I think EA/Bioware are blatantly trolling now.

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Abedeus:
Because if you don't buy Javik, you will never find out about how the Prothean Empire worked, what the Protheans were like, or current races years ago, why asari are so advanced, the truth behind their religions (and probably every religion of the past) and you have 1 out of 6 classes for teammates locked out.

All to cash in a little.

None of which is essential to understanding the story or playing the game, and some of which can be uncovered through other means.

For example,

makes it pretty easy to figure out why the Asari are so advanced, even without Javik being there to spell it all out for you you.

Heck, even in the very first game you can uncover evidence of just how closely the Protheans had been observing the species of the current cycle.

It's not at all necessary to have a biotic/combat-classed character, either - to say nothing of the fact that you can permanently lock yourself out of a biotic/tech character before the game even begins. It's possible to finish the game with an Engineer Shepard who let Kaidan die on Virmire and without From Dust - i.e. with a squad where Liara is the only biotic available. Honestly, the first game is the only one where all six class archetypes are represented (and represented evenly, no less) among Shepard's squadmates.

Next they'll be using the golden poo trophy as a reason to call Mass Effect "an award winning game"

idarkphoenixi:
Next they'll be using the golden poo trophy as a reason to call Mass Effect "an award winning game"

Yes. Get on it, PR. I want full fledged trolling at this point now.

dreadedcandiru99:
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That's one way of putting it, I guess. It's like how the Titanic provoked a bigger cruise line passenger reaction than any other ship in maritime history.

(captcha: "Gotham City." Awesome. That's a step up from the car ads, at least.)

Over 75 perfect scores bought and paid for! Challange everything, including good business practices!

EA twists and dements everything they touch ... be it a developer or statistics. This is just business as usual.

Abedeus:

Indecipherable:
Remember they are not changing the story because of integrity.

This whole thing is simply excruciating.

Javik/From Ashes.

What was that about integrity?

If you actually bring him on few missions (Asari planet, to name the most important), he says things that COMPLETELY change shit about Asaris, Protheans and their input in the development of races from current cycle. This isn't Kasumi or Zaeed that have one loyalty mission and few fun remarks on ship/during conversations, it's plot-relevant information. Frankly, during mentioned mission where Liara says "Beacon is probably reacting to the imprints in you, Shepard!" (paraphrased), to which Javik responds "Or the Prothean standing right here". It's basically implied that Javik was meant to be in the original game. Same with his comments on Thessia, about how the asari goddesses were actually Protheans uplifting and protecting asaris.

Either you keep "integrity" from start to end or you shut up. It's almost as dumb as the "It's art!" excuse.

I understand what you are trying to say, but IMO this isn't a good example.

The thing in is knowing the history of the Asari or how they became the most advanced race in the galaxy has very to no impact on the plot of ME3. While its nice to have this background info on the Asari it is for the most part irrelevant.

Now there is one scene involving Javik that is sort of important and that's the conversation you have with him about Legion. During this conversation Javik talks about the differences between synthetic and organic life and how he believes that conflict between the two will always be inevitable. In a way, you could say that this scene foreshadows a bit about the ending where it is revealed that the whole synthetics vs organics conflict is the reaper's primary justification for what they have done.

thememan:

Audacity:

Apparently the game is amazing. The last 5 minutes ruin it but the rest of the game is amazing. And like I've heard, the reason reviews are like that is because they don't play the entire game all the time. Only a majority of it.

Which is flat-out false. The game hover from the quite good to the quite bad and back again throughout. There are plenty of rough edges to the game, and it is hardly anything spectacular when viewed objectively. The only people describing the most of the game as amazing are infected with major fanboism. It's good, but hardly worth the amount of praise it gets. There are simply far better examples of what it does do well, and what it does wrong is simply irreconcilable with how "critically" acclaimed it is(None of the reviews I have read are either critical nor professional in the least, so I use the term loosely here). It's just an above average game that fails to impress much of the time.

That's the reason why I don't use reviews. The one thing that never comes into play in the reviews is Mass appeal. Imagine if all games were actually reviewed with the truth. No console specificity or advertisements. This will never happen though.

kyogen:
Where did you find that ad?

I found it on Reddit, but apparently Bioware emailed it out.

Zachary Amaranth:

5t3v0:
Well, you know what they say. There is no such thing as bad publicity.

If that were true, Ubisoft wouldn't have slashed their dev teams, EA wouldn't have addressed the Retake movement at all, and WWE wouldn't see stocks plummet based on fictional events.

Well there is one thing that all of those have in common: They all still exist, and we talk about it. I know its not the exact same as celebrities but even in infamy if a game company is still being talked about it means someone is buying their products. The ones that do just suddenly collapse? the seldom mentioned developers.

This is like when a movie reviewer is reviewing a movie and says "This film is a profoundly fantastic piece of garbage." and the studio behind the movie puts "profoundly fantastic!" on ads for the movie.

Oh dear God... I uninstalled ME3 and went off to play other non-EA games... I thought I had put this BS behind me, until now....

Oy vey, EA... >.<

I see so much anger and threads about Mass Effect 3, and so few of them are positive, it makes me kinda sad actually. I loved the game and thought that Bioware did and amazing job. They made these three fantastic games that have honestly changed how I see RPG's and all anyone talks about is the end, which while I'll admit had a lot of holes wasn't really that bad.

Bragging about people bitching isn't exactly a good advertisement.

The sad part is that if EA manages to get even one person to buy ME3 just to see what all this fan reaction regarding the ending is all about, then this marketing strategy worked for them.

You've got to admire their ability to turn a storm of fan-rage into an effective marketing campaign >.<

Mike Richards:

Stilt:
Should read "over 75 perfect scores after coercion"

Not to pick on you specifically, but this is a good example of the kind of reaction I'm talking about. Is it really so hard to believe that 75 people had a different opinion then you? I've seen so many people on here jump directly to discrediting the integrity of the reviewers for doing what reviewers do, and doing the same to the creators for having a different idea about how things should be done in what is first and foremost THEIR work. This is the kind of thing that makes us look immature, and the discussion about the ending would be much better off for all sides without it.

I had to jump in here. I am always suspicious when I see 100% scores because that means it is a "perfect" game. "PERFECT", as in why bother to make another game ever? It will never pull fans away from the "perfect" game that will never fall out of favor because it is "perfect". Add to that the shady business that goes on with advertising money and you have to wonder...

Bioware/EA.....generally the first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging.

Not get the backhoe out.

Next move for mass effect marketing: The ending explanation DLC is a lie!

Who else is willing to bet on this?

5t3v0:
Well there is one thing that all of those have in common: They all still exist, and we talk about it. I know its not the exact same as celebrities but even in infamy if a game company is still being talked about it means someone is buying their products. The ones that do just suddenly collapse? the seldom mentioned developers.

And EA is eating money on Mass Effect, the steroids scandal nearly killed WWE and drove away a lot of investors, and Ubisoft is projected to go under.

Should Ubisoft go under, does that mean there's no such thing as bad publicity? Part of the reason they're hemorrhaging is that they got so much publicity. The publicity is what's making it so hard for them to recover,has led to layoffs, and has led to further stock/profit issues and projection of failure.

This is a good thing simply because they're still alive? They're less alive than they were before the publicity.

Come on.

Zachary Amaranth:

5t3v0:
Well there is one thing that all of those have in common: They all still exist, and we talk about it. I know its not the exact same as celebrities but even in infamy if a game company is still being talked about it means someone is buying their products. The ones that do just suddenly collapse? the seldom mentioned developers.

And EA is eating money on Mass Effect, the steroids scandal nearly killed WWE and drove away a lot of investors, and Ubisoft is projected to go under.

Should Ubisoft go under, does that mean there's no such thing as bad publicity? Part of the reason they're hemorrhaging is that they got so much publicity. The publicity is what's making it so hard for them to recover,has led to layoffs, and has led to further stock/profit issues and projection of failure.

This is a good thing simply because they're still alive? They're less alive than they were before the publicity.

Come on.

I admit because I am tired and can't really keep this up I can't respond to much else, but that last bit took what I was saying out of context.

Its not neccesarily a good thing, but the point I was trying to get across is that despite all this controversy, the hatred spread, They are still alive and kicking, despite how every single internet comment is "FUCK EA IN THE ARSE".

Mass effect still sold a fuckton, and its not the only game they sell. They are still notable because as I said, despite their apparent universal hatred people still buy their games.

I doubt anyone involved in the making of this game had any say or design in this, this is a PR department or a 3P marketing agency.

5t3v0:

I admit because I am tired and can't really keep this up I can't respond to much else, but that last bit took what I was saying out of context.

Out of context my arse. The original context was "no such thing as bad publicity."

Its not neccesarily a good thing, but the point I was trying to get across is that despite all this controversy, the hatred spread, They are still alive and kicking, despite how every single internet comment is "FUCK EA IN THE ARSE".

And out of context, that sounds great. The point is, this has demonstrably hurt them. That publicity is the reason they're in trouble; stock prices dropped because of a combination of EA publicity over Mass Effect, the refunding of money on the game for PR, and lackluster performance of many other titles.

Quite frankly, this is bad publicity. The studios that have been shut down, contrary to your prior statement, do sometimes do so with an actual fanfare instead of quietly passing.

Mass effect still sold a fuckton, and its not the only game they sell. They are still notable because as I said, despite their apparent universal hatred people still buy their games.

And they are still hurting. Because of bad publicity.

BoogieManFL:
Seems intentionally misleading. Someone unknowing would go into that expecting something epic, only to be let down by a bland ending that leaves you with more questions and is full of plot holes the size of the sun.

To be fair, the game is still amazing, just with a crappy ending. Seriously, aside from the ending, it was easily the best game I've played this year so far, and nothing's come close to topping it.

I'm honestly shocked that even a marketing department would flip off the fans with an ad like that. I must wonder how this will affect their next game's sales. They haven't been hurt so far by all this negative publicity and seem hell-bent on remaining cold and aloof to their fans, so its anyone's bet as to whether their sales will take a hit with the next game.

Bioware's become a company with a reputation for dishonesty after this scandal, but how much will the average customer care?

This is a PERFECT example of 'trololololo-ing'.

And, it WORKS for them.

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You know what? Fuck it. Just ignore this. Im too pissed off at myself for being a general fucktard I don't even know why I bother trying to argue anything anymore.

I never thought I'd say this, but I love you EA games.
I really do.

5t3v0:
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You know what? Fuck it. Just ignore this. Im too pissed off at myself for being a general fucktard I don't even know why I bother trying to argue anything anymore.

If it helps any, I really wasn't trying to be combative. Arguing on the internet is tricky because it's hard to tell demeanor without an excessive amount of smilies. And even then...Well, I could paste a happy face and be sad or vice versa, so....

Zachary Amaranth:

5t3v0:
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You know what? Fuck it. Just ignore this. Im too pissed off at myself for being a general fucktard I don't even know why I bother trying to argue anything anymore.

If it helps any, I really wasn't trying to be combative. Arguing on the internet is tricky because it's hard to tell demeanor without an excessive amount of smilies. And even then...Well, I could paste a happy face and be sad or vice versa, so....

Well, thanks I guess. Was having a bad and anxious week and still to this day wonder why I was persisting with this thread...

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