Escape to the Movies: Alice in Wonderland

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dashiz94:

EnigmaHarper:
Charlie is not his worst movie, though it is on the bottom. I wish to serve up a tasty tidbit called Planet of the Apes. What a horrible movie!

Wait, THE Planet of the Apes? That was a Tim Burton movie? Cause if it was, he struck gold with that. That movie was spectacular, I don't care what you say.

He's probably referring to the CG-enhanced remake. And I did not know he was involved in that at all.

Also, Bob... BEST... INTRO... EVER! Seriously, I was in tears at that. Too bad the movie doesn't sound as good...

likalaruku:

blakfayt:
I CALLED IT! two weeks ago I was sitting down to dinner with the family, my sister said that she wanted to see the new alice in wonderland movie, she's a burton fan (and she's 12!) I told her it was going to be sheed because it isn't the amazing third sequel I want (I DEMAND here and now that there be a movie of American McGee's alice, I would BUY that film) and that any critic with a decent head on his/her shoulders would know it. So thank you moviebob, and an even bigger thank you for making master chief slightly standable.

According to American McGee's blog, now that Spicey Horse is making a 2ed Alice Game, EA Games is all for an Alice movie.

WHOOOOOOO! you have just made my night! now if only we can find someone other than Tim to direct... anyone know of any directors who do a good job at gory, gothic stuff?

blakfayt:

likalaruku:

blakfayt:
I CALLED IT! two weeks ago I was sitting down to dinner with the family, my sister said that she wanted to see the new alice in wonderland movie, she's a burton fan (and she's 12!) I told her it was going to be sheed because it isn't the amazing third sequel I want (I DEMAND here and now that there be a movie of American McGee's alice, I would BUY that film) and that any critic with a decent head on his/her shoulders would know it. So thank you moviebob, and an even bigger thank you for making master chief slightly standable.

According to American McGee's blog, now that Spicey Horse is making a 2ed Alice Game, EA Games is all for an Alice movie.

WHOOOOOOO! you have just made my night! now if only we can find someone other than Tim to direct... anyone know of any directors who do a good job at gory, gothic stuff?

As long as it isn't Micheal Bay. That would be an instant ruin. Actually, it's not likely to come out for many years, but I suspect that if this Alice movie makes enough money, the AMA movie could be seen as a potential box office cash cow, once the rights to the movie stop square dancing between different studeos. Probably the same with "Pride & Prejudice & Zombies."

Bob sure can take a punch. I wouldn't be surprised if he reads all

his critcs' comments while sitting on a bigass chair going
"HAHAHA! YOUR PETTY INSULTS ARE NOTHING!!!"

likalaruku:

blakfayt:

likalaruku:

blakfayt:
I CALLED IT! two weeks ago I was sitting down to dinner with the family, my sister said that she wanted to see the new alice in wonderland movie, she's a burton fan (and she's 12!) I told her it was going to be sheed because it isn't the amazing third sequel I want (I DEMAND here and now that there be a movie of American McGee's alice, I would BUY that film) and that any critic with a decent head on his/her shoulders would know it. So thank you moviebob, and an even bigger thank you for making master chief slightly standable.

According to American McGee's blog, now that Spicey Horse is making a 2ed Alice Game, EA Games is all for an Alice movie.

WHOOOOOOO! you have just made my night! now if only we can find someone other than Tim to direct... anyone know of any directors who do a good job at gory, gothic stuff?

As long as it isn't Micheal Bay. That would be an instant ruin. Actually, it's not likely to come out for many years, but I suspect that if this Alice movie makes enough money, the AMA movie could be seen as a potential box office cash cow, once the rights to the movie stop square dancing between different studeos. Probably the same with "Pride & Prejudice & Zombies."

LOL, a Micheal Bay Alice in wonderland, I must now quote Robot Chicken with "Micheal bay-splosions!" Every time the Cheshire cat shows up he does so in a large explosion, and leaves in the same fashion, every weapon alice gets is a different type of grenade or rocket, and the movie ends with alice being chucked out of the rabbit hole via a large NUKE destroying ALL OF WONDERLAND. I'd hate it, but everyone who like halo would loves it to pieces.

When you said Alice gets a sword, I thought you would of went straight for a She-Ra joke, oh well. Great review as always.

What was wrong with Willy Wonka? Snarf snarf...

wow, I hadn't even heard of the LotR battles before this review. I thought it was going to be a somewhat pretentious attempt to make a "sequel" to the classic story, but instead we get Burton having the Mad Hat-uh, Alice and the Red Queen trying to be Sauron and Aragorn. Lewis Carroll must be spinning in his grave at high speed right this moment. If Burton really wanted to do something different he should have adapted Through the Looking Glass.

Considering how I liked both "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "American McGee's Alice", I'll definitely watch it anyway.

I actually went to see this before I saw the review. Huh. Just goes to show that me and moviebob are still having and on-again, off-again similarity in movie tastes. I really liked this movie a lot.

To everyone who has yet to see this film:

Bob's review has many valid points, and indeed, if you're looking for a movie that has a wonderful plot and well-developed characters, you will be sorely disappointed.

However, that's not to say that this movie is entirely without merit. I watched the movie today and found it rather enjoyable. Yes, it's a little schizophrenic, and yes, it's entirely predictable, but for some reason, it all comes together rather well. As Bob said, the light sprinkling of CG all over the place makes for some lovely effects, and it actually manages to make an interesting atmosphere for the movie.

If you're up in the air still about seeing it or not, I suggest giving it a chance. Who knows? You might actually find you enjoy it.

So Bob, am I to understand that, by and large, this is like Avatar? I mean in it having pretty CGI, camera and editing but a horrible script and terrible characters? Because then I will watch it 3D, as that seems to make Avatar much better yes? Or is this worst just because it lacks a certain... robotness?

Actually, that whole Master Chief thing sounds like something that Hideaki Anno would have made for "Halo Legends." After all, its got everything he likes: goth-loli fashion, random Christian ideology, a bleak world-view, cool looking robot protagonist. I'm surprised it wasn't already made!

Well that's wondrous, a movie I'll probably never get to see anyway because we don't have a cinema this time of year where I live.

I might see it if I get chance, just because the visuals interest me, but that's only if there's nothing better around when I head into the city.

gilgamesh32:
Wasn't the whole "Alice returns to wonderland, hell has broken loose" thing already done in a videogame? With a similar setup, similar visual style and the same villan? Or did I just dream that...

Still, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory>Planet of the apes every day.

Yes, its called american Mcgees alice.

OT: I may still go and see the movie cuase at then end of the day it just when he thought of it right?

The only Tim Burton movie I really like is Ed Wood. ESH is a good movie but Ed Wood is an underrated masterpiece.

One day, several cookies deleted and several other escapist movies watched later, and I still can't find out why I can't watch this video!

303: Failed to load a resource: Unable to load resources: Error #2036

Could anyone please help?

lol, Halo fanboys cop so much flack.

Eh, I'm still gonna see it today or Tomorow I don't have conventional tastes I go to a movie to be entertained not for it to be faithful to anything as long as its entertaining for me it don't gotta be faithful.

An honest opinion, finally. God. I feel like I've been alone in my thoughts that this was just like what Burton did with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The movie isn't bad. I enjoyed some of it. But I was reeeeeeally disappointed with how it seemed like a lot of the elements of the story were taken directly from other action movies. Autobot vs Decepticons. Man. That hits the nail on the head for me. Perfect description. In all fairness though, the book was extremely weird and random, so I guess you have to take it for what it is. Thanks for the honesty Movie Bob. I don't feel so alone anymore. *sniff*

Your opening to this one was classic. People don't understand that you say what you want to when you review. Which is exactly why I watch you every week without fail. Even when I disagree with you (Star Trek, The Book Of Eli) I still respect your opinion and the honesty with which it's given. Keep it up Bob! If I want smarmy industry speak I'll go read some A.O. Scott reviews from the New York Times film section. I dig your reviews because they're intelligent but still pack the punch of being about seeing a movie that is entertaining. Just the right balance of everyman and film critic. :)

I was kind of looking forward to this but you've done me a great service by saving this poor old student some money.

Also, that bit about Master Chief at the beginning cracked me up.

That's not lolita .... it's cheap, lacy piece of shit outfit that goes for 50 bucks in a Harajuku sidestreet. Geeze .. can't people tell the difference?

And it's not even gothic sub-genre of lolita even if it WAS a decent outfit.

Bad showing Bob ... stick to analysing movies. :P

aninsclone:
To everyone who has yet to see this film:

Bob's review has many valid points, and indeed, if you're looking for a movie that has a wonderful plot and well-developed characters, you will be sorely disappointed.

Great! That's what I look for in a good movie. Well at least I'm not paying to see it tommorow :P

Unless I have my literature horribly mixed up Red Queen was Alice through the Looking Glass, not Alice in Wonderland.

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

You shouldn't stop watching something good just because of its fans.

Onyx Oblivion:

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

You shouldn't hate something just because of its fans.

Well I don't know ... it's kinda hard to say "Hey look ... Alicei n Wonderland" and then not actually have Alice in Wonderland .... that's like getting a jasmine tea when you asked for a latte at Starbucks.

I'll still go see it, but if Burton has bastardized both Alice in Wonderland AND Through the looking glass I would hope that millions would boycott every other film he has made till the day he dies.

From the trailer and MB's critique it seems like they've even taken Tweedledee and Tweedledum ...

Gotta question Tim Burton's ability to even create a cogent book-to-film adapatation.

PaulH:

Onyx Oblivion:

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

You shouldn't hate something just because of its fans.

Well I don't know ... it's kinda hard to say "Hey look ... Alicei n Wonderland" and then not actually have Alice in Wonderland .... that's like getting a jasmine tea when you asked for a latte at Starbucks.

I was refering to Nightmare Before Christmas. He didn't HATE it (poor choice of words on my part), but he doesn't want to watch it again.

LOOKING AT BOB..

Nice video, i never wanted to see Alice anyway since Charlie and the chocy factory made me rage. Saying that im a fan of 4D and effects, so i might have a gander at some point.

Onyx Oblivion:

PaulH:

Onyx Oblivion:

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

You shouldn't hate something just because of its fans.

Well I don't know ... it's kinda hard to say "Hey look ... Alicei n Wonderland" and then not actually have Alice in Wonderland .... that's like getting a jasmine tea when you asked for a latte at Starbucks.

I was refering to Nightmare Before Christmas. He didn't HATE it (poor choice of words on my part), but he doesn't want to watch it again.

NP dude o.o Took your words out of context, for that I apologize ... but I still say Tim Burton should die horribly if Tweedledee and Tweedledum are in there ...

What else is in the movie? Rippling brooks and a knight who falls of his horse all the time?

I feel my childhood dying savagely :.: The problem is I want to watch the movie to see what's GOOD ... yet deny Tim Burton my hard-earned dollars for his gross dissection of childhood classics......

Seriously ... horrible adaptations of children's classic literature should be a punishable offence.

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

That just seems stupid.

If you let a movie you enjoy become ruined by different people liking it, you're pretty much the ultimate poser... it confuses me.

Eh.. it really is kind of the trend here though, Tim Burton really does appeal to those "oh I want to buy that and wear it as a shirt because i'm sooo trendy." Just fads in and fads out. Plus people are total Tools, and sometimes the whole Tool shed; so they kinda mindlessly follow Johnny Depp or Tim Burton; Wearing the clothes n'what not.

WrongSprite:

Daystar Clarion:
Another Tim Burton crap-fest that all the emo douche bag wannabes will jump all over. Seriously, Nightmare Before Christmas was brilliant, then all the Twilight-esque fangirls jumped all over it and now I get a bad taste in my mouth If I so much as consider watching it.

That just seems stupid.

If you let a movie you enjoy become ruined by different people liking it, you're pretty much the ultimate poser... it confuses me.

Ok, maybe I'm just shallow. But I liked Nightmare Before Christmas back in 1996, when it was just a dark take on a christmas story. Then around 2003 I notice a lot of people are completely missing the point. "Aww man, did you see Nightmare Before Christmas, it so deep and meaningful."
It's kind of like Twilight, I don't like it, but that's just my opinion. It's when people start acting like it's the best piece of literature/best movie, ever devised by mankind. That's what ruins things for me. So maybe I just suck and I shouldn't let it bother me, but it does.

You know I saw the movie last night and I am usually 100% behind MovieBob I am not here. I found it to be a decent if not well done followup to the original book work. Yes the book has little story, but this movies attempt to put a story on it does not diminish the fact that its well thought out, the number of tie ins to the book is incredible, and the "fight scene" that he says at the end of the movie, yes In retrospect the mad hatter with a claymore (not a broadsword) seems silly, but I think its important to see. It shows that everyone, from the doormouse to hatter, to tweedledum and tweedledee are willing to take up arms against an oppressor. The crowning moment in the fight is after the slaying of the Jabberwocky, the fact that both sides (minus the redqueen herself) drop their weapons, its an amazing moment when both sides realize... they shouldn't be fighting eachother.

Lastly, just as fun stuff, the Jabberwocky is actualy faithfully recreated to look like the art from the book, and the redqueen is totaly screwed up (especially when you see all the lopped off heads floating in her moat) definatly not a kids movie.

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