Escape to the Movies: Kick-Ass

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cobra_ky:

solidstatemind:
Huh. Is this the worst marketing job ever, or what? I had no idea what the movie was about-- I thought it was a KIDDIE flick FFS.

I imagine that I'm not the only one: anyone who isn't familiar with the comic book probably has a mistaken impression about the movie if they go solely by the commercials... (I suppose a trailer might clarify things more.)

Not the worst. People actually took their kids to see Pan's Labyrinth. At least this one has "Ass" right in the title. Doesn't anybody notice when a film is rated R anymore?

Man, it would've been hilarious to see a parents reaction as they went through it...
*Internal monologue*
Oh hey, this is a little weird, and subtitled, not sure my kid will really get this. Ah well, it's a nice fantasy story, if a bit dark OH GOD WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO HIS FACE OH GOD LITTLE JIMMY STOP WATCHING NOW.

Outright Villainy:

cobra_ky:

solidstatemind:
Huh. Is this the worst marketing job ever, or what? I had no idea what the movie was about-- I thought it was a KIDDIE flick FFS.

I imagine that I'm not the only one: anyone who isn't familiar with the comic book probably has a mistaken impression about the movie if they go solely by the commercials... (I suppose a trailer might clarify things more.)

Not the worst. People actually took their kids to see Pan's Labyrinth. At least this one has "Ass" right in the title. Doesn't anybody notice when a film is rated R anymore?

Man, it would've been hilarious to see a parents reaction as they went through it...
*Internal monologue*
Oh hey, this is a little weird, and subtitled, not sure my kid will really get this. Ah well, it's a nice fantasy story, if a bit dark OH GOD WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO HIS FACE OH GOD LITTLE JIMMY STOP WATCHING NOW.

Ahh, Guillermo del Toro. Master of making things really really disturbing.

*runs off to watch The Orphanage again*

PS. Seriously, if you havnt seen The Orphanage. GO WATCH IT NOW! Its got a totally fucked up ending.

Spot1990:

pearcinator:
sorry MovieBob...still looks like shit to me.

...just like how Watchmen was a shit movie (really, it seriously was such a shit movie...I cant believe you actually liked it). That blue dude in the movie (you know...the one who always rocked out with his cock out?) pissed me off in so many ways. I wanted him to just die. I hated that blue prick.

*SPOILERS IF YOU HAVNT SEEN WATCHMEN*

Rorschach (or however you spell it) was the best character in the movie...and he as the one who died. You want to know why the good guys win in mostly every movie???? Because if the bad guys win (like what happened in Watchmen) then the movie ends up being a total let-down and it makes me angry.

I don't want to sound like a pretentious dick, but if you thought Ozymandias was "the bad guy", you missed the point. Watchmen wasn't as black and white as all that. For instance, I'd consider Rorschach more morally reprehensible than Ozymandias.

You're not really supposed to like Manhattan by the way. He's the least relatable character in the entire movie.

But as I said, Watchmen isn't just a black and white movie, it's all grey areas and everyone's going to form an opinion on it one way or the other so obviously some people's will be negative.

Ozymandias set off nuclear explosions (framing them as Manhattans doing), killing millions of innocent lives. Rorschach killed many people but they all deserved to die. I know what your saying by Rorchach being morally a bad guy too...but he was fighting for justice, he was trying to bring balance by killing 'bad dudes' 1 at a time. Ozymandias brought balance by simply killing a few million people and blaming it on the 1 guy who was different than everybody else.

I saw it as a 'bad guy wins' ending...I know its not black and white but Id still rather Ozymandias die than Rorschach (cos Ozy was an arsehole too)

Also, completely unrelated to the movie outcome...but wtf was that glass castle thing that Manhatten had on Mars? what was its purpose? to be brought down in 3 punches? I never read the graphic novel so I know that my hatred of the movie isnt fair to those who have read the novel...but the movie didnt make me want to go and read it at all.

Also 4 blue cocks taking up the screen isnt very appealing to me...why didnt he wear clothes?

pearcinator:
Ozymandias set off nuclear explosions (framing them as Manhattans doing), killing millions of innocent lives. Rorschach killed many people but they all deserved to die. I know what your saying by Rorchach being morally a bad guy too...but he was fighting for justice, he was trying to bring balance by killing 'bad dudes' 1 at a time. Ozymandias brought balance by simply killing a few million people and blaming it on the 1 guy who was different than everybody else.

I saw it as a 'bad guy wins' ending...I know its not black and white but Id still rather Ozymandias die than Rorschach (cos Ozy was an arsehole too)

Also, completely unrelated to the movie outcome...but wtf was that glass castle thing that Manhatten had on Mars? what was its purpose? to be brought down in 3 punches? I never read the graphic novel so I know that my hatred of the movie isnt fair to those who have read the novel...but the movie didnt make me want to go and read it at all.

Also 4 blue cocks taking up the screen isnt very appealing to me...why didnt he wear clothes?

Yeah but he did it to avoid World War 3. It's really a question of do the ends justify the means. He killed a few million to save countless others. Oh yeah, Ozy was a tool. No doubt about it. Have you ever seen Serenity? If not, in it the Operative kills a village filled with women and children for no greater reason than the people he was after would go there for help. He acknowledges that this was horrible but felt it was for the greater good. He says he wants to create a perfect world and then says he knows he has no place in it, that he's a monster. What Ozymandias did needed to be done by someone, whoever did it was a mass murderer, no doubt about it but it still had to be done. (You probably disagree with me, fair enough, I'm just trying to show that there's another way to look at it).

That glass castle... You got me there. I have read the graphic novel and I'm still not sure of the importance. I imagine he built it because he never intended to go back to earth but the entire thing does seem like a massive deviation from the plot. I think it's main purpose is to add a little to the character. I didn't love the movie, but the graphic novel is one of my favourite books of all time. If you can pick up a cheap copy or better yet borrow one I'd say give it a go. You never know it might surprise you, if not and you only borrowed it at least you didn't waste money.

In response to blue cock all I can say is this; if you were basically God, would you wear pants?

I always wanted to see this film since the trailer it looks like a good time.

Awesome movie. Will see again with my friends when they go. I have to wait til Sunday to discuss it with them. Blargh.

Spot1990:

pearcinator:
Ozymandias set off nuclear explosions (framing them as Manhattans doing), killing millions of innocent lives. Rorschach killed many people but they all deserved to die. I know what your saying by Rorchach being morally a bad guy too...but he was fighting for justice, he was trying to bring balance by killing 'bad dudes' 1 at a time. Ozymandias brought balance by simply killing a few million people and blaming it on the 1 guy who was different than everybody else.

I saw it as a 'bad guy wins' ending...I know its not black and white but Id still rather Ozymandias die than Rorschach (cos Ozy was an arsehole too)

Also, completely unrelated to the movie outcome...but wtf was that glass castle thing that Manhatten had on Mars? what was its purpose? to be brought down in 3 punches? I never read the graphic novel so I know that my hatred of the movie isnt fair to those who have read the novel...but the movie didnt make me want to go and read it at all.

Also 4 blue cocks taking up the screen isnt very appealing to me...why didnt he wear clothes?

Yeah but he did it to avoid World War 3. It's really a question of do the ends justify the means. He killed a few million to save countless others. Oh yeah, Ozy was a tool. No doubt about it. Have you ever seen Serenity? If not, in it the Operative kills a village filled with women and children for no greater reason than the people he was after would go there for help. He acknowledges that this was horrible but felt it was for the greater good. He says he wants to create a perfect world and then says he knows he has no place in it, that he's a monster. What Ozymandias did needed to be done by someone, whoever did it was a mass murderer, no doubt about it but it still had to be done. (You probably disagree with me, fair enough, I'm just trying to show that there's another way to look at it).

That glass castle... You got me there. I have read the graphic novel and I'm still not sure of the importance. I imagine he built it because he never intended to go back to earth but the entire thing does seem like a massive deviation from the plot. I think it's main purpose is to add a little to the character. I didn't love the movie, but the graphic novel is one of my favourite books of all time. If you can pick up a cheap copy or better yet borrow one I'd say give it a go. You never know it might surprise you, if not and you only borrowed it at least you didn't waste money.

In response to blue cock all I can say is this; if you were basically God, would you wear pants?

Jesus wore pants...therefore God probably wears pants too! I dont think God would have a penis anyway. Dr Manhatten is just a lunatic that can do whatever he wants cos he cant die. Hes not God, hes just the result of a freak accident.

I think my hatred of that movie is all Dr. Manhattens fault. I might have liked it if he wasnt a character. I did like the opening credits though, probably the best opening credits ive seen in any movie....the sex scene with the song halelujah just made me laugh at the stupidity of the extremely poor song choice.

kick ass will not be played at my theater =(

Is the reference to the relationship Robbin and Batman had, or of the Adam West Batman?

I really can't decide. I think I'll play it safe & wait till it's on TV in a year or 2. I can't believe there's gore until someone actually shows it to me. This looks like another retarded Spy Kids movies with kids that can't act. But I love the comparison to Troma & comic books too.

I saw this today and I have to say it was hilarious. I went in expecting very little, and was pleasantly surprised by just how awesome it was. The main character Kick-Ass is ridiculously well acted by Aaron Johnson and I'm absolutely certain we'll be seeing much more of him in the near future.

The action scenes were really well choreographed, shocking, and just bad ass. It's also very, very, very funny. It's nice to see Nicolas Cage in a movie that doesn't absolutely suck, and in a role that he really seems to excel at.

I'd definitely suggest it to friends, but I can see how some would be very put off by the crude humor and ridiculous level of violence.

Almost the entire LRR crew went to see this tonight (yes, we even hang out together...) and we all liked it. Lots of fun, pretty funny in parts.

Just got back from it.
Probably the most entertaining movie I've seen all year (2010), but certainly not the greatest. It was fun and exciting and funny, I even enjoyed the direction. But I don't think it's going to win any Oscars.

Just got back from the movie and I've decided that when I have kids if I have a daughter, I'll raise her to be like Hit-Girl. (RUN ON SENTENCE!)

I saw two different trailers for this movie. One that focused on Hit Girl and one that focused on.. whatsisface-Spiderman-wannabe.

I thought they were completely different movies as the tone was so polar.

I'm really reluctant to see this movie pretty much due to Hit Girl. I fear Mary Sues.

A lot of repeated footage this week. Kinda boring.

I think I've lost count of the amount of times Bob has referred to a movie as the "most gory action film in mainstream theatres" by now. Can we get maybe a list? More than District 9 but less than Repo Men, perhaps?

Also, I'm glad to hear that humanity has been injected back into the story. One of Millar's big problems as a writer (and he has many, the main one being that he just isn't very good at it) is that he can only write hollow, cynical ghosts that are either empty vessels for projection fantasies or blank slates for heavy handed symbolism.

Also, can we count Chloe Moretz as one of the child actors I really hope survives adolescence? I haven't seen the movie yet, but just from trailers and interviews you can tell if she somehow avoids the gaping pit of drugs and casual sex that typically ruins these kids she's going to be great.

Outright Villainy:

cobra_ky:

solidstatemind:
Huh. Is this the worst marketing job ever, or what? I had no idea what the movie was about-- I thought it was a KIDDIE flick FFS.

I imagine that I'm not the only one: anyone who isn't familiar with the comic book probably has a mistaken impression about the movie if they go solely by the commercials... (I suppose a trailer might clarify things more.)

Not the worst. People actually took their kids to see Pan's Labyrinth. At least this one has "Ass" right in the title. Doesn't anybody notice when a film is rated R anymore?

Man, it would've been hilarious to see a parents reaction as they went through it...
*Internal monologue*
Oh hey, this is a little weird, and subtitled, not sure my kid will really get this. Ah well, it's a nice fantasy story, if a bit dark OH GOD WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO HIS FACE OH GOD LITTLE JIMMY STOP WATCHING NOW.

You should have seen the face of the mom with a 5 year old kid who thought South Park was the latest Disney flick by the time they left the theatre. That movie improves a lot if you see it with one of those sitting right next to you.

I never found hit-girl to be depraved in the way you put it bob. To me, she feels like, "what if the punisher got a hold of robin before batman did? And if he was a girl".

Loved it, went a couple of days ago. Everything from the awesome fight scenes, the dark humor, Hit girl being the most awesome character since ever and to quote YZ the balls tinglingly fantastic ending. I agree with MovieBob go, get up and go now its worth it :D

Already seen the film and I have to say I agree wholeheartedly with moviebob's review, this movie is a must see.

This is pretty much the polar opposite of wanted, a movie that took mark millars interesting concepts and did away with them almost entirely as well as most of the better characters like Mr rictus and ended up being a pale and flacid slice of gun porn and a detraction from the book..

Kick-ass actually improves Millars book immensley and deserves to be a big hit.

So KickAss is KickAss XD

Given the presence of Adam West in pop culture in recent years due to Family guy and to a lesser extent, Fairly Odd Parents, I'd be suprised if anyone under twenty who was into comic book movies did'nt get the references. I for one utterly loved the transformation from odd father to even odder superhero

PurpleLeafRave:
Hit Girl is so awesome! That's how I'm going to train my daughter.

That's why I wanna have kids :P
OT: Fuck! Why is this movie coming so late to my country!

solidstatemind:
Huh. Is this the worst marketing job ever, or what? I had no idea what the movie was about-- I thought it was a KIDDIE flick FFS.

I imagine that I'm not the only one: anyone who isn't familiar with the comic book probably has a mistaken impression about the movie if they go solely by the commercials... (I suppose a trailer might clarify things more.)

Actually no, it didn't(or at least for me I didn't). The commercials and trailers gave me an first(false) impression, and Bob's review a totally different perspective to the film. Too bad I won't be able to go see it and clarify things for the next 2 or 3 weeks :(

Hurr Durr Derp:
I enjoyed the Kick-Ass comic so I was already going to see the movie this weekend, but it's good to hear you being positive about it.

I can't wait to see it. :)

There even was a comic?! Wow! would you mind telling me if it;s worth reading it after one sees the movie?

The hit right at the end looks pretty brutal. I'm going to give this a try, but the mentions of ultra-violence make me worried about just how strong it gets.

yoyo13rom:

Hurr Durr Derp:
I enjoyed the Kick-Ass comic so I was already going to see the movie this weekend, but it's good to hear you being positive about it.

I can't wait to see it. :)

There even was a comic?! Wow! would you mind telling me if it;s worth reading it after one sees the movie?

It's not the best comic ever, but it's worth reading, yeah. Especially if you like the movie.

Hurr Durr Derp:

It's not the best comic ever, but it's worth reading, yeah. Especially if you like the movie.

Thanks! I'll be sure to read if after I get to see the movie.

I really enjoyed the film and utterly agree on every single thing you said. I just saw the movie yesterday and got a kick out of the spiderman-esque characters and the general comedy of the entire movie. The action sequences were also spectacular! I enjoyed waching Big Daddy go to work.

Good job Bob!

I completely agree, everyone should watch this film! It's damn amazing and i would love to see it again!

Well between MovieBob and Fatboy over on Cracked, this movie has gotten a very good rating, so based on that, I'll probably go see it when I'm back home. Gotta do something there...

As the resident 'sexist' and possibly racist at the escapist...

I liked Kick-Ass for actually showing how fathers can be far more important to a kid's life than mothers.

Make that, I like Kick-ass for laser-focusing on father rather than mother figures.

Make that, I like Kick-ass for taking two types of father that're actually pretty common in real life, the 'simply there provider' and the 'obsessed, socially awkward, and off-putting carer,' and giving them both screen time, recognition of their service, and positive props.

I liked Kick-ass for actually having ethnic gangs for the most part, instead of Ocean's 11 style multiracial organizations.

I liked kick-ass for noting that you have to kill EVERYONE on your missions to run either a heroic or evil organization that focuses on staying secret, whether it's making sure that the visiting junkies and whores also die,(having tits or looking pathetic in the corner are no guarantee that you should keep your life if you hang around criminals!) or killing the bystander who saw you killing the other guy.

I just like kick-ass for showing that batons be silly weapons for fighting criminals. Anything that doesn't kill people is silly weapons for fighting criminals.

I liked kick-ass for showing how the coolest character got his skill from his previous job as a cop, an actual real-life protection profession.

I DON'T like kick-ass for not using GOOD bystanders to actually help the hero. When there are some beefy guys along with the rest of the crowd watching the three-man beatdown, you're telling me that none of them are going to come in and take on the distracted dudes? (This is how monoracial criminal gangs in real life protect themselves from outside interference-live in an area where everyone's a potential sympathizer, muscle in a fight, or informant. Batman wouldn't last two seconds going up against a target in a real ghetto.)

I DON'T like Kick-Ass for perpetuating and enshrining the whole wire-fu butt-kicking babe fetish that Hollywood nerds seem to orgasm over even when it's patently unrealistic. Give the tiny girl that knows how to use them more GUNS! Lots of GUNS! In the Army, we give the littlest guy the biggest GUNS! What's with this knife-on-a-string shit? It's hard and tedious enough to decapitate or impale someone as a big, strapping dude, and you expect me to believe that a tiny girl can generate the force necessary to cut off all those limbs or stab someone through doors? (All the gun scenes in the movie are the coolest ones anyway.) I can sort of believe that crazy training can allow one to aim one-handed and hit your target almost all the time except while running straight at them. I can't believe that crazy training can allow a girl to get lightsaber-level results from sharp pieces of metal.

I happen to like Steve Sailer's review of Spider-man 2 for this one:

Steve Sailer:
The best thing about the new movie is director Sam Raimi's all-out assault on the butt-kicking babe fetish, that pseudo-feminist trope about how pretty girls can easily beat up big strong men that infests almost all of Raimi's competition. You know how in the climactic fight in every blockbuster for the last five years, the willowy 105 pound love interest will always punch out the bad guy to cheers from the audience? Well, in Spiderman 2, while Spidey (Tobey Maguire) and Doctor Octopus (Alfred Molina), with his four extra robot arms, are battling it out at the end, Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst) picks up a two-by-four and sneaks up from behind to whack the eight-limbed freak on the noggin (in itself, a rather old fashioned female movie move -- nowadays, we are mostly shown a semi-anorexic leading lady socking a burly bad man right on the jaw as if she was John Wayne). But, in Spiderman 2, unlike in every other movie this summer, the bad guy turns out to be stronger than the starlet. Without even turning around, Doc Ock dismissively flicks Mary Jane across the room.

Just to rub in his contempt for the butt-kicking babe cliché, Raimi repeatedly shows beautiful women reacting to Doc Ock's attacks not by slamming him around with their kung fu moves, but by looking straight into the camera lens from about 6 inches away and screaming for about ten seconds straight with their mouths so wide open their tonsils show. In one scene, three ladies in a row cut loose with extended screams. It would be awfully annoying if it wasn't so obvious that Raimi is just demonstrating his independence from this particularly stupid stereotype.

At least Hit-Girl kills people rather than trying to punch them. But still, she knows how to use GUNS! Focus on that!

(In the real world, where we have to arrest people more often than kill them, petite cops, courageous or not, are kind of a problem.)

Well, Bob, once you start telling me to watch The Watchmen as a deep, introspective, moving piece of masterwork cinema, I just discredited you right there.

Watchmen was one long boring journey through emo-cry-moar-land with two really cool fight scenes.

I watched Kick Ass, loved it, I don't think I've laughed so much at a movie in years.

I really liked Kick-ass. Firstly, the soundtrack was brilliant - the use of the Prodigy was appreciated.

I thought it was a good film, best i've seen in a while.

I just watched it. Going into it without knowing anything but the premise was the best desicion I've made in a while :D

When the ending came around I was like... "woah" O.O

Not a single theatre in my city is playing it. What the hell?!

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