289: My Nintendo Shame

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Aura Guardian:
That article was annoying to read because you reminded me of those "fans"


Nintendo isn't to blame.

Oh god. Engrish is so funny...

OT:

Nintendo didn't abandon the Wii, so much as the quality third party publishers did. They finally learned that they aren't getting any sales in the sea of shovelware.

Yeah, Nintendo wheels out the same old franchises, which sucks. But the games are always good. From Epic Yarn to Galaxy 2, this was actually a good year for the Wii.

And most of Miyamoto's new IP work sucks, like Nintendogs and Wii Music.

Pikmin was the last new IP the man created that was really worthwhile.

Onyx Oblivion:
and Wii Music.

I deny that game ever being released. For me it went into development hell.

Not like sony is milking it's popular franchises(6 god of war games in the last 6 years, 7 jack and dexter games in 10 years, 14 Gran Turismo in 14 years and shall we take a look at singstar or shall we forget about that). It is not that i do not agree with the fact that nintendo's first party games are from old and very milked franchises but they are NOT the only one doing that.

This is pretty much why my Wii is collecting dust.

While I'm out of practice of defending Nintendo anymore on their business side, the thing that keeps me coming back is that when they do focus themselves to a game for the more serious gamers, the games are good. They're exactly as good as the games we remember, and occasionally better. For a company whose top tier list focuses mostly on platformers, Nintendo has those down to a shine. The IP's that aren't in that category have not shown much return, and are hard to get enough interest garnered for the characters and stories. There is a solution, though.

We have to wait until the next Super Smash Bros comes out, and as a hidden character, easily unlocked, a new character is introduced. Follow up the release of Smash Bros with the release of that characters game, very shortly after (but give it enough dev time). If a good looking Fire Emblem game was properly marketed, we'd be interested. A new Mother title? We'd be all over that. Kid Icarus is finally coming back, and the recent Kirby and Donkey Kong titles mean they do remember how to cater to our tastes (even if they forgot we like intelligent voice actors with Other M). There is still hope, but it will take effort on both sides.

The wii goes next to unplayed in my house. I don't regret buying one, though. I'm still left with plenty of gems like Punch Out, Mario Galaxy, Monster Hunter Tri, and so on. It's a shame it gets so much crap and shovelware, but the 360/PS3 have their own walls of crap.

Toriver:
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You said everything I wanted to say, only with more depth and insight. Thank you. :)

edit - additionally, I want to add that my wii and ps3 both receive the same amount of loving care when it comes to keeping them shiny and free of dust. I may not play the wii as often as the ps3, but it's still there for me when I'm feeling in the type of mood that requires cutesy.

Man companies would pay up the butt for indoctrination such as this. Its what they all strive for, so happens Nintendo has achieved said goal in this case XD

squeakthedragon:

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The Xbox and Playstation platforms have the elite hardcore market wrapped up, and they always would have; had Nintendo released a "hardcore" platform like the Gamecube this generation, they would have just about failed.

In a sense, the real mistake with the Wii was perhaps an unavoidable one; even Nintendo didn't project this kind of runaway success, and so were very conservative about what they invested into the development and manufacturing of the base design, and into their online infrastructure. If they could have been more certain it'd go over so well, I'm willing to bet we would have seen a Wii with a bigger jump in hardware power, and more money put into a comprehensive online support network.

But Nintendo is purely a game company; they have nothing to fall back on if they bleed money. A single mistake - such as a Wii that they couldn't break even on - could have ruined them.

This is why I have a hard time taking people like the article writer seriously. Nintendo made a console with the same power as the competition and with the benefit of having Zelda's and Mario's with the Gamecube, and they still lost badly to Sony and Microsoft. Do people honestly believe that if they'd made their system to the same specs as the 360, forcing them to sell at a loss and likely scaring off the casual market with it's much higher price tag, that they'd be anything but bankrupt by now?

Nintendo did what they had to do to survive, and they did it with a great deal of success. Which using foresight will hopefully mean the can compete more toe to toe the next time around with megacorp giants Sony and Microsoft. But of course the fickle gaming crowd will complain regardless of what you do so there's no helping that.

D Moness:

Onyx Oblivion:
and Wii Music.

I deny that game ever being released. For me it went into development hell.

Not like sony is milking it's popular franchises(6 god of war games in the last 6 years, 7 jack and dexter games in 10 years, 14 Gran Turismo in 14 years and shall we take a look at singstar or shall we forget about that). It is not that i do not agree with the fact that nintendo's first party games are from old and very milked franchises but they are NOT the only one doing that.

Making a series with sequals hardly counts as milking. It's not like we have a :Kratos Party, Kratos Kart, Kratos Soccer, Kratos Baseball, Kratos Sports, Kratos Tennis, and Kratos DDR. Now that is milking. Telling a story isn't milking. Continuing a series isn't milking. Endless Mini Game compilations and sports games featuring characters from games is milking.

And there are not 14 Gran Turismos. You're thinking of the modified Japanese only versions of GT3. GT HD for the PS3 was cancelled. There aren't even 14 games with the GT name on them...

Singstar is a franchise so calling thaqt milking is stretching it.

I could easily call Half-Life 1, 2, 2 Episode 1, 2 Episode 2,and 2 Episode 3 milking by your logic.

And what you call milking isn't Sony making these games. Those games are all made by different 2nd party companies.

I'm sorry but the fact that there are More Mario party games than Ys games really has me shaking my head. (10 Mario Party Games in 12 Years vs. 8 Ys games in 25 years.)

AzrealMaximillion:

And what you call milking isn't Sony making these games. Those games are all made by different 2nd party companies.

All titles are first party companies (i rechecked that).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment#Software_development_studios
The games i named are from internally owned studios (first party companies)

as for GT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_%28series%29

Oh and jak and daxter has racing games (and together with 2 other games will be re-released to use with move) so yeah looks like milking in my eyes as well

edit: and except for melee and brawl if you look like that only Mario is the milked franchise since all the other games have (except for brawl /melee) been what they have been from day 1.

D Moness:

AzrealMaximillion:

And what you call milking isn't Sony making these games. Those games are all made by different 2nd party companies.

All titles are first party companies (i rechecked that).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment#Software_development_studios
The games i named are from internally owned studios (first party companies)

as for GT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_%28series%29

Oh and jak and daxter has racing games (and together with 2 other games will be re-released to use with move) so yeah looks like milking in my eyes as well

You literally must not have read what I said about GT being a series and thus isn't milking. And literally half of the secondary GT titles are Japan only releases. One of them was even cancelled. There's not even 14 GT games listed. You should read your wikipedia links before you post them.

You also must not know anything about what the term, "2nd Party company" means either. Yes that wonderful wikipedia list of yours does post companies owned by Sony. But that's pretty much the only involvment that Sony has with those companies. There is also a list of companies on your link that aren't even owned by Sony, but are called "Second Party Studio Partners". These companies are nothing but frequent Sony collaboraters. Level-5 being on that link has made games for other platforms. Can you say, Proffessor Layton? How about Dragon Quest 9?

And this line,

Oh and jak and daxter has racing games (and together with 2 other games will be re-released to use with move) so yeah looks like milking in my eyes as well

. is incorrect when your talking about re-releasing with the PS Move. That's a collaboration title with Sly Cooper, and Rachet & Clack called PS Move Heroes. It's a brand new game featuring all characters from those games.

Further evidence that you did not read into your own info. Just posting up wikipeda pages doesn't make you look like you kow what you're talking about.

I used to be a hardcore nintendo fan back in the day and the more and more I think about it, damn It's not me it's them. My whole love of what nintendo is, is my childhood. Unfortunately I just don't care about the babied down directing my titles are going. I'm not entirely saying I want a mario Noir, no actually do that it might get you out of the deepest chasm like rut you've been in since forever my dear nintendo. The controls just suck outright, hardcore, and maybe a few titles do it right, but I could entirely care less because everything on the wii has fuzzy rosey nintendo goggles on where everything gets +2-3 points for being nintendo.

There are some good wii games, nmh, monsterhunter tri, but don't tell me they wouldn't have been laughed off the stage on another console.

JoJoDeathunter:
There are still some good Nintendo games, you just have to wade past the crap. I think currently a lot of the games are held back by the limitations of the console itself, which while may have been an advantage a few years ago to keep the price down but now it's main competitors are also cheap begins to look a bit 2nd rate. Also I agree Nintendo probably does need a couple of new franchises to keep things fresh.

This, more or less. I disagree that the hardware is a problem. One problem is that the Wii tries to do the same stuff as the Xbox and PS3. The Wii needs to be the most individual console while the other two just release the same games with a few extra features or exclusives to mix it up a bit. It needs to go at it's own pace (I never saw a problem 2D graphics, anyway) and do it's own thing.
The other main problem was already covered by you: Sturgeon's Law. Nintendo produces a lot of shitty licensed games. The only system that does it more is probably the DS (but I still will never trade it in for PSP).

Aura Guardian:
That article was annoying to read because you reminded me of those "fans"


Nintendo isn't to blame.

I haven't lol'd for so long in a while. Thanks for that.

Nerdfury:

Electrogecko:

Nerdfury:
I know how you feel, Briana. I bought the Wii because I like Nintendo, but the only Wii games I have for me and me alone are Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy. All my other games are divided into two kinds: Games I bought on the cheap (like, ten bucks or so or free via a gift card) without knowing if they were good (and usually aren't), and games that I bought for multiplayer. And even those I don't touch outside of when friends or family come around.

Honestly, it's sad. I skipped the GameCube generation in favour of PS2, and returned to Nintendo to have, since launch date, a total of two games I play for myself.

If you truly skipped the Gamecube, then you should have an ass-ton of good games to play on your Wii. (for cheap too if you can find them)

And there are also PLENTY of great Wii games if you do your research and have an open mind.

I did get Wind Waker, because I'm an incredible Zelda fan, but I'm not specifically aware of what games are good or not for GameCube. Considering my main Nintendo loves are Zelda and Mario, I think I'm a little limited. Would definitely appreciate suggestions based on my interests, though!

As for good Wii games, there's undoubtedly good ones.. but of the 15 or so I've got, I only really got into, enjoyed, and kept Mario Galaxy (getting 2 soon), Twilight Princess, SSB:B, Mario Kart. The rest I sold without bothering to complete.

There's others I've played with my brother-in-law, too, but those are all multi-player and I don't tend to want multiplayer games for myself. Hence why I said that the only games I kept that aren't those few, I only got for multiplayer.

Again, I'd love some suggestions for other great Wii games!

It might not be popular to say since it's a "cute" RPG, but I loved a game called Opoona. The entire thing is played with just the nunchuck and retails new for something like 4 bucks. Castle of Shikigami III is another cheap game but is a fun bullet hell title. I have 14 Wii titles but of those the two mentioned along with Metal Slug Anthology are the only ones I really play (I don't sell or trade in games and all of mine were gifts from people).

The thing is that while the Wii has sold great, how many people who have bought it are going to be turned off from Nintendo's next system because they aren't getting the games they want this time around? While it may be a misnomer or not, a lot of the current Wii owners are first time gamers, once they have played Mario and Zelda is there any proof they will come back and spend another $200-$300 on a new system to play what they may perceive as the same games? Or, will they take that same amount of money and buy the new Xbox or Playstation that offers games they haven't played yet? I can't tell you the number of times my friends at Gamestop have to explain to Wii owners that they can't get Grand Theft Auto or Halo for the Wii.

Will those same customers buy the next Nintendo and hope that they can play the games they want to? Buy the systems they know have them? Buy all of them? Or in the worst case scenario for the industry, buy none of them. That's not just Nintendo's fault since exclusives are as old as the medium, but it is their fault for not having the foresight to make a system with the abilities to at least be on par with the others for 3rd party games.

This really is a problem that Nintendo has made for itself. Honestly, I wouldn't care if Nintendo never made a home console again as long as they keep up what they do with their handhelds. Still, it seems that going after the casual market has turned many of them into the core demographic that they seemingly ignore, which will bite them in the ass down the line.

I couldn't read this entire article since it stinks of self-entitlement. Would someone please give me the tl;dr version?

Last time I checked,people loved NES because they were either kids or there were no other games to be played.
Not liking the Nintendo games now is the same that you don't like noddy because you have grown up.

Yeah I gave up in the Wii December of 2006. I thought this console generation was going to be like previous where there was a debatable console war.

This turned out not to be true. For the first few years the console war was completely dominated by the Xbox 360, which offered the best new console-exclusive franchises to hardcore gamers (GoW, Mass Effect). And the funny thing is, the only Wii games I actually enjoyed playing in that time frame was Wii sports and Wii Play.

I eventually just sold my Wii to a friend.

Nowadays maybe things are more even keeled in so far as the "console" wars are going, with the 360 in a price range that is reasonable and a number of real games coming out for the Wii. But I've become a 360/PC gamer and won't be buying any Nintendo gizmos until the next generation, most likely.

it's not...BAD, but it is misguided. I myself have been a Nintendo stalwart for YEARS. And I don't feel abandoned by Nintendo due to their focus on expanding the admittedly fickle and narrow audience that is gaming. Nintendo makes just as many games for their systems as they always have. If I were to place a blame on ANYONE for the lack of "hardcore" software on the system, I'm going to blame the 3rd parties who don't put any freaking effort into it. There are exceptions like Vanillaware, Grasshopper Manufacture, and XSeed, but most of the BIG name publishers just throw something out there in the hopes of making a quick buck and the title they made usually turns out to be crap.

Does the lady realize that literally EVERY franchise she mentioned that is "new" has at least two games in its franchise already? And except for Uncharted and Gears, everything else is getting one-a-year, two-a-year releases and being milked constantly.

I love my wii, of course, I only use it for homebrew programs such as watching movies and the original NES emulator.

BrunDeign:
Does the lady realize that literally EVERY franchise she mentioned that is "new" has at least two games in its franchise already? And except for Uncharted and Gears, everything else is getting one-a-year, two-a-year releases and being milked constantly.

But Nintendo is much better at milking franchises you have to admit.
Since the Wii launched I've been saying that they need to bring us a new mascot. Link, Samus, & Mario are cool but those of us who grew up with those characters need a new and more mature mascot. Someone who shoots people with guns, makes large explosions, and curses like a sailor.
I buy maybe one wii game a year. There should be more I want.

Well, the article deosn't exactly describe my feelings for the Actual Company known as Nintendo, but it's pretty damn close. (i have finally sold my Wii to my parents at the end of 2009)

Just that i don't flock to there titles any more. I just see if i cen get something of the same quality on tzhe 360 then i decide if i want to write the Nintendogame's name onto my "get it later" List.
So far not many have managed that althougth i would have Hailed approbiately them in past times.
Wich means not in a blind way.
I was never really a fanboy, always gazed and aknowledged that there were amazing games on every console.
But it is this not beeing blind wich makes me unable to look past it's biggest flaws, that Nintendo apparently isn't really trying to bring up really new and fresh experiences.

As an Example: I really loved Legend of Zelda - Twilligth Princess. It was epic and immersive.
But God Damn It, the world was still mainly static and like a beautifull picture, you can look at it a long time but more sooner then later it just got boring.

Wind Waker's world felt WAY more dynamic and alife than that of Twilligth Princess and that's just a shame.

I admit that my gaming capabilities have dropped significantly in the past few years. I own a Wii, but it's currently sitting in a bag at my boyfriend's house because I can't use my TV to play games at home without my mom unceremoniously turning the screen off while I'm in the middle of gaming, nagging at me every 5 minutes that I'm "wasting my time". But my Wii library is actually pretty strong, with not a single game I disliked. I even took a chance on some 3rd parties! No More Heroes was a fun hack n slash romp. Rune Factory Frontier was the best farm sim/dungeon crawler I've played, with vibrant visuals that are simple yet engaging. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn was my favourite FE game to date and the battle save made longer campaigns a lot more manageable (as well as enabling Nintendo to push the game's difficulty up), Metroid Prime 3 capped off a great trilogy with a control scheme that helped the person hopelessly unable to master dual analog (ie myself) play a FPS-Adventure fusion game. Wii Sports was one of the few games I can still play with my dad since his arthritis makes it difficult for him to use a traditional controller, and he doesn't have the dexterity level or hand-eye coordination to master dual analog to play the FPS games he used to like so much in the N64 games. New Super Mario Bros Wii may feel like a rehash in single-player mode, but it is a cruel, merciless game designed to destroy friendships and thus is pulled out at all get-togethers to see how far we can get without resorting to throwing each other into spiked walls or bottomless pits. You honestly can't replicate that same mischievous feeling with online play. Super Mario Galaxy and Galaxy 2 redefined the scope of possibilities of 3D adventure games, and I was glad to see that the games were more streamlined and stage orientated than Super Mario Sunshine's enormous (and sometimes overwhelming) sprawl.

Sure, I miss out on games like Halo or Modern Warfare, but coupled with a PC, I don't really feel like I'm missing much. And I've only touched on games I've played, when my friends are fervently discussing Trauma Team, Sin and Punishment 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Red Steel 2, Kirby's Epic Yarn (which abandoned Kirby's usual schtick so much that Kirby is really only used for familiarity's sake for the box art), and Donkey Kong Country Returns. And if you've been tracking all the games I've mentioned, the variety of genres is huge! Hack n Slash, Dungeon Crawl/Farm Sim, Turn-based strategy, FPS Adventure, Sports, 2D Platformer, 3D Platformer, Surgery Sim/Visual Novel, Rail Shooter, and MMO were all mentioned, even before I repeated genres. Whereas the article didn't seem to point out all the big-name games they were listing off were just FPS or adventure games. I remain unconvinced that the author of this article really gave the Wii a chance, instead lingering on EA's and Ubisoft's shovelware. I certainly wish that the Wii weren't my ONLY console, but the backlog of games on my PC, DS, PSP and PS2 are also so huge I can afford to bide my time waiting for the golden releases on the Wii. Throw in the concept of holding down a job and going to school, and suddenly that game library doesn't seem so sparse.

I stopped supporting the Wii a little after I got into college. I was a major supporter of the system from launch where I purchased it day one where I bought into the hype and took my closest friends with it. It represented our desire to see nintendo reclaim glory just after the gamecube era where Nintendo fell into third place and now we would see nintendo reclaim it's number #1 spot - No matter what...

That was years ago, the zealous fanboy who would spread that idea is no more. I pawned the gamecube to buy Twilight princess at launch and felt my first moment of disappointment that I hid from my friends for a long time. I won't extend on all the things I felt from it but by the time Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and finally New Super Mario Bros. Wii came out, I couldn't deny how much disappointment I felt for all the Wii had to offer.

I've held back from admitting what the Wii was at launch and what it is now. I could go on longer and flesh out several things mentioned above and will try hard not bash it but it's just not worth it. I don't demand it to change. I do see Nintendo differently from then and I find it ok. I've moved on from depending on Nintendo to shine through. I held back from so many details and thoughts of every thing I could throw into those spoilers but feel that mentioning it doesn't deserve a bigger wall of text once expanded (or looking at it now).

For those who read it, take what you will from it. I don't feel everyone should stop supporting the Wii altogether. I can do that on my own. Simply put, I'm not impressed with their recently past releases and certainly am not with their newer ones. For those that are, feel free to continue. For those who are hopeful about Nintendo's future, I wish you peace in doing so but I will wait.

This article was irritating to read. The writer is being fickle. The complaints don't even have to do with Nintendo at times. Lack of 3rd party support for the wii is only evidence of a crappy narrow games industry, not the fault of Nintendo. I thought we were done with this kind of shit 2 years ago.

I forgot:
This article was irritating to read. The writer is being fickle. The complaints don't even have to do with Nintendo at times. Lack of 3rd party support for the wii is only evidence of a crappy narrow games industry, not the fault of Nintendo. I thought we were done with this kind of shit 2 years ago.

No. It doesn't have to do with a narrow games industry but rather just poor communication between both sides. Developers would love to make a game on the wii (look at it this way. The biggest console base in the world is, the Wii). They ask for easier tools to work with, ability to port, an interactive online component for updating material and DLC. Nintendo doesn't feel like it needs to offer any support because it is already has the biggest pie of the console market so the developer should feel privaleged they get to be a part of it. Whereas developers feel the other way around and instead that attitude deters them from producing games on that system.

But the reality is, it is all about money. If I made a game for xbox 360, I have the tools to easily port it to PC and PS3. I also get support selling my game for the xbox / PS marketplaces and I can get support for my game from Steam for PC (steam is a very cheap reliable way to distribute your games). If I made a game for Nintendo, I can't do that

I fell out of Nintendo around the Gamecube time when the Ps1 was released. I too had loved Nintendo for many a year, but when the Ps1 was released with lots of RPG games, I moved over. Sure the DS has RPGs, but there are way too many games for me to catch up on and even then I don't like playing on a handheld.

But what they have done with the Wii has changed Sony and MS, so I don't deny they have had success with bits of innovation. I guess I want to relive the NES/SNES days today.

It's nice to hear someone else talk ill of Nintendo rather than defending every single thing they do despite how god awful it is.

My Wii basically feels like a great big paperweight these days. Had it since launch day, can't even remember the last time I used it. Probably when SMG2 came out.

I suppose I should thank Nintendo though, they raised my early gaming habits and if it wasn't for their awful business plan now, I would never have bought a 360 and PS3.

Briana Lawrence:
The gaming world passes Nintendo by, offering things that the company hasn't touched - DLC, online gaming

Portable consoles that rely on WiFi for online play are one of the most pertinent examples. No wonder smartphones have gained so much ground over the past years. As someone with a life that does not make many allowances for gaming bouts, I've noticed first-hand just how convenient and fun being able to play online with my pals on the bus, while waiting, or between meetings can be.

As a tech journalist with a focus on smartphones, this first-hand experience has turned into an awareness of a whole culture of gamers, both casual and hardcore, new and old, who want access to multiplayer experiences all the time, regardless of circumstances. For this reason, among others, this article strikes a note, though the lack of handheld console connectivity is not limited to Nintendo alone...

Aw, this is actually quite sad. My first console was a PS1, but I always wanted a N64. Never got one. I have an emulator now but its not the same. I have a PS3 though and that is the best console for getting new and interesting IPs. We have a Wii...somewhere...probably in a cupboard. Only comes out when my girlfriend comes to stay but then again she is leaning towards guitar hero and cinematic games like uncharted...sorry Nintendo, but you signed your soul away for money.

Onionman:

I forgot:
This article was irritating to read. The writer is being fickle. The complaints don't even have to do with Nintendo at times. Lack of 3rd party support for the wii is only evidence of a crappy narrow games industry, not the fault of Nintendo. I thought we were done with this kind of shit 2 years ago.

No. It doesn't have to do with a narrow games industry but rather just poor communication between both sides. Developers would love to make a game on the wii (look at it this way. The biggest console base in the world is, the Wii). They ask for easier tools to work with, ability to port, an interactive online component for updating material and DLC. Nintendo doesn't feel like it needs to offer any support because it is already has the biggest pie of the console market so the developer should feel privaleged they get to be a part of it. Whereas developers feel the other way around and instead that attitude deters them from producing games on that system.

But the reality is, it is all about money. If I made a game for xbox 360, I have the tools to easily port it to PC and PS3. I also get support selling my game for the xbox / PS marketplaces and I can get support for my game from Steam for PC (steam is a very cheap reliable way to distribute your games). If I made a game for Nintendo, I can't do that

Developing for the wii is easier than the ps3 and the complaints about online updating and DLC almost nobody gets are weak and is a habit the industry needs to get out of. You can make good games and good selling games without any of those.
If it was about the money or the games, the industry wouldn't be making fourth string teams develop on the Wii that don't sell or making AAA teams develop on the HD consoles forcing them to play it safe by making the same games with competitive multiplayer because it's so expensive.

I grew out of Nintendo a long time ago. Great console for kids, but I'm not a kid anymore. I've gotten occasional enjoyment out of games like Boom Blox, new Super mario Bros Wii and Mario Galaxy.... but... those were all bought with my girlfriend in mind, and she hasn't had a system since SNES, so for her it's like picking up where she left off.

N64 was the last Nintendo to offer truly good mature gaming experiences like Conker, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and some of the wrestling titles. The Wii? It's a kid console, and that's exactly what they wanted it to be. Hell, look at how much they focus on the DS now. The Wii isn't even Nintendo's #1 console.

Mamzelle_Kat:
Man, I read this article and I couldn't stop thinking "that's exactly what's going on with me." I own a Wii. I've owned it since week 2. What Wii games do I have? Trauma Center, Twilight Princess, Super Smash Brawl. I think that's it. One of my friends offered to buy it from me since I haven't played it in years. I really want to, but then something inside me yells NO!!! What if something incredible comes out next month?? Also, you won't be able to play those Gamecube games you love so much!!

Truth is, there are some good titles on the Wii. I've meant to buy Metroid Prime 3 since i loved the first two, Donkey Kong Country Returns had some great reviews, and both Super Mario Galaxy's are some of the most creative platformers that came out in recent years. Problem is, for every one of these releases, something awesome came out on the Xbox 360. Something new.

Given the choice between two equally good games, one that is a great reiteration of a franchise and one that is an awesome piece of something never before seen... I'm going to pick novelty.

Needless to say that wasn't the Wii title.

Novelty? On 360? Enlighten me please.

rembrandtqeinstein:
When I see things like [quote]As if the goofy games weren't shameful enough, now I had to be lumped into the casual "girl gamer" category because of Nintendo's sudden campaign to skip Mario and Zelda in favor of some balance boards and yoga mats.

the only thing I have to say is "get over yourself". Who are these mythical people sorting you into the "girl gamer" category and why do you give two squirts about their opinion?

AMEN! Why is this writer letting sexist douchebags define her existence? I read to the end and noted that her name is "Briana" so she IS a girl gamer. Instead of getting all offended about being called WHAT SHE IS - why not just redefine the title and tell those people to stuff it?
This whole article riled on me. So Nintendo is making games that sell and bringing in a wider market. Instead of blasting Nintendo and the people who play "casual" games - why not be happy that stuff like this makes games more mainstream and acceptable. If games hadn't become more mainstream and sold well - does she even think that those big ticket complicated "hardcore" games she brags about would even exist in the first place? No, games would be an obscure corner market and there would be no budget for any of them.

Also, she complains the whole article about Nintendo making the same game over and over again - and yet she buys them all. Why would Nintendo stop making stuff that people buy?

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