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Hehehehehehe. I love it when this strip takes the mickey out of Evangelion. It's always great to watch. Keep it up, guys!

Really when your body is destroyed and you become soul attached thinly to a metal suit of Armor whose very existence is called into question, there really is no reason to not learn kung fu.

Casual Shinji:

Daystar Clarion:
Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

29-year old women are milfs now?

Maybe from the perspective of a 14 year-old.

Johnny Novgorod:

Casual Shinji:

Daystar Clarion:
Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

29-year old women are milfs now?

Maybe from the perspective of a 14 year-old.

Yeah, I guess I can see that - 19-year olds were already milfs to me when I was 14.

And now the word 'milf' will quickly loose what little meaning it had each time I say it.

We all handle grief differently from one another. Some in rather bizarre ways, but at least they're handling it in a constructive manner. ^^;

I dunno if Alphonse is a shining example of what to do. I mean, he's got nobody that he really sees eye-to-eye with, so all his problems ring hollow. And I don't care how metal he acts, I think he's really a tin soldier at heart.

Still, better life lessons that Shinji got. All Shinji' mom taught was, "You are what you eat."

Izanagi009:

Daystar Clarion:
Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Oh boy, here we go again. Let's see, he also has had various tragedies that we are lucky to never happen as stated in the comic: abandonment, low self-confidence, and extreme pain and agony to the point of wanting to die.

that giant robot, it will literally torture you as you fight because of the pain transmission, everytime an angel blast or rips a chunk of flesh off, you feel that agonizing pain and since the actual damage is not occurring on your body, it tend to cause a mental drain

as for the women, Misato has her own problems and as of Eva 3.0 kind of hates Shinji for third impact. Asuka is extremely closed off and pushes Shinji away so hard that he feels even greater abandonment. Rei is pretty much a empty shell that can be replaced over and over and that continual cycle of having someone you are close to die and come back with no memory of your experience together would have an effect.

I'm honestly tired of people who say that Shinji should stop whining. The pain he goes through and the timeframe he experienced them would crack many people in real life.

It's not real life. It's a pretentious anime show that likes to wax philosophical about subjects it barely understands using the most disgusting and annoying characters as possible.

Here the difference is that those events never actually happened and that these not actually real events have turned this boy into the biggest pussy and self centered egotist on earth rather than having him man up and fix shit in his life.

Guess what most people go through allot of shit, actually real shit and they get over it. They don't wallow in self pity. They don't jerk off on comatose women. They fix the problems rather than spending time feeling sorry for themselves for having those problems.

So please forgive me when I once again say. SACK UP SHINJI! Your problems are small potatoes compared to impending doom.

Alphonse's response is of course the opposite spectrum of the reaction in this comic but here at least there is something to explore. We could look into how people deal with problems by ignoring or distracting themselves from it.

What was the answer to Shinji's whining? He had to grow a pair of balls. No really, that is what the entire episode dealing with his insecurities was about. Sack the fuck up and stop feeling sorry for yourself. The solution within the fucking cannon is what everyone has been telling this shit stain to do for the entire series run, including all the re-releases.

So your point is what? Stop telling Shinji to sack up because the anime already has an entire episode of nothing but other characters telling him to do that?

Casual Shinji:

Johnny Novgorod:

Casual Shinji:
29-year old women are milfs now?

Maybe from the perspective of a 14 year-old.

Yeah, I guess I can see that - 19-year olds were already milfs to me when I was 14.

And now the word 'milf' will quickly loose what little meaning it had each time I say it.

This is more of an "anime-ism", if the Anime's primary characters are under 20 then most women over 20 are Big Titted Milfs... perhaps it's a creepy way of the pervier anime out there sexily compensating for age? I dunno... a lot of Anime have an unhealthy obsession with the whole Youth = Sexy thing...

Anyway... yeah... Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood are definitely two of my favorite anime series's, partially because most of the characters are so unconventional as far as anime tropes go (Elric Bro's are Intelligent as opposed to Stupid, Riza Hawkeye, Major Armstrong and Izumi Curtis are the best characters ever etc.).

In regards to the whole "Westernized" thing... they aren't wrong... FMA is intensely "Western" in its style, Armestris is basically an Alternate Germany with an intense amount of research put into the operation of its military dictatorship but I personally have endless respect for Hiromu Arakawa as a creator for the amount of work she put into building a convincing world for FMA.

As soon as I saw the title I just said to myself "oh noooooo"

PedroSteckecilo:

Casual Shinji:

Johnny Novgorod:

Maybe from the perspective of a 14 year-old.

Yeah, I guess I can see that - 19-year olds were already milfs to me when I was 14.

And now the word 'milf' will quickly loose what little meaning it had each time I say it.

This is more of an "anime-ism", if the Anime's primary characters are under 20 then most women over 20 are Big Titted Milfs... perhaps it's a creepy way of the pervier anime out there sexily compensating for age? I dunno... a lot of Anime have an unhealthy obsession with the whole Youth = Sexy thing...

Yeah, I noticed the same.

25 in anime years is 40 in real years.

And Japanese never seem to have a real grasp of size ingeneral. 15-year olds are the size of 10-year olds and 50-year olds are the size of a gorilla.

I friggen love Fullmetal Alchemist.

I've never actually watched NGE, despite it apparently being one of the most popular anime ever. And by the looks of the forums here, feelings about it are incredibly mixed.

Daystar Clarion:

Izanagi009:

Daystar Clarion:
Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Oh boy, here we go again. Let's see, he also has had various tragedies that we are lucky to never happen as stated in the comic: abandonment, low self-confidence, and extreme pain and agony to the point of wanting to die.

that giant robot, it will literally torture you as you fight because of the pain transmission, everytime an angel blast or rips a chunk of flesh off, you feel that agonizing pain and since the actual damage is not occurring on your body, it tend to cause a mental drain

as for the women, Misato has her own problems and as of Eva 3.0 kind of hates Shinji for third impact. Asuka is extremely closed off and pushes Shinji away so hard that he feels even greater abandonment. Rei is pretty much a empty shell that can be replaced over and over and that continual cycle of having someone you are close to die and come back with no memory of your experience together would have an effect.

I'm honestly tired of people who say that Shinji should stop whining. The pain he goes through and the timeframe he experienced them would crack many people in real life.

Called it.

I'm very well aware of the actual implications of the show.

See, we have these things we do for comic effect.

You may of heard of them before, they're called jokes.

"As surely as the Sun rises in the East, and the salmon will attempt to swim upstream, someone on the internet will fail to appreciate affectionate satire."

That's totally a proverb, right?

TiberiusEsuriens:
I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Also, Elric brothers are kick-ass.

By that logic, Cowboy Bebop was horrible. (Spoiler alert: It was awesome)

I watched all 26(?) episodes of NGE, and didn't even know Shinji's mom is dead.
Felt like I stumbled into the 7th season of LOST.

Daystar Clarion:
Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Well to be fair every character in that show is horrible and being with any of them for an extended amount of time would make you want to start cutting also. The robots are cool though.

NinjaDeathSlap:

Daystar Clarion:

Izanagi009:

Oh boy, here we go again. Let's see, he also has had various tragedies that we are lucky to never happen as stated in the comic: abandonment, low self-confidence, and extreme pain and agony to the point of wanting to die.

that giant robot, it will literally torture you as you fight because of the pain transmission, everytime an angel blast or rips a chunk of flesh off, you feel that agonizing pain and since the actual damage is not occurring on your body, it tend to cause a mental drain

as for the women, Misato has her own problems and as of Eva 3.0 kind of hates Shinji for third impact. Asuka is extremely closed off and pushes Shinji away so hard that he feels even greater abandonment. Rei is pretty much a empty shell that can be replaced over and over and that continual cycle of having someone you are close to die and come back with no memory of your experience together would have an effect.

I'm honestly tired of people who say that Shinji should stop whining. The pain he goes through and the timeframe he experienced them would crack many people in real life.

Called it.

I'm very well aware of the actual implications of the show.

See, we have these things we do for comic effect.

You may of heard of them before, they're called jokes.

"As surely as the Sun rises in the East, and the salmon will attempt to swim upstream, someone on the internet will fail to appreciate affectionate satire."

That's totally a proverb, right?

It should be, because it's totally sweet.

This is why I'm incredibly picky about what anime I watch; it had damn well better offer something I haven't seen before. Lupin the Third does just that, and it does a damn good job at it. Anything with giant robots or mech suits (Gundam, Zoids, Neon Genesis Evangelion, The Big O) is automatically disqualified from me bothering to watch it. I've never liked any of it.

P.S. Thanks

P.P.S. I totally made an exception for FLCL because I had no clue it was going to have giant robots until I'd already decided I liked it, and frankly it used them more as a joke than as the focal point of the series.

Still beating this old horse? Guess as long as the pageviews hold out, more power to you guys.

For the not-so-wise: The writer |fully| understands that given the situation he's thrown into: Shinji does one heck of a job adjusting. He's milking the rage of EVA fans that argue until they're blue in the face and those dense enough to think Shinji is a "wuss" "pussy" "coward" "whiner".

For those who don't understand this:

Shinji tries being "Emotionless pilot #003", the pain from synching and the situation with collateral damage messes this up.

Shinji tries being "Cocky Pilot MO-FO!", he screws up and is nearly suffocated to death in the SoD for it.

Shinji tries being "Well Adjusted Pilot, up for anything", Misato rages at him for running from the reality of the situation.

The strip does bring to mind an interesting thought: If Al is the construct of Ed's memories then wouldn't Ed imagine an Al unaffected by the horror of his situation? Question then is: Why's Ed so well adjusted? Not why Al is.

TiberiusEsuriens:
I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Replace 'too westernized' with 'tonally schizophrenic', and I'd say they're onto something.

mrhateful:
I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

That... might be a fairly contentious claim. NGE is the only form of entertainment I've hated enough to watch the entire series (at the time; new stuff has come out since then) just so I could literally scream at the friend who told me it was the best show ever. At the time, the only part of the show I liked at all was the penguin. (Yes, there was an intelligent penguin in the show. I don't remember if the intelligence was ever explained.) I'm ambivalent towards Mech's in anime, the religious allegory was okay

So while I won't say that the show was BAD or terrible, I'll say that I hated it. I will also say that I found RahXephon to be a much more enjoyable form of NGE. (somewhat similar story situation; aliens attacking Earth, "Chosen One" sort of male teenager is the only one to pilot a Mecha that can fight the Aliens, he doesn't want to fight, and there's a few love triangles.) RahXephon isn't BETTER than NGE, just more enjoyable IMO.

hudsonzero:
did a eva DVD boxset fall on your dog or something because almost every comic has been making fun of it for the past few months.
also to many words in the second panel.

The second panel has ten words in it.

RJ 17:
I'd say that Al definitely copes better than Shinji. But then again, no one ever said Shinji was good at coping. Whining and refusing to hit on any of said hot chicks despite the fact that a number of them practically throw themselves at him: Shinji's got that one covered. But coping with emotional distress? Not quite his thing.

I've always said that if you need therapy, you won't after watching the last two episodes of Evengeleon. But if you don't need therapy, you most certainly will after watching the last two episodes of Evangeleon.

I'm sorry, it just doesn't make sense. Granted it's been damn near a decade since I've watched the series, but I remember leaving with the impression "WTF just happened? Soooooo was the entire point of the Angel Invasion just to get Shinji to stop being such a sniveling little bitch? Also apparently to get him to choke out that loudmouth redhead?" Some gay guy gets his head popped off and it brings about the end of the world as Shinji is sent to a purgatory that he can't escape from until he realizes "I am me and the me that matters is the me that I see me as. Other people might see a different me than the me that I see myself as, but those "me"s don't matter since they're not the true me. The true me is the me that I see myself as by reflecting the "me"s that other people create about me, but what's important is the me that I want to be because I'm me!" "CONGRATULATIONS!"

Neon Genesis was just created to be therapy for Hedaki Anno. He was struggling with depression when he wrote that piece of shit series.

It's overrated to fuck.

I would highly recommend the manga to those who couldn't keep up with the story of the anime. It is admittedly not easy as the Japanese have their own wonky style of story telling with a lot of their anime. A lot of which did not survive localization.

Casual Shinji:
And Japanese never seem to have a real grasp of size ingeneral. 15-year olds are the size of 10-year olds and 50-year olds are the size of a gorilla.

Fair point, though I've always taken that to be just a visual representation of power imbalances. Younger folk have less power, so they're smaller in size (both height and physical proportions - skinnier, less muscled, etc.) than older folk, who are taller, more muscular or at least heavier. For women this also tends to towards older women having bigger breasts, sort of a two-for-one deal; more sexualized AND larger in most other ways. Sort of how younger characters almost always have huge and expressive eyes, while older characters generally tend to have smaller or squintier eyes. Another visual representation, this time of how younger folk tend to see more than older folk as older folk have become more set in their ways.

I just think people like to see others overcoming and triumphing over hardship, not complaining about it and succumbing to it for 26 episodes and four movies. That's what people do in real life, and it's annoying.

Imp Emissary:
Alphonse still crys form time to time, and in fact went into a bit of a depression when he questioned if he was ever really alive before, or just something Edward created.

It's been a while since I've seen the series, and though I vaguely recall that, when did that happen? And in which series?

TwiZtah:

RJ 17:
I'd say that Al definitely copes better than Shinji. But then again, no one ever said Shinji was good at coping. Whining and refusing to hit on any of said hot chicks despite the fact that a number of them practically throw themselves at him: Shinji's got that one covered. But coping with emotional distress? Not quite his thing.

I've always said that if you need therapy, you won't after watching the last two episodes of Evengeleon. But if you don't need therapy, you most certainly will after watching the last two episodes of Evangeleon.

I'm sorry, it just doesn't make sense. Granted it's been damn near a decade since I've watched the series, but I remember leaving with the impression "WTF just happened? Soooooo was the entire point of the Angel Invasion just to get Shinji to stop being such a sniveling little bitch? Also apparently to get him to choke out that loudmouth redhead?" Some gay guy gets his head popped off and it brings about the end of the world as Shinji is sent to a purgatory that he can't escape from until he realizes "I am me and the me that matters is the me that I see me as. Other people might see a different me than the me that I see myself as, but those "me"s don't matter since they're not the true me. The true me is the me that I see myself as by reflecting the "me"s that other people create about me, but what's important is the me that I want to be because I'm me!" "CONGRATULATIONS!"

Neon Genesis was just created to be therapy for Hedaki Anno. He was struggling with depression when he wrote that piece of shit series.

It's overrated to fuck.

Here, here!

However... I can only wonder how confusing that Monologue would have been if the creator was suffering from Borderline Personality instead of Depression.

Instead of going "I only really need to worry about being myself", it would be an infinite loop of "Who am I? I Don't Know!"

I was all set to be proud of liking Evangelion again after the first and second remake movies, they're genuinely great. But that third movie... holy shit it was like the worst pile of decisions Gainax could have possibly made in a single movie. I don't even know what movies 4 and 5 will be now, but I certainly am not expecting much.

Tono Makt:

Casual Shinji:
And Japanese never seem to have a real grasp of size ingeneral. 15-year olds are the size of 10-year olds and 50-year olds are the size of a gorilla.

Fair point, though I've always taken that to be just a visual representation of power imbalances. Younger folk have less power, so they're smaller in size (both height and physical proportions - skinnier, less muscled, etc.) than older folk, who are taller, more muscular or at least heavier. For women this also tends to towards older women having bigger breasts, sort of a two-for-one deal; more sexualized AND larger in most other ways. Sort of how younger characters almost always have huge and expressive eyes, while older characters generally tend to have smaller or squintier eyes. Another visual representation, this time of how younger folk tend to see more than older folk as older folk have become more set in their ways.

Yeah, I know, but it can sometimes look a bit weird. Like in Laputa: Castle in the Sky. Or in Resident Evil 2, where Sherry is supposed to be 12, but her head barely reaches above Claire's hip.

I've literally been rewatching Fullmetal alchemist and Evangelion this past week. This could have not come at a better time.

Different strokes for different folks.

Oh.... *that's* why I liked Full Metal Alchemist but never got into Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Thanks for putting it all into perspective!

Grey Carter:
[snip]

Your timeline is off.

The Elric brothers left their house after their mother died, where they met Izumi Curtis in Resembool. After Curtis displayed her alchemic prowess, they followed her and begged to become her students. She gave them the test on Yock Island to see if they could understand the riddle "All is One, One is All". Then, after living on the island for a month and discovering the truth behind the riddle, she accepted them as students and taught them. Finally, after being learning Alchemy and martial arts from Curtis, they returned home and tried to revive their mother with the disastrous results.

So, while Al does go off to do shit, learning martial arts wouldn't be one of them. He already knows it.

klaynexas3:

Imp Emissary:
Alphonse still crys form time to time, and in fact went into a bit of a depression when he questioned if he was ever really alive before, or just something Edward created.

It's been a while since I've seen the series, and though I vaguely recall that, when did that happen? And in which series?

It's in them both. It's a bit after Al fights Barry the Chopper. Barry plants doubts in Al's head, when they're fighting, that he isn't real, and later Al gets a good deal upset when Ed doesn't ask him his secret question right away.
The question; "Al. Do you hate me?"

Imp Emissary:

klaynexas3:

Imp Emissary:
Alphonse still crys form time to time, and in fact went into a bit of a depression when he questioned if he was ever really alive before, or just something Edward created.

It's been a while since I've seen the series, and though I vaguely recall that, when did that happen? And in which series?

It's in them both. It's a bit after Al fights Barry the Chopper. Barry plants doubts in Al's head, when they're fighting, that he isn't real, and later Al gets a good deal upset when Ed doesn't ask him his secret question right away.
The question; "Al. Do you hate me?"

Okay, now I remember, thank you for clearing that up. I really need to watch those again. Well, at least brotherhood, I liked that one better at any rate.

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