Deus Ex: Human Revolution Review

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Darn it, why must I be so poor. :( Stupid economy making it really hard to find a summer job...

MartialArc:

FaceFaceFace:

Anodos:

Wasnt that the same problem with Alpha Protocol? Seems like just the game they would learn mistakes from....

The original required you kill one character to proceed (Anna Navare), but gameplay-wise you didn't have to do so through combat. He didn't really say whether or not these required bosses have to be fought directly with guns or if there are other ways of killing them, which I guess would determine how much of a misstep it is.

You can fool Anna, Gunther still acts like she dies though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsh24FmYlNQ

Its almost a glitch I reckon, considering the game just assumes she dies.

Tiamat666:

FaceFaceFace:

The original required you kill one character to proceed (Anna Navare), but gameplay-wise you didn't have to do so through combat. He didn't really say whether or not these required bosses have to be fought directly with guns or if there are other ways of killing them, which I guess would determine how much of a misstep it is.

Actually, no. You were not required to kill Anna. You could stay idly by and let her shoot Lebedev.
The one person you really had to kill is Walton Simons.

You could run by Simons as well. It is possible to play through Deus Ex without killing anyone. Bob Page dies in one of the endings, so for the no kill you can't complete the Tracer Tong ending. You don't have to kill Anna either, but Gunther still makes it sound like you killed her.

100% completion with no kills is possible depending on the ending you choose. Bob Page dies in the Tracer Tong ending when the base explodes. If you go with the illuminati ending or merge with helios it is ambiguous as to whether he lives or not.

Actually, it's not ambiguous in the illuminati ending:

Also, good to know that the game will run well on my 9800 gt.

FreakSheet:
Can't wait for this to unlock on Steam. My computer has been augmented to play this.

OT: I've seen other reviews, and interestingly enough they say Stealth is prefered over combat, where as Butt says its the Combat over Stealth.

This also makes me happy. I guess the game is designed well enough so that people just naturally think it suits their prefered playstyle.

FUCK YEAH! LESS THAN A DAY AND I HAVE MY AUGMENTED EDITION!!!

Oh, and good review, there may be a few blemishes, but they are trivial...

I guess I have nothing more to add apart from a 100ft neon sign proclaiming 'DO WANT!', accompanied by a fanfare and some fireworks.

Damn you Amazon, hurry up and deliver this freaking game already!!
I pre-ordered the Augmented edition and I still have to wait until at least 1:00 PM tomorrow for it to come in. The wait is killing me, and apparently Jim Sterling has had it for at least a week. Bastard....

Steve Butts:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Review

A worthy sequel to one of the greatest PC games of all time.

Read Full Article

Nice! This must be your payment for being the go to guy for movie licensed games.

why the hell is Gamefly so SLOW?!?!?!?

I don't wanna wait till wednesday

DJDarque:

Steve Butts:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Review

A worthy sequel to one of the greatest PC games of all time.

Read Full Article

It looks interesting, but one question: Is the story pretty self-contained or will I need to have played the previous Deus Ex games to really understand everything?

From what I've played in the beta it seems as you really won't need to be caught up on the Deus Ex lore to get the story. Besides,I keep hearing that this is a prequel to the original games.

OT: As I mentioned,yes I downloaded that leaked beta,but I'm treating it as a long demo seeing as it only contains 1/4 of the full game and has plenty of bugs running around. I really like it and hope that I can transfer my save into the full version (You know,because finishing 1/4 of the game only to have to start over would be pretty irritating)

Tiamat666:
Strange. I was pretty sure that I didn't kill Anna on my first playthrough many, many years ago. On the other hand, I couldn't find a way to get past Simons without blowing him up.
But maybe time and old age (cough, cough) have clouded my mind.

Well I'm not an expert by any means. I played Deus Ex as a stealthy killer. No one knew I was there, but no one lived either. And yeah, I just blew up Simons too. Made that fight kind of inconsequential.

MartialArc:
You can fool Anna, Gunther still acts like she dies though...

100% completion with no kills is possible depending on the ending you choose. Bob Page dies in the Tracer Tong ending when the base explodes. If you go with the illuminati ending or merge with helios it is ambiguous as to whether he lives or not.

Well, it sounds like they at least almost made a game where you did have to kill one person, even if you ultimately could avoid killing anyone. And I thought the Illuminati ending had Everett explicitly tell you to kill Page? Again, though, I only know what I saw in one run-through and what I've read in various corners of the internet.

I'll pick it up if i go to town. Really excited now that I'm seeing all positive reviews.

You know I hear a lot about disapointing boss fight

but mind you in the original deus ex you could pull something out of Indianna Jones at Maggie Chow. She come at you with a dragon tooth (a pretty kick-ass weapon I admit) but by that time you have about half a dozens gun on you and your augmented while she isn't

Amusingly enough Walter Simons goes down easily for the opposite reason as you can rush him with the dragon tooth easily leaving his carcass to the Karkarian (where it blow up in their face most amusingly)

So, I'm going to go grab this tonight. I already payed it off, and it seems I made a good decision. Hopefully, Gamestop is doing a midnight release. I'd hate to have to wait til tomorrow.

Damn you, Escapist. I can barely wait until tomorrow. Why are you such a tease!?

FaceFaceFace:

Tiamat666:
Strange. I was pretty sure that I didn't kill Anna on my first playthrough many, many years ago. On the other hand, I couldn't find a way to get past Simons without blowing him up.
But maybe time and old age (cough, cough) have clouded my mind.

Well I'm not an expert by any means. I played Deus Ex as a stealthy killer. No one knew I was there, but no one lived either. And yeah, I just blew up Simons too. Made that fight kind of inconsequential.

MartialArc:
You can fool Anna, Gunther still acts like she dies though...

100% completion with no kills is possible depending on the ending you choose. Bob Page dies in the Tracer Tong ending when the base explodes. If you go with the illuminati ending or merge with helios it is ambiguous as to whether he lives or not.

Well, it sounds like they at least almost made a game where you did have to kill one person, even if you ultimately could avoid killing anyone. And I thought the Illuminati ending had Everett explicitly tell you to kill Page? Again, though, I only know what I saw in one run-through and what I've read in various corners of the internet.

The intent almost definitely for you to kill her. The fact that they didn't bother to give gunther some extra lines of dialogue to make everything mesh. For the endings I can't remember them all offhand, I know Page may or may not die depending on the ending chosen, maybe its helios he lives, the others he dies.

Well I never played the original. Guess I will now.

...in addition to buying the new one.

I've had this pre-ordered since January, and it shipped out a few hours ago.

I also just finished reading Icarus Effect this morning. It gave me a delicious thirst for closure and conflict.

I even played the leaked beta, and it made me want the game more.

My body is ready.

but what if you never played the other games is this worth playing?

I was very excited when I saw the Escapist's DEHR review was up and frankly I was almost convinced it could never meet the expectations set by the original. But Steve's verdict is crystal clear and so the only thing that could keep me from buying this game (and I only buy 2 or 3 a year) is an intrusive copy protection. Does DEHR has one?

P.S.: I played Deus Ex (the original) through just half a year ago and it was still fun to play.

Tiamat666:

FaceFaceFace:

The original required you kill one character to proceed (Anna Navare), but gameplay-wise you didn't have to do so through combat. He didn't really say whether or not these required bosses have to be fought directly with guns or if there are other ways of killing them, which I guess would determine how much of a misstep it is.

Actually, no. You were not required to kill Anna. You could stay idly by and let her shoot Lebedev.
The one person you really had to kill is Walton Simons.

Actually you're both in the wrong here.

You could actually get through the game without killing a single character. However with Anna Navarre you have to use an exploit (Last opportunity to face her is in UNATCO HQ) and make her run for and open a locked door that doesn't open unless you take a key off her. The game still treats it as if you killed her even if she lives.

However with Gunther and Walton Simons lines that comments on their deaths that never comes up if you let them live.

I played the original again recently and I can say that Human Revolution is an improvement in just about every way. Makes up for that shitty Invisible War game.

Since the game is protected by Steamworks, you're not likely to have any major DRM issues.

weirdguy:
Since the game is protected by Steamworks, you're not likely to have any major DRM issues.

Thx for the info. BTW for me not being allowed to resell what I pay for is an issue.

It's okay because technically NOBODY will be able to resell the game, thereby forcing them to share the pain with you.

Damn, this doesn't come out in Australia until the 26th, and if the date is by American time then that means I won't be able to get it until the 27th, which is always the case.

RobotNinja:
I don't understand why everyone wants to do a pacifist run. Stealth kills are the best.

Achievements, and also just because you can. How many games offer that possibility? And you can do stealth takedowns, anyways, which feature some badass kung fu.

EDIT: Why did this game get a lower score than Dragon Age 2? I am extremely confused.

I've already pre-ordered it, glad to hear it wasn't a horrible decision. A shame they drop you in combat-only boss fights, that was one of the mayor downsides of Alpha Protocol. From the original, you did have to kill Anna baring semi-glitches, but there was a non-combat way to do it: Find the two words of her insta-kill phrase, and you could kill her without fighting. Some bosses to spice up the fights are fine, but I would've liked to see them give you the option of using the other skills to beat them. Talk them down, or talk someone else into killing them. Let them chase you into a room full of hacked turrets. Sneak above them and drop something heavy and/or explosive. That sort of thing.

I plan to make my takedowns involve as many comically large objects as possible.

You heard it here first. Deus Ex: Human Revolution is superior to Dragon Age 2. /shakes head in shame

Jim Sterling's review was muuch better.

ultrachicken:
EDIT: Why did this game get a lower score than Dragon Age 2? I am extremely confused.

I'm pretty sure that's partly because it was reviewed by a different person, partly because the whole fallout from the Dragon Age 2 score has made them a bit more cautious with 5 star scores, and partly because *REDACTED*.

So if you could kindly not mention that game again, I'm sure everyone would appreciate it. Thank you.

Yay, yay, yay, and yay. That's all it took. I just NEEDED to hear a good review for the game. I've wanted it to turn out well so much, and hearing that is has just made my day :) Now i can i'm getting it for sure. YAY

I had some mild hopes on this one, but didn't expect anything special. Now, after this review, and Jim's lack of episode thanks to DE:HR, I'm all hyped. I planned to catch up with InFamous 2 after getting some money at the end of the month, but looks like it'll have to wait.

I'm looking forward to this, the best bits in the original where when a plan went tits up and you had to frantically improvise.

My face on hearing Deus Ex2 isn't a disappointment: :D

Good enough for me, it don't matter if game scored 5,4 or heck even 3/5 so long as it has some of the magic of first game, which judging by the reviewer's anecdotes, it has.

Preloading game on steam and anxiously waiting friday ^^

For those wondering about the score, we added half-star ratings back in May to give us a bit more precision. The difference in a whole star is pretty significant, and we'd had too many pre-publish debates about whether to round up or down for scores that fell in between the marks on our rating scale.

The change was finally made to accommodate LA Noire, which, like Deus Ex, was better than a 4 but not quite a 5. The difference between a 4 and a 5 will usually depend on how forgiving the individual reviewer is of the game's faults. In my case, the faults of Deus Ex never really ruined the experience, but they just couldn't be ignored.

DJDarque:

Steve Butts:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Review

A worthy sequel to one of the greatest PC games of all time.

Read Full Article

It looks interesting, but one question: Is the story pretty self-contained or will I need to have played the previous Deus Ex games to really understand everything?

I believe in the time-line it occurs before the first two game, so there shouldn't be anything we need to know as, story line wise, it hasn't happened yet.

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