Sly is furry, so where is the hate?

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I really don't give a fuck as long as they don't make too much atrocious furry fan art of things I like (it wouldn't bother me as much if it were ever actually good artwork, but only furries who are also terrible artists seem obsessed with doing that sort of thing).

rob_simple:
Sorry, maybe I'm confused, I thought furries are people who dress up like rabbits and fuck each other? How does that translate to cartoon animals in a game that aren't real/fucking each other?

I was confused at first to, but this is what I have learned: Furry is both a label for the people who enjoy anthropomorphic animals and the anthropomorphic animals themselves. That is why you might see someone describe a picture of Krystal as a picture of a furry. Technically speaking, sex isn't involved unless.. sex is involved. It's really as simple as that. Every fandom apparently has their seedy underbelly, I recently just saw a horrifying Adventure Time picture much to my regret. The difference with furrys is it's all the more horrifying because of the specific interest involved, so it's easy to focus on that over everything else. It's doesn't help that a lot of the people into having sex in animal suits (as you mentioned) also seem to be the most flamboyant and open individuals; willing to talk to any person with a camera and mic. It doesn't really help their bad image at all, and for the longest time it's the only thing I knew about furries.

And for the record, I always assumed the reason Krystal from Starfox got a hard time is because the internet is chock-full of crudely drawn porn of her.

That doesn't help, but I am pretty sure the hate she got was there long before the fan art appeared. That said, I am positive the character in the video I posted must have some horrible adult fan-art as well, I just don't want to look it up to see.

The reason they're not hated is because they're not shoved down people's throats. I had to click on this thread to remember who "sly" was.

VanQQisH:
Anthropomorphic characters are not creepy by default. In fact, some of my favourite game character -Crash Bandicoot, Blinx, Sly Cooper or Jak- are anthropomorphic. It's when they're specifically being used for fap purposes that I want nothing to do with them.

Pretty much this.

That, along with the fact that Sly as a whole is pretty innocent. They're just anthropomorphic, pretty much like that Disney take on Robin Hood where everyone was an animal, and people grew up with it, so people are probably more likely to turn a cheek to it. Also, Carmilita's sexyness was turned up for Sly 4. In the previous installments, that really wasn't much of the case.


Ok, so that's not entirely true. I think that people were just more bothered by that fact that in each game her voice changes.

xPixelatedx:
Snip.

I see, I guess that would explain the distinction of 'furry porn'. Well, in that case, I'd guess the reason Sly hasn't received any hate (yet) is because I've always viewed it as a sort of cult success (I personally didn't play any of the games until the HD collection,) whereas Starfox Adventures was a lot more publicised as it was one of the only good games the Gamecube had to offer, and the Dust game you mention probably (not justly) attracted controversy due to being designed by a 'self-confessed' furry.

I think some furries are fucking weird, no bones about it, but I see no harm in it if they are willing to keep the more exotic parts of their interests to themselves. Equally, I think the people that constantly post about how much they hate furries are just looking to troll a notoriously thin-skinned community (despite their rich pelts, presumably).

Aris Khandr:
Sly gets a pass because no one cares. The games review well enough, or so Wikipedia tells me, but they don't really make any impact on the general populace. It is kind of like that thread asking why no one objected to same sex marriages in Fable 3. Because no one cared enough about Fable 3 to turn it into a scandal. Outside of fans of the series, no one will even think about Sly Cooper in two weeks.

As much as I love the crap out of this series, I think this guy has it figured it out. The Sly series just isn't a big enough deal to get noticed by the general public.

Incidentally, furriness notwithstanding, does anyone else think she looks freakishly skinny?

6th And Silver:

Incidentally, furriness notwithstanding, does anyone else think she looks freakishly skinny?

Yeah, where the chest meets the hips is really skinny. Not to mention the picture in the post above yours even shows ribs.

On topic, if I remember, Carmeleta actually has personalization, so she might feel more like a person than an object? I dunno, it's been a long long time since I played the Sly games.

Most likely it's what people have said a lot already, the base for this game is small, thus the ripples it makes are also small.

Terminate421:
"furries" have gone back since this, EVEN BEFORE THIS:

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The problem is, the furry community likes to play what I like to call "Schrodinger's Catgirl." They are as inclusive or exclusive as they want to be, and it's virtually impossible to nail down what is considered furry and what isn't. Most criticism then come from the perception of the worst elements of said community, and trickle down from there.

My personal inclination is to not care, and it's good to see there's a lot of apathy around here. Being poorly defined does not justify hate, and that's where it seems to come from.

Also, Bug Bunny.

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A crossdressing furry who greeted dudes with a kiss and 99% of my generation grew up on him and loved him.

xPixelatedx:

RJ 17:

The reason game characters get a pass is because there's no reason to hate on them. They're game characters, made by a game company, to be interacted with inside a game. It's the same with cartoon characters, the fact that we know they were designed purely for entertainment rather than to induce sexual arousal makes it hard to see them as anything sexual, even when looking at a character like Carmelita. Furry game characters were around a long time before furry was a big deal.

In short, it's the tie-in to sex that generates the most ire towards furries. And it's hard to see that tie-in when you know there's not going to be anything sexual in the game.

Except I see Starfox getting hated on all the time for it, particular after the inclusion of Krystal. But a more recent example would be Dust. When that game came out I saw message boards and comment sections explode with venom being spewed at that game. While your logic seems interesting, the fact that Dust is also a video game pokes a hole in it.

Just as you're speaking from personal experience, so was I. I personally haven't witnessed anyone hating on a game or a game character for being a humanized animal. What I'd say to someone getting pissed off at a furry character for bein overly sexualized is "Dude, it's a videogame character. Are you pissed off at them for making it sexualized? Or are you pissed off at yourself for seeing it as sexualized?"

shrekfan246:

MetalMagpie:

shrekfan246:
You forgot Krystal in Star Fox. Though if I remember right, I think she gets hate for other reasons too.

Maybe when it comes to video games people don't care, but when it's drawings or real people it somehow triggers a "THIS MAKES ME ANGRY!" reflex in their brains? I don't know, I don't have any issues with furries myself. If it's not for sexual purposes, then making a fursuit or whatever isn't really any different than cosplaying.

EDIT: And I'm really going to give the benefit of the doubt to people here and believe that the majority of them don't look at it as a sexual fetish, as all of the people spewing hate seem to ascribe to them.

I think most (normal) people only get weird out when it's used as a fetish.

I have no problem with Disney films, children's cartoons, breakfast cereal mascots, or any other anthropomorphic animal character. What I don't like is when people depict such characters in a sexual context. Firstly because in many cases it feels like an inappropriate depiction of a fictional character intended for children (e.g. pornographic images of Sonic the Hedgehog or Disney characters), and secondly because some of the images come uncomfortably close to bestiality (e.g. pornographic images of dog-people with fully canine genitalia).

I am aware that most "furry" art is child-friendly, and even most of the "adult" stuff is only pip-up style images. But the hardcore stuff really makes my skin crawl, and I try to avoid seeing it.

I don't know, I've seen plenty of hatred being thrown at people who have anthropomorphic characters as forum avatars or other similar situations, much like how about a year and a half ago all of the people with My Little Pony avatars were being bashed.

As for Rule 34, it's a bit off-topic but I guess I must just be a sexual deviant, because I have no problems with Rule 34 of... practically any characters, really. It's just fan-art, and generally easy to avoid, so I don't see it as inappropriate or disrespectful because... well, it's porn. All of it is pretty inappropriate. And between all of the shitty MS Paint drawings, there are some really good artists and some people who make really humorous, albeit sexual, "comics" including the characters.

And really, when it comes to cartoons I believe that pretty much anything is fair game. You can't really make the claim that a skeleton getting it on with an elf is necrophilia, and none of it is real in the first place so what does it matter?

It doesn't matter, but that doesn't stop me finding it disgusting. Which is why I try to avoid having to see it. Whether or not it's inappropriate or disrespectful depends largely on the specific example and your point of view. I would argue it is disrespectful to produce fan-art/fan-fiction/etc. that the owner of the IP finds upsetting. It's not something I think should be banned (freedom of expression and all that) it just seems like very bad manners. In the same way that there's nothing to stop anyone writing a "fan-fic" about a celebrity (or anyone else, for that matter) getting violently raped, but it's still unkind.

And (speaking only for myself) it feels inappropriate to depict anthropomorphic children's characters in sexual situations for the same reason that it feels inappropriate to depict human children's characters (especially ones who would be underage - were they real) in sexual situations. People are free to create whatever images they want and pander to whatever fetishes they have (within the law), but I personally don't like it. So I can understand why people might get upset, especially when they see a treasured character from their childhood depicted in that way. Personally, I don't think porn is inherently inappropriate. Sex is a natural, normal part of life and there's nothing inherently sacrilegious about making and viewing images of it. But that doesn't mean it can't upset people.

I personally have never see any "hate" directed at someone simply for having an anthropomorphic avatar. I was under the impression that My Little Pony fans were getting a lot of aggro because they're adult fans of a cartoon for little girls. If all the ponies were humans (but the cartoon otherwise unchanged), I don't think it would have made any difference.

Hmm .. my take on it is this:

When you've grown up with a game, movie, cartoon .. ect, you tend to not notice these themes until it's brought up. But by then you really don't care, because why stop liking a series you've enjoyed just because people have 'altered' that somewhere into a fetish?

Also bear in mind (as others stated) we've seen plenty of Anthropomorphic characters like Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Star Fox, Sly, Crash, heck Sonic the Hedgehog is an anthropomorphic fellow who've come to adore over the course of time. It's probably when new characters or recognizable ones are being used to arouse people for the sole purpose that these characters have animal blended traits making people feel weirded out.

Here's a good example .. Pinkie Pie. Just herself in the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic shows how many people love her. She's a well designed character who makes you laugh along the lines she's in a very popular show. Now imagine if someone showed you a picture of her as an Anthropomorphic character that's a bit 'revealing' ... more then likely you're going to resent that because it's obviously made to get guys (or girls, yeah they are people too) horny. It feels like corruption despite it's just a fan made picture but it's intention is what gets people upset.

To me, Sly might be a bit .. revealing, but her personality, accent, and purpose are not rendered to be 'sexy' but instead she remains the same likable character in which you don't really pay attention to her design as Sly makes you laugh or interested in what she has to say.

For the last darn time, Furry is a Fandom for anthro characters. Furry is not interchangeable with Anthropomorphic character. Even as slang it makes no sense as that same word also implies some sort of sexual inclination or other absurdity.

By comparison, its like saying all Anime is inherently fetish material or porn or such.

I do believe though that drawing copyrighted/original characters in a pornographic way without the consent of the author is disrespectful. This includes fetish art in my view as its still based on ... well invoking a specific reaction.

Hmmm...I found the clip funny, so I guess this is just fine.

Perhaps as long as the furry-state remains within the context of the game world (like "Dust" or "Sly Cooper") it becomes less of an issue. Sly is also an old mascot, very much like Fox McCloud, Banjo and Kazooie, or arguably Crash Bandicoot. It was only when furry-fetishes became more widespread that controversy arose.

However, when you get games like "Sonic the Hedgehog"...where Sonic seemingly is attracted to a very human-looking girl...things get awkward.

Eh, "whatever gets you off as long as it's consensual" has always been my motto upon stumbling into the deep recesses of the internet by accident; or sometimes not, OK usually not. What were we talking about again?

There's a difference between anthropomorphic animals and the "furry" scene.

Where anthro characters have been around basically forever and are more of a stylistic choice than anything (often to elicit child audiences), furries the community surrounding a more adult-oriented version of the same thing, to the extent of roleplaying as one's own original anthro character.

Some_weirdGuy:
Wow... I am not liking her new look... or her apparently new personality. I think she looked way better in sly's 1-3, and from this it seems like they kinda invalidated the character arc she went through in the first series of games just as an excuse to have her back exactly how things were at the start. :X
Maybe it plays out better in-game.

I think she looks kind of weird, too. I also really just want her Sly 2 voice actress to come back.

The video portrays her as she is in the majority of the game. It's not some weird retcon, though. Thieves in Time is a good (read: awesome) game; Sanzaru did a fantastic job. So you should go get it and see how it actually plays out.

You know the guy who made "Dust:an elysian tail" was a furry himself so he knew how appeal to furries around the world.

I think furry haters just wanna hate on sly,Dust,Ratchet&clank etc.. because they wanna blame them for so called "sexy" anthropomorphic they see today.

HavoK 09:
god dammit, i knew that there was something wrong with donald duck not wearing any pants, he is just another oversexualized caracter

Donald Duck wearing no pants isn't the issue, Ducks don't wear pants so the lack of pants doesn't sexualize the character. Donald Duck wearing tight speedos containing a huge bulge would sexualize the character.

xPixelatedx:

Do not want. But, I'm not going to waste my time or yours hating you for it. What I am going to do is the mature thing by shutting my mouth, avoiding the game and leaving it at that.

The_Echo:
I think she looks kind of weird, too. I also really just want her Sly 2 voice actress to come back.

The video portrays her as she is in the majority of the game. It's not some weird retcon, though. Thieves in Time is a good (read: awesome) game; Sanzaru did a fantastic job. So you should go get it and see how it actually plays out.

she's got like a.... granny face XD

and yeah, strange how in every game they always had a different voice actress for her. Her personality in that video retains some of what it use to be, except they cranked up the 'bimbo' setting, which is what I find to be kinda off-putting.

I would indeed be tempted to get it, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so that puts somewhat of a spanner in the works.

Uhh, I thought ferries were just the designated internet punching bag. People don't actually have a problem with furries, they are basically the Milhouse of the Internet.

I don't think people actually care.

And I don't think they care about another Sly game being resurrected long after the original developers left it, brought back by a different studio that has not impressed before.

Some_weirdGuy:

The_Echo:
I think she looks kind of weird, too. I also really just want her Sly 2 voice actress to come back.

The video portrays her as she is in the majority of the game. It's not some weird retcon, though. Thieves in Time is a good (read: awesome) game; Sanzaru did a fantastic job. So you should go get it and see how it actually plays out.

she's got like a.... granny face XD

and yeah, strange how in every game they always had a different voice actress for her. Her personality in that video retains some of what it use to be, except they cranked up the 'bimbo' setting, which is what I find to be kinda off-putting.

I would indeed be tempted to get it, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so that puts somewhat of a spanner in the works.

well shes pissed off her lover/partner Sly Cooper went back to his life of crime after the 3rd game.

Treblaine:
Uhh, I thought ferries were just the designated internet punching bag. People don't actually have a problem with furries, they are basically the Milhouse of the Internet.

I don't think people actually care.

And I don't think they care about another Sly game being resurrected long after the original developers left it, brought back by a different studio that has not impressed before.

Sanzaru Games are huge fan of the franchise they even sly cooper HD collection. They made this game for the ps3 and vita.

xPixelatedx:
With the new Sly game out, I find myself being a bit introspective about furrys and their current state. This might be because Dust:an Elysian Tale kind of changed my mind about them for the better, especially after hearing the whole game was actually made by one; and he soloed the project. Color me impressed. I guess Sly has always had furry characters, but I am just now starting to realize how furry they are. I always saw them as gaming mascot characters in the past, like Sonic or Bubsy. But it's kind of hard to see them in that innocent light after seeing something like this:


I see anthropomorphic art met with spite and horror in a lot of places I brows on the net, even if the picture posted is entirely innocent and work safe. There are people who absolutely loathe this stuff, if just for fact that it reminds them of the more seedy pictures they saw. Now we have a game (from a franchise that seems to be almost almost universally loved) a tad over-sexualizing one of it's anthropomorphic characters, yet I still have no doubt that this game will do well. Hell, this game may even push some PS3s.

I am going to come right out and say it: I'm confused. Are we becoming more liberal with the roles anthropomorphic characters are allowed to take? Or does Sly get a free pass because of a double standard I'm not seeing?

... What the hell did they do to Carmelita fox? I do not remember seeing her like that at all in Sly 2 or 3. And here I was hoping they would stay true to the art style of the series.

And yeah the sexualized her way more then she was before.
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The main difference is that they gave her a skirt. And she has a bit to much of a hourglass figure. Even her sleeves were shortened to show more ski- Er... Fur...

I don't like change...

I'm not sure what it is, but I don't think Sanzaru is very good at making good female characters with the way they tried to oversexualize Carmelita and having her flirt with multiple coopers, and don't get me started on how they...

Am I the only one who doesn't think that made any sense!?

Ah, the amount of hypocrisy in this thread is delightful. How for many years and to this day we have tried to dismiss the term "gamer" as a dirty word. Gamers would go out of their way to convince others that theirs is a way of art and life, and would instead chastise another.

Are we not the violent degenerates that the media would label us as? Do not FPS automatically instill the need to grab an AK and shoot a classroom full of children? is our hobby one that strips away all our ambition and makes us slaves to our respective box? No? So why is it some would automatically claim that all furries are sexual deviants? Freaks? Mentailly unstable?

Sexuality is expressive in all forms of media and sub genre. From food, to cars, to power tools. For ever thing that exists, there is a fetis for it. Furries have had more documentation because a small number have brought negative attention to it. Many might remember the episode of CSI, that delt with furries by labeling them all as sexually obsessed perverts who have massive orgies. Or that all furries own fursuits.

So yes, there is furry porn on the net. Ranging from Sonic the Hedgehog, to Star Fox, to Sly Cooper. From Mickey Mouse, bugs Bunny, and any obscure antho character ever concived. I garentee you though that for ever scrap of Furry porn, there are just as many depicting Mario. Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, God of War, Gears of War, Persona, and literally every game under the sun. You probably wouldn't believe the sheer volume of porn that exists for Final Fantasy 7 alone. Oh dear, I've gone and admit I've viewed porn, where as no one else on the planet, and definatly not this board, had ever viewed porn at some point in their life.

It isn't so much that it is constantly "shoved down" anyones throat, just the fact the concept enters your mind, making you uncomfortable, and thus the attention is brought up indirectly, and blame is shifted. You don't have to like furries, respect them, or even tolerate them. When one shouts down on how disgraceful they are, take a moment to reflect, and see the ground you stand upon. Is it that much different? There is beauty in all art, and perversion abound. I have seen beautiful works of Anthro artwork, and horrific games that make one want to vomit. We have seen that the two works can collide and make awesome games. Why single out one part one half just because a part of the whole makes you uncomfortable?

Because of a small percentage, the whole of the furry community has been condemed to ridicule and hate. Because they have an excuse to do so. You think gamers are safe, protected. If they find any shred of evidence that gaming is a lead to abmormality, and we'd be eternally damned as well.

So I ask ask, what difference does it make? Yes, furries in media, along with videogames, can oversexualize it's characters. Then what isn't already? In every form of media, from commercials to children's TV, you'll see signs of ideal oversexualized designs.Even if such a thing isn't to your taste, it cannot bring you harm directly, even when you think you've been violated mentally. Despite popular belief, furries arn't going to simply rape you in your sleep. Simply accept that things are as they are, good or ill, and go on with your day. Isn't that what we as gamers want?

dragongit:
Ah, the amount of hypocrisy in this thread is delightful. How for many years and to this day we have tried to dismiss the term "gamer" as a dirty word. Gamers would go out of their way to convince others that theirs is a way of art and life, and would instead chastise another.

Are we not the violent degenerates that the media would label us as? Do not FPS automatically instill the need to grab an AK and shoot a classroom full of children? is our hobby one that strips away all our ambition and makes us slaves to our respective box? No? So why is it some would automatically claim that all furries are sexual deviants? Freaks? Mentailly unstable?

Sexuality is expressive in all forms of media and sub genre. From food, to cars, to power tools. For ever thing that exists, there is a fetis for it. Furries have had more documentation because a small number have brought negative attention to it. Many might remember the episode of CSI, that delt with furries by labeling them all as sexually obsessed perverts who have massive orgies. Or that all furries own fursuits.

So yes, there is furry porn on the net. Ranging from Sonic the Hedgehog, to Star Fox, to Sly Cooper. From Mickey Mouse, bugs Bunny, and any obscure antho character ever concived. I garentee you though that for ever scrap of Furry porn, there are just as many depicting Mario. Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, God of War, Gears of War, Persona, and literally every game under the sun. You probably wouldn't believe the sheer volume of porn that exists for Final Fantasy 7 alone. Oh dear, I've gone and admit I've viewed porn, where as no one else on the planet, and definatly not this board, had ever viewed porn at some point in their life.

It isn't so much that it is constantly "shoved down" anyones throat, just the fact the concept enters your mind, making you uncomfortable, and thus the attention is brought up indirectly, and blame is shifted. You don't have to like furries, respect them, or even tolerate them. When one shouts down on how disgraceful they are, take a moment to reflect, and see the ground you stand upon. Is it that much different? There is beauty in all art, and perversion abound. I have seen beautiful works of Anthro artwork, and horrific games that make one want to vomit. We have seen that the two works can collide and make awesome games. Why single out one part one half just because a part of the whole makes you uncomfortable?

Because of a small percentage, the whole of the furry community has been condemed to ridicule and hate. Because they have an excuse to do so. You think gamers are safe, protected. If they find any shred of evidence that gaming is a lead to abmormality, and we'd be eternally damned as well.

So I ask ask, what difference does it make? Yes, furries in media, along with videogames, can oversexualize it's characters. Then what isn't already? In every form of media, from commercials to children's TV, you'll see signs of ideal oversexualized designs.Even if such a thing isn't to your taste, it cannot bring you harm directly, even when you think you've been violated mentally. Despite popular belief, furries arn't going to simply rape you in your sleep. Simply accept that things are as they are, good or ill, and go on with your day. Isn't that what we as gamers want?

amen to that brother/sister

dragongit:
Ah, the amount of hypocrisy in this thread is delightful. How for many years and to this day we have tried to dismiss the term "gamer" as a dirty word. Gamers would go out of their way to convince others that theirs is a way of art and life, and would instead chastise another.

Are we not the violent degenerates that the media would label us as? Do not FPS automatically instill the need to grab an AK and shoot a classroom full of children? is our hobby one that strips away all our ambition and makes us slaves to our respective box? No? So why is it some would automatically claim that all furries are sexual deviants? Freaks? Mentailly unstable?

Sexuality is expressive in all forms of media and sub genre. From food, to cars, to power tools. For ever thing that exists, there is a fetis for it. Furries have had more documentation because a small number have brought negative attention to it. Many might remember the episode of CSI, that delt with furries by labeling them all as sexually obsessed perverts who have massive orgies. Or that all furries own fursuits.

So yes, there is furry porn on the net. Ranging from Sonic the Hedgehog, to Star Fox, to Sly Cooper. From Mickey Mouse, bugs Bunny, and any obscure antho character ever concived. I garentee you though that for ever scrap of Furry porn, there are just as many depicting Mario. Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, God of War, Gears of War, Persona, and literally every game under the sun. You probably wouldn't believe the sheer volume of porn that exists for Final Fantasy 7 alone. Oh dear, I've gone and admit I've viewed porn, where as no one else on the planet, and definatly not this board, had ever viewed porn at some point in their life.

It isn't so much that it is constantly "shoved down" anyones throat, just the fact the concept enters your mind, making you uncomfortable, and thus the attention is brought up indirectly, and blame is shifted. You don't have to like furries, respect them, or even tolerate them. When one shouts down on how disgraceful they are, take a moment to reflect, and see the ground you stand upon. Is it that much different? There is beauty in all art, and perversion abound. I have seen beautiful works of Anthro artwork, and horrific games that make one want to vomit. We have seen that the two works can collide and make awesome games. Why single out one part one half just because a part of the whole makes you uncomfortable?

Because of a small percentage, the whole of the furry community has been condemed to ridicule and hate. Because they have an excuse to do so. You think gamers are safe, protected. If they find any shred of evidence that gaming is a lead to abmormality, and we'd be eternally damned as well.

So I ask ask, what difference does it make? Yes, furries in media, along with videogames, can oversexualize it's characters. Then what isn't already? In every form of media, from commercials to children's TV, you'll see signs of ideal oversexualized designs.Even if such a thing isn't to your taste, it cannot bring you harm directly, even when you think you've been violated mentally. Despite popular belief, furries arn't going to simply rape you in your sleep. Simply accept that things are as they are, good or ill, and go on with your day. Isn't that what we as gamers want?

Please don't equate someone's sexual fetish to bad games. One is shit, and one is merely a taste you don't share. No one deserves condemnation for that.

Blarg, I just don't like the overly detailed/anorexic look to her in this game. It gives that kind of uncanny valley appearance. In the past games she looked nice and interesting, that along with her background, voice, and such she made for a good character, her being furry is kind of secondary at that point.

I have never understood the furry hate. Historically many characters throughout american pop culture have been furries, probably starting as far back as Mickey mouse and no one batted an eye. We've had entire generations grow up with furry characters as icons in one way or another. In my generation Teenage mutant ninja turtles was a huge part of our childhood so I suspect the absence of furries in pop culture may be a contributing factor toward the hate but thats only a theory. I have no idea if it holds any weight

That aside when I listen to people who are "anti-furry" its not because of furry characters themselves. Its that they dont like the culture surrounding it. I can at least understand that point of view.

Solo-Wing:

... What the hell did they do to Carmelita fox? I do not remember seeing her like that at all in Sly 2 or 3. And here I was hoping they would stay true to the art style of the series.

And yeah the sexualized her way more then she was before.
image

The main difference is that they gave her a skirt. And she has a bit to much of a hourglass figure. Even her sleeves were shortened to show more ski- Er... Fur...

I don't like change...

Exactly my point, they kind of messed up her character design. It is kind of like the herione from the "Prince of Persia" series. She went from being a competent, interesting character to a stereotypical badass action girl whose muscles and organs seem to have migrated to their boobs and ass, while their clothes go through a thrashing machine.

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