Review: Metro 2033

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People are saying this game is God's gift to gaming. I dont buy it. From all the reviews I've seen and all the lets plays Ive looked at, it doesnt seem worth my time any more than STALKER.

Odjin:
Stealth:
You can stealth, yes, but it's as annoying as carrying out trash cans all day long. These people saying the stealth is great "never" ever player a real stealth game as otherwise they would kick themselves for such an incorrect comment.

Please explain what was annoying? Name a "real" stealth game and the major differences. You hide in the shadows, move slowly not making sound and avoid people with NVGs or flashlights.

And for the sake of it. THIS IS NOT A STEALTH GAME, don't compare it to stealth games then.

Right moving on...

Odjin:
Librarians don't attack when you look at them:
As incorrect as it gets. Tried that out. They always attack you also if you look at them. Should this not be the case you hit a game bug.

You are the incorrect one, and if there is a bug involved, you hit it.

Instead of blindly following what your followers hastily told you before leaving like it was the word of god will get you nowhere. Sure, my attempts to stare them down failed at first but then discovered this by experimenting.

Stare at them until they stop and look at you wondering. After a little while they will usually start to growl and do threatening gestures at you. Take the hint! Back off slowly while looking at them. You surrendered to them and therefore you are not a threat and you will be left alone. For me this made this part of the game freaking great, I thought the librarians were well made and felt plausible, like they were animals.

The shotgun is weak as hell against humans though I'll give you that but i would assume that the since they are home made they are very weak and shotgun shells naturally have less penetration power than bullets, most humans halfway and forward have lots of thick armor which would render shotguns useless. We can't really know since we have no idea if these homemade rounds are birdshot or slugs.

The Almighty Grigard:

Odjin:
Stealth:
You can stealth, yes, but it's as annoying as carrying out trash cans all day long. These people saying the stealth is great "never" ever player a real stealth game as otherwise they would kick themselves for such an incorrect comment.

Please explain what was annoying? Name a "real" stealth game and the major differences. You hide in the shadows, move slowly not making sound and avoid people with NVGs or flashlights.

And for the sake of it. THIS IS NOT A STEALTH GAME, don't compare it to stealth games then.

Right moving on...

That "You hide in the shadows, move slowly not making sound and avoid people with NVGs or flashlights." pretty much described how I played the most part of the game, since its usually sucide to attack lots of people. And if you didn't need to do any stealth stuff then why the fuck do you have a thing on your arm showing how hidden you are?

dryg:

The Almighty Grigard:

Odjin:
Stealth:
You can stealth, yes, but it's as annoying as carrying out trash cans all day long. These people saying the stealth is great "never" ever player a real stealth game as otherwise they would kick themselves for such an incorrect comment.

Please explain what was annoying? Name a "real" stealth game and the major differences. You hide in the shadows, move slowly not making sound and avoid people with NVGs or flashlights.

And for the sake of it. THIS IS NOT A STEALTH GAME, don't compare it to stealth games then.

Right moving on...

That "You hide in the shadows, move slowly not making sound and avoid people with NVGs or flashlights." pretty much described how I played the most part of the game, since its usually sucide to attack lots of people. And if you didn't need to do any stealth stuff then why the fuck do you have a thing on your arm showing how hidden you are?

This isnt' a stealth game in the same way that Far Cry isn't a stealth game. Hiding in the shadows to get past large numbers of enemies, or to whittle down their numbers is a good idea, but it's not a game "about" stealth in the same way that Thief or Splinter Cell are... I assume that's what he meant. I don't know :)

TheBritish:

De Ronneman:
So, I didn't play 2033.

One question burns in my brain.

Well...

Thanks, so there are more clans/groups.

Now I get it, it's just people of the same belief clinging together. Somewhat admirable.

Now I only wonder where they got that many identical authentic uniforms in such great shape. Museum I guess.

It sounds like a game with a lot of potential. Apperently your suposed to pay with bullets, so that's dodgy. That will certainly make the "but I might need it later"-thought in your head go mental...

De Ronneman:

TheBritish:

De Ronneman:
So, I didn't play 2033.

One question burns in my brain.

Well...

Thanks, so there are more clans/groups.

Now I get it, it's just people of the same belief clinging together. Somewhat admirable.

Now I only wonder where they got that many identical authentic uniforms in such great shape. Museum I guess.

It sounds like a game with a lot of potential. Apperently your suposed to pay with bullets, so that's dodgy. That will certainly make the "but I might need it later"-thought in your head go mental...

TheBritish:

De Ronneman:

TheBritish:

Well...
In the book they're just described as "Fascists". The idea is that after the bombs dropped and people were thrown in together all kinds of ideologies came about. In the book they weren't "traditional" Nazis, but they were damn close. There are also Communists, Christians, Cannibals and god knows what else :))[/spoiler]

Thanks, so there are more clans/groups.

Now I get it, it's just people of the same belief clinging together. Somewhat admirable.

Now I only wonder where they got that many identical authentic uniforms in such great shape. Museum I guess.

It sounds like a game with a lot of potential. Apperently your suposed to pay with bullets, so that's dodgy. That will certainly make the "but I might need it later"-thought in your head go mental...

Wow, they thought that through good!

This game is sudenly rising on my "to play" list!

mchoueiri:

Onyx Oblivion:
snip.

I don't think that it is a horrid review simply because he does not agree with you. most reviewers have been saying the same thing.

Wrong. Most reviewers gave the game a solid 8. Gamerankings or Metacritic, only takes a second.

De Ronneman:

TheBritish:

De Ronneman:

Thanks, so there are more clans/groups.

Now I get it, it's just people of the same belief clinging together. Somewhat admirable.

Now I only wonder where they got that many identical authentic uniforms in such great shape. Museum I guess.

It sounds like a game with a lot of potential. Apperently your suposed to pay with bullets, so that's dodgy. That will certainly make the "but I might need it later"-thought in your head go mental...

Wow, they thought that through good!

This game is sudenly rising on my "to play" list!

What can I tell you to make it raise? :D
Honestly though... take into account that this game -is- flawed. Badly in some cases. If you do buy it don't come crying to me 'cause I warned you :) It's just... worth playing, I feel :)

Also showing a bit of support to a brand new company making enjoyable, unique experiences is always a good thing :)

TheBritish:

What can I tell you to make it raise? :D
Honestly though... take into account that this game -is- flawed. Badly in some cases. If you do buy it don't come crying to me 'cause I warned you :) It's just... worth playing, I feel :)

Also showing a bit of support to a brand new company making enjoyable, unique experiences is always a good thing :)

That's pretty much why I'm surprised. It sounds very good. I only read reviews about how absolutely crap it was, but after seeing the videosuplement and hearing stories about it, I'm starting to think it's not as bad as everyone says it is.

Well, that's always the case. Bashing a game is easier than telling what makes a good game...

I promise I won't come crying, and I'll probably defend it on some forum at some point.

Crunchy English:
I disagree with this review strongly. Feeling underpowered isn't a flaw, its a benefit. I'm sick of playing Rambo, vulnerability adds tension. Plus, they had a very famous novel to follow, they couldn't exactly let the player do whatever the heck they wanted.

If you're a narrative driven player, or just one who likes their shooters to be a little more difficult, you should really pick this one up.

EDIT - Also, I agree with Onyx, dirty rounds are all you need if you're careful. But don't spray and pray like you do in most shooters or you'll end up out of bullets altogether.

i can agreee with you becouse this is the only game wich realy made me feel unsafe and made think trhu every move and attac i made plus its the only game that realy makes watch your steps wich is for the best and a game where you have too keep your eyes open consume amo carefuly and be careful

Hazy:
I don't think this was quite the spiritual successor to STALKER that I was hoping it would be, but it's an interesting experiment nonetheless.

If this review has any relation to my opinion of it, then this shall be a solid rental.

this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

lolcatize:

Hazy:
I don't think this was quite the spiritual successor to STALKER that I was hoping it would be, but it's an interesting experiment nonetheless.

If this review has any relation to my opinion of it, then this shall be a solid rental.

this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

Hazy:

lolcatize:

Hazy:
I don't think this was quite the spiritual successor to STALKER that I was hoping it would be, but it's an interesting experiment nonetheless.

If this review has any relation to my opinion of it, then this shall be a solid rental.

this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

well hey unless you play dont say so becouse it dosent look like stalker for shit so until you play dont compare it to stalker and atmosfer is much heavyer in metro and its more post apocalyptic

Wow, this review seemed so unfair that it actually made me register here, even though I've been visiting the site for years, and set things straight.

If I were to sum up this game in one word, it would be "compelling". The game is definitely rough around the edges. The story isn't very well explained but whatever story is there, it's very well told. It doesn't employ an in-your-face explanation, but tells it through the environment - the cramped metros, pigs being reared in small, dirty markets, old war veterans begging for ammo, people sleeping on mats wherever there's enough space and somehow still trying to see the lighter side of life - "I serve the best drinks in this part of metro because I'm the only one serving drinks here.". Not a great line, I'll admit, but it works in this setting. It paints quite a depressing picture, and the developers should be lauded for putting such an effort which is rarely seen in games today.
Even the over-world is well realized. It's lonely and depressing especially when you get separated from your team. You'll usually be glad that someone is accompanying you through your mission. This is only because of the great characters you meet(with the exception of Ulman, although his "Invisible watchers" joke was pretty funny :D ). The low-point of the story for me was definitely the Dark Ones. Their motives were never fully explained and I was left wondering what exactly I was saving my "Exhibition" Metro from.

The game also has a moral choice system, if you can believe it, which unlocks an alternate ending. Things like scavenging ammo and medkit from a dead comrade will earn you a negative one, while giving alms will earn a positive one. But it isn't always clear what actions you have to take to unlock it, but it's addition definitely increases the game's depth.

Combat may not be great, but the sense of accomplishment you get when you do it the right way is phenomenal. Fighting mutants for me wasn't very engaging, but fighting the nazis and the reds was fun. My approach was to stealth kill a few first and then gun down the remaining few. Conserving ammo is pretty important, although it's not as frustrating as it would seem to be. You just have to make every shot count. Are you good at taking headshots? Not good enough for this game! You've to aim exactly at the gap where the helmet ends and the armor begins! There was this one scenario wherein two guards were patrolling back and forth there was a patch of darkness in their patrolling route which was the only safe place to take one of them out without alerting the other one. So when you turn on the night vision , equip your revolver-turned-silenced-sniper-rifle, and place a shot right in the guys neck while he's passing through the dark patch for just a couple of seconds, you'll know how rewarding this game can be.

In another scenario, I was passing through a maze of dilapidated cars and my cover got blown, so instead of just emptying rounds after rounds into the enemies, I took careful shots hiding behind cars and cracked their gas masks which led to their suffocation and death.

The game does have a few weak points though. The partly-silent protagonist didn't really work for me. I mean, the guy spoke as a narrator before each level which made his silence in-game more awkward. Also, I really wanted to explore Polis, which seemed like the biggest metro station of all. It even had a small government to boot, but the game never gave a chance to see more of it.

It's turning out to be quite a lengthy post. If you've made it this far, then I hope I've convinced you into at least giving this game a rental. It really feels like a game crafted with a lot of care, especially considering that it's the studio's first game. Please support games like these. We need more of them.

PS: I played it on the PC. AMD 955BE 3.2 quad, 6GB RAM, 1GB ATI5770, Windows 7, DirectX 10. Settings at "High".

lolcatize:

Hazy:

lolcatize:

Hazy:
I don't think this was quite the spiritual successor to STALKER that I was hoping it would be, but it's an interesting experiment nonetheless.

If this review has any relation to my opinion of it, then this shall be a solid rental.

this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

well hey unless you play dont say so becouse it dosent look like stalker for shit so until you play dont compare it to stalker and atmosfer is much heavyer in metro and its more post apocalyptic

Well, hey, your opinion is your own.

Regardless, I stick to my guns. From what I've seen, Metro: 2033 looks like it draws some influence from STALKER. Shit, Prokhorov (Paragraph 4) even admits that Metro has drawn some influence from SoC.

Does that mean I think Metro: 2033 is not it's own game?
Of course not, but with development staff from STALKER also working on Metro, I would say my comparisons of the two, if at nothing more than an atmospheric level, are far from being unjust.

TheBritish:
[quote="Brian Hendershot" post="6.187901.5787206"]Yeah I loved the game. To me it was a bland grey FPS shooter done right. I mean I wish there was more physiological aspects of the game, I really felt like the game was trying to convey it more then it actually did. As for enemies or the stealth I really didn't have a problem. The game allows you to sneak past all the enemies, often though you have to wait and observe. The game is also very specific about were you have to hit people to get them to die with one shot.

Good review, I just don't agree with it.

Though the fucking amoebas at the end of the game warrants it the loss of a star or two.

One of my favourite things about this game is that you have to try to aim for gaps in the armour, even places under people's arms. It's great :)

Yeah first I thought the game was just being glitchy or something then I realized oh yeah...this is a realistic game. or as realistic as a bland first person shooter set in fallout Russia can get.

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TheBritish:

Brian Hendershot:
Yeah I loved the game. To me it was a bland grey FPS shooter done right. I mean I wish there was more physiological aspects of the game, I really felt like the game was trying to convey it more then it actually did. As for enemies or the stealth I really didn't have a problem. The game allows you to sneak past all the enemies, often though you have to wait and observe. The game is also very specific about were you have to hit people to get them to die with one shot.

Good review, I just don't agree with it.

Though the fucking amoebas at the end of the game warrants it the loss of a star or two.

One of my favourite things about this game is that you have to try to aim for gaps in the armour, even places under people's arms. It's great :)

Yeah first I thought the game was just being glitchy or something then I realized oh yeah...this is a realistic game. or as realistic as a bland first person shooter set in fallout Russia can get.

dev0nian:
*Hate to snip your first post* :)

If you want to know about the motives of the Dark Ones in the book... (considering I've STILL not finished the game :))


And to you...

lolcatize:

Hazy:

lolcatize:
this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

well hey unless you play dont say so becouse it dosent look like stalker for shit so until you play dont compare it to stalker and atmosfer is much heavyer in metro and its more post apocalyptic

"4A Games is an offshoot of GSC Game Word who made STALKER.
Both games are set in Russia featuring Russian locations, post-apocalyptic landscapes and appearances and themes.
Both games place you in the role of someone often relying on their teammates for support.
Both games have what I usually describe as the "Russian Game Factor", which means that you're put in the role of someone who has bad, inaccurate weapons, can't take many shots before they die and doesn't really know what's going on.
Both involve people called Stalkers? Now I'm getting desparate :)

But it's a little weird to say they're "incomparable". Crash Bandicoot and Sonic the Hedgehog are "comparable"."

Hazy:

lolcatize:

Hazy:

lolcatize:

Hazy:
I don't think this was quite the spiritual successor to STALKER that I was hoping it would be, but it's an interesting experiment nonetheless.

If this review has any relation to my opinion of it, then this shall be a solid rental.

this is nowhere near to stalker my fried i have played all 3 stalker games and this cant even be compared realy

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

well hey unless you play dont say so becouse it dosent look like stalker for shit so until you play dont compare it to stalker and atmosfer is much heavyer in metro and its more post apocalyptic

Well, hey, your opinion is your own.

Regardless, I stick to my guns. From what I've seen, Metro: 2033 looks like it draws some influence from STALKER. Shit, Prokhorov (Paragraph 4) even admits that Metro has drawn some influence from SoC.

Does that mean I think Metro: 2033 is not it's own game?
Of course not, but with development staff from STALKER also working on Metro, I would say my comparisons of the two, if at nothing more than an atmospheric level, are far from being unjust.

offcourse he admit that metro was created by people who jumped off after the first stalker but you cant compare them side by side

TheBritish:

dev0nian:
*Hate to snip your first post* :)

If you want to know about the motives of the Dark Ones in the book... (considering I've STILL not finished the game :))


And to you...

lolcatize:

Hazy:

If you ask me, there's a huge relation to the atmosphere and tone of the two games, granted, I've never actually played Metro: 2033, so my opinion on the subject is that of a mere onlooker.

well hey unless you play dont say so becouse it dosent look like stalker for shit so until you play dont compare it to stalker and atmosfer is much heavyer in metro and its more post apocalyptic

"4A Games is an offshoot of GSC Game Word who made STALKER.
Both games are set in Russia featuring Russian locations, post-apocalyptic landscapes and appearances and themes.
Both games place you in the role of someone often relying on their teammates for support.
Both games have what I usually describe as the "Russian Game Factor", which means that you're put in the role of someone who has bad, inaccurate weapons, can't take many shots before they die and doesn't really know what's going on.
Both involve people called Stalkers? Now I'm getting desparate :)

But it's a little weird to say they're "incomparable". Crash Bandicoot and Sonic the Hedgehog are "comparable"."

so you compare by those factor but try to its ok alright still its a lot diffrente and now compare story and offcourse they dont take many shots ffs the game is realistic one of the most realistic games i played more realistic than Mw2 wich everyne calls realistic will ever be becouse those idiots couldnt make a fucking claymore mine right

lolcatize:
so you compare by those factor but try to its ok alright still its a lot diffrente and now compare story and offcourse they dont take many shots ffs the game is realistic one of the most realistic games i played more realistic than Mw2 wich everyne calls realistic will ever be becouse those idiots couldnt make a fucking claymore mine right

I don't... really know what you're trying to say here :). I was just pointing out that Russian games tend to be more realistic in terms of things like damage and... it seems like you agree with me but are angry at me anyway :)
Oh and... I have played all the STALKER games and Metro-2033, and I don't think I could make a claymore mine either :) Not really sure who could :)

TheBritish:

dev0nian:
*Hate to snip your first post* :)

If you want to know about the motives of the Dark Ones in the book... (considering I've STILL not finished the game :))

Thanks for that explanation! I feel the game could've done a better job of conveying that part of the story.

dev0nian:

TheBritish:

dev0nian:
*Hate to snip your first post* :)

If you want to know about the motives of the Dark Ones in the book... (considering I've STILL not finished the game :))

Thanks for that explanation! I feel the game could've done a better job of conveying that part of the story.

I don't think the game really introduces the threat all that well either :). The book has a great opening where you hear a load of different stories from different people and have no idea what's true and what's just rumour. It's kinda scary :).

Also...

TheBritish:

lolcatize:
so you compare by those factor but try to its ok alright still its a lot diffrente and now compare story and offcourse they dont take many shots ffs the game is realistic one of the most realistic games i played more realistic than Mw2 wich everyne calls realistic will ever be becouse those idiots couldnt make a fucking claymore mine right

I don't... really know what you're trying to say here :). I was just pointing out that Russian games tend to be more realistic in terms of things like damage and... it seems like you agree with me but are angry at me anyway :)
Oh and... I have played all the STALKER games and Metro-2033, and I don't think I could make a claymore mine either :) Not really sure who could :)

no no no im not angrybut yeah so far russian develpers have made more realistic games interms of weapon and damage but about the claymore i meant that bullshit that a real claymore cant be put in front of an enemy becouse its a tripwire setoff but those who made Mw2 made a couple lasors to set it off and call it realistic xD

SirDerick:
If one more person says the librarians take too many bullets to kill, ima smack them.

edit: Maybe I should have specified that if you stare at the faces of the lybrarian without shooting, they don't attack you.

your kidding? i shot everyone i came across

Brian Hendershot:
Though the fucking amoebas at the end of the game warrants it the loss of a star or two.

took me ages to realise you could blow up the things they spawn from

This game actually looks pretty awesome, albeit with a bunch of poor design choices. Oh well.

Sir_Tor:
Logan Westbrook? New to the escapist or have I missed something?

I ask my friends wether it's good or not as they have the same taste as me and they said it's awesome. Maybe you played the game wrong? :)

He did play the game wrong, all the footage in the video looks like a 4 year old was playing. He gets right up to the enemy and then is confused why he dies? It's like playing bad company 2 by running straight into someones gun and expecting it to be a smart tactic, then giving the game a bad score because he sucks at playing it.

I see Logan has not responded to any comments. Maybe he's out playing the PC version properly for a fair review.

Crunchy English:

mchoueiri:

Onyx Oblivion:
snip.

I don't think that it is a horrid review simply because he does not agree with you. most reviewers have been saying the same thing.

Wrong. Most reviewers gave the game a solid 8. Gamerankings or Metacritic, only takes a second.

ok my bad. but still just because someone says differently does not mean that it is a bad review. Like a reviewer may not like the game but he may bring up good points.

Personally, the one thing that stood out for me is that the moral choices weren't huge swings of the pendulum making you either ultimate super morality man or the spawn of the anti-christ and Uwe Boll. Simple things like accepting a reward vs not accepting a reward, offering assistance to certain NPCs that you can have dialog with. Even the "bad" ending as it were, wasn't end of the world, trumped up evil endings that most games have. If anything, its the ending you expect to get if you don't quite make the effort to put all the pieces together.

The environment and story was solid (makes me want to read the book), graphics were gorgeous, the gunplay didn't really distract me, if anything, I think it fits the fact that your using antiquated, amateurish made weaponry with homemade dirty rounds. Stealth elements were passable. I'd say a score of a 8 to a 8.5 is being fair.

Susan Arendt:

The Cheezy One:

zombie711:
is the escapist have an office in The UK now? it the first time i heard some one outside the states do a review on this site. (besides zero punctuation)

i noticed that too, im grateful to actually hear another UK voice aside from ZPs. no offence to all the americans, canadians and australians, but they are all i hear

We're an American company. It's really so surprising to hear American accents from the staff?

I thought u guys had multicultural staff

mchoueiri:

Susan Arendt:

The Cheezy One:

zombie711:
is the escapist have an office in The UK now? it the first time i heard some one outside the states do a review on this site. (besides zero punctuation)

i noticed that too, im grateful to actually hear another UK voice aside from ZPs. no offence to all the americans, canadians and australians, but they are all i hear

We're an American company. It's really so surprising to hear American accents from the staff?

I thought u guys had multicultural staff

You thought the Escapist was run by a multicultural team of various faiths and beliefs? :)

Tharwen:
It looks like a crossover between COD2 and Fallout 3.

And if you truly believed the game to play like that, you would hate it.

TheBritish:

mchoueiri:

Susan Arendt:

The Cheezy One:

zombie711:
is the escapist have an office in The UK now? it the first time i heard some one outside the states do a review on this site. (besides zero punctuation)

i noticed that too, im grateful to actually hear another UK voice aside from ZPs. no offence to all the americans, canadians and australians, but they are all i hear

We're an American company. It's really so surprising to hear American accents from the staff?

I thought u guys had multicultural staff

You thought the Escapist was run by a multicultural team of various faiths and beliefs? :)

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hahahahahahahaha, that was a good one that had me laughing for a good 2 minutes and yes.

I strongly disagree with this review,

The game, from moment one, is meant to make you feel like an ordinary guy in some very weird circumstances, which, I'd say it pulled off well, I was drawn into the creepiness of the scene and of the feeling of being the weaker in a fight between mutants and other people.

Ammo was never an issue (as some others have mentioned), dirty ammo is fine as ammo, I thing it was only at the start that I needed to use Mil grade ammo (because I still hadn't gotten my head reset away from the ol' combat tactics in other shooters), other weapons (such as the helsing, the oversized BB gun ((can't think of the name))and others) all had the right feel to them, hand made and they had alot of power in them.

Stealth was pretty good, instead of the usual 'huh? why did something just impact next to me? ahh well' they responded, shouting out, making a noise and the like, which lets everyone else know whats going on, of course you'd yell out if you noticed something. (although, the fact they zero in from moment one is annoying)

Overall, its a good game, not a great one, but certainly better then say, Modern Warfare 2, but its well on its way to pushing towards games that are more like Stalker then not. :)

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