Guys That Play Girls In Games. Why?

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A few reasons for different games:

One: Fighting games: Girl characters are often faster and have easier to learn combos. I prefer that because I suck at games so I'd prefer to pull of ten low damage hits as compared to one big one.
Two: PvP and Matt Wiggins logic for RPGs (though I rarely play females). If I'm lookin' at an ass all day, might as well be a good one.
Three: Halo series, the girl's dying noise makes me laugh.

Lucane:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Very rarely see women play as men when they have the choice though...

Maybe it's do to the fact so many games force you to be a guy (less often a lady) so they've had plenty of chances to play as men already while an offer to appear more like themselves or at least of the same gender leads them to pick as such.

I do know that the few ladies I know that have played men are quite shocked by the rough camaraderie that we have. How come you're so shit at this?

I usually play just to see the opposite perspective to improve my own. But it's always an afterthought after playing the usual way... and I do it only if there is some value to the game. Otherwise I don't bother.

I do it because many games have male-only protagonists. I like a little change. So sometimes I have a female here, sometimes a crash test dummy, sometimes a Stig, sometimes a fox, I change it up pretty frequently.

Which reminds me...I need to get good in Blender and make a Stig outfit for New Vegas.

Although I typically play through a game as a male first, I occassionally enjoy playing as a female character to help myself disconnect from my character and define my character not by some idealized version of myself, but by whatever I want to. However, I never play as a female character on my initial play-through.

A couple of years ago, this was the only way I could convince myself to do a "dark side" run of Knights of the Old Republic. Every other time, I couldn't bear to make a decision that I didn't approve of by my own morals.

Recently, I used a female character to briefly disconnect myself, and then forge a new personality (for the sake of role playing).

For me, switching genders in a game allows me to stop worrying about keeping my in-game actions consistent with what I would actually do.

Spark Ignition:
Yeah DA was kinda dull as a male human. My most interesting experience in that game was as a female casteless dwarf, make of that what you will. Oh the fun of beating up anyone who made racist, sexist, sizeist or elitist remarks to me....

Female City Elf, but I basically do the same thing.

Gameplay differences (though quite frankly those are few and far between if you get to PICK the character's gender). This is making me wish we had more female protagonists in gaming that aren't overly sexualized, chaste bimbos

I'm confused about all these replies saying "If you're gonna stare at the back of someone for an entire game, might as well be some hot girls ass". Who the hell stares at the back of their character?

I suppose it really depends on the game. In a game like AC Brotherhood I spend a lot of time looking at or near Ezio (and he's bad ass), but in other 3rd person games, for instance Tomb Raider, Uncharted most of the game is spent staring at the centre of the screen, or scanning the environment for the next ledge to hop onto.

What the argument doesn't solve is why guys play girls in first person games. Not that it really matters because you'll never see yourself, but I always find it rather odd playing with my friends when they're playing girl characters with huge boobs and tight asses. Am I supposed to be playing the game or wanking?

I still like playing games like Portal or Mirror's Edge. Even though you know you're a girl, it doesn't really affect anything (especially in Portal, since GlaDOS doesn't try to have a girly talk with you, thank god). Past that there is the huffing puffing noises of Faith in Mirror's Edge, but that's on the same level as listening to a guy shout "HUP!" every time you jump.

Typically I will create a male character in order increase my immersion into the plot. Unfortunately in games like Fallout 3 the male characters are all so hideous I couldn't imagine staring at them for 50+ hours so sometimes ill go for a female character who looks slightly less awful.

Chairman Miaow:
I was just trying to think of a reason why guys so often seem to play women in video games.
My brother plays almost exclusively female characters, and I know he isn't alone. I honestly can't think of single good reason to, for me, all it would do is spoil the immersion as I'm NOT a girl. So, anyone who does play as a woman in games, why? Feel free to speculate even if you don't play a woman, but please try not to just descend into "COz ThEy ARe PerVS LoL!".

TLDR: Why do men play as women?

OK

IF, im playing a videogame is to have fun, ergo, i dont really take the gender thing serious while choosing my Avatar

with this scene placed, imagine i get out of work, where i have being among guys almost all day, im tired, i want to play, and i get online to my favourite MMO, (or whatever other game that lets you choose the gender you are playing without it affecting the actual outcome, just a cosmetic effect to be clear not like fighting games)

what i want is to relax, waste some time and enjoy my self, now, after being among males all day, do i want to spend the next 5 hours looking at the clearly defined ass and muscular back of a chunk of meat being a male avatar (which easily describes all male avatars in several games) or do i want to look at something that apeals to me aestetically as well as phisically and in the gender i find most appealing??

of course i want to look at a girls ass, its not a matter of being lonely, i just want to have fun and not have to stare at some guys interpretation of what a man should look like, but at what i find appealing and stimulating!.

Chairman Miaow:

CrystalShadow:

Chairman Miaow:
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As I have already said in this thread, it's not a matter of playing myself, it's a matter of being able to relate to the character, it's a matter of catharsis. I'm not saying I CAN'T relate to women, I'm just saying I find it easier to relate to the male characters.

You can't relate to women?
You must really suck as boyfreind materiel, unless you're gay I guess. [/joke with bitter grain of truth]

You wanna know the reason, the real reason?

That's all there is to it.

Burck:
Although I typically play through a game as a male first, I occassionally enjoy playing as a female character to help myself disconnect from my character and define my character not by some idealized version of myself, but by whatever I want to. However, I never play as a female character on my initial play-through.

A couple of years ago, this was the only way I could convince myself to do a "dark side" run of Knights of the Old Republic. Every other time, I couldn't bear to make a decision that I didn't approve of by my own morals.

Recently, I used a female character to briefly disconnect myself, and then forge a new personality (for the sake of role playing).

For me, switching genders in a game allows me to stop worrying about keeping my in-game actions consistent with what I would actually do.

Yup this is pretty much exactly how I feel.

Why?
Why not?
I can be a guy every day in real life.

Why not?

steph01a:
I think it's because of the internet - "where men are men, women are men, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus."

I thought the internet was "Where men are men and the women are too and the children are FBI agents."

OT: I dunno, sometimes just to mix up the game dynamic. Sometime the female characters have abilities that the male characters lack. Or sometimes you're playing a game like Portal where you don't have a choice. A lot of times it's just to be contrary and do something different. I admit some time it really is just this

The_root_of_all_evil:

Why don't they? There's the PvP argument:
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Although if it's a platformer or shooter, I usually forget the gender about a quarter of the way through and just concentrate on the game play.

Ranchcroutons:
Typically I will create a male character in order increase my immersion into the plot. Unfortunately in games like Fallout 3 the male characters are all so hideous I couldn't imagine staring at them for 50+ hours so sometimes ill go for a female character who looks slightly less awful.

You play Fallout 3 in 3rd person?

...you're weird :D

Because I don't often get the choice?

Girl in Fallout 3 , girl in Fable 2, girl in Dragon Age, girl in Pokemon...Girl in Mass Effect 1.

Sadly, a male in Mass Effect 2, because my 100% complete Mass Effect 1 data was a male.

If I'm online, I remain a male, to avoid gender confusion. Even if I really want to be a girl in Phantasy Star Portable 2 right now...

Well, if I play a female character, it's because of differing animations, voice acting and dialogue opportunities (since the boy/girl choice is almost always in RPGs usually).

Chairman Miaow:
I was just trying to think of a reason why guys so often seem to play women in video games.
My brother plays almost exclusively female characters, and I know he isn't alone. I honestly can't think of single good reason to, for me, all it would do is spoil the immersion as I'm NOT a girl. So, anyone who does play as a woman in games, why? Feel free to speculate even if you don't play a woman, but please try not to just descend into "COz ThEy ARe PerVS LoL!".

TLDR: Why do men play as women?

EDIT: Women who play as men also feel free to reply as to why you do.

This is not about sexism, I am NOT saying you can't play as a woman, I just want to know why you do.

Because I'm not so close minded as to think "videogame women can't be hot" I'm sorry if I'm the only one who gets a boner when a half naked elf chick walks on screen, but honestly I'm far from the only one, hentai proves that, and seriously, real women have problems, be it as superficial as how they dress or what they look like, or as serious as heavy mental issues or a crazy ass personality. In a game though, the girl can be perfect, and that's what fantasy is about, imagining things that aren't horrible.

I tend to like the character designs and aesthetic of female characters better. I usually joke about how, if I have to stare at an ass for 100 hours, it may as well be an attractive one, but even that is simplifying, and not really accurate.

I find a lot of the gaming industry's trumped-up machismo to be overpowering, and the depiction of males as super-masculine steriod-fueld apes to be ridiculous - in a game like wow - where the sexual dimorphism between male and female avatars is extreme, my preference is usually for the female genders because they more closely resemble an actual human form.

This preference for less charicaturized avatars works both ways though - I'm averse to hyper-feminine, and overly sexualized female characters as well. I don't want to play a woman in short shorts, with a giant rack, an hourglass figure, and legs until tuesday, either. I don't find those characters appealing at all.

So it basically just comes down to my having a preference for the character types that most closeley resemble an actual human being. In games with ultra-macho men, that means looking to a female character, and in games with over-sexualized "male-ideal" women,that means looking back to men. Given the male dominated industry though, and the tendency for game characters to be an expression of a male power fantasy, I tend to select female characters (even if the game's design doesn't lean to ultra-machismo) simply to level the gender bias back out.

I play a feale character in Fallout and Mass Effect, becuase I consider male characters to be clichee and expected in those roles - and taking a female character, building her to look like a normal human being, and placing her in a scenario that was designed for men by men helps to neutralize the inherent gender bias.

Does that make any sense?

Playing a girl helps take the male-dominated gender bias out of the equation?

-m

That is to say, when I play a female character it feels less like an expression of gender?

moretimethansense:

Chairman Miaow:

CrystalShadow:

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As I have already said in this thread, it's not a matter of playing myself, it's a matter of being able to relate to the character, it's a matter of catharsis. I'm not saying I CAN'T relate to women, I'm just saying I find it easier to relate to the male characters.

You can't relate to women?
You must really suck as boyfreind materiel, unless you're gay I guess. [/joke with bitter grain of truth]

You wanna know the reason, the real reason?

That's all there is to it.

I'm not saying I CAN'T relate to women

Because Motoko Kusanagi and Samus Aran, that's why.
Duh.

Things you're not:

- A space marine
- A scientist
- Batman
- An assassin
- A prisoner with a mysterious past whose crimes are not the things he will be remembered for
- James Bond
- A cowboy
- An eastern European gangster
- A *insert Star Wars alien species here* Jedi
- A writer
- A general
- A prince of Persia
- (Not quite) Antonio Banderas at his finest
- A car
- A spaceship captain
- An orc, an elf, a dark elf, and all that jazz
- Beowulf
- Hello Kitty
- That guy on Lost who never showed up on TV but was so important they made a game about him
- A superhero
- A film director
- Captain of the Enterprise

None of these things ruin the immersion for you if you are set as them or choose to play as them, yet being a woman does?

Maybe they just like to stare at a fake woman's arse and not a fake man's one.

blakfayt:

Chairman Miaow:
I was just trying to think of a reason why guys so often seem to play women in video games.
My brother plays almost exclusively female characters, and I know he isn't alone. I honestly can't think of single good reason to, for me, all it would do is spoil the immersion as I'm NOT a girl. So, anyone who does play as a woman in games, why? Feel free to speculate even if you don't play a woman, but please try not to just descend into "COz ThEy ARe PerVS LoL!".

TLDR: Why do men play as women?

EDIT: Women who play as men also feel free to reply as to why you do.

This is not about sexism, I am NOT saying you can't play as a woman, I just want to know why you do.

Because I'm not so close minded as to think "videogame women can't be hot" I'm sorry if I'm the only one who gets a boner when a half naked elf chick walks on screen, but honestly I'm far from the only one, hentai proves that, and seriously, real women have problems, be it as superficial as how they dress or what they look like, or as serious as heavy mental issues or a crazy ass personality. In a game though, the girl can be perfect, and that's what fantasy is about, imagining things that aren't horrible.

.... you do know you're a bad person, yeah?

ok thast sounds overly harsh..

What I meant to say was:

You have problems, kid.

i play as both, mainly because in the MMO i play different sexes/classes have different abilities/animations/options so i use them for the variety. if i went for all male characters it would bet a bit dull with them all being able to do exactly the same thing

I play a girl in DDO becuase all the male character models are fucking ugly.
I play as FemShep in Mass Effect because the voice acting is better.
and also occasionally in other games just to mix it up, and in RPGs I also enjoy modeling PCs after characters from my favorite stories, who are on occasion female. Some people see it as a big deal and think that you should only play as characters from your own gender, but I don't see why it matters.

#1; Games are a means of escapism. I'm a man, therefore playing as a girl would heighten the escapism. Heightened escapism for me usually means more fun.

#2; I usually tend to enjoy female voice actors more than the male ones. So if my character speaks, I look at it as a plus.

#3; Then there is a little part of me that would like to know what I would be like if I were a woman. But seeing as I also like being a man, going transsexual would be bad way to go. So at least video games can at least give me a part of that dream.
Sure, it's nothing like the real thing. But it's the best I can currently do.

#4; And to top it all off, I sometimes enjoy nude mods... Not gonna sugar code it. That's just the way it is, and that isn't going to change just yet. However it might when I get older/ more mature.

Edit; I also forgot one thing. Female models in RPGs usually look like they're better for class "X", and vice versa.

Chairman Miaow:
I was just trying to think of a reason why guys so often seem to play women in video games.
My brother plays almost exclusively female characters, and I know he isn't alone. I honestly can't think of single good reason to, for me, all it would do is spoil the immersion as I'm NOT a girl. So, anyone who does play as a woman in games, why? Feel free to speculate even if you don't play a woman, but please try not to just descend into "COz ThEy ARe PerVS LoL!".

TLDR: Why do men play as women?

EDIT: Women who play as men also feel free to reply as to why you do.

This is not about sexism, I am NOT saying you can't play as a woman, I just want to know why you do.

I'm gonna use a quote from a really old WoW video

"If you're going to be staring at a screen all day would you rather be staring at hot ass or man-clevage?"

Chairman Miaow:
I was just trying to think of a reason why guys so often seem to play women in video games.
My brother plays almost exclusively female characters, and I know he isn't alone. I honestly can't think of single good reason to, for me, all it would do is spoil the immersion as I'm NOT a girl. So, anyone who does play as a woman in games, why? Feel free to speculate even if you don't play a woman, but please try not to just descend into "COz ThEy ARe PerVS LoL!".

TLDR: Why do men play as women?

EDIT: Women who play as men also feel free to reply as to why you do.

This is not about sexism, I am NOT saying you can't play as a woman, I just want to know why you do.

Given a choice I pretty much always choose a female character. I guess I can't speak for everyone but it's pretty clear that for me the desire to have (as in a guy wanting a girl) somewhere along the lines gets turned into the desire to be.

So yeah, I play to try and become. Kinda weird I guess, but I think it's more common than we might think and not necessarily a perverse thing.

Chairman Miaow:

moretimethansense:

Chairman Miaow:

As I have already said in this thread, it's not a matter of playing myself, it's a matter of being able to relate to the character, it's a matter of catharsis. I'm not saying I CAN'T relate to women, I'm just saying I find it easier to relate to the male characters.

You can't relate to women?
You must really suck as boyfreind materiel, unless you're gay I guess. [/joke with bitter grain of truth]

You wanna know the reason, the real reason?

That's all there is to it.

I'm not saying I CAN'T relate to women

Ah, sorry I misread it, my point still stands however.

When we play as female characters we do so because we feel like it, anything else is merely justification, justification might I add that we don't need.
Unless it's for completionism, that's one reason that isn't just people trying to defend their choice.

Spark Ignition:

Ranchcroutons:
Typically I will create a male character in order increase my immersion into the plot. Unfortunately in games like Fallout 3 the male characters are all so hideous I couldn't imagine staring at them for 50+ hours so sometimes ill go for a female character who looks slightly less awful.

You play Fallout 3 in 3rd person?

...you're weird :D

Well that's the funny thing, I do play in first person. The reason I care is that I feel like everyone in the game will judge me as being ugly which obviously they cannot do.

Ranchcroutons:

Spark Ignition:

Ranchcroutons:
Typically I will create a male character in order increase my immersion into the plot. Unfortunately in games like Fallout 3 the male characters are all so hideous I couldn't imagine staring at them for 50+ hours so sometimes ill go for a female character who looks slightly less awful.

You play Fallout 3 in 3rd person?

...you're weird :D

Well that's the funny thing, I do play in first person. The reason I care is that I feel like everyone in the game will judge me as being ugly which obviously they cannot do.

That's immersion for ya!

George Mooney:
I'm confused about all these replies saying "If you're gonna stare at the back of someone for an entire game, might as well be some hot girls ass". Who the hell stares at the back of their character?

all the people that just stated what you are countering stare at the back of their character, and kind of closed minded to think "NO ONE REALLY DOES IT".

What the argument doesn't solve is why guys play girls in first person games. Not that it really matters because you'll never see yourself, but I always find it rather odd playing with my friends when they're playing girl characters with huge boobs and tight asses. Am I supposed to be playing the game or wanking?

It was never stated which kind of game we are supposed to play, it just stated why we played as females, most of the time, we do it for the statement already posted which you furiously shot down, in first person games is the same idea or concept forget about "look" and think more in the line of "heck i want to be a girl because im tired of males" this is true for me, i wouldnt know about all the other guys.

I still like playing games like Portal or Mirror's Edge. Even though you know you're a girl, it doesn't really affect anything (especially in Portal, since GlaDOS doesn't try to have a girly talk with you, thank god). Past that there is the huffing puffing noises of Faith in Mirror's Edge, but that's on the same level as listening to a guy shout "HUP!" every time you jump.

well... you are obviously overly critical of ones avatar, you dont mind when they dont have "girl talk" but what if they did?? a game is an experience to do something you dont normally do, if you are thinking "this people might have homosexual tendencies" because we enjoy getting out of rol, then i can assure you you are wrong and if you notice the "huffs" and "puffs" are from a female voice you are over thinking it

i know you never stated anything about homosexuality or nothing particularly points to you thinking that, but after reading your post thats what i sensed you feel, forget it if im wrong, but understand that most of us actually dont care gender, and as such we choose whatever we want to be for the duration of the game, female-male-mage-fighter it all comes down on what one wants to interpret while playing.

but you ARE over thinking it if you notice when your character makes a female noise.

It's been said before...variety.

Not just in the fact that the story may change while playing a female protagonist as opposed to a male one, but also in the fact sometimes gamePLAY may differ as well. Consider Fable III, where the various clothing/makeup/tattoo/facial hair equips can have different effects on your character's appearance in regards to others depending on your gender. Or even Dragon Quest IX, which features various equips for male only and female only, so choosing which equips are best for your character will be varied depending on what gender you are.

Personally, I feel from a role-playing aspect, playing as the opposite gender gives you a chance to REALLY role-play. You're stepping into a role that is definitely nothing like you and this gives you a chance to see if you are capable of pulling it off.

Try this: For those who still play D&D here, next time you are starting a new adventure and are creating a new character for said adventure, try creating a character that's the opposite gender as yourself. I think you might actually have fun trying to play this role.

Not really an issue with it. I usually play half and half most of the time, mainly just because I can and because I'm a completion whore and like to see if it's any different or if dialogue on different pending on gender. Also in some games the male character model might look weird or in some games the devs go nutts and make them so huge that it looks silly, like Soul Calibur 4 and the men's tree trunk thighs of doom, while the female character models look less disturbing. Plus it's a game and you take the role of someone else, and what's the furthest thing from yourself if your a guy? Answer is a girl (or horrendous monster/alien thing)

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