Lulzsec Hacks Bethesda

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Shale_Dirk:

lovest harding:

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

People regularly tell companies that their security is lacking. Most companies choose to brush off such comments as fear-mongering or bs.

I'm starting to realize that all of these operations are actually for the overall betterment of the internet. People are starting to pay attention to security, instead of simply assuming that their personal information is completely safe in the hands of a company. Companies are starting to actually listen when people tell them that they are not as invincible as they claim that they are. While I don't agree with them releasing the information that they've managed to get from these sites, overall they are doing something that will hopefully make the internet safer overall. Because they are posting the methods they use to gain access to each of the sites, you better believe that security techs are trying to update their sites ASAP to prevent such breaches from affecting them as well.

Lulzsec is just doing this for their own amusement. Anything positives that comes about as an indirect result of these attacks is purely incidental and they deserve no credit.

KingsGambit:
With root access to the entire server farm they could have done almost anything they wanted. The fact is they did not. I don't necessarily like an attack against Bethesda who I regard quite highly but I give the hax0rs credit for not causing damage. They hax0red just to show that they could and hopefully Bethesda will improve their network security as a result.

In that case, I don't think negatively of them at all. Doing to show you can do is the best way to push yourself and your boundaries.

They have caused damage. They've publicly embarrassed a popular company and cost them possibly millions of dollars. I've said this before but they're doing this just for their own amusement and anything positive that comes about as an indirect result of their actions is purely incidental and they deserve no credit.

Firetaffer:

Johnson McGee:
'You're Welcome'

They certainly have quite the god complex to say that just because they didn't do all the harm they could have.

I may not be a hacker, but I don't use my, say, chemistry knowledge to synthesize nitroglycerin and then demand people thank me for not throwing it at their houses.

I think it's more in the line of:

You synthesize nitroglycerin, throw it through someone's house. The person finds out it was all a setup, and the house owner was hooked up to a machine in a similar vein to Inception. No actual damage was done, but there is a known weakness. They did not take any data to their advantage, therefore not really doing anything bad, apart from delay Skyrim.

Actual damage was done and they did do other bad things such as breaking the law, publicly embarrassing Bethesda, and costing Bethesda possibly millions of dollars.

A1:

ishist:
You people are ridiculous. Did you read the response from Bethesda? It amounted to "Oh, we hadn't noticed that vulnerability in our security, we're going to fix that now." Lulzsec didn't break anything, they didn't steal anything, they didn't even bring down the servers, they brought a vulnerability to light that very may well have been exploited at a different time by malicious hackers who want your CC data so they can steal your money. But Oh! Lulzsec Should be Lynched and burnt at the stake and disembowled and such for.....for....because!

They took an illegal action, publicly embarrassed a popular company, and cost them possibly millions of dollars. There is nothing commendable or noble about screwing with people for fun (which is what they're doing). It's as simple as that.

No, there isn't anything commendable or noble, but people are rabidly raging for blood and torture for what amounts to a prank. Like a kid at school dropping a cherry bomb in a toilet, so they skin him alive and hang him out in front of the school. Did it cost Bethesda money? Probably not much, other than the price of plugging up the hole they apparently had in their security.

They pretty much committed cyber-trespassing, while helpfully spray-painting a message on the wall letting the people know one of their doors wasn't locked.

ishist:

A1:

ishist:
You people are ridiculous. Did you read the response from Bethesda? It amounted to "Oh, we hadn't noticed that vulnerability in our security, we're going to fix that now." Lulzsec didn't break anything, they didn't steal anything, they didn't even bring down the servers, they brought a vulnerability to light that very may well have been exploited at a different time by malicious hackers who want your CC data so they can steal your money. But Oh! Lulzsec Should be Lynched and burnt at the stake and disembowled and such for.....for....because!

They took an illegal action, publicly embarrassed a popular company, and cost them possibly millions of dollars. There is nothing commendable or noble about screwing with people for fun (which is what they're doing). It's as simple as that.

No, there isn't anything commendable or noble, but people are rabidly raging for blood and torture for what amounts to a prank. Like a kid at school dropping a cherry bomb in a toilet, so they skin him alive and hang him out in front of the school. Did it cost Bethesda money? Probably not much, other than the price of plugging up the hole they apparently had in their security.

They pretty much committed cyber-trespassing, while helpfully spray-painting a message on the wall letting the people know one of their doors wasn't locked.

Oh it definitely cost Bethesda money. The exact amount is unclear but it could be millions depending on what exactly needs to be done to fully rectify the situation, whether it be simple patching or rebuilding their system. Lulzsec also publicly embarrassed Bethesda, and people don't like that. And there is nothing good about Lulzsec. They don't do what they do to help anyone. They do it for their own amusement and nothing else. I've said this before but anything positive that comes about as an indirect result of their actions is purely incidental and they deserve no credit. And they ARE malicious hackers themselves. They have stolen peoples personal information before and posted it online before and they have brought down servers before. There is nothing good about them. They are just a bunch of despicable malicious troublemakers who are not worthy of anything other than condemnation.

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