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So killing others with a Condom is acceptable but having sex with it isn't?

Hithlain:

InterAirplay:

Hithlain:

For me, it's like when you go to college and in their orientation meetings they say "Alcohol is completely forbidden for people under the age of 21, which you are. Therefore you cannot drink. However if you WERE to drink, here are some safety tips".

I mean, no one is being fooled that underage people in college don't drink. I'd rather there be some safety training for them though than just throwing them out there and hoping they don't die from alcohol poisoning. Not everyone in college drinks, but those who do made that choice and they need to know how to be safe.

It's the same with sex. Some people make that choice for various reasons and I'm not saying that it's good or bad either way but I would rather they have something available to them where they would not get pregnant or spread disease than them just wander off willy-nilly. You know?

yeah, btw, did I accidentally say I was in favour of abstinence until marriage in the post?

And as a sidenote, what's with all these people on the Escapist who have never had sex yet seem to deride it as some sort of useless, horrible, disease-spreading life-ruining activity only participated in by drunken rutting idiots? I'm seeing a rise in them recently, and it's a little bit worrying.

Haha, no I wasn't speaking of you I was speaking in generalities.

And it's probably due to 16 and Pregnant. Have you seen that show? It makes my ovaries shrivel up every time I see it. Honestly, they attribute some of the low teen birth rate to that show and I don't doubt it. *shiver*

Well, a low teen birth rate is alright by me, provided the teen was never going to go on to do anything highly productive anyway. Just as long as we can create "16 and pregnant - 20 years later" where the aforementioned teen is living in a tiny one-bedroom flat with their old teen sweetheart, who is now engaging in various affairs when he's not fighting and arguing with his wife due to the years of frustration and apathy coming to a head. That's until both of them take a break to fight their kids instead because they view them as the parasites who ruined their lives and took away their chances at living any of their dreams because they had to spend their prime years looking after the little shits, only for them to later become ringtone-obsessed drug dealers who continue to embarrass the rest of the working class with the notion that we're all just stab-happy thugs with cans of cheap, high percentage cider stuck permanently to our hands.

If that fails to scare them straight, we re-open the discussion on state-sponsored sterilisation.

Fun and informative. I'm sure there are quiet a few dudes who aren't going need their condoms for anything else any time soon. *rimshot*

Actually I'm kind of cheesed that so many people are falling in line to say "oh that's a good one the church sucks, lol" in the comments here, but that's just me.

EVERYONE, The Church is assuming that you are not having casual sex. The Church says No Sex Until Marriage. That is the position of the Church and why they do not like condoms for STD control, because you should only have sex with one person (your husband/wife).

It should be noted that the Pope did favor use of condoms when not used for contraception.

I also agree, condom do not always lower the infection rate if everyone is having causal sex. Things break, there is still 1-in-a-1000 chance (I think) of infection. but if you have sex with 200 people that is still 1-in-5.

Of course, I really do not care what non-Christians do with their lives.

I bought my friend condoms in the 7th grade as a joke that he was finally a man. I kept like 4 and filled them up in the bathtub, those things can carry A LOT of water.

I think believing in God and believing in People are two separate things. Thus, I don't give a crap what some random dude (no matter how old or how glorified) tells me is right or wrong.

Gilhelmi:
It should be noted that the Pope did favor use of condoms when not used for contraception.

I also agree, condom do not always lower the infection rate if everyone is having causal sex. Things break, there is still 1-in-a-1000 chance (I think) of infection. but if you have sex with 200 people that is still 1-in-5.

Of course, I really do not care what non-Christians do with their lives.

I gotta take issue with this.

A condoms effectiveness is generally placed at 99%. The reason is that there is 98-99% chance that sperm might somehow get around the protection (It might slip off or break from incorrect use).Now as you state the chance of getting HIV from a singular encounter of unprotected sex is 1 in 1000. This is an approximation and many factors weigh in on it. For men for example this chance is lower. Some specific forms of sex raises the chance. However these numbers are only estimates and it has to be understood that all it takes is once, no matter how unlikely it is.

Now to lower that chance to 1 in 5 you don't need to have sex 200 people. You need to have sex 200 times with an infected person. The number of infected persons in the US is estimated at around 1.1 million out if an estimated 310 million people. We can take away the children I assume so we are at 250 million people. So that chance of an encounter with an infected person is about 0.4%.

So if you had protected sex with 200 people there should be 1 of them that is infected. Then there is 1% chance that the condom doesn't work, and then a 0.1% chance of being infected (again effected greatly by circumstance). So around a 0.001% chance of infection. And this is assuming you are not choosy with your partners AND that the infected partner is willing (an estimated 50% of infected are now aware of the infection).

So in closing: The risks are minuscule but they are real and the "prize" for winning is death, so be careful. Abstinence will save your life but if you are not going to refrain from sex then at least remember the condom, and choose your partner with care.

Scarecrow 8:
This is why the pope really pisses me off.

You think that's bad, in his recent end of the year speech the Pope blamed secular society for the molestations committed by priests. That's right, according to him, its societal values towards sexual deviants (he even claims that people are becoming open to 'child pornography' and pedophilia) that are causing HIS employees to rape Catholic children. The stupid hurts so much. The best part is, some people actually believe it, my mother's Catholic and she completely agrees with him. This is just getting bloody crazy.

Links: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101220/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_church_abuse

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/909614--pope-urges-church-to-reflect-on-sex-abuse?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Straying Bullet:
Hilarious. Especially the part with the submarine part, can you really expand a condom and use it to choke someone to death like that?

It's possible....considering the size....Guess I won't be stopping any terrorists... :(

Get the soda with TEETH KILLING POWAA

Gilhelmi:
EVERYONE, The Church is assuming that you are not having casual sex. The Church says No Sex Until Marriage. That is the position of the Church and why they do not like condoms for STD control, because you should only have sex with one person (your husband/wife).

Sadly we all know that still doesn't prevent the risks of other STDs, however the Vatican really likes to condemn and judge and tell others how to live.

Sorry, but that's how I see it...every religion has its zealots.

but I guess it's save to say that no one expected...BOOM

Wow, the war on HIV is much more dangerous than I had previously assumed. I guess that we all took for granted that HIV was a kind of virus when it's in fact a terrorist group?

Is it just me or did the "Cardinal" look suspiciously like the Vault Boy from Fallout?

Also, hilarious. The current Pope may be a dickhead, but at least he's good for a laugh or two.

I enjoyed the comic, but what the fuck is doing on this site?

Not impressed with that.

The pope looks like a Fallout Perk icon.

When the Catholic church is no longer synonymous with child molestation, then I might listen to what they have to say. Abstaining until marriage is no guarantee that STDs wont be contracted or transmitted either.

If you want total protection, you need those giant body condoms from the first Naked Gun movie. I bet they would have a few more uses too.

Hithlain:
I would rather they have something available to them where they would not get pregnant or spread disease than them just wander off willy-nilly. You know?

This is the idea of harm minimisation versus zero-tolerance. Like how there are safe injection centers for drug users even though some might think they encourage drug use.

Welcome to the House of Fun, my friends. Now that you've come of age.

That thing is creepy as hell!!!!! (killing panel.)

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

i see absolutely nothing wrong with anything that atheist has stated. i have exactly the same views as him. care to explain what bugged you so much?

Do you see what happens!?! Do you see what happens when you f@#$ a stranger in the ass, without a condom !?!

They missed out using them as makeshift surgical gloves when fishing around inside bullet wounds...

I also chuckle at the gift given to the pope on his visit to the UK, a painting by Holbein (IIRC) of the first Protestant king of England. Heh...some subtle subtext there eh?

or for using them as blood pacts for special effects in movies. Yea that was a pretty awkward trip to the gas station.

He is an evil evil man.

Zhukov:
That was hilarious.

Although I'm not sure what exactly it was reacting to.

(Gah! Grammer, I mourn your passing.)

IIRC (and one of the satirical political shows I watch is right) the pope said recently that condoms to control aids were okay for MALE prostitutes, but anybody else doing it can go to hell.

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

lol are you implying he said something wrong?

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

1. Sex is meaningless into today's world.

OT: This made me laugh. Not sure why they made it(I don't watch any news things <.<) but it was nice :D

Straying Bullet:
Hilarious. Especially the part with the submarine part, can you really expand a condom and use it to choke someone to death like that?

Why don't you Ask Howie Mandel? He had a whole stint in the 80s where he'd put one on his head.

wait...I think it was a rubber glove. Screw it, he had to of run out of gloves eventually. I'm sure he used a condom once... on his head...that he breathes out of.

OT: That was just too damn funny. New Years Day is making out to be a good year already.

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

Sexual repression is not healthy.

Mr Companion:

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

Yeah I know what you mean, just doing something because its a physical bond of passion before god approves is ridiculous. Anyway im sure you would like me, I dont even do sex at all.

Here's a tip: Cause it feels good?

Deshara:

Mr Companion:

zombie711:
I used to know an atheist, who would say "why doesnt the church allow condoms, its so stupid". I would reply why dont you just not have sex until your married? he replied, why would I do that? The conversation ended shortly after that. ( also Im not saying all athiest are like that, just that one person)

Yeah I know what you mean, just doing something because its a physical bond of passion before god approves is ridiculous. Anyway im sure you would like me, I dont even do sex at all.

Here's a tip: Cause it feels good?

Here's a tip: I was being massively sarcastic?

Gilhelmi:
It should be noted that the Pope did favor use of condoms when not used for contraception.

I also agree, condom do not always lower the infection rate if everyone is having causal sex. Things break, there is still 1-in-a-1000 chance (I think) of infection. but if you have sex with 200 people that is still 1-in-5.

Of course, I really do not care what non-Christians do with their lives.

1 in a 1000 chance for each of the 200 people doesn't not mean a 1 in 5 chance your infected.

Also it depends on the brand of the condom if it will break the first time.

jp201:

Gilhelmi:
It should be noted that the Pope did favor use of condoms when not used for contraception.

I also agree, condom do not always lower the infection rate if everyone is having causal sex. Things break, there is still 1-in-a-1000 chance (I think) of infection. but if you have sex with 200 people that is still 1-in-5.

Of course, I really do not care what non-Christians do with their lives.

1 in a 1000 chance for each of the 200 people doesn't not mean a 1 in 5 chance your infected.

Also it depends on the brand of the condom if it will break the first time.

You are right. It was late and i reversed things in my head thank you

D Moness:
Laughed at the water carrying option(also the strangling someone with a condom>.<)

One other thing is it me or does the females in the comic getting bigger boobs?

One can only hope :)

That said, I hope that these Cory and Greg reveiw Brink when it comes out. It is shaping up to be awesome.

Pfft, who wants to have safe sex when you can use condoms to have a nice, wholesome, Christian water balloon fight instead?

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