an animal that you can't beat in a fist fight'.

That's a great philosophy that to have in life. Also, hello fellow Calvin & Hobbes fan! XD Ah, Tracer Bullet and Stupendous Man.

Huh, why are people so quick to claim its a learned behavior(aggressive cat). Have they never seen a cat freak the fuck out for no reason? My old cat max, loved on from a kitten never hit or poked or bothered, very sweet cat. One day its on the porch in its chair i pet it and it rolls over purrs etc. I walk away after about 30 ft he just takes off after me hissing and yowling, just mauling my leg I toss him off he keeps coming, I grab him off and toss him off the porch he sprints right back so I kick him off the porch and hop inside the house. He cut me so bad blood was leaking through my jeans in multiple places.

But thats what some cats do for some reason just spazz out. Animals are wild and unpredictable, not always the owners fault.

dyre:
Everyone knows that cats make mincemeat out of level 1 commoners like these Palmers. They're lucky to be alive!

Indeed. A commoner has to be level 4 before one can don the long-sleeved shirt and work gloves of scratch-resistance. This guy apparently needed to grind xp with grip-ball exercises before he could handle a fearsome housecat.

...I remember when I lived in that city, the damn things would come in through the dog door. My old uniform tops and leather gloves made me an invincible juggernaut to them. Struggle all they like, they were being gently placed on the front lawn.

I think most cat owners could benefit from being taught "scruffing" for disciplinary purposes. Never kick a cat, but do grab it gently by the scruff of the neck and bear it into the ground... again gently, and only until it stops struggling. Cats are tiny and fragile.

JamesBr:
22 POUNDS!!! What have they been feeding that thing? It's nearly twice the average weight of a cat that breed.

Steroids, that's why it went off, it had roid rage.

OT: I want to say something, but my mind is a blank. [Insert joke/remark about how the guy sounded stoned here]

immortalfrieza:

lord canti:
yeahhh no, I've known plenty of cats who have been raised since kittens and I know for a fact are treated well that act like dicks to people with no provocation what so ever.

Pickapok:
Snip

Wrong, you just don't know the reason they are doing this and don't care to find out.

Saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

If you know the magical answer to why my entirely untraumatized dog suddenly began freaking out at age 4 upon encountering long and thin objects, like a fireplace poker, to the point of nipping nearby people, please tell me. And then explain why he very suddenly stopped caring again a year later.

I'm going with "Animals have brains too, which can get their neurons crossed and cause unpredictable behaviour". Like any other realist.

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