Science Suggests We're Living in the Matrix

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Guys, guys, I think all of you are missing the big picture here.

Okay, what do we all use the internet for? That's right, porn. So, theoretically, the beings that created OUR universe would use THEIR internet for porn, too.

I think we all know what needs to be done now. If our universe really IS a giant simulation, then we need to scour the universe for the ancient super-porn made by our creators. And it will be glorious.

I always found the "infinite simulations theory" to be a fat load.

It makes the massive assumption that a race would, for some purpose, rather erase their lives and live in a simulation for eternity. Yeah, that sounds like something ANYONE would do... especially live in a simulation with crime and hatred and war and death. Totally sounds like something someone would do.

I mean, if this was a simulation, wouldn't it be idealized? I love my video games, but I'd never want to live in one. Wouldn't a race advanced enough to create perfect virtual reality be advanced enough to desire actual fulfillment?

Scrythe:
-Snip.-

1G0TP1NK8CIDB00TS0N ....

Now how to access the cheat menu?

Andy Chalk:

It may not be proof that we're living in the Matrix, but it is a pretty cool idea.

If by pretty cool idea you mean "ARGHH my childhood nightmares have become a horrific reality!", then yeah, pretty cool.

It's not true, I got into my car and drove to a place where I never would have considered going otherwise and there were no green wireframes.

Just told my boss to "dodge this".

I am sending this reply from the back seat of a police car.

so wait a minute some one took the time to make a simulation of the universe and this is the best they could come up with? Thats it how the fuck do we edit the code i need to make my self into a well endowed handsome mage/psychic.

Bobic:
I've always thought the whole Observer Effect (specifically relating to quantum physics) was evidence that we were living in a simulation. The fact that things only choose values (i.e. exist in a defined way) when we observe them. So if no-one is looking, things don't exist. Sounds an awful lot like they're saving on processing power to me.

Yeah, I've thought that for a long time. It's exactly the same thing as cars in old GTAs. I doubt we'll ever have definitive proof, unless a 'Mission Complete' textbox pops up across the universe.

TIME

WHAT IF TIME IS LIKE A DONUT, MAN

So, we're at the ass end of Oktoberfest, and this study was done by Germans. I think I'll wait and see what they say once they sober up for a bit ;)

Paraphrase from Robert E. Howard, "If reality is an illusion, I'm an illusion too, so it's all real to me."

bladester1:
Dear God! Its Star Ocean: Til the End of Time all over again!! /vomits. On another point was the ps3 international edition of star ocean: a new hope any better than the 360 version?

1. REALLY off topic don't ya think?

2. Yes, the PS3 version is infinitely better for many reasons. My favourite is your ability to turn it Japanese and not have to understand the godawful story. Good game though.

My brain just farted. Physics + me = potato.

I'm gonna go lie down now

TimeLord:
So who's our Neo?

The admin

Palademon:

TimeLord:
So who's our Neo?

It may sound like a boring answer, but probably any religious prohpet that did miracles, since that breaks the rules.

Are you saying that if I were to be debating in favor of Christianity, I could use the prospect of Jesus being Neo to explain miracles? I am going to have so much fun in the R&P forums now.

I honestly find this highly unlikely. There is another idea in physics that states that the only thing in the universe that can contain all the information about the universe is the universe itself, so the notion of some kind of supercomputer that simulates our whole universe seems kind of absurd in the face of that, at least if that computer is supposed to sit in a universe that's some kind of facsimile of ours, since it would have to be an enormous machine, as in, bigger than anything that could ever be built using every bit of matter in our universe.

So, Douglas Adams had it right all along? Quick everyone! 42! Now what's the question?

I, in fact, do NOT know kung-fu, ergo, this is all LIES

I always know goog....

Why would scientists bother recreating me typing in my room, alone, between wanks? Wouldn't they just simulate the important aspects of the world, or are we talking about a simulation to test how the world could have gone differently?

so,
ignoring the energy space logic and mathematical problems of running a computer that simulates a universe particle by particle and proceduraly generates all interaction instantaneously and concurrently..
and that this computer is capable of spontaneously generating, destroying and rearranging matter to simulate the universe it inhabits
there's a flaw with this idea, and it's pretty simple:

this is not how you describe a computer, this is how you describe the observable universe
everything is physically linked so it is a system, a system of substance
but it is certainly not a computer simulation because by definition a computer program has no observable substance beyond the logic it is made of

personally i think it's just a bizarre twist of logic that humans fall into that because the observable universe is built on blocks that it must be part of something bigger or else, because we build things from blocks too maby that's just how things are

besides, if some alien or super-sized human has nothing better to do than simulate me farting while i sleep in a mega reality engine then frankly he has more energy and free time than sense

Well, I was planning on relaxing and goofing off on the Internet, but I guess I'll just curl up into a ball of paranoia now.

TimeLord:
So who's our Neo?

Well there was this one fellow from Nazareth with a bunch of crazy ideas...

Anyways, it seems like Gnosticism was the right religion after all... Huh... Well... Guess we shouldn't have called them "filthy heathens" after all.

Anyone up for ascending to a higher plane of existence by abandoning the material world behind? I hear it's rather fun...

Innegativeion:
I always found the "infinite simulations theory" to be a fat load.

It makes the massive assumption that a race would, for some purpose, rather erase their lives and live in a simulation for eternity. Yeah, that sounds like something ANYONE would do... especially live in a simulation with crime and hatred and war and death. Totally sounds like something someone would do.

I mean, if this was a simulation, wouldn't it be idealized? I love my video games, but I'd never want to live in one. Wouldn't a race advanced enough to create perfect virtual reality be advanced enough to desire actual fulfillment?

What if this is their idea of fulfillment?

Gets you nothing but an infinite regress.
Pointless mental wankery.
Let's actually investigate this reality and if there are cracks in the "simulation", we'll find them.

What if the simulation is a simulation of how people react to discovering that we are being observed.

Skeleon:
Gets you nothing but an infinite regress.
Pointless mental wankery.
Let's actually investigate this reality and if there are cracks in the "simulation", we'll find them.

Bam. This.

Godol's incompleteness theorem by corollary negates the idea of simulationception.

Innegativeion:

I mean, if this was a simulation, wouldn't it be idealized? I love my video games, but I'd never want to live in one. Wouldn't a race advanced enough to create perfect virtual reality be advanced enough to desire actual fulfillment?

you are quite literally playing all the wrong games then.

every single person i know would fucking love it to live in the world of pokemon/star wars/mass effect.

seriously, how could you NOT want to live in some of those worlds?

First thing that comes to mind:

Well, that's...um...how do I put this...

Thank you, Rich Little doing a Howard Kosell impression, that's exactly what I was thinking!

Combine that with the earlier findings that there's an underlying code in the background of the universe that compensates for energy loss in transmission, that resembles a lot the same code used by web browsers to compensate for packet loss sent over the internet, and you've got a freegin sweet mystery to solve.

Oh, if only there were less morons killing each other and making the planet a living hell, this would be such a great goal for humanity.

Gilhelmi:
YES, PROOF OF GOD!!! OK, but really now. Think about it, someone needs too be on the "outside" observing our behavior. Wipe your memories while in the program too see how you truly behave, then send you too the appropriate "afterlife". This might even explain reincarnation (or rebirth), sending us through the "program" until we complete it (ie universe is destroyed).

I do not believe in this theory, But I do believe in God, and if this were true then the Master truly does have a good sense of humor.

That wouldn't make it much of a god, though, would it?

It's like saying "YES! The Demiurge exists!" Good for you, now what? It's not an infalliable god, it's not a moral authority and most likely does not interfere because that would kinda fuck up the point of simulation, but if it does, there is no telling whether it considers anything in this universe as more than data points and cannon fodder for testing and such.

Afterall, look at how the average player acts in "Black and White".

I call Bunk. If this is all a simulation than who made the original simulation? Also the fact that if we were merely simulations, it's unlikely that'd we'd have consciousness and self-awareness, but rather we'd just be going through our programmed routines.

this isn't new, i remember an old thing, some physicist wrote - and i'm probably mangling it a bit, but it made its way around the net and went something like:

if we assume there are other civilizations in existence

if we also assume that making something like the matrix is possible (a simulation so real that those in it are self aware and consider it to be reality)

If the above assumptions are true, then given enough time, many of the above civilizations will make use of this possibility and create one or many such simulations

and thus, for every 1 reality, there would be many such simulations. Many many such simulations. Lets call this number X. X = the number of such simulations in 1 reality.

So if you find yourself existing, your odds of being in reality are only 1/x.

So I guess this means Intelligent Design and Evolution are BOTH true. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go laugh at all the people who have been debating this issue for the last hundred years or so...

WEE HE HE HE HE HE *snort*!
WA HA HA HA HA! (falls off chair)

...ow...my back.

So... is there a code to make EA do the La Macarena? Just because.

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