Mojang, Square Enix, EA and Others Sued For Patent Infringement

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Well, how about we patent "the inhalation of air and internal processing thereof's oxygen into carbon dioxide by various living material, including but not exclusively transport via iron-rich blood cells, cellular respiration and the re-expelling for purposes such as extinguishing wax candles on baked goods for special occasions". Let's see how he likes that!

Mouse_Crouse:
I am starting to think that this kind of thing should be illegal and they should be persecuted. Obviously you should be able to defend a patent, but when people are obviously just buying patents to try to sue. That should not be allowed.

Indeed. There needs to be some changes to the patent system. And by some changes I probably mean a complete overhaul. Hell, I would rather see patents on software outright denied. Feel free to still protect actual code under copyright, but the software industry moves too quickly for a software patent to be particularly useful to anyone except the guy who owns it and just sued everyone else who independently came up with their own implementation. It also avoids the issue of people suing because they hold incredibly vague patents which shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.

a system and method ... for preventing unauthorized access to electronic data stored on an electronic device

Isn't that basically every anti-virus/security program ever invented? Personally I think if your going to sue someone for patent infringement you should at least have (by law) a device/software which proves they've copied you because the quote above is just to vague.

anthony87:

Unfortunately I know people who are like that with regards to Facebook.

"Just woke up!"
"Getting dressed!"
"Lovely breakfast!
"Here's a photo of what I had for breakfast!"

I WISH I WAS FUCKING JOKING WITH THAT LAST ONE! It's....it's just....maddening. It's so maddening that I can't think of a decent way to politely tell them that nobody gives a shit O_o.

Maybe we're just too mad to understand their totally sane and reasonable behavior
(actually, my current theory is that all people are in denial about reality, as we're able to calculate it properly to a certain degree, but cannot accept our insignificance emotionally, so our mind takes the most colorful shapes to compensate : D! )

captcha: "go berserk"
AS YOU WISH, ESCAPIST.

The Dickmobile? There has never been a more fitting name to a vehicle. Hopefully he gets landed with an astronomical amount of debt.

That guy certainly does look like someone who rides around in the DickMobile ("dick" as in jerk). I really hope that Notch destroys this loser to the point where he becomes like the douche PR guy in the scandle over the 3rd party controller customer service back in December. He thought he was all tough with his BS list of contacts that had no idea who the hell he was. Now he's essentially been black-balled by the entire internet and can't find any work because no one will hire him for their PR. Well no shit.

Anyways, I'm hoping this patent leech gets absolutely destroyed like that as well. He reminds me of the Westboro Baptist Church, going to funerals and other events just to hold horrifically offensive protests in the hopes that someone gets angry at them and throws a punch or something, at which point they IMMEDIATELY sue for as much as they possibly can. And since the majority of the higher-ups in that church are actually lawyers, they normally win. It's just a scam, a dispicable scam the same as the one this loser is trying to pull.

newdarkcloud:
What a jerkwad. I'm getting real tired of these constant patent disputes.

I also am getting tired of them.

He won't get a cent anyway they'll either crush him or drag it out so he goes bankrupt from legal fees.

This is ridiculous. I hope these patent trolls don't get a penny, not from any of those companies. They ought to pool their legal resources for this and countersue.

Notch posted a copy of the litigation papers:

http://notch.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mojang.pdf

rhizhim:

Adam Jensen:
I fuckin' hate patents. Ideas should be free for everyone as long as people are not blatantly ripping other peoples ideas off.

These guys are obvious patent trolls. And as such they should be shot.

that...doesnt make any sense.

patents are there so people dont blatantly rip other peoples ideas off.
just ask china with their Ipud tablets, rulex watch.....
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Wow, I want to go to star fucks now.

Dickmobile...Seriously? Is this a late April Fool's joke?

Captcha: Lame Duck.

More like "Lame Dick," am I right?

This is really the patent office's fault at the end of the day, but people like this make me sick.

Let me clarify though: Patents aren't a bad thing, but they need to be more specific, and instances of patent infringement should be obvious. When people see these Chineese knockoffs, they actually aren't usually even infringing on much of the technology, what they're trying to do is borrow the brand. They're attempting to use a name your recognize to con you into buying a product. But what we have right now, is legions of small companies patenting all sorts of vague, general ideas for hardware and software (EG: A button wherein is placed on the side of the device, the antenna is on the INSIDE of the device) and suing anyone that they can with them.

Sounds like one of those utility patent lawsuits.

Utility patents are bad news, as it allows someone to create something like, I don't know, keys, and then gives them the ability to sue everyone who does not buy the rig to use keys on there product from them.

One story like this happened a while ago, where a man sued all the software companies in the world for using a loading screen, claiming it was his idea to represent it as such.

You see how these things can be a problem to creativity and innovative start-up businesses?

Also: Gabe Newell's evil twin? Here at 11.

Considering the Xbox 360 version of Minecraft alone has made over $60 million just since its May 9th release, even after Microsoft's share, taxes, and paying 27 Mojang employees, Notch can easily afford to bury this guy in litigation.

This country (the U.S.) really really needs to revamp the lawsuit area of the justice system. Well a lot of areas need revamping, but frivolous lawsuits that end up costing taxpayers money (paying judges, bailiffs, stenographers and all the other people involved that work for the gov't) are ridiculous. Not to mention the mountains of money that litigators get paid whether they win or not...
To be honest, lawsuits should have some form of deterrence on them, perhaps putting a limit on how much a lawyer/law office can make from a lawsuit, penalties for lawsuits that are proven to be a waste of everyone's time... I don't have answers on how it should work but I think that its ridiculous what people can sue for.

Great example: That dumbass lady who dropped hot coffee in her lap and got burned and sued McDonalds because "there was no warning label". That is fucking ridiculous, and even more ridiculous that she won.

Anyone else know of some stupid ass suits that should never have been considered?

Like everyone else has said, it sucks. Exploiting the hell out of that loophole in the current patent and copyright laws is a shamefully efficient way to make a living, actually. You just have to have enough evidence, enough clout to stand up against a corp with an army of lawyers, and time to waste.

Sue enough people frequently enough and someone's bound to agree to a settlement just to shut you up. Not everyone's Sony, Microsoft or Mojang. Ka-ching! Free cash, usually at the tune of a few million bucks!

Not that it has any chance of happening now, though. Like others have said, Notch can afford to bury this guy in court appeals and other attempts at litigation until the end of time.

amaranth_dru:
This country (the U.S.) really really needs to revamp the lawsuit area of the justice system. Well a lot of areas need revamping, but frivolous lawsuits that end up costing taxpayers money (paying judges, bailiffs, stenographers and all the other people involved that work for the gov't) are ridiculous. Not to mention the mountains of money that litigators get paid whether they win or not...
To be honest, lawsuits should have some form of deterrence on them, perhaps putting a limit on how much a lawyer/law office can make from a lawsuit, penalties for lawsuits that are proven to be a waste of everyone's time... I don't have answers on how it should work but I think that its ridiculous what people can sue for.

Great example: That dumbass lady who dropped hot coffee in her lap and got burned and sued McDonalds because "there was no warning label". That is fucking ridiculous, and even more ridiculous that she won.

Anyone else know of some stupid ass suits that should never have been considered?

Woman received third degree burns from the coffee. Please actually study that case.

MammothBlade:

rhizhim:

Adam Jensen:
I fuckin' hate patents. Ideas should be free for everyone as long as people are not blatantly ripping other peoples ideas off.

These guys are obvious patent trolls. And as such they should be shot.

that...doesnt make any sense.

patents are there so people dont blatantly rip other peoples ideas off.
just ask china with their Ipud tablets, rulex watch.....
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Wow, I want to go to star fucks now.

As do I. Remember their motto:
"We'll get you up in the morning."

Give that fat ass a weeks worth of KFC thatl solve this case pretty quickly.

Can you say diabetic coma? Lol

RvLeshrac:

Shjade:

elilupe:
If anyone can beat a patent troll incredibly hard into the dust, it's Notch.

Because he's demonstrated a knack for swinging around the legal system before? If that were the case I think his tiff with Bethesda would've gone differently.

With Bethesda, it wasn't actually certain he would win, and he didn't seem to care much either way.

uncanny474:
Yeah, but the Bethesda case was muddy. I could see some poor blind grandma picking up Skyrim instead of Scrolls, like her grandson wanted. Poor kid...

This is purely some bastard trying to steal money from people who earned it. Even EA is preferable to this cancerous blob. I would literally buy a round-trip plane ticket to Texas just to dance on his grave when he dies. Which will hopefully be soon, and of starvation.

lacktheknack:
To be fair, Notch was (accidentally) totally in the wrong for that one.

I don't see him being in the wrong on this one.

All true statements.

None of which support the notion that Notch has the knowledge or ability to beat someone who specializes in this kind of lawsuit, much less that he is someone who can be depended upon for it ("If anyone can do it, it's Notch.")

I think my statement of skepticism stands.

He looks kind of like a young Plinkett? Anyone else see the resemblance?

It would be kinda fun to see all those companies and corporations join forces and bitch-slap that bugger to his place in a court.

awesome tweet from notch, but this guy is fucking mental. i think this is proof that there is SOMETHING wrong with current patent laws, although i have no understanding of them so i can't really say what

That description isn't of a patent, its of a type of patient. That's like trying to patent 'A device with an engine and enclosed space that is designed to move people form place to place' and suing every company to ever make a car. Patent need to be actual things. I know they make them vague to avoid similar but not he same devices but this is ridiculous. Never mind the balls he has to file the suits, who the hell is the patent clerk that didn't immediately trash that idea?

Step 1: patent copyright trolling
step 2: become counter-trolling legend

Not sure who the biggest pricks are.

1: Lawyers helping these patent trolls and charging like $500 per hour. Also $500 per hour? WHY do they think they are worth so much?

2: The patent troll itself.

3: The judge who agrees with patent trolls.

This has been going on for years as well and it still hasn't changed. Make some demands on when you can issue an suing order.

I remember watching a Youtube video about this and one way to win was to go like "I'm gonna drag this out as much as possible!" and it usually got them to stop. The other way was to demand they show proof of the infringement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_lb3D7Ay-M

Good video to watch.

Patent Trolling should be met with swift ball crushing justice.

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Swift, swift justice.

We get all pissed of when things like this happen to smaller businesses, but this guy really is just a tiny part of the problem.

Look up "Rockstar Consortium". Apple, Microsoft, and Sony, and some others, have set up this group to patent troll the tech industry.

edit:
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/05/rockstar/

""Pretty much anybody out there is infringing," says John Veschi, Rockstar's CEO. "It would be hard for me to envision that there are high-tech companies out there that don't use some of the patents in our portfolio.""

Oh hey; the guy who managed to get money from microsoft for the product key system used in their products (Apparently MS was unable to prove that they were working on a similar system before the guy showed his idea to them!) is going to lose all the money he got and then some for being a greedy patent troll! It's guys like this and their dickmobiles which make me embarrassed to say I am australian

Shjade:
All true statements.

None of which support the notion that Notch has the knowledge or ability to beat someone who specializes in this kind of lawsuit, much less that he is someone who can be depended upon for it ("If anyone can do it, it's Notch.")

I think my statement of skepticism stands.

Notch's knowledge and ability don't amount to a hill of clams. What matters is his LAWYER'S knowledge and ability. I mean, unless he represents himself, which would make me headdesk through my computer.

In the business of finding big ideas

base in Texas

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Ok, ok, that was needless. It's two in the morning and I needed to make a flippant comment. I apologise to all progressive and forward thinking Texans.

Shouldn't take long...

:)

OT: This guy obviously makes his 'living' by trying to cash in on the successful ideas of other people. With any luck the legal system will see him coming a mile off and drop-kick him into next week.

90sgamer:

RvLeshrac:

Correction: You *SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED* to patent vague concepts.

You most certainly CAN obtain a patent for vague concepts - otherwise, IP patents would not exist. Amazon holds the "One-Click" patent, which is just "Not requiring that the user enter all of their data again when buying something." In order for that to not be a concept, it would need to patent very specific code in a specific language.

[citation needed]

(ed: You know what, nah, here's the citation: GOOGLE)

RedEyesBlackGamer:

MammothBlade:

rhizhim:

that...doesnt make any sense.

patents are there so people dont blatantly rip other peoples ideas off.
just ask china with their Ipud tablets, rulex watch.....
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Wow, I want to go to star fucks now.

As do I. Remember their motto:
"We'll get you up in the morning."

Except not a single one of those things is patented. Those are all trademarks, which are protected under completely different legislation.

Patents work like this:

If you invent the telephone and I invent the telephone, independently, on other sides of a continent, the first one of us that gets the letter to the patent office is the only one allowed to make the product.

Here's the patent: http://www.google.com/patents/US6857067.

Uniloc isn't shy about these lawsuits. Half of their Q&A page is about their lawsuit with Microsoft (granted there are only six topics, but they also mention it again on their IP page).

This guy thinks up his lawsuits in a VAN, down by the RIVER!!!

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Patent trolling should be punishable by death. These people are just looking for a payday off of other people's hard work, at the expense of the real creative groups. Shameful. Utterly shameful.

I look forward to this idiot getting his ass kicked in court.

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