Ridiculously unfair stuff in multiplayer

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Almost every paid-for gun in Combat Arms. I did a few of the free surveys they have available for Nx points and bought a 7-day Nx-only shotty, and my K/D went through the freaking roof.

Coincidently i finished my latest playthrough of Dark Souls today.

The last invader to come into my game had some pretty broken stats. My spear was doing 200+ damage against him and it was barely registering as chip damage. Then he backstabbed me from the front, and it was an instant kill.

Needless to say i was pretty pissed. After that i would simply quit to whatever passes for a dashboard on PS3 whenever someone tried to invade my game.

Next game i must try to have a greater focus on magics or miracles. Also should join Sunbro's and engage in jolly cooperation.

RJ 17:

The Wykydtron:
So just a little topic, ever had any insanely unfair games/sessions/team compositions etc etc over the course of your gaming career?

For me it's got to be the Invasion system in Dark Souls 60% of the time. Basically you use an item and you enter a random person's game world and try to murder the fuck out of him for lolz. You only invade upwards level-wise though so you're always supposed to be roundabout the same level as the guy you're invading

People start to abuse the leveling system by not leveling at all and getting end-game equipment (through glitches, getting gifted it or just beating the bosses) to absolutely destroy the newer players they just get matched with. Basically after just about failing a legit Invasion of mine (at level 6 with base eqiupment, naturally) I was then set upon by this guy with the most obcene set of end-game equipment i have ever seen.

Waved at him then quit to dashboard. Not losing my Humanity over such bullshit, and to be honest killing some random noob and taking their probably only Humanity, gains you fuck all and you've just ruined some guy's day...

Another problem comes in from people summoning other people to help fight you off, that on its own is fine, the host has to do whatever it takes to live because you're just waltzing into his game session and trying to ruin potentially hours of progress. But when are actually people summoning guys in advance to wait for your supposedly "random" invade and then ambushing you it starts to seem a bit broken.

Oh, and the Red Soapstone is a joke, never use it. It's meant to be a fair fight where you put your summons down, the guy takes you up on the challenge and you fight to the death. Instead he summons a fuckton of guys, summons you and they all just spawn kill you.

:P Sounds like you just don't like games that are built specifically for griefing. The funny thing about Dark Souls is that you don't need to be invaded, the game itself is quite proficient at griefing on its own. :P

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That's the thing, i've all but beaten the game now (final boss is a dick) and I think spending 90% of the game Hollow probably missed me half of the content that makes the game unique.

Once you get used to the game (takes about 50 hours XP) the enemies start to get less difficult since you can tank a load of hits with decent stamina, predict their movements and fishing for backstabs becomes second nature so upgrading to PvP/coop is probably where the rest of the fun in the game is going to come from for me.

I just wish it was less broken...

In the hands of a pro, the Sniper Rifle in Halo. If you don't have anything to at least harass him with, you're dead.

My own contribution would be the Ice Climbers in Super Smash Bros. Okay they're not that overpowered perhaps (though they're awfully quick for such a hard-hitting duo), but the fact that one of them can damage you while you can't damage her just strikes me as so damned unfair. That shit just ain't right.

Aircross:
Say it all with me now!

RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR

TF2, 95% ubercharge, A WILD CROCKET APPEARS!

And that's why a good team plays with Pyro's, and uses Snipers for that job instead of Soldiers. I just love ruining a Medic's day with a well-placed headshot. No need for randomness.

xptn40S:
Unfair stuff in multiplayer?

The first thing that came to my mind was Battlefield 3.

Indeed. I'm not sure whether it's because of the reason you stated, but 9/10 games I join has one team being completely pancaked by the other. There just barely seems to be room for some sort of middle ground, like, ever. That's why I barely play BF3 these days.

anthony87:
Noshahr canals on Battlefield 3.

If you're on the side that spawns on the carrier then prepare to have a whale of time trying to even make it to the docks as you're being sniped by soldiers, a tank or two and there's an enemy helicopter spawncamping and blowing up your helicopters. What do you do if your helicopters get destroyed?

....You take a boat. A little shitty thing that's just begging for a tank to blow it out of the water provided one of the snipers don't headshot your as you're driving it.

Very unbalanced map is basically what I'm getting at.

That used to be the case, but the BF3 community has really discovered the fixed AA gun on the carrier, letting the US team dominate that map's airspace relatively easy, ruining the RU's team's day. I've seen it happen so damned often. I mean really that gun can even pepper point B itself.

psilontech:
The plasma gun in Tribes: Ascend for about the five days before they fixed it. Your hitbox for the purposes of that thing hitting you was something along the lines of three to four times that of normal.
But then they fixed it and I was happily doing well in Arena again. Still a bit of a pain to play against, but nothing so insurmountable as it was before they fixed it.

People who intentionally cause lag in CTF of the same game. Pathfinder comes in and grabs the flag under guise of lag and you don't even get told about it until he's teleported 1/4 the way back to his base.

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Dark days, komrade.

Dark days.

I still say that tac/orb strikes are more broken than any plasma hitbox, jackal airburst, shrike ram, tech thumper, bolt launcher, sentinel, or whatever we're complaining is OP this week, though.

Daystar Clarion:

Aircross:
Say it all with me now!

RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR

TF2, 95% ubercharge, A WILD CROCKET APPEARS!

Fuck random crits.

Whoever thought that was a good idea has no concept of game balance.

I find random crits to be on my side on a 65% of the time and againstme 35%. But then again i mostly play heavy, so i can survive crits and if i get them i can also kill at long range.
HA

Flying a helicopter in battlefield 3. Getting kills covering the objective for you teammates to move up and spotting everyone you see. Dodging rockets and backing off if I get multilocked. Then a jet smashes into my rotor and he flies of while I'm sent careening towards the ground. Jump out and see my co-pilot eviscerated by the blades (bad luck) while I parachute deep behind enemy lines with no hope of rescue seeing as how my allies are bogged down on the beach. If I keep going I'll turn this into a pretty awesome story but that isn't the goal. Jet pilots. Stop flying into my helicopter. It's annoying.

CoD Killstreaks. They're unfairness incarnate.

Winning? Here, take those toys! You clearly need them!

Losing? Shut up and take it while the big boys are having fun, noob... Here's a speed boost so you get killed more quickly. Stop wasting our time!

marobidoux:
CoD Killstreaks. They're unfairness incarnate.

Winning? Here, take those toys! You clearly need them!

Losing? Shut up and take it while the big boys are having fun, noob... Here's a speed boost so you get killed more quickly. Stop wasting our time!

1. Well it's the good old: "Do good and get all the fun toys" mentality.

2. Some of the games have death streakes and people fucking hate them. Wonder why.

Ninja'd in the OP? Seriously? Damn.
Yeah, it's best to play Dark Souls offline. It seems to be a lot more immersive without all the signs around too.

NotSoLoneWanderer:
Flying a helicopter in battlefield 3. Getting kills covering the objective for you teammates to move up and spotting everyone you see. Dodging rockets and backing off if I get multilocked. Then a jet smashes into my rotor and he flies of while I'm sent careening towards the ground. Jump out and see my co-pilot eviscerated by the blades (bad luck) while I parachute deep behind enemy lines with no hope of rescue seeing as how my allies are bogged down on the beach. If I keep going I'll turn this into a pretty awesome story but that isn't the goal. Jet pilots. Stop flying into my helicopter. It's annoying.

please continue. that sounds like an awesome story.

krazykidd:
No one said this yet? Yay i'll be the first .

WESKER!
WESKER!
WESKER!

Really anyone that uses Wesker in UMVC3 doesn't care for a fair fight . Best tip i have recieved for dealing with wesker is , don't get hit ... EVER .

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

Aircross:
Say it all with me now!

RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR

TF2, 95% ubercharge, A WILD CROCKET APPEARS!

OH, HE GETS A RANDOM CRIT? WHY DON'T I EVER GET RANDOM CRITS? I KNOW YOU HATE ME AND LOVE HIM MORE, GAME, JUST SAY IT AND I'LL FEEL BETTER KNOWING THAT IT'S THE TRUTH.

Favorite weapons: Eyelander, Chargin' Targe, Sniper Rifle, Axetinguisher, Flare Gun, Degreaser, Kritzreig, Bushwacka... or, most weapons that utilize earning crits through technique over being handed one randomly (and some weapons don't even randomly crit at all). And when your technique is blown apart by a 4% chance that is aimed directly at you... fuck that.

While not a MP rant I do find that nukeing and nerfing stuff for Pvp when theres nothing wrong with the game but for whiny PvP players is a bit...disheartening. Its called make PvP follow its own set of rules, like reduce stuff 1-100% without messing with game itself.....it tends to make me stop paying for MMOs....

spawn camping.

that is so fucking cheap. and they dare to call your team noobs.

The Wykydtron:

And legit Invasions (both by me and against me) are actually pretty fun! Can you buy Cracked Red Eye Orbs from anywhere that's not the Darkwraiths? Because I really don't want to have to rush the Four Kings to get them... Ever.

Get high enough in the DW covenant and you get a pure Red Eye Orb that never breaks. Alternatively just go to the forest in human form or join the FHC.

The Wykydtron:

krazykidd:
No one said this yet? Yay i'll be the first .

WESKER!
WESKER!
WESKER!

Really anyone that uses Wesker in UMVC3 doesn't care for a fair fight . Best tip i have recieved for dealing with wesker is , don't get hit ... EVER .

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

There is not enough rage for wesker , until his health is nerfed . Let him keep his damage and his speed , and his godly assist , and his self OTG and his teleports . Just for the love of god , give him the same amount of life as strider or akuma.

krazykidd:

The Wykydtron:

krazykidd:
No one said this yet? Yay i'll be the first .

WESKER!
WESKER!
WESKER!

Really anyone that uses Wesker in UMVC3 doesn't care for a fair fight . Best tip i have recieved for dealing with wesker is , don't get hit ... EVER .

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

There is not enough rage for wesker , until his health is nerfed . Let him keep his damage and his speed , and his godly assist , and his self OTG and his teleports . Just for the love of god , give him the same amount of life as strider or akuma.

Or better yet, nerf his health down to Phoenix levels and watch as everyone drops him near instantly nyahahahaha! Usually i'd hate to see the bullshit nerf Phoenix got happen anyone else, but for Wesker... I'd have to make an exception XD

Oh just off topic for a sec, i'm still waiting for a Phoenix Wright to make an appearance in a tourney at some point... Seriously it's like nobody plays him except me. Apparently a character actually having quite a high learning curve equates to being low tier. Who knew?

putowtin:
EA's servers

Seriously every time I've play the ME multiplayer recently I get kicked off the server in the last 30 of the match

AAAHHHHHHHHH!

It's worst when it happends in the last 15 seconds of wave 11 on gold, almost makes me want to scream

The Wykydtron:
So just a little topic, ever had any insanely unfair games/sessions/team compositions etc etc over the course of your gaming career?

For me it's got to be the Invasion system in Dark Souls 60% of the time. Basically you use an item and you enter a random person's game world and try to murder the fuck out of him for lolz. You only invade upwards level-wise though so you're always supposed to be roundabout the same level as the guy you're invading

People start to abuse the leveling system by not leveling at all and getting end-game equipment (through glitches, getting gifted it or just beating the bosses) to absolutely destroy the newer players they just get matched with. Basically after just about failing a legit Invasion of mine (at level 6 with base eqiupment, naturally) I was then set upon by this guy with the most obcene set of end-game equipment i have ever seen.

Waved at him then quit to dashboard. Not losing my Humanity over such bullshit, and to be honest killing some random noob and taking their probably only Humanity, gains you fuck all and you've just ruined some guy's day...

Another problem comes in from people summoning other people to help fight you off, that on its own is fine, the host has to do whatever it takes to live because you're just waltzing into his game session and trying to ruin potentially hours of progress. But when are actually people summoning guys in advance to wait for your supposedly "random" invade and then ambushing you it starts to seem a bit broken.

Oh, and the Red Soapstone is a joke, never use it. It's meant to be a fair fight where you put your summons down, the guy takes you up on the challenge and you fight to the death. Instead he summons a fuckton of guys, summons you and they all just spawn kill you.

The most annoying thing is when someone invades and when you are about to beat them they sprint away and use the crystal to port out (They can run through mobs that are hostile to you)

I have had so many people do that, It's like 'You started it at least see it through!'

Teammates leaving part way through the match and being left with a two one six match with it balanced for the six on six match.

The Wykydtron:

krazykidd:

The Wykydtron:

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

There is not enough rage for wesker , until his health is nerfed . Let him keep his damage and his speed , and his godly assist , and his self OTG and his teleports . Just for the love of god , give him the same amount of life as strider or akuma.

Or better yet, nerf his health down to Phoenix levels and watch as everyone drops him near instantly nyahahahaha! Usually i'd hate to see the bullshit nerf Phoenix got happen anyone else, but for Wesker... I'd have to make an exception XD

Oh just off topic for a sec, i'm still waiting for a Phoenix Wright to make an appearance in a tourney at some point... Seriously it's like nobody plays him except me. Apparently a character actually having quite a high learning curve equates to being low tier. Who knew?

It's not the learning curb . Phoenix wright is only good after he gets all his evidence . And then you still need to get hit by him . Hes actually very easy to avoid . Since his movement sucks . Too much preperation needed, but if you manage to actually do it hes nigh unstopable . Also is his level 3 unblockable? Or it hits anywhere as long as you are touching a button? I guess you COULD make a team revolving around him , but it's pretty unreliable.

I'd love to see a phoenix wright , hsien-ko, strider team though . Plus another downside to phoenix write is ... Hes nOt wesker.

krazykidd:

The Wykydtron:

krazykidd:
No one said this yet? Yay i'll be the first .

WESKER!
WESKER!
WESKER!

Really anyone that uses Wesker in UMVC3 doesn't care for a fair fight . Best tip i have recieved for dealing with wesker is , don't get hit ... EVER .

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

There is not enough rage for wesker , until his health is nerfed . Let him keep his damage and his speed , and his godly assist , and his self OTG and his teleports . Just for the love of god , give him the same amount of life as strider or akuma.

I still can't believe he has that fucking sunglasses buff.

DARK WESKER RISING!

The USAS 12 w/ Grenade Shells in BF3... In an otherwise fairly well balanced game, it stands out as extremely OP. The Saiga or DAO-12 w/ Grenade Shells is alright, but you won't see it doing *that*.

The last time I recall something in a BF game being that out of whack was in BF: Vietnam (not bad company dlc), when the American support class had both a shoot-from-the-hip M60 and a Bazooka.

marobidoux:
CoD Killstreaks. They're unfairness incarnate.

Winning? Here, take those toys! You clearly need them!

Losing? Shut up and take it while the big boys are having fun, noob... Here's a speed boost so you get killed more quickly. Stop wasting our time!

Yup, killstreaks. I only played MW2 but they were disgustingly obnoxious.

Wasteland. Pavelow. That is all.

The way to be good at the game at that point is quite literally not to play it. Hide in a house in the corner of the map for two minutes doing jack shit, and that way you don't feed the enemy any kills to unlock further killstreaks. Sound like fun?

erttheking:
Gonna have to go with the Banshee in Halo Reach. It can be countered with a Scorpion or a Falcon, but on the maps where they aren't around that thing can be a real pain in the rear, dive bombing people and fliping around like the pilot has ADHD which makes it impossible to hit with anything other than a SPARTAN laser, and can instakill you with ease. Oh yeah, can the Guass Warthog.

Yes. Fuck guys to take the Banshee at the beginning of every game and proceed to use it for the rest of it. I even see people wait until they respawn so they can get dibs on them. It is one of those very rare instances where I'm tempted to team kill.

Also, this is most likely beaten to death, but the Ghost perk on Black Ops. Also using Lesnar on UFC. You're really just going to keep it on the ground game? Speaking of wrestling, people who use Randy Orton on WWE 12. His Punt finisher is unblockable! Totally unfair.

Unfair? Pay to win is the only thing that comes to mind. With most everything else it's usually not unfair, it's usually just people playing the metagame and/or pressing advantages where they can get them, regardless of whether it's considered "cheap" by others. But if the advantage is equally available to everybody to obtain then I see no reason to call it unfair.

Explosives in just about any shooter ever made. Particularly Call of Duty, where rockets kill you if they impact within 30 feet of you. Noob Tubers can go die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.

The flamethrower in Call of Duty: World at War. A guy online was just running around torching everyone on the other team. The one time I ragequit.

TheYellowCellPhone:
Favorite weapons:Axetinguisher, Flare Gun, Degreaser

Oooh, we should get along.

Sniper Rifle

Ah...nevermind. >:D

I do love how I pretty much stopped hearing people call the Pyro a noob class when the Degreaser arrived. I love that weapon. It makes playing the class so technical and satisfying. I always roll Flare Gun + Degreaser + Axetinguisher. Though that does make shotgun-carrying Pyros a big threat.

Ever played CoD? I understand it's difficult to satisfy all of the types of players but in all of the CoD games there's some sort of unbalance present.

I think the perfect CoD would be MW2 with its weapon balance combined with the perk system and everything (including maps) else of Black Ops. In MW2 there were only a couple of guns that were unusable just cause they were shit, in Black Ops there's about 5 guns you can use effectively (not to say you can't do well with the other guns of course) and the rest were crap (example: mini uzi).

psilontech:
The plasma gun in Tribes: Ascend for about the five days before they fixed it. Your hitbox for the purposes of that thing hitting you was something along the lines of three to four times that of normal.
But then they fixed it and I was happily doing well in Arena again. Still a bit of a pain to play against, but nothing so insurmountable as it was before they fixed it.

People who intentionally cause lag in CTF of the same game. Pathfinder comes in and grabs the flag under guise of lag and you don't even get told about it until he's teleported 1/4 the way back to his base.

The Plasma was way OP for a while, but I still have a huge issue (as a new player) with the Juggurnaut. Only class that can one-hit kill (with skill mind you) with the 2nd highest health. Every other class needed 3 or 4 hits. He needs a near miss.

OT: League of Legends has had the FAMOUS FIVE. The five champions that were so gamebreaking overpowered that every game was "if you have them, you win. If they have them. Queue dodge. If he is banned, you're fine"

#5 Release day LeBlanc
One shot capable on any champ starting at Level 6.

#4 Old Shaco
Lower cooldowns and higher damage on a champ still considered to be one of the best junglers in the game.

#3 Beta Heimerdinger
5 turrets. Nuff said.

#2 Release day Xin Zhao
Top players set kill records, as he was capable of 1 v 5ing your entire team.

#1 Beta Twisted Fate
His global teleport? 16 seconds cooldown on his E. His W? AN AREA OF EFFECT 2 SECOND STUN! His ult? GLOBAL SLOW AND REVEAL.

II2:

The USAS 12 w/ Grenade Shells in BF3... In an otherwise fairly well balanced game, it stands out as extremely OP. The Saiga or DAO-12 w/ Grenade Shells is alright, but you won't see it doing *that*.

The last time I recall something in a BF game being that out of whack was in BF: Vietnam (not bad company dlc), when the American support class had both a shoot-from-the-hip M60 and a Bazooka.

That video's in hardcore mode though, right? I mean, it takes like 3 or four hits to kill with frag rounds - I honestly think he would have been killing just as fast/faster with buckshot for the majority of those kills. Though I must admit, the first time I came up against people using frag rounds in Metro I was blown away by how much carnage they seemed to cause - it's hard to judge how much damage is actually being done behind all the screen blur and explosions!

Recently, choppers' TV guided missiles in BF3 have been pissing me off - it seems to have unlimited range and kills armoured vehicles in a single hit. Wut? With all the nerfs recently to AA missiles etc, just seems insanely imba. Oh, and guys using the SMAW anti-tank rocket as their primary weapon in infantry matches is just annoying XD

Other than that, I've only really been playing SCII which is kinda awesomely balanced sooo...

The Wykydtron:

krazykidd:

The Wykydtron:

Ah I was going to mention Wesker in my OP. But hey I, and many other people have raged against him enough I think, i'd end up sounding like a broken record XD

This will just about sum up how everyone who has ever played UMVC3 feels about Wesker anyway

There is not enough rage for wesker , until his health is nerfed . Let him keep his damage and his speed , and his godly assist , and his self OTG and his teleports . Just for the love of god , give him the same amount of life as strider or akuma.

Or better yet, nerf his health down to Phoenix levels and watch as everyone drops him near instantly nyahahahaha! Usually i'd hate to see the bullshit nerf Phoenix got happen anyone else, but for Wesker... I'd have to make an exception XD

Oh just off topic for a sec, i'm still waiting for a Phoenix Wright to make an appearance in a tourney at some point... Seriously it's like nobody plays him except me. Apparently a character actually having quite a high learning curve equates to being low tier. Who knew?

Well, it's not that he has a high learning curve, it's that for him to truly be useful, you need to not attack for a while. In a game based around killing your opponent in a single hit (*COUGH* FilipinoChamp *COUGH*) not attacking sounds like a bad idea to me.

It's why I sold the game. Got bored of either instantly winning or losing based on who happened to win a game of footsie.

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